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Marcus Goldman #2
Le Livre des Baltimore
Jusqu’au jour du Drame, il y avait deux familles Goldman. Les Goldman-de-Baltimore et les Goldman-de-Montclair.
Les Goldman-de-Montclair, dont est issu Marcus Goldman, l’auteur de La Vérité sur l’Affaire Harry Quebert, sont une famille de la classe moyenne, habitant une petite maison à Montclair, dans le New Jersey.
Les Goldman-de-Baltimore sont une famille prospère à qui tout sourit, vivant dans une luxueuse maison d’une banlieue riche de Baltimore, à qui Marcus vouait une admiration sans borne.
Huit ans après le Drame, c’est l’histoire de sa famille que Marcus Goldman décide cette fois de raconter, lorsqu’en février 2012 il quitte l’hiver new-yorkais pour la chaleur tropicale de Boca Raton, en Floride, où il vient s’atteler à son prochain roman.
Au gré des souvenirs de sa jeunesse, Marcus revient sur la vie et le destin des Goldman-de-Baltimore et la fascination qu’il éprouva jadis pour cette famille de l’Amérique huppée, entre les vacances à Miami, la maison de vacances dans les Hamptons et les frasques dans les écoles privées. Mais les années passent et le vernis des Baltimore s’effrite à mesure que le Drame se profile. Jusqu’au jour où tout bascule. Et cette question qui hante Marcus depuis : qu’est-il vraiment arrivé aux Goldman-de-Baltimore ?
Les Goldman-de-Montclair, dont est issu Marcus Goldman, l’auteur de La Vérité sur l’Affaire Harry Quebert, sont une famille de la classe moyenne, habitant une petite maison à Montclair, dans le New Jersey.
Les Goldman-de-Baltimore sont une famille prospère à qui tout sourit, vivant dans une luxueuse maison d’une banlieue riche de Baltimore, à qui Marcus vouait une admiration sans borne.
Huit ans après le Drame, c’est l’histoire de sa famille que Marcus Goldman décide cette fois de raconter, lorsqu’en février 2012 il quitte l’hiver new-yorkais pour la chaleur tropicale de Boca Raton, en Floride, où il vient s’atteler à son prochain roman.
Au gré des souvenirs de sa jeunesse, Marcus revient sur la vie et le destin des Goldman-de-Baltimore et la fascination qu’il éprouva jadis pour cette famille de l’Amérique huppée, entre les vacances à Miami, la maison de vacances dans les Hamptons et les frasques dans les écoles privées. Mais les années passent et le vernis des Baltimore s’effrite à mesure que le Drame se profile. Jusqu’au jour où tout bascule. Et cette question qui hante Marcus depuis : qu’est-il vraiment arrivé aux Goldman-de-Baltimore ?
476 pages, Paperback
First published September 30, 2015
About the author
Joël Dicker
26 books10.1k followersJoël Dicker was born in 1985 in Geneva, Switzerland, where he studied law. He spent childhood summers in New England, particularly in Stonington and Bar Harbor, Maine. The Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair won three French literary prizes, including the Grand Prix du Roman from the Académie Française, and was a finalist for the Prix Goncourt. Dicker lives in Geneva.
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January 26, 2020
Great book! I like this writer (although others seem to have reservations, re. the first book The Truth about the Harry Quebert Affair, but I loved that one too). This book takes the reader through a tragic family chronicle... The Baltimore Boys. The Goldman Gang. It kept me intrigued from start to finish. Only remark I would make (think I made this one for the first book too), the text could have been edited in my opinion to make the book a bit more to the point and lean. Other than that, that's a detail. 5 stars and truly worthwhile to read. Slowly the story unfolds, you get pulled into the lives of the cast in Florida, Baltimore and New York, and you just know the outcome can't be that good.... Talented writer.
Interesting to see most book descriptions here as well as the reviews are in different languages. I (Dutch) read the English translation of a French language book :-) So here is the description: Fresh from the staggering success of his book The Truth about the Harry Quebert Affair, Marcus Goldman is struggling to write his third novel. A chance encounter in Florida throws him some inspiration: Alexandra Neville, the beautiful, successful singer and Marcus' first love. Memories of his childhood and growing up come flooding back. Memories of a family torn apart by tragedy, and a once glorious legacy reduced to shame and ruin.... The Baltimore Boys. The Goldman Gang. That was what they were called: Marcus and his cousins Hillel and Woody. Three brilliant young men with their dazzling futures ahead of them before their kingdom crumbled beneath the weight of lies, jealousy and betrayal. For years, Marcus has struggled with the burdens of his past, but now he must attempt to banish his demons and tell the true and astonishing story of the Baltimore Boys.....
Interesting to see most book descriptions here as well as the reviews are in different languages. I (Dutch) read the English translation of a French language book :-) So here is the description: Fresh from the staggering success of his book The Truth about the Harry Quebert Affair, Marcus Goldman is struggling to write his third novel. A chance encounter in Florida throws him some inspiration: Alexandra Neville, the beautiful, successful singer and Marcus' first love. Memories of his childhood and growing up come flooding back. Memories of a family torn apart by tragedy, and a once glorious legacy reduced to shame and ruin.... The Baltimore Boys. The Goldman Gang. That was what they were called: Marcus and his cousins Hillel and Woody. Three brilliant young men with their dazzling futures ahead of them before their kingdom crumbled beneath the weight of lies, jealousy and betrayal. For years, Marcus has struggled with the burdens of his past, but now he must attempt to banish his demons and tell the true and astonishing story of the Baltimore Boys.....
August 5, 2022
Pues me ha gustado aún más que “La verdad sobre …”, con lo que creo que le daré las cinco estrellas.
La novela retoma a Marcus Goldman, pero en realidad poco o casi nada tiene que ver la trama con la anterior entrega, así que se puede leer independientemente de si la has leído o no, aunque yo aconsejo sí hacerlo.
El drama que rodea a dos familias unidas por la sangre y las circunstancias. Son los Goldman de Baltimore y los Goldman de Montclair. Contada en dos espacios temporales, aunque el orden en que nos los cuenta no está ordenado cronológicamente. Marcus pertenece a los Montclair, pero hubiese deseado pertenecer a los Baltimore, por el glamour que desprende cada uno de sus miembros. Es la historia de su vida, la de sus primos (incluyendo a Woodrow, aunque no lo sea), la de sus tíos, la de sus padres, y también la de Alexandra, el amor de su vida y el de sus primos. La historia principal abarca desde los años 60 hasta el 2004, fecha de El Drama y de la desintegración de los Baltimore. El resto (lo menos interesante) es lo que pasa después de ese acontecimiento, hasta que Marcus publica su primera novela. Y si hay algo que destaca por encima de todo es la soberbia descripción de cada personaje.
Sin ser una historia que vaya a pasar a engrosar mi lista de lecturas inolvidables, al igual que en la anterior, no he podido dejar de leer, salvo cuando no me quedaba más remedio. Independientemente de lo relativo al desencadenante de El Drama, todo lo que me cuenta el autor en esta novela me interesa, y mucho.
Así que sí, le daré mis cinco estrellas, y no dejaré que pase mucho tiempo antes de volver a ponerme con Dicker y con su maravillosa manera de escribir y contar historias. Confío en que mantenga el nivel.
La novela retoma a Marcus Goldman, pero en realidad poco o casi nada tiene que ver la trama con la anterior entrega, así que se puede leer independientemente de si la has leído o no, aunque yo aconsejo sí hacerlo.
El drama que rodea a dos familias unidas por la sangre y las circunstancias. Son los Goldman de Baltimore y los Goldman de Montclair. Contada en dos espacios temporales, aunque el orden en que nos los cuenta no está ordenado cronológicamente. Marcus pertenece a los Montclair, pero hubiese deseado pertenecer a los Baltimore, por el glamour que desprende cada uno de sus miembros. Es la historia de su vida, la de sus primos (incluyendo a Woodrow, aunque no lo sea), la de sus tíos, la de sus padres, y también la de Alexandra, el amor de su vida y el de sus primos. La historia principal abarca desde los años 60 hasta el 2004, fecha de El Drama y de la desintegración de los Baltimore. El resto (lo menos interesante) es lo que pasa después de ese acontecimiento, hasta que Marcus publica su primera novela. Y si hay algo que destaca por encima de todo es la soberbia descripción de cada personaje.
