Tuesday, May 26, 2026

"Oh My God! Look At The Time!

I still haven't seen the Oscar winning motion picture "One Battle After Another." Why? Because it is two hours and forty two minutes long, which is about 50 minutes longer than I now want a film to be. This coming from a guy who has watched both "Godfather" films back to back, two times a year for as long as I can remember. Each of those back to back viewings equal six hours and twenty minutes, by the way.

When I first started writing in any serious way, I wanted to be a screenwriter. My roommate at the time, as well as two of my closest friends, already had three or four screenplays under their belts. I had one, my first feature after three one act plays, and it was both hilarious and cringemakingly horrible. The four of us would see five or six movies a week. It wasn't odd to see two in one day. We saw it as research. In 1988, I saw four films in one day, three times! 

Back in the day, if someone asked, "Any interest in seeing (insert film here)?" My immediate answer was "Yes." Didn't matter what it was. Our goal was to see everything, which is how I ended up in an empty theater with just my roommate watching the 1986 Hal Needham movie "Rad." It was one of the only films left that we hadn't seen. Now, if someone asks if I have an interest in seeing a film, my question is always, "How long is it?"

I've recently been editing down classic double albums to more manageable 40 minute playtimes. I'm trimming "The White Album" and "Quadrophenia" as if cutting fat off of chicken cutlets. 

Our friend Cleveland Jeff wrote a rave review of the new Cal Everett record over at his place "...Like Dancing About Architecture," and this paragraph stood out.

"The artist suggests listening to the record as a whole, and I did that the first couple of times, and that works. But that takes an hour. Without the little interludes and maybe four of the songs, it would be a perfect 45 minute record, and that's a big deal. Perfect is a high bar."
 
What exactly are we doing with those extra 15 minutes?
 
If the goal was to create a more perfect album, then I guess one man's fat is another's meat. But I think it's more than that.
 
Back in 2019, I wrote one of my favorite posts, thinking I was onto something, hoping it would open the eyes and ears of many. It received a measly five comments. The idea was simple. 
 
Long songs seem to be a turn off, especially when they are long prog rock songs, like the Genesis masterpiece "Supper's Ready," which clocks in at 23 minutes. But seven 3 minute songs, and for some reason, we've got a deal.
 
But guess what? "Supper's Ready," the legendary sidelong epic from Genesis IS seven 3 minute songs and they are mostly all terrific. There are seven different titles and if you have the vinyl, you can easily see the bands that separate each of the parts. But the jacket says, "Supper's Ready- 23:06," and that's the dealbreaker. The jacket also says "Genesis," so that may be the dealbreaker for some, as well

(There, I made the joke for you.)

The opening, "Lover's Leap," runs a bit under 4 minutes, and it is a lovely piece of British folk/pop, that would not sound out of place on a Cat Stevens or Sandy Denny record." "Willow Farm" isn't so far removed from British psychedelia, or for that matter, something The Beatles might have attempted on "Magical Mystery Tour." And "Apocalypse In 9/8" is quite frankly, some of the best drumming you will ever hear, courtesy of the World's Punching Bag, the amazing Phil Collins.

So, what is it exactly?
 
I realize that time becomes more precious the older we get, and maybe we have better, more appealing things to accomplish than binge-listening to the entire catalogue of one artist. But the aversion to length when it comes to music seems extreme. I like the instrumental title track from "Quadrophenia" just fine, yet I cut it on my edit. There ya go! Six more minutes in my life to do...what? 
 
I am very guilty here. I am not pointing fingers.
 
When it comes to film, you can't just snip out awkward or uncomfortable scenes. There are no "The Very Best Of Mutiny On The Bounty" DVDs for the impatient out there, or at least I hope not.
 
Records don't have plots or stories, unless you listen to concept records exclusively. When I first saw "The Deer Hunter," the wedding scene made ME want to play Russian roulette. It felt like an entire movie I didn't sign up for within a movie I paid to see. I was also 50 years younger. Now, I couldn't imagine that brilliant wedding not being in the film. But trimming down a 60 minute record to 45 minutes, or in my case, feeling so daunted by double albums, and movies over 2 hours, that I skip completely what could be brilliant art, is a habit I need to break. 
 
Why does music need to be said in 2:54, ten times?

What is so wrong with saying something in 7:21, five times?

 

 

15 comments:

steve simels said...

