Groups unite their forces and converge on the Hilltop; Aaron and Enid search for allies; Simon takes matters into his own hands.Groups unite their forces and converge on the Hilltop; Aaron and Enid search for allies; Simon takes matters into his own hands.Groups unite their forces and converge on the Hilltop; Aaron and Enid search for allies; Simon takes matters into his own hands.
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Featured reviews
For one, Simon and Jadis were clear standouts this week. I've never fully been on board with Simon as a character, as he's often felt like a carbon copy of Negan's personality. However, tonight exemplified just how different he is by shaping him as a man on a revenge tour and so clearly going to be killed brutally by Negan, and I found Steven ogg's performance to be incredibly compelling. It was in those scenes and Jadis' few quiet but bloody sequences that made the episode for me.
Jadis, much like Simon, has been a mixed bag for me. I'll never understand why the garbage folk speak so strangely, it's quite infuriating. But it seemed like Pollyana McIntosh finally got a chance to show some depth as the last survivor of The Scavengers. Just watching McIntosh painfully see her people go through the trash grinder made me feel genuine emotion for her. I can't believe I'm saying this but actually intrigued for where they're going to take her character going forward.
It was also very nice to see Negan and Rick have a 1v1 discussion that didn't end with a baseball bat or guns going off. Yes, it was frustrating to see Rick take a 180 from what Carl asked him to do last week (will Rick ever learn?), but on the other hand, how great was it to see Negan be a somewhat normal person through it all? Is this the show telling us we should expect Negan to be redeemed at some point? His supposed genuine reaction to hearing about Carl's death may be a sign of what's to come in that regard. Either way, back to back solid episodes of The Walking Dead was a promising way to begin season 8b.
7.8/10
Actually, "The Lost and the Plunderers" turned out to be more than just a filler episode and one of the few episodes up to this point of Season 8 to actually feel like it's going anywhere in terms of characterisation and storytelling. Up to this point of the season, "The Lost and the Plunderers" is by far the best episode, and even after Season 8 ended it still remained one of its best and one of the few to be above average (well above average in this case). Actually thought it was pretty darn good and the best episode since "Bury Me Here".
By all means, "The Lost and the Plunderers" isn't perfect. It does drag at times in the Oceanside parts which felt like filler that could have been trimmed a little.
Still find some of the editing rather self-indulgent and show-offy.
However, a lot is good here in "The Lost and the Plunderers". The junkyard plot surprised me hugely, was expecting that subplot to be tiresome and a waste but actually it was here where things most advanced. Also found it surprisingly entertaining and with tension. Not to mention that the development to Simon, more frightening in this episode alone than Negan has ever been, and Jadis (the latter of whom finally being interesting and shown in a different light) was highly appreciated. The ending unsettles, and Negan to me actually did come over as menacing.
Moreover, a lot goes on here, but it didn't feel too much or too sprawling and there isn't the too many characters problem that most of the previous Season 8 episodes had. The dialogue is this time thought provoking and tighter, nowhere near as many long-winded speeches or rambling self-indulgence. The acting is very good here, with top honours going to chillingly intense Steven Ogg. While having reservations with the editing, there is some atmosphere in the production values and the music has haunting parts.
Overall, rather impressed. 8/10.
Did you know
- TriviaCarl and Judith's blue handprints almost didn't make a second appearance. The paint department had to recreate Judith's handprint because it was smeared after the original take.
- GoofsWhen Rick gets into the van in the opening scene, the little triangle window by the side mirror is broken off. In the next shot from inside the van, it's fixed.
- Quotes
Rick Grimes: [Rick and Negan exchange words over walkie-talkies] Get me Negan.
Negan: Who the hell is asking?
Rick Grimes: It's Rick Grimes.
Negan: Ricky, look at you calling me up. You want to tell me where you are, so we can do this face to face.
Rick Grimes: Carl's dead. He wrote letters. He wrote one to you. He asked you to stop. He asked me to stop. He asked us for peace. But it's too late for that. Even if we wanted to deal now, it doesn't matter. I'm going to kill you.
Negan: How did it happen?
Rick Grimes: What?
Negan: How did he die? Was it us? Was it the grenades... the fire?
Rick Grimes: It wasn't you! Carl went out to help someone and he got bit.
Negan: Goddamn it. Shit, I am... I am sorry. You know I wanted him to be part of things. I had plans. That kid... that kid was the future.
Rick Grimes: The only future is one where you're dead.
Negan: The hell are you doing Rick? Why are you fighting? Why are you making this so hard? Carl is dead because of you. Because you couldn't leave shit well enough alone. I mean maybe he would have died some other way. Any one of us can get our ticket punched at any second. But in this case... in this case, he is dead because of you. Because you weren't there to stop him from doing something stupid. You set this coarse Rick. Who's next?
Rick Grimes: You are!
Negan: No, that someone is. You see... I stop people from dying. I am the answer. Now, it may have taken a hard lesson for you to hear it, but you should hear it now. It's time. Do not let anymore of your shit decisions cost you to lose anyone else you love. That garbage... that sticks with you forever. Just like Carl will. Hell, I'm feeling it now and I'm going to be feeling it for a while. You could have just let me save all of you. I mean that's why I killed your friends in the first place. So that you can sit there and say that you're going to kill me, but you won't. You failed. You failed as a leader and most of all Rick, you failed as a father. Just... give up. Give up because you have already lost.
- ConnectionsFeatured in Talking Dead: Honor (2018)
Details
- Runtime
- 45m
- Color
- Sound mix
- Aspect ratio
- 16:9 HD