Sin ser una historia que vaya a pasar a engrosar mi lista de lecturas inolvidables, al igual que en la anterior, no he podido dejar de leer, salvo cuando no me quedaba más remedio. Independientemente de lo relativo al desencadenante de El Drama, todo lo que me cuenta el autor en esta novela me interesa, y mucho.
Así que sí, le daré mis cinco estrellas, y no dejaré que pase mucho tiempo antes de volver a ponerme con Dicker y con su maravillosa manera de escribir y contar historias. Confío en que mantenga el nivel.
June 6, 2016
3 de 5 estrellas ⭐️⭐️⭐️ (Me ha gustado)
Es difícil para mi hacer esta reseña, Joël Dicker es uno de esos escritores que hace magia entre página y pagina, su manera de escribir es única y deliciosa.... servidora se declara total admiradora.
El problema no es del libro, el problema es mío que esperaba un Harry Qubert II y eso no ha pasado.
La historia aunque la protagoniza el Gran Marcus no tiene nada que ver con el anterior libro, se pueden leer de forma independiente.
La familia de Baltimore se te mete en el corazón y vives su vida desde muy adentro, especialmente los días de Acción de Gracias.
Me encanta leer a este autor, leería de él hasta la lista de la compra pero esperaba mas misterio, más intriga y una novela menos calmada que ésta.
Joël te seguiré leyendo, siempre ...
Es difícil para mi hacer esta reseña, Joël Dicker es uno de esos escritores que hace magia entre página y pagina, su manera de escribir es única y deliciosa.... servidora se declara total admiradora.
El problema no es del libro, el problema es mío que esperaba un Harry Qubert II y eso no ha pasado.
La historia aunque la protagoniza el Gran Marcus no tiene nada que ver con el anterior libro, se pueden leer de forma independiente.
La familia de Baltimore se te mete en el corazón y vives su vida desde muy adentro, especialmente los días de Acción de Gracias.
Me encanta leer a este autor, leería de él hasta la lista de la compra pero esperaba mas misterio, más intriga y una novela menos calmada que ésta.
Joël te seguiré leyendo, siempre ...
July 24, 2017
When you read a translated novel, you often worry if something has been lost in translation. Joël Dicker’s
The Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair
had a ridiculous story, but also completely strangled prose and dialogue that no human would ever speak. The Baltimore Boys boasts a different translator, but has exactly the same problems as its predecessor. Translator Alison Anderson has also translated the works of Muriel Barbery, and those have read like … books. With sentences and dialogue and everything.
The conclusion you have to draw is that Dicker is a stylist, but possibly one who has never read a book or had a conversation. Possibly this other worldly aura can explain how he has managed to sell millions of books, but otherwise there’s no reason for this diptych to be anything but tipped into a ditch. Where The Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair was at least entertaining in its excesses, The Baltimore Boys is a long and meaningless dirge.
Marcus Goldman, fresh off the success of his second novel, stays in Florida to write his third novel. After following a loose dog back to its home, he finds it belongs to his old girlfriend, Alexandra Neville, “the most celebrated female vocalist and musician in recent years. [T]he idol everyone had been waiting for, for so long, the woman who had revitalised the music industry.” The chance encounter leads to two things: Marcus steals the dog every day so that he has an excuse to see Alexandra, and reflects on growing up with his cousins, the Baltimore Goldmans. The book defines itself in temporal relation to what is ominously called “the Tragedy”.
Unlike Harry Quebert, Marcus has no pressure from his awful publisher or agent (who still gets a page-long diatribe about the pull of television and movies dictating to people what to do, and the line “I called her agent and I said, hey, you, get rid of that fat sow and get out of here! This is a film set, not a pig farm.”) or mother (dialled back from the shrewish New Jersey Jewish stereotype she used to be), and no reason to write a book.
Not that an author needs a reason, but Marcus has literally no drive across the book and no real character arc. In flashback format, Marcus is a passive observer of his frankly horrible cousins, Hillel and the semi-adoptive Woody. It would be wrong to say that pages upon pages are devoted to talking about how good the Baltimore Goldmans are, because that is actually the majority of the novel. Hillel is introduced as a snotty brat who grates against completely unbelievable authority figures (a private school headmaster who thinks children shouldn’t know the word “fascist”; a high school principal who declares Steinbeck’s work to be “a vulgar, blasphemous heap of slang”) and only has three friends, the third being Scott, a football obsessed invalid with advanced cystic fibrosis who sets up what would have been one of the stupidest moments in the book if Dicker didn’t eventually layer them on in such an incredible avalanche that they overwhelm and envelop the reader.
As each character gets older, they don’t become less likeable but they do demonstrate increasingly bad judgement. To make a list of every incredible (in the literal sense of the word) moment in The Baltimore Boys would run 459 pages, because there is something on every page that defies both analysis and common sense. There’s a point where The Baltimore Boys stops being charming in its buffoonery and becomes openly irritating.
By the time you reach the Tragedy, one of the most avoidable in literary history, you may want to throw your book across the room. The whole book builds up to it and it is something so stilted and foolish that the already thin scaffolding that supported it collapses entirely. Dicker has strange ideas about human nature, the endurance of childhood crushes into adulthood, and what constitutes reasonable behaviour. The only motivation that he ascribes to anyone is jealousy, and it clogs up the back half of the story. It’s a simple emotion, but the things that the Baltimore Goldmans do for it are so far beyond what anyone in real life (or in basically any other book) would ever do.
The Baltimore Boys features a pointless support cast, including the improbably named “Sycomorus”, “a young black man who worked [at the supermarket]; he was as tall as a mountain and gentle as a lamb”, who promises his father he won’t “ever become gay” and then disappears for several hundred pages, and Marcus’ nosy next door neighbour, who constantly criticises Marcus’ work ethic; they don’t add atmosphere or further the plot, and are dead on the page.
One may have gathered from the copious quotes littered throughout this review that The Baltimore Boys is not a masterwork of prose. Having a bad story is enough of a stumbling block, but having sentences that need to be read several times to be parsed is a major failing. The book is so long and so overstuffed with pointless dead ends that eventually it’s hard to laugh at non-sequiturs like “That’s life, old elephants die and the lions eat their corpses.” Rather than whatever the Swiss equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome is, you just want to be done with The Baltimore Boys. If you want to give up on it, even if you’re the sort never to give up on books, you would be entirely forgiven.
The Baltimore Boys is a complete mess. Without a single naturally composed sentence or credible character in its 460 pages - that read like at least 200 more - it will be interesting to see whether it properly takes on the English reading book world. One gets the impression that The Truth About The Harry Quebert Affair didn’t quite do the business that was anticipated for what was at the time the biggest acquisition in Penguin Books’ history; The Baltimore Boys is worse in every way, and might be enough to sink Dicker in English. Audiences are now quite used to reading novels in translation, but if a book was never good to begin with, there’s not much to be done about it.
Special note: apart from having a general desire to finish most books, I felt honour bound to finish this one. It actually became difficult to reach the end, whereas normally even if I’m not liking something it’s just one word after the next. Dicker’s words never come in logical sequence, and they’re more like a burden on the soul.
Sometimes you’ve got to do things; sometimes you’ve got to exorcise demons. Whether that’s by writing a dubious fictional best seller or simply by writing a lengthy review, you do it.
The conclusion you have to draw is that Dicker is a stylist, but possibly one who has never read a book or had a conversation. Possibly this other worldly aura can explain how he has managed to sell millions of books, but otherwise there’s no reason for this diptych to be anything but tipped into a ditch. Where The Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair was at least entertaining in its excesses, The Baltimore Boys is a long and meaningless dirge.
Marcus Goldman, fresh off the success of his second novel, stays in Florida to write his third novel. After following a loose dog back to its home, he finds it belongs to his old girlfriend, Alexandra Neville, “the most celebrated female vocalist and musician in recent years. [T]he idol everyone had been waiting for, for so long, the woman who had revitalised the music industry.” The chance encounter leads to two things: Marcus steals the dog every day so that he has an excuse to see Alexandra, and reflects on growing up with his cousins, the Baltimore Goldmans. The book defines itself in temporal relation to what is ominously called “the Tragedy”.
Unlike Harry Quebert, Marcus has no pressure from his awful publisher or agent (who still gets a page-long diatribe about the pull of television and movies dictating to people what to do, and the line “I called her agent and I said, hey, you, get rid of that fat sow and get out of here! This is a film set, not a pig farm.”) or mother (dialled back from the shrewish New Jersey Jewish stereotype she used to be), and no reason to write a book.