Of course, the good thing about streaming long movies is that you can watch say half of it, go to bed, and finish it after dinner the next night.

That doesn’t really work for long albums, however.😎

Anonymous said...

I hear you. I feel like I'm always rushing cause there's no time to waste. If a line is too long, I bail. a lot of the new music I listened to, I listened to maybe 5or 10 seconds and move on.
But with movies and music, it's very selective. I've watched 90 Minute movie that seemed in terminal I also seen three hour + movies that breezed by.
There are some double albums that I would like to edit but there are those I'd never touch. I would pare cut down the Beatles White Album (Ok, maybe "Revolution 9" but when the remaster came out a few years ago I did listen to the whole track 'cause it sounded so great) but I would definitely cut the Rolling Stones' "Exile On Main Street". I wouldn't cut "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" but I would snip a bit off of "Physical Graffiti". I always let "Hey Jude" and "Bohemian Rhapsody" play out but I do prefer the shorter single version of "Heroes and Villains" to the longer album track. So it comes down to "it depends".

Guy Incognito said...

I'm glad I saw One Battle After Another in the theatre for several reasons. One of them is self-awareness; I trusted PTA to create something that is strongest when viewed as a whole, to let the momentum build uninterrupted. If I watched it on streaming, I knew I would get distracted or pause to get a snack or read a text. Going to the movies forces me to watch fully engaged, and it paid off.

I too enjoy many double albums more when I cut them down, and I think the advent of CDs inadvertently allowed artists to include things that in the past would have been left off, just due to space limitations of vinyl.

Bombshelter Slim said...

Based on the trailer, I wasn't interested in seeing One Battle... glad I did though, watching DiCaprio play Jack Nicholson was worth the time spent (all of it !!)

Rob said...

First, what a great bit of writing. I absorbed every word and then Sandy Denny (flutter flutter)
Listened to Willow Farm and thought that this could have been a great Keith Moon song. I heard snippets of his voice all over it.

Cleveland Jeff said...

Thanks for the shout out. Much appreciated. I got the idea of reducing double albums to a shorter experience from you. Here's my take: https://kleaveburg.blogspot.com/2026/04/the-double-album-edited.html

pmac said...

The only song I still will skip on any album that I frequently play is No. 9 on the While Album. Once was enough. Otherwise, while there are cuts on many lps that we might all agree are filler, its still part of that lp, that artists' conception as to what they wanted you to hear. So, I listen. The length of time only natters as to whether I have to leave or start doing something that might interfere with listening to that lp. Hell, I'm retired - I got nothing but time on my hands.

Cleveland Jeff said...

My white album no-nos are #9 and Piggies. To think an enlightened guy like George could write that one!

Ken D said...

So Sal, are there any double albums (or full to the brim 75+ minute CDs) you'd find hard to edit down? Near perfect as is?

Sal Nunziato said...

I think what I was trying to get at was why I feel the need to edit at all. Why does anyone feel the need? Where's the urgency to cut 12-15 minutes from a piece of work? I never used to feel that way. Now, I do. Partly, at least for me, has more to do with wanting to get as much music in as possible on any given and less because I can't deal with "Revolution 9."

But Ken D, there are plenty that I don't feel need to be edited. I actually love "Mountain Jam" from "Eat A Peach," but at 32 minutes, that's an entire Beatles/Beach Boys/Hollies record I could listen to. I think that's where I am, more so than not wanting to actually listen to "Mountain Jam."

But specifically, "Exile On Main Street" is perfect, as is "London Calling." That's two right there, I wouldn't touch.

Sal Nunziato said...

My Elton "GYBR" Edit:

Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
Candle In The Wind
Bennie & the Jets
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
The Ballad Of Danny Bailey
Dirty Little Girl
All The Girls Love Alice
Roy Rogers
Social Disease
Harmony

Anonymous said...

I was really enjoying this Sal (v. well written) then I noticed how bloody long it was. I had places to go, things to do. So I started skimming and quickly lost interest. There's a lesson in here for one of us.

Sal Nunziato said...

Which one?
:)

Rob said...

Skimming - the primary teaching of my 1960's summer school Evelyn Wood Speed Reading course. Works well with Stephen King books but not so much with Sal's musings today 😉

Anonymous said...

As long as you omit Sweet Painted Lady it’s a good mix in my book. Cleveland Jeff