smokecombs
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No it's not a 10 rated movie however I feel it was rated by many without actually being viewed. IMO this is one of the more unique monster movies, or a variation of a type of Bigfoot movie not even remotely close to anything we've ever seen before. It's hard to really name a sasquatch type of movie that has been anything above halfway decent. This movie was not just decent to me, bur borderline, GOOD. The "lead" actor is pretty horrible, the male lead, the female only slightly better. It's the abilities and the uniqueness of the monster antagonist that make this movie. My true rating would be a 6, maybe a 7 out of 10 as far as fun viewing. Acting is maybe a 4. I just don't think the 4 it's rated right now is a fair rating with too many 1 and 2 stars. Of this specific type of movie, this is the best one I have ever seen that has a Bigfoot type of creature. It's by no means a typical Bigfoot story you have heard some hunter relate before.
As one of the biggest Conan fanatics on the planet it's very hard for me to be subjective...so I won't. But I, as a Conan "nerd" can, in my opinion give a fairly accurate opinion on how Conan SHOULD be.
From the very beginning of the movie I already knew this was going to blow that God awful "Pathfinder" movie out of the water. I know the creators of this new Conan were also responsible for that horrendous movie so that already had me worried. Luckily my fears were alleiviated within 2 minutes of the movie. My wife was in tears within the first 3 or 4 minutes which surely means that there was a pretty powerful something to this movie, to start out and without giving away any spoilers, so.
Then, to me, it just got better. Maybe it was a little over the top with the young Conan stuff (obviously), but remember, this IS Conan! As for my hopes of the movie possibly being an actual Robert E. Howard story, I don't think it was that. I don't recall this particular story anyways and I've read at least 4 dozen of them plus all the comics. So, my one criticism for the original with Arnold was also in this movie, but still, I consider both movies great in their genre.
Let me get to why I actually may like the movie more than a lot here. A lot of the reviewers, IMO, have not yet watched this movie and reviewed anyway, and also a lot of reviewers really have that first Conan movie with Arnold ingrained in their mind as the measuring stick. I am going more by the books which were written several decades before the original Conan even came out (which was not written by the original and by far the best Conan writer/creator, Robert E. Howard) and also the comics.
Conan was/is supposed to be a big man, tall and imposing but as agile as a cat and feline fast. Arnold was fairly tall and imposing, but he lacked the most important thing, speed and athleticism. He brought a fairly powerful stage presence and decent acting but Arnold was all power, not a whole lot of speed and agility going on in the fight scenes. So in this way, Momoa was much better for the part, or modern special effects and fighting choreography made a much better representation of how Conan is supposed to look in battle. Momoa even has the right hair color! Lol, although a little curly (Conan is supposed to have straight black hair, but oh well...) I will just break it down like this, sort of a vs. thing of different aspects of the movies, the original vs. this new one. One thing the original had was a GREAT musical score that this new one can't hold a candle to at all. But anyway, here goes.
Acting (lead actor): Arnold (by a slim margin, Momoa acts as well, just not the stage presence of Arnie)
Fighting Scenes: Momoa (A much better representation of Conan's SKILL and speed were on display)
Gore Factor: Conan 2011 (THis movie by far exceeds the blood and dismemberment of the original)
Story: Tie(Neither were original Robert E. HOward stories but I believe there were good elements to both stories)
Character Development: Original (I think we missed out on a good bit of character development for Conan in this new one, especially from teenage years to adult)
Music: Original (Landslide win for the original which just had some music that wanted you to go sword fight your neighbor just for the heck of it)
Setting/Scenery: Conan 2011 (close here, the original has some scenes where I just love the setting but there is a lot of desert in it too. The new one has what I think is a fairly good representation of Cimmeria. I really liked all the Picts represented in this new one as well)
Overall: Conan 2011 (I can't help it, I'm a pretty big fan of this movie after just watching it this weekend. From the over the top total B.A., 12 year old Conan to the rude swaggering adult version, this was what Conan was supposed to be like and a much better movie than I had anticipated.)
From the very beginning of the movie I already knew this was going to blow that God awful "Pathfinder" movie out of the water. I know the creators of this new Conan were also responsible for that horrendous movie so that already had me worried. Luckily my fears were alleiviated within 2 minutes of the movie. My wife was in tears within the first 3 or 4 minutes which surely means that there was a pretty powerful something to this movie, to start out and without giving away any spoilers, so.
Then, to me, it just got better. Maybe it was a little over the top with the young Conan stuff (obviously), but remember, this IS Conan! As for my hopes of the movie possibly being an actual Robert E. Howard story, I don't think it was that. I don't recall this particular story anyways and I've read at least 4 dozen of them plus all the comics. So, my one criticism for the original with Arnold was also in this movie, but still, I consider both movies great in their genre.
Let me get to why I actually may like the movie more than a lot here. A lot of the reviewers, IMO, have not yet watched this movie and reviewed anyway, and also a lot of reviewers really have that first Conan movie with Arnold ingrained in their mind as the measuring stick. I am going more by the books which were written several decades before the original Conan even came out (which was not written by the original and by far the best Conan writer/creator, Robert E. Howard) and also the comics.
Conan was/is supposed to be a big man, tall and imposing but as agile as a cat and feline fast. Arnold was fairly tall and imposing, but he lacked the most important thing, speed and athleticism. He brought a fairly powerful stage presence and decent acting but Arnold was all power, not a whole lot of speed and agility going on in the fight scenes. So in this way, Momoa was much better for the part, or modern special effects and fighting choreography made a much better representation of how Conan is supposed to look in battle. Momoa even has the right hair color! Lol, although a little curly (Conan is supposed to have straight black hair, but oh well...) I will just break it down like this, sort of a vs. thing of different aspects of the movies, the original vs. this new one. One thing the original had was a GREAT musical score that this new one can't hold a candle to at all. But anyway, here goes.
Acting (lead actor): Arnold (by a slim margin, Momoa acts as well, just not the stage presence of Arnie)
Fighting Scenes: Momoa (A much better representation of Conan's SKILL and speed were on display)
Gore Factor: Conan 2011 (THis movie by far exceeds the blood and dismemberment of the original)
Story: Tie(Neither were original Robert E. HOward stories but I believe there were good elements to both stories)
Character Development: Original (I think we missed out on a good bit of character development for Conan in this new one, especially from teenage years to adult)
Music: Original (Landslide win for the original which just had some music that wanted you to go sword fight your neighbor just for the heck of it)
Setting/Scenery: Conan 2011 (close here, the original has some scenes where I just love the setting but there is a lot of desert in it too. The new one has what I think is a fairly good representation of Cimmeria. I really liked all the Picts represented in this new one as well)
Overall: Conan 2011 (I can't help it, I'm a pretty big fan of this movie after just watching it this weekend. From the over the top total B.A., 12 year old Conan to the rude swaggering adult version, this was what Conan was supposed to be like and a much better movie than I had anticipated.)