Not that an author needs a reason, but Marcus has literally no drive across the book and no real character arc. In flashback format, Marcus is a passive observer of his frankly horrible cousins, Hillel and the semi-adoptive Woody. It would be wrong to say that pages upon pages are devoted to talking about how good the Baltimore Goldmans are, because that is actually the majority of the novel. Hillel is introduced as a snotty brat who grates against completely unbelievable authority figures (a private school headmaster who thinks children shouldn’t know the word “fascist”; a high school principal who declares Steinbeck’s work to be “a vulgar, blasphemous heap of slang”) and only has three friends, the third being Scott, a football obsessed invalid with advanced cystic fibrosis who sets up what would have been one of the stupidest moments in the book if Dicker didn’t eventually layer them on in such an incredible avalanche that they overwhelm and envelop the reader.
As each character gets older, they don’t become less likeable but they do demonstrate increasingly bad judgement. To make a list of every incredible (in the literal sense of the word) moment in The Baltimore Boys would run 459 pages, because there is something on every page that defies both analysis and common sense. There’s a point where The Baltimore Boys stops being charming in its buffoonery and becomes openly irritating.
By the time you reach the Tragedy, one of the most avoidable in literary history, you may want to throw your book across the room. The whole book builds up to it and it is something so stilted and foolish that the already thin scaffolding that supported it collapses entirely. Dicker has strange ideas about human nature, the endurance of childhood crushes into adulthood, and what constitutes reasonable behaviour. The only motivation that he ascribes to anyone is jealousy, and it clogs up the back half of the story. It’s a simple emotion, but the things that the Baltimore Goldmans do for it are so far beyond what anyone in real life (or in basically any other book) would ever do.
The Baltimore Boys features a pointless support cast, including the improbably named “Sycomorus”, “a young black man who worked [at the supermarket]; he was as tall as a mountain and gentle as a lamb”, who promises his father he won’t “ever become gay” and then disappears for several hundred pages, and Marcus’ nosy next door neighbour, who constantly criticises Marcus’ work ethic; they don’t add atmosphere or further the plot, and are dead on the page.
One may have gathered from the copious quotes littered throughout this review that The Baltimore Boys is not a masterwork of prose. Having a bad story is enough of a stumbling block, but having sentences that need to be read several times to be parsed is a major failing. The book is so long and so overstuffed with pointless dead ends that eventually it’s hard to laugh at non-sequiturs like “That’s life, old elephants die and the lions eat their corpses.” Rather than whatever the Swiss equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome is, you just want to be done with The Baltimore Boys. If you want to give up on it, even if you’re the sort never to give up on books, you would be entirely forgiven.
The Baltimore Boys is a complete mess. Without a single naturally composed sentence or credible character in its 460 pages - that read like at least 200 more - it will be interesting to see whether it properly takes on the English reading book world. One gets the impression that The Truth About The Harry Quebert Affair didn’t quite do the business that was anticipated for what was at the time the biggest acquisition in Penguin Books’ history; The Baltimore Boys is worse in every way, and might be enough to sink Dicker in English. Audiences are now quite used to reading novels in translation, but if a book was never good to begin with, there’s not much to be done about it.
Special note: apart from having a general desire to finish most books, I felt honour bound to finish this one. It actually became difficult to reach the end, whereas normally even if I’m not liking something it’s just one word after the next. Dicker’s words never come in logical sequence, and they’re more like a burden on the soul.
Sometimes you’ve got to do things; sometimes you’ve got to exorcise demons. Whether that’s by writing a dubious fictional best seller or simply by writing a lengthy review, you do it.
September 9, 2023
"Die Geschichte der Baltimores" ist für mich das erste Buch von Joël Dicker. Ich war sehr gespannt auf das Buch, da ich von dem Autor bisher eigentlich nur Gutes gehört hatte. Vielleicht waren meine Erwartungen daher auch etwas zu hoch. Zwar hat mir das Buch wirklich sehr gut gefallen, aber zeitweise zog sich die Geschichte etwas und mir fehlte ein bisschen die Spannung. Dennoch werde ich sicherlich noch weitere Geschichten von Joël Dicker lesen!
July 17, 2020
El tan manido "segundas partes nunca fueron buenas" puede ser arrojado por el inodoro por dos motivos:
* No es la segunda parte de La verdad sobre el caso Harry Quebert ya que únicamente comparten su protagonista: Marcus Goldman.
* Me pareció una novela muy buena.
En cuanto llegué al punto final me dije: "Dicker lo ha vuelto a hacer".
* No es la segunda parte de La verdad sobre el caso Harry Quebert ya que únicamente comparten su protagonista: Marcus Goldman.
* Me pareció una novela muy buena.
En cuanto llegué al punto final me dije: "Dicker lo ha vuelto a hacer".
February 28, 2021
Hiermit ist Joel Dicker nun offiziell einer meiner liebsten Autoren! Ich hatte nach "Die Wahrheit über den Fall Harry Quebert" Angst, dass Dicker mich nach diesem Highlight mit seinem nächsten Buch nicht mehr so begeistern kann. Aber zum Glück habe ich mich getäuscht und der Autor knüpft an seine Genialität an. Allein der Schreibstil ist eine Wucht und macht das Buch schon allein dadurch zu einem Meisterwerk. Man hat genau wie in seinem ersten Buch einfach das Gefühl, dass jedes Wort absolut perfekt und mit Bedacht ausgewählt und abgewogen wurde und das ohne dass es den Schreibstil künstlich wirken lässt. Man fließt ganz natürlich im Lesefluss durch die Seiten und Dicker schafft es wie kein anderer permanent eine unterschwellige Spannung aufrecht zu erhalten. Ich wollte nach jedem Kapitel wissen wie es weitergeht und nach jedem Abschnitt, in die das Buch wieder unterteilt ist, konnte ich den nächsten nicht erwarten. Wir verfolgen die Goldman-Gang hier von klein an bis ins Jetzt und trotzdem wurde es niemals langweilig. Ganz im Gegenteil: ich hatte das Gefühl, dass auch ich mit zur Goldman-Gang gehöre.
Auch das Ende war für mich perfekt! Ich kann diese Bücher/diesen Autor einfach nur jedem empfehlen! Es sind einzigartige Geschichten mit einem einzigartigen Schreibstil zu Papier gebracht!
Auch das Ende war für mich perfekt! Ich kann diese Bücher/diesen Autor einfach nur jedem empfehlen! Es sind einzigartige Geschichten mit einem einzigartigen Schreibstil zu Papier gebracht!
October 26, 2016
Quanto è bello quando trovi quei libri che ti prendono già dalle prime parole. Quelli che ti fanno fare tardi la notte, che vorresti leggere per ore intere ma un po' ti trattieni perché in fondo non vuoi che finiscano troppo presto; quelli che ti fanno organizzare in modo diverso la giornata (dai faccio subito questo lavoro così finisco presto e riesco a leggere qualche pagina).
Di 5 stelle ne ho letti tanti, ma poi ci sono quelli che hanno qualcosa in più, una specie di sesta stella, che non si può mettere ma dentro di te senti che c'è.
E ora non voglio parlare della prosa di Dicker: ho sempre preferito una scrittura semplice ma che ti cattura ad una superba ma noiosa. Su questo non c'è altro da dire.
Questa è la storia della famiglia Goldman (ma non ha nulla a che vedere con le solite saghe famigliari), anzi dellE famigliE Goldman: quella perfetta di Baltimore, la più ricca, la più riuscita (e tutti gli altri "più" che si possono mettere), e i quella di Montclair (di cui fa parte il narratore e protagonista, quel Marcus Goldman di Harry Quebert), in tutto e per tutto sempre uno scalino più in basso dell'altra.
Il romanzo è come un lungo filo che si intreccia tra le famiglie nel corso degli anni (e si, con i soliti salti temporali che secondo me Dicker gestisce molto bene).
Insomma questo filo ti si attorciglia addosso, non riesci a sbrogliarlo finchè non arrivi alla fine della storia. Ma poi vorresti riavvolgerlo e ricominciare da capo, ricominciare la lettura come se nulla fosse, come se quel libro non l'avessi mai visto in vita tua.
Peccato averlo già finito, chissà quando incontrerò di nuovo un 6 stelle :-(
Di 5 stelle ne ho letti tanti, ma poi ci sono quelli che hanno qualcosa in più, una specie di sesta stella, che non si può mettere ma dentro di te senti che c'è.
