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Cake day: June 25th, 2023

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  • This is a good point:

    “This is a non-binding pledge of intent only. No funds are collected at this stage. This is not a securities offering, investment contract, or financial instrument. Any references to profit-sharing, dividends, or ownership are proposed concepts only — not confirmed arrangements. The final cooperative structure must be reviewed and approved by qualified securities and aviation counsel before any binding commitments are made. Participation does not guarantee ownership, financial return, or membership in any final entity.”

    Still though, I worry that a lot of people are going to be tricked into thinking it’ll be one thing, give money (once they’re actually taking money), and be deceived. Keeping my eye out, just in case, and hopefully others are keeping an eye on it, too.

    If they do solidify it being owned by the people like how they’re advertising, that’s awesome and I’m in.


  • Everytime I’ve been hearing about Spirit Airlines lately, I hear about how this guy trying to rally people to pledge money to buy Spirit Airlines in the hopes of making it community-owned. The problem is, according to their website:

    "PROPORTIONAL PROFIT SHARES

    Under the proposed Spirit 2.0 cooperative structure, profit-sharing distributions would be allocated proportionally to pledge amount. This is a proposed model only — not a confirmed financial arrangement. The final structure must be reviewed and approved by qualified securities counsel before any binding commitments are made.

    PROPOSED ONLY: Profit shares would scale with pledge amount under the proposed structure. This is not a confirmed financial instrument. Nothing here constitutes an offer of securities."

    So while I want to see them convert Spirit Airlines into a community-owned airline business (which would be amazing), I need to see this as a confirmed structure first. I can’t shake the feeling that maybe they would steal all the pledge money and then keep it privatized.

    Maybe I’m being too skeptical, idk.

    EDIT: There’s a legal notice on the page:
    “LEGAL NOTICE: Non-binding pledge of intent only. No money collected. All profit-sharing, dividends, voting rights and ownership references are proposed concepts only — not confirmed. Nothing here is a securities offering, investment contract, or financial instrument. Subject to review by qualified securities & aviation counsel. Participation does not guarantee ownership or financial return.”

    I went ahead and pledged, confirmed no money was taken out of my account or anything. Hope this is going to happen.






  • The people that didn’t vote for the only realistic potential winner of the left wing candidates in the last election are who enabled fascism, and who are the same people stirring the pot with all of the in-fighting, and who are the same people spouting the same shit “BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE.” Might as well be right wing plants.

    If enabling fascism is your long term strategy for real “growth”, I want no part of it. I’d rather enable the party bringing ranked voting to multiple states and hope they continue to push it all the way up to Federal elections. Also, ya know, they’re not completely fucking psychotic.