E ora non voglio parlare della prosa di Dicker: ho sempre preferito una scrittura semplice ma che ti cattura ad una superba ma noiosa. Su questo non c'è altro da dire.
Questa è la storia della famiglia Goldman (ma non ha nulla a che vedere con le solite saghe famigliari), anzi dellE famigliE Goldman: quella perfetta di Baltimore, la più ricca, la più riuscita (e tutti gli altri "più" che si possono mettere), e i quella di Montclair (di cui fa parte il narratore e protagonista, quel Marcus Goldman di Harry Quebert), in tutto e per tutto sempre uno scalino più in basso dell'altra.
Il romanzo è come un lungo filo che si intreccia tra le famiglie nel corso degli anni (e si, con i soliti salti temporali che secondo me Dicker gestisce molto bene).
Insomma questo filo ti si attorciglia addosso, non riesci a sbrogliarlo finchè non arrivi alla fine della storia. Ma poi vorresti riavvolgerlo e ricominciare da capo, ricominciare la lettura come se nulla fosse, come se quel libro non l'avessi mai visto in vita tua.
Peccato averlo già finito, chissà quando incontrerò di nuovo un 6 stelle :-(
January 18, 2021
This book is terribly bad. I had to read it (more like I skipped over most of it) until the end just to find out what the "TRAGEDY" would be. It´s so full of boring and stupid repetitions. Silly and ridiculous storyline. And the way the author writes most of his female characters should be addressed by his readers. They´re all either disgusting or completely unreal. Seriously, are we okay with all the women being vile or cringe-worthy? I can´t believe the reviews and adoration both the Joel Dicker books get, they absolutely do not deserve it, although the first one is more of a fun romp than this one is. This one is like death. I read it for the popsugar reading challenge, as a book recommended by a librarian. I don´t think my towns librarian had actually read it herself, more like she was going by customers word of mouth. People actually think this is good, which is quite sad.
January 6, 2020
Eine gut geschriebene, sehr dramatische Familiengeschichte, die grade gegen Ende nochmal Fahrt aufgenommen hat. Für mich gab es im Laufe des Buches jedoch einige Längen & auch wenn mich die Charaktere, deren Freundschaft und die katastrophalen Ereignisse sehr bewegt haben, hat es mich insgesamt bei weitem nicht so gefesselt wie z.B "Die Wahrheit über den Fall Harry Quebert". Nichtsdestotrotz möchte ich noch mehr von Joël Dicker lesen, da ich seinen Schreibstil & seine klug durchdachten, unvorhersehbaren Entwicklungen in seinen Geschichten großartig finde!
December 24, 2023
Я дуже довго обмірковувала цю книгу і не знала, як її оцінити. Читала її довго, відтягуючи момент Драми (хто читав, той розуміє, чому це слово написане саме так). В якийсь момент я зрозуміла, що не дивлячись на те, що я читаю - я часто думками з братами - Маркусом, Вуді та Гіллелем.
Книгу кожен сприйме по-своєму. Неможливо розповісти, про що вона, адже тут просто історія родини, яка є зовсім непростою.
У кожного з нас є свої таємниці, всі ми різні. Інколи, ми думаємо, що знаємо когось на всі сто, але виходить, що ця людина ховала від нас найсокровенніше.
Мені здалося, автор хотів показати нам, що кожен відповідає за своє життя (власне, цю фразу можна знайти під кінець). Тільки ми самі відповідаємо за те, що з нами відбувається, ніхто інший не має сили впливу більшої, за нашу власну волю.
В цій історії, як на мене, немає суто позитивних чи суто негативних персонажів, вони всі дуже складні і у кожного своя доля.
Може, я занадто драматична, і тому вважаю цю книжку пʼятизірковою (не шедевром, але чудовою сімейною сагою про три покоління), а може, вона дійсно така.
«Драми були й будуть, а жити треба попри все. Драм уникнути неможливо. Та й, по правді, неважливі вони. Важливо те, як ти з них виходиш.» с.536
Книгу кожен сприйме по-своєму. Неможливо розповісти, про що вона, адже тут просто історія родини, яка є зовсім непростою.
У кожного з нас є свої таємниці, всі ми різні. Інколи, ми думаємо, що знаємо когось на всі сто, але виходить, що ця людина ховала від нас найсокровенніше.
Мені здалося, автор хотів показати нам, що кожен відповідає за своє життя (власне, цю фразу можна знайти під кінець). Тільки ми самі відповідаємо за те, що з нами відбувається, ніхто інший не має сили впливу більшої, за нашу власну волю.
В цій історії, як на мене, немає суто позитивних чи суто негативних персонажів, вони всі дуже складні і у кожного своя доля.
Може, я занадто драматична, і тому вважаю цю книжку пʼятизірковою (не шедевром, але чудовою сімейною сагою про три покоління), а може, вона дійсно така.
«Драми були й будуть, а жити треба попри все. Драм уникнути неможливо. Та й, по правді, неважливі вони. Важливо те, як ти з них виходиш.» с.536
January 5, 2025
Признавам, очаквах много повече от този роман. Но не съм съвсем разочарован, книгата е четивна и поне я довърших.
Голям почитател съм на Ъруин Шоу, който има произведение със сходен сюжет - "Хляб по водите", него съм препрочитал няколко пъти през годините, винаги с голямо удоволствие.
За съжаление на Жоел Дикер, сравнението не е в негова полза. Явно летвата с историята за Хари Куебърт е вдигната твърде високо и ще му е трудно да я достигне или надскочи.
Все пак, ще очаквам следващата му книга на български - (дочаках я, и тя горчиво разочарование се оказа...).
Голям почитател съм на Ъруин Шоу, който има произведение със сходен сюжет - "Хляб по водите", него съм препрочитал няколко пъти през годините, винаги с голямо удоволствие.
За съжаление на Жоел Дикер, сравнението не е в негова полза. Явно летвата с историята за Хари Куебърт е вдигната твърде високо и ще му е трудно да я достигне или надскочи.
Все пак, ще очаквам следващата му книга на български - (дочаках я, и тя горчиво разочарование се оказа...).
September 22, 2020
The Baltimore Boys by Joel Dicker is his second book translated from French. The first The Harry Quebert Affair, is one of my all time favourites. So I was eager to read this one.
Three cousins Marcus, Hillel and Woody are bound together as the Goldman Gang. We live through their childhood, college years and start of adulthood. Hillel & Woody are part of the wealthy Goldman family in Baltimore and have a idilic life, massive luxury homes in Baltimore and Florida. However, Marcus is from the not so wealthy Goldman family in Montclair living under the Baltimore Goldman’s ‘golden’ shadow.
You know from the start there has been a tragedy and the story weaves through the years, to bring you to a neat conclusion.
This epic family tragedy is seen through the eyes of one of the cousins, Marcus Goldman, who becomes an established author ........ the same author as in the Harry Qubert Affair (to be honest I didn’t realise until after I finished the book .... I am so hopeless at remembering names and characters 😊)
Overall I was sad to finish this book and to be leaving the Goldman’s behind but I think it will sit just behind The Harry Qubert Affair in my affections!
Three cousins Marcus, Hillel and Woody are bound together as the Goldman Gang. We live through their childhood, college years and start of adulthood. Hillel & Woody are part of the wealthy Goldman family in Baltimore and have a idilic life, massive luxury homes in Baltimore and Florida. However, Marcus is from the not so wealthy Goldman family in Montclair living under the Baltimore Goldman’s ‘golden’ shadow.
You know from the start there has been a tragedy and the story weaves through the years, to bring you to a neat conclusion.
This epic family tragedy is seen through the eyes of one of the cousins, Marcus Goldman, who becomes an established author ........ the same author as in the Harry Qubert Affair (to be honest I didn’t realise until after I finished the book .... I am so hopeless at remembering names and characters 😊)
Overall I was sad to finish this book and to be leaving the Goldman’s behind but I think it will sit just behind The Harry Qubert Affair in my affections!
August 21, 2020
Es impresionante la forma que tiene tan fantástica de escribir este muchacho, no leí nada de el, solo esto, pero el libro me ha tenido totalmente enganchada, porque te hacía siempre querer saber más y más y más.
Merece muchísimo la pena leer este libro, aunque solo sea por la forma de narrar que tiene, pero es que además la historia te absorbe totalmente y no puedes parar de leer..
Una novela llena de sentimientos.
Extracto del libro:
La fama solo es un traje, un traje que al final te queda pequeño o está gastado o acaban robándotelo. Lo que cuenta por encima de todo es lo que eres cuando estás desnudo.
Al igual que todo empieza, todo termina, y los libros a menudo empiezan por el final.
Todo queda reparado...
Merece muchísimo la pena leer este libro, aunque solo sea por la forma de narrar que tiene, pero es que además la historia te absorbe totalmente y no puedes parar de leer..
Una novela llena de sentimientos.
Extracto del libro:
La fama solo es un traje, un traje que al final te queda pequeño o está gastado o acaban robándotelo. Lo que cuenta por encima de todo es lo que eres cuando estás desnudo.
Al igual que todo empieza, todo termina, y los libros a menudo empiezan por el final.
Todo queda reparado...
April 18, 2023
2,5
Segunda reseña
La novela tiene como protagonista a Marcus Goldman, y gira en torno al vínculo de amistad, admiración y cierta envidia con sus primos ricos, los Goldman de Baltimore.
La novela salta atrás y adelante en el tiempo, y nos permite vislumbrar que en algún momento ocurrió algo terrible (que Marcus denomina "El Drama") con los Goldman de Baltimore.
Aunque para mi gusto la novela no tiene una gran valor literario, la trama es atrapante, y el desenlace, impactante.
Primera reseña
La tapa de mi ejemplar, luce orgullosa la cucarda que anuncia Best Seller. Estrictamente entendido, se refiere a un libro que ha vendido muchos ejemplares; pero el término también se usa, a veces despectivamente y a veces como mérito, para designar cierto tipo de literatura.
He abordado este libro por alguna recomendación, y en parte alentado por tratarse de un autor suizo. Pero a poco de andar me he encontrado que Dicker ha tratado de hacer un best seller, que además, parezca americano.
Personalmente no me gusta el género, y pese a tratar de leerlo sin prejuicios, este libro no fue la excepción; los personajes me parecieron estereotipados y sin profundidad; los diálogos, insustanciales; y la trama avanza con larguísimos párrafos que parecen querer asegurar que todos los lectores han entendido, sin dudas, los hechos que van ocurriendo. Y alcanza su cenit al aclarar de que se trata "El Drama", con muchos golpes de efecto.
La historia no es mala, aunque por la forma de contarla, propia del género, no estará entre mis libros preferidos.
Segunda reseña
La novela tiene como protagonista a Marcus Goldman, y gira en torno al vínculo de amistad, admiración y cierta envidia con sus primos ricos, los Goldman de Baltimore.
La novela salta atrás y adelante en el tiempo, y nos permite vislumbrar que en algún momento ocurrió algo terrible (que Marcus denomina "El Drama") con los Goldman de Baltimore.
Aunque para mi gusto la novela no tiene una gran valor literario, la trama es atrapante, y el desenlace, impactante.
Primera reseña
La tapa de mi ejemplar, luce orgullosa la cucarda que anuncia Best Seller. Estrictamente entendido, se refiere a un libro que ha vendido muchos ejemplares; pero el término también se usa, a veces despectivamente y a veces como mérito, para designar cierto tipo de literatura.
He abordado este libro por alguna recomendación, y en parte alentado por tratarse de un autor suizo. Pero a poco de andar me he encontrado que Dicker ha tratado de hacer un best seller, que además, parezca americano.
Personalmente no me gusta el género, y pese a tratar de leerlo sin prejuicios, este libro no fue la excepción; los personajes me parecieron estereotipados y sin profundidad; los diálogos, insustanciales; y la trama avanza con larguísimos párrafos que parecen querer asegurar que todos los lectores han entendido, sin dudas, los hechos que van ocurriendo. Y alcanza su cenit al aclarar de que se trata "El Drama", con muchos golpes de efecto.
La historia no es mala, aunque por la forma de contarla, propia del género, no estará entre mis libros preferidos.
August 17, 2018
Absolutes Lesehighlight!!!!
August 2, 2018
5 out of 5 stars! ⭐️ OUR APRIL 2018 BOOK CLUB READ: Joël Dicker did it again. No one writes as he does... I cried silent tears at the end of the book. I am so shocked in all the good ways though! What an epic book about a family tragedy and how well thought through the entire story was! A true piece of literary art.
So here is what the family tragedy is about: Fresh from the staggering success of THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HARRY QUEBERT AFFAIR, Marcus Goldman is struggling to write his third novel. A chance encounter in Florida throws him some inspiration from a surprising source: Alexandra Neville, the beautiful, phenomenally successful singer and Marcus's first love. All at once, memories of his childhood come flooding back. Memories of a family torn apart by tragedy, and a once glorious legacy reduced to shame and ruin. The Baltimore Boys. The Goldman Gang. That was what they called Marcus, and his cousins Hillel and Woody. Three brilliant young men with their whole lives ahead of them, before their kingdom crumbled beneath the weight of lies, jealousy and betrayal. For years, Marcus has struggled with the burdens of his past, but now, he must attempt to banish his demons and tell the real story of the Baltimore Boys.
I loved this story about three charismatic boys growing to maturity in the 1990s and early 2000s with all the social and political changes of America in that time. I guess it must be true when they say that you haven’t lived until you have read and lived through all the emotions in a Dicker novel. What amazes me the most is that a person can create these types of feelings ‘only’ by using words and make such a crazy story so believable. It’ll tear your heart & your guts out, but it’ll be so worth it, I promise. AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ!!! ❤️👍🏻📖
“Grâce aux livres,
Tout était effacé
Tout était oublié.
Tout était pardonné.
Tout était reparé.” - Joël Dicker, ‘Le Livre des Baltimore’
So here is what the family tragedy is about: Fresh from the staggering success of THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HARRY QUEBERT AFFAIR, Marcus Goldman is struggling to write his third novel. A chance encounter in Florida throws him some inspiration from a surprising source: Alexandra Neville, the beautiful, phenomenally successful singer and Marcus's first love. All at once, memories of his childhood come flooding back. Memories of a family torn apart by tragedy, and a once glorious legacy reduced to shame and ruin. The Baltimore Boys. The Goldman Gang. That was what they called Marcus, and his cousins Hillel and Woody. Three brilliant young men with their whole lives ahead of them, before their kingdom crumbled beneath the weight of lies, jealousy and betrayal. For years, Marcus has struggled with the burdens of his past, but now, he must attempt to banish his demons and tell the real story of the Baltimore Boys.
I loved this story about three charismatic boys growing to maturity in the 1990s and early 2000s with all the social and political changes of America in that time. I guess it must be true when they say that you haven’t lived until you have read and lived through all the emotions in a Dicker novel. What amazes me the most is that a person can create these types of feelings ‘only’ by using words and make such a crazy story so believable. It’ll tear your heart & your guts out, but it’ll be so worth it, I promise. AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ!!! ❤️👍🏻📖
“Grâce aux livres,
Tout était effacé
Tout était oublié.
Tout était pardonné.
Tout était reparé.” - Joël Dicker, ‘Le Livre des Baltimore’
November 30, 2022
4,5
Vuelvo a leer este libro y para mi sigue siendo el mejor hasta el momento de todos los del autor, con su estilo y su gran manera de crear unos personajes magníficos.
Como suele pasar: NO ES UN THRILLER y NO es una segunda parte de Harry Quebert, es verdad que Marcus Goldman aparece de nuevo, pero esta vez no será como protagonista, será el narrador, y contará la historia de su familia.
Como he dicho en esta novela destacará la historia de la familia de Marcus, y todo lo que pasó en el año 2004, lo que el autor llama el DRAMA.
Asique según vamos leyendo y avanzando van entrando en juego personajes, hechos, historias cruzadas y todo quedará bien hilado para entender a que se refiere el autor con el tal DRAMA.
Una novela de personajes, una novela sobre Marcus y su familia, una historia sobre como una familia parece una cosa, pero realmente es otra, y que nada es lo que parece, una familia que cuando pasan cosas "importantes" es otra distinta.
Hay algo en las novelas de este autor que gusta, interesante, que te engancha, siempre pensé que este libro sería mas lento, pero a medida que vas avanzando no puedes parar y descubrir todo lo que pasa con ells.
La novela esta contada en dos épocas, una de ellas que corresponde a la vida de Marcus con sus primos, padres, abuelos. hasta llegar a ese Drama, y la "actual" donde Marcus intenta escribir una nueva novela, quizá esta parte del presente no es tan representativa en la historia, pero es verdad que sirve para situarte en el tiempo.
Si algo tengo que destacar y no podía faltar, son los personajes, todos los personajes están muy bien desarrollados, todos tienen algo que los distingue y diferencia de los demás, quizá por eso según leas y los conozcas te haces una idea de lo que va a pasar, pero aún conociéndolos ocurrirán cosas que no te esperas.
No puedo dejar de recomendaros esta historia, vais a amar a los personajes, vais a tener un favorito y también vas a odiar alguno que otro.
Vuelvo a leer este libro y para mi sigue siendo el mejor hasta el momento de todos los del autor, con su estilo y su gran manera de crear unos personajes magníficos.
Como suele pasar: NO ES UN THRILLER y NO es una segunda parte de Harry Quebert, es verdad que Marcus Goldman aparece de nuevo, pero esta vez no será como protagonista, será el narrador, y contará la historia de su familia.
Como he dicho en esta novela destacará la historia de la familia de Marcus, y todo lo que pasó en el año 2004, lo que el autor llama el DRAMA.
Asique según vamos leyendo y avanzando van entrando en juego personajes, hechos, historias cruzadas y todo quedará bien hilado para entender a que se refiere el autor con el tal DRAMA.
Una novela de personajes, una novela sobre Marcus y su familia, una historia sobre como una familia parece una cosa, pero realmente es otra, y que nada es lo que parece, una familia que cuando pasan cosas "importantes" es otra distinta.
Hay algo en las novelas de este autor que gusta, interesante, que te engancha, siempre pensé que este libro sería mas lento, pero a medida que vas avanzando no puedes parar y descubrir todo lo que pasa con ells.
La novela esta contada en dos épocas, una de ellas que corresponde a la vida de Marcus con sus primos, padres, abuelos. hasta llegar a ese Drama, y la "actual" donde Marcus intenta escribir una nueva novela, quizá esta parte del presente no es tan representativa en la historia, pero es verdad que sirve para situarte en el tiempo.
Si algo tengo que destacar y no podía faltar, son los personajes, todos los personajes están muy bien desarrollados, todos tienen algo que los distingue y diferencia de los demás, quizá por eso según leas y los conozcas te haces una idea de lo que va a pasar, pero aún conociéndolos ocurrirán cosas que no te esperas.
No puedo dejar de recomendaros esta historia, vais a amar a los personajes, vais a tener un favorito y también vas a odiar alguno que otro.
January 1, 2019
Le style d'écriture un peu moyen (surtout sur les dialogues d'amour, c'est si niais !) ne m'a pas empêché d'adorer cette histoire, dévorée d'un bout à l'autre et refermée avec beaucoup d'émotion. Je reste marquée du souvenir des Goldman et les Neville alors qu'ils n'ont jamais vraiment existé: c'est la magie des livres !
January 16, 2024
Mă așteptam la o carte polițistă, dar romanul este povestea unei familii care măcinată de intrigii, indivdii, minciuni și trădări ajunge să trăiască dramă după dramă. Dicker m-a surprins plăcut, chiar dacă în câteva pasaje a forțat un pic nota pentru a crea cadrul situațiilor dramatice.
December 29, 2020
La fascinación por el modo de vida de las grandes familias americanas de la costa este, con sus mansiones y su existencia placentera, es el marco de la acción en este libro.
Aparece de nuevo Marcus Goldman, personaje de La verdad sobre el caso Harry Quebert. Aquí nos cuenta la relación de su familia, los Goldman de Montclair con sus adinerados primos, los Goldman de Baltimore. Es casi una comparación de dos clases sociales bien definidas y sus circunstancias. Durante su infancia y juventud los parientes de Baltimore le inspiran una adoración sin límites, pero hay un incidente – al que se alude como ‘el drama’ – que lo cambia todo. La narración es un compás de espera hasta que conocemos ese incidente -al que se alude con excesiva frecuencia - y cómo alteró sus vidas.
Creo que Joel Dicker es básicamente un escritor de best-sellers y por tanto este libro, como el anterior, se lee fácilmente a pesar del número exagerado de páginas, gracias a los capítulos cortos y a la manera de desarrollar la intriga. Dicho esto, creo que hay un mejor retrato de la American way of life y sus clases sociales en cualquier relato corto de John Cheever que en toda esta novela. Me ha faltado un poco de profundidad y me ha sobrado repetición; por ejemplo, creo que un buen escritor no hace decir al personaje continuamente ‘yo los admiraba mucho’, eso se tiene que desprender de la narración.
Pero en conjunto es un libro entretenido e interesante, de fácil lectura.
3,7
Aparece de nuevo Marcus Goldman, personaje de La verdad sobre el caso Harry Quebert. Aquí nos cuenta la relación de su familia, los Goldman de Montclair con sus adinerados primos, los Goldman de Baltimore. Es casi una comparación de dos clases sociales bien definidas y sus circunstancias. Durante su infancia y juventud los parientes de Baltimore le inspiran una adoración sin límites, pero hay un incidente – al que se alude como ‘el drama’ – que lo cambia todo. La narración es un compás de espera hasta que conocemos ese incidente -al que se alude con excesiva frecuencia - y cómo alteró sus vidas.
Creo que Joel Dicker es básicamente un escritor de best-sellers y por tanto este libro, como el anterior, se lee fácilmente a pesar del número exagerado de páginas, gracias a los capítulos cortos y a la manera de desarrollar la intriga. Dicho esto, creo que hay un mejor retrato de la American way of life y sus clases sociales en cualquier relato corto de John Cheever que en toda esta novela. Me ha faltado un poco de profundidad y me ha sobrado repetición; por ejemplo, creo que un buen escritor no hace decir al personaje continuamente ‘yo los admiraba mucho’, eso se tiene que desprender de la narración.
Pero en conjunto es un libro entretenido e interesante, de fácil lectura.
3,7
July 30, 2016
No tiene nada que ver con La verdad sobre el caso Harry Quebert (salvo el protagonista Marcus), ni siquiera es el mismo género, pero me ha encantado
February 15, 2023
4.5 rounded up
A Eulogy for Fallen Demigods
Just like in La Vérité sur l'Affaire Harry Quebert, I had the strong impression Dicker isn’t talking about real people, but about demigods walking among mortals.
This accounts for the larger-that-life characters, the plethora of frankly unbelievable situations/coincidences, and the slightly hysterical humour present in both novels.
Dicker sets up the demigod status of the Baltimore Goldmans, and then shows how demigods can stumble and fall – much to their own amazement and horror - in a series of what the narrator calls “dramas” (as in the Greek tragedy kind).
The further the Goldman Gods (not Gang) plummet into their tragedies, the more human they become. They show their weaknesses, their pain and feelings of envy and loss, not just their shining godhood. They become more like us and the story becomes gripping, not simply a series of entertaining Hercules tales.
And that’s what makes this novel a virtually 5-star read – despite the overly long first section and some melodramatic weepiness towards the end which got a half a star subtraction.
It’s a modern Greek tragedy. A loving eulogy sung for fallen demigods, by…how ironic…the “mere mortal” in the family who ascended into fame and glory, even eclipsing his divine cousins in the end.
Marcus Goldman, the true Hercules of the Goldmans and avenger of Harry Quebert. (Talk about demigods! Marcus is a classic example.)
I read this one in French as part of the Foreign Language Challenge 2023.
A Eulogy for Fallen Demigods
Just like in La Vérité sur l'Affaire Harry Quebert, I had the strong impression Dicker isn’t talking about real people, but about demigods walking among mortals.
This accounts for the larger-that-life characters, the plethora of frankly unbelievable situations/coincidences, and the slightly hysterical humour present in both novels.
Dicker sets up the demigod status of the Baltimore Goldmans, and then shows how demigods can stumble and fall – much to their own amazement and horror - in a series of what the narrator calls “dramas” (as in the Greek tragedy kind).
The further the Goldman Gods (not Gang) plummet into their tragedies, the more human they become. They show their weaknesses, their pain and feelings of envy and loss, not just their shining godhood. They become more like us and the story becomes gripping, not simply a series of entertaining Hercules tales.
And that’s what makes this novel a virtually 5-star read – despite the overly long first section and some melodramatic weepiness towards the end which got a half a star subtraction.
It’s a modern Greek tragedy. A loving eulogy sung for fallen demigods, by…how ironic…the “mere mortal” in the family who ascended into fame and glory, even eclipsing his divine cousins in the end.
Marcus Goldman, the true Hercules of the Goldmans and avenger of Harry Quebert. (Talk about demigods! Marcus is a classic example.)
I read this one in French as part of the Foreign Language Challenge 2023.
May 5, 2023
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JOËL DICKER A L’ULTIME CERVEAU JE COMPRENDS PAS COMMENT IL FAIT POUR FAIRE DES AUSSI BONS LIVRES😭😭
j’ai lu Alaska Sanders avant les Baltimore et je ne pourrais pas être plus contente. je m’attendais à une enquête comme dans les deux autres livres mais finalement on a droit à une sorte de préquel/backstory sur le personnage de marcus et de sa famille. comme j’ai adoré chacun des personnages🥹 joël dicker a le don pour qu’ils soit terriblement attachants et dangereusement nuancés. les premières centaines de pages nous amadouent dans une histoire touchante pour mieux nous briser le coeur ensuite. comme à notre habitude, on se fait surprendre à tous les quelques chapitres par des retournements de situation choquants (j’avais littéralement la bouche bée à la marque des 400 pages). dicker sait exactement comment poser de nouvelles questions et répondre aux anciennes à la fois pour nous donner envie de poursuivre au plus vite la lecture et à la fois pour nous satisfaire avec une histoire ficelée d’une main de maître. yall i went through it avec mes baltimore😭 c’est drôle touchant choquant mignon arghhhhh je suis triste de l’avoir fini j’avais hâte de savoir comment ça se terminait mais je voulais pas terminer ma lecture pour ça c’est pas juste😔💔 je crois que ce tome est pas le préféré des tous parce qu’il est moins policier, mais pour ma part j’ai trouvé que ça apportait un équilibre plus que bienvenu. est ce que c’est un sacrilège de dire que je l’ai presque autant trouvé bon que harry quebert?🤭
en bref gros coup de coeur je pense que je vais pas en revenir avant plusieurs jours ouvrables………….
JOËL DICKER A L’ULTIME CERVEAU JE COMPRENDS PAS COMMENT IL FAIT POUR FAIRE DES AUSSI BONS LIVRES😭😭
j’ai lu Alaska Sanders avant les Baltimore et je ne pourrais pas être plus contente. je m’attendais à une enquête comme dans les deux autres livres mais finalement on a droit à une sorte de préquel/backstory sur le personnage de marcus et de sa famille. comme j’ai adoré chacun des personnages🥹 joël dicker a le don pour qu’ils soit terriblement attachants et dangereusement nuancés. les premières centaines de pages nous amadouent dans une histoire touchante pour mieux nous briser le coeur ensuite. comme à notre habitude, on se fait surprendre à tous les quelques chapitres par des retournements de situation choquants (j’avais littéralement la bouche bée à la marque des 400 pages). dicker sait exactement comment poser de nouvelles questions et répondre aux anciennes à la fois pour nous donner envie de poursuivre au plus vite la lecture et à la fois pour nous satisfaire avec une histoire ficelée d’une main de maître. yall i went through it avec mes baltimore😭 c’est drôle touchant choquant mignon arghhhhh je suis triste de l’avoir fini j’avais hâte de savoir comment ça se terminait mais je voulais pas terminer ma lecture pour ça c’est pas juste😔💔 je crois que ce tome est pas le préféré des tous parce qu’il est moins policier, mais pour ma part j’ai trouvé que ça apportait un équilibre plus que bienvenu. est ce que c’est un sacrilège de dire que je l’ai presque autant trouvé bon que harry quebert?🤭
en bref gros coup de coeur je pense que je vais pas en revenir avant plusieurs jours ouvrables………….
February 10, 2018
ΟΥΑΟΥ...ΚΑΤΑΠΛΗΚΤΙΚΟ...ΕΞΑΙΡΕΤΙΚΟ!!!
Και τώρα που τελειώσαμε με τα κλισέ, πάμε σε μια κάπως μεγαλύτερη ανάλυση!
Το βιβλίο των Μπάλτιμορ είναι ένα βιβλίο που το είχα βάλει στο μάτι εδώ και περίπου δύο χρόνια, από τότε που διάβασα και αγάπησα το "Η αλήθεια για την υπόθεση Χαρρυ Κέμπερτ"! Τελικά ήρθε στα χέρια μου σαν δώρο γενεθλίων!
Λοιπόν, είναι ένα βιβλίο, που παρόλο που από την περίληψη φαίνεται βαρετό, καταφέρνει να σε αρπάξει από τον λαιμό από τις πρώτες κιόλας σελίδες και σε κάνει να μη θέλεις να το αφήσεις από τα χέρια σου! Σε αυτό παίζει ρόλο η αφηγηματική δεινότητα του συγγραφέα, η οποία για ακόμη μια φορά εντυπωσιάζει! Η αφήγηση γίνεται σε πρώτο πρόσωπο με γραφή που ρέει και ο συγγραφέας καταφέρνει να μας κρατάει το ενδιαφέρον αμείωτο από την πρώτη μέχρι την τελευταία σελίδα! Εκτός από την πλοκή, ο συγγραφέας έχει σκιαγραφήσει εξαιρετικά τους ήρωες του και καταφέρνει να βάλει τον αναγνώστη μεσα στην ιστορία του. Φτάνεις σε σημείο να δεθείς τόσο μαζί τους, που νιώθεις τους φόβους, τις αγωνίες, τις χαρές και τις λύπες τους!
Ένα βιβλίο συγκινητικό, που σε βάζει σε σκέψεις και σε κάνει να αναλογιστείς ότι πολλά πράγματα δεν είναι έτσι όπως φαίνονται!
ΠΡΟΣΟΧΗ : ΔΙΑΒΑΖΕΤΑΙ ΑΠΝΕΥΣΤΙ!
Βαθμολογία 10/10
Και τώρα που τελειώσαμε με τα κλισέ, πάμε σε μια κάπως μεγαλύτερη ανάλυση!
Το βιβλίο των Μπάλτιμορ είναι ένα βιβλίο που το είχα βάλει στο μάτι εδώ και περίπου δύο χρόνια, από τότε που διάβασα και αγάπησα το "Η αλήθεια για την υπόθεση Χαρρυ Κέμπερτ"! Τελικά ήρθε στα χέρια μου σαν δώρο γενεθλίων!
Λοιπόν, είναι ένα βιβλίο, που παρόλο που από την περίληψη φαίνεται βαρετό, καταφέρνει να σε αρπάξει από τον λαιμό από τις πρώτες κιόλας σελίδες και σε κάνει να μη θέλεις να το αφήσεις από τα χέρια σου! Σε αυτό παίζει ρόλο η αφηγηματική δεινότητα του συγγραφέα, η οποία για ακόμη μια φορά εντυπωσιάζει! Η αφήγηση γίνεται σε πρώτο πρόσωπο με γραφή που ρέει και ο συγγραφέας καταφέρνει να μας κρατάει το ενδιαφέρον αμείωτο από την πρώτη μέχρι την τελευταία σελίδα! Εκτός από την πλοκή, ο συγγραφέας έχει σκιαγραφήσει εξαιρετικά τους ήρωες του και καταφέρνει να βάλει τον αναγνώστη μεσα στην ιστορία του. Φτάνεις σε σημείο να δεθείς τόσο μαζί τους, που νιώθεις τους φόβους, τις αγωνίες, τις χαρές και τις λύπες τους!
Ένα βιβλίο συγκινητικό, που σε βάζει σε σκέψεις και σε κάνει να αναλογιστείς ότι πολλά πράγματα δεν είναι έτσι όπως φαίνονται!
ΠΡΟΣΟΧΗ : ΔΙΑΒΑΖΕΤΑΙ ΑΠΝΕΥΣΤΙ!
Βαθμολογία 10/10
December 23, 2024
După cartea asta e clar, îmi place Joël Dicker
Cartea surprinde dinamica unei familii extinse și se concentrează pe relația a 3 verișori; ne poartă prin toată viața lor și construiește caractere foarte interesante, povestește evenimente cu impact asupra familiei și permite să vedem cum unele detalii par complet diferite privite de la mai multe vârste.
N-am putut să mă despind de ea. Se axează foarte mult pe dezvoltarea personajelor dar nu duce lipsă de acțiune și suspans.
Cartea surprinde dinamica unei familii extinse și se concentrează pe relația a 3 verișori; ne poartă prin toată viața lor și construiește caractere foarte interesante, povestește evenimente cu impact asupra familiei și permite să vedem cum unele detalii par complet diferite privite de la mai multe vârste.
N-am putut să mă despind de ea. Se axează foarte mult pe dezvoltarea personajelor dar nu duce lipsă de acțiune și suspans.
January 1, 2023
3,5/5⭐
Dentro de la "trilogía" de Marcus Goldman este es el libro que más se sale del perfil de la saga donde los otros dos versan sobre la investigación policial de los asesinatos, este va sobre la historia familiar de los Goldman de Baltimore que lo marcó para siempre y que hizo que se lanzase a ser escritor.
Es una historia de desarrollo lento en acción pero profundo en los sentimientos de los personajes que les llevan finalmente a lo que en el libro denomina el "Drama".
Es la historia de cómo surge la necesidad de escribir el libro que le permitirá reconciliarse con su propio pasado para seguir su camino y que a la vez le permitirá restaurar a la familia a la que adoró.
Magistralmente desde el presente en 2012 va relatando los momentos pasados en cinco partes según diferentes períodos en el tiempo marcados por un hecho concreto.
Es una novela entrañable que nos da mayor entidad y profundidad al personaje enlace y central de la "trilogía", Marcus, el escritor.
Y señalo "trilogía" porque, como al autor le gusta hacernos pequeños "spoilers" o "enlaces" en sus relatos, en esta vuelve a mencionar la novela escrita por Marcus titulada "Con G de Goldstein" (sería la primera antes de Harry Quebert e iría sobre sus primos y la banda, publicada según la historia en 2006) y en el de Alaska Sanders nos deja el input de un caso sin resolver que le da el inspector Gahalowood "Caso Gaby Robinson"...así que quién sabe...tal vez tengamos más Marcus Goldman....y a mí me gustaría mucho 🥰
Dentro de la "trilogía" de Marcus Goldman este es el libro que más se sale del perfil de la saga donde los otros dos versan sobre la investigación policial de los asesinatos, este va sobre la historia familiar de los Goldman de Baltimore que lo marcó para siempre y que hizo que se lanzase a ser escritor.
Es una historia de desarrollo lento en acción pero profundo en los sentimientos de los personajes que les llevan finalmente a lo que en el libro denomina el "Drama".
Es la historia de cómo surge la necesidad de escribir el libro que le permitirá reconciliarse con su propio pasado para seguir su camino y que a la vez le permitirá restaurar a la familia a la que adoró.
Magistralmente desde el presente en 2012 va relatando los momentos pasados en cinco partes según diferentes períodos en el tiempo marcados por un hecho concreto.
Es una novela entrañable que nos da mayor entidad y profundidad al personaje enlace y central de la "trilogía", Marcus, el escritor.
Y señalo "trilogía" porque, como al autor le gusta hacernos pequeños "spoilers" o "enlaces" en sus relatos, en esta vuelve a mencionar la novela escrita por Marcus titulada "Con G de Goldstein" (sería la primera antes de Harry Quebert e iría sobre sus primos y la banda, publicada según la historia en 2006) y en el de Alaska Sanders nos deja el input de un caso sin resolver que le da el inspector Gahalowood "Caso Gaby Robinson"...así que quién sabe...tal vez tengamos más Marcus Goldman....y a mí me gustaría mucho 🥰
March 29, 2023
Bueno ¡es un turn page book ! Lleno de intrigas que te mantienen súper enganchado .
Un tanto predecible, pero es que el escritor tiene una narrativa atrapante!
Con personajes muy bien definidos y esos saltos en el tiempo que me encantan .
Le quitamos una Estrella porque es innecesariamente largo .
Un tanto predecible, pero es que el escritor tiene una narrativa atrapante!
Con personajes muy bien definidos y esos saltos en el tiempo que me encantan .
Le quitamos una Estrella porque es innecesariamente largo .
June 29, 2016
Дойде моментът да обоснова своето разочарование от втората книга на Жоел Дикер. Хората, с които редовно си говорим за четене, знаят че аз съм луд фен на първия му роман "Истината за случая Хари Куебърт" и то до такава степен, че съм влизала в не един и два спора защо този роман е добър и трябва да се прочете. Съвсем нормално е след подобен дебют очакванията да са вдигнати високо.
Уви реалността се оказа съвсем друга. "Книга за Балтиморови" буквално ме зашемети още от първите страници с изключително слаб стил - еднообразни фрази, изтъркани мъдрости, поватаряемост на определени конструкции до втръсване. Давам само един пример, за да не съм голословна - главните герои са се провинили в училище, викат родители им при директора и им обясняват ситуацията. Реакцията им цитирам дословно:
"- Да не сте се побъркали? - смъмри ги треньорът Бендам.
- Да не сте се побъркали? - повториха в един глас семейство Невил.
- Да не сте се побъркали? - подхванаха и чичо Соул и леля Анита."
Продължаваме нататък с историята - изключително предвидима, нямаше и най-малка изненада в това, кой кого ще прецака и защо. Образите - плоски, двуизмерни, недоразвити по никакъв начин. Любовните сцени, ако изобщо могат да бъдат наречени така, бяха претупани буквално в 2 до 3 изречения и то какви. Няма да цитирам, че става страшно.
За психологизъм също няма как да говорим. Отново ще дам само един пример, защото иначе рискувам този отзив да се разтегли страховито. Без да спойлвам прекалено само споменавам, че един от главните герои е жертва на тормоз в училище и то не просто някой юмрук или обидна дума, а жесток терор, след който психиката му би трябвало да е пречупена завинаги или поне да понесе много тежки последствия, които ще хвърлят сянка над целия му живот. Вместо това имаме претупване и на този момент и веднага щом се мести в друго училище героят магически забравя на какво е бил подложен или поне никакви негови теразния на тази тема не ни биват описани. Слабо, много слабо.
Накрая - мотивацията на героите. Уж чудесни хора, а всъщност всичко, което ги движи от първата до последната страница е обикновена завист и неутолим стремеж да бъдат по-добри от...ами от най-близките си. За да опишеш добре подобен род герои се изисква майсторство, което Дикер за съжаление не притежава. А и в края на книгата някакси се опитва да ни убеди, че въпреки тези жалки стремежи, героите всъщност много се обичат, че са част от неразрушима банда.
Като цяло "Книга за Балтиморови" би могла да се чете като лятно четиво с възможно най-занижени очаквания. За мен лично тя е най-голямото литературно разочарование за тази година до момента.
Уви реалността се оказа съвсем друга. "Книга за Балтиморови" буквално ме зашемети още от първите страници с изключително слаб стил - еднообразни фрази, изтъркани мъдрости, поватаряемост на определени конструкции до втръсване. Давам само един пример, за да не съм голословна - главните герои са се провинили в училище, викат родители им при директора и им обясняват ситуацията. Реакцията им цитирам дословно:
"- Да не сте се побъркали? - смъмри ги треньорът Бендам.
- Да не сте се побъркали? - повториха в един глас семейство Невил.
- Да не сте се побъркали? - подхванаха и чичо Соул и леля Анита."
Продължаваме нататък с историята - изключително предвидима, нямаше и най-малка изненада в това, кой кого ще прецака и защо. Образите - плоски, двуизмерни, недоразвити по никакъв начин. Любовните сцени, ако изобщо могат да бъдат наречени така, бяха претупани буквално в 2 до 3 изречения и то какви. Няма да цитирам, че става страшно.
За психологизъм също няма как да говорим. Отново ще дам само един пример, защото иначе рискувам този отзив да се разтегли страховито. Без да спойлвам прекалено само споменавам, че един от главните герои е жертва на тормоз в училище и то не просто някой юмрук или обидна дума, а жесток терор, след който психиката му би трябвало да е пречупена завинаги или поне да понесе много тежки последствия, които ще хвърлят сянка над целия му живот. Вместо това имаме претупване и на този момент и веднага щом се мести в друго училище героят магически забравя на какво е бил подложен или поне никакви негови теразния на тази тема не ни биват описани. Слабо, много слабо.
Накрая - мотивацията на героите. Уж чудесни хора, а всъщност всичко, което ги движи от първата до последната страница е обикновена завист и неутолим стремеж да бъдат по-добри от...ами от най-близките си. За да опишеш добре подобен род герои се изисква майсторство, което Дикер за съжаление не притежава. А и в края на книгата някакси се опитва да ни убеди, че въпреки тези жалки стремежи, героите всъщност много се обичат, че са част от неразрушима банда.
Като цяло "Книга за Балтиморови" би могла да се чете като лятно четиво с възможно най-занижени очаквания. За мен лично тя е най-голямото литературно разочарование за тази година до момента.
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