18 reviews
- imogensara_smith
- Jan 19, 2008
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The story of "Lady Windemere's Fan" is a touching portrait of repression and hypocrisy in England during the Victorian era. The pivotal character in the movie is the charming, mysterious wise and beautiful middle-age woman played by Madeleine Carroll, who returns to the conservative upper-class milieu that had banished and rejected her decades ago. She manages to come to terms with the most delicate and unresolved aspects of her past, but she has to pay a very high price for that. Nevertheless, she is a survivor and in her eighties she will be able to make a balance and reflect on that crucial episode of her past. Madeleine Carroll and George Sanders are perfectly cast as the middle-age charmers and schemers, and also sound believable as the frail but smart octogenarian survivors, and deliver great performances on the hands of Preminger, who is able to maintain a good rhythm and to capture what we might figure is the Victorian society's aristocratic milieu of gossips and intrigues. I also enjoyed Martita Hunt as a typical upper-class eccentric, manipulative and witty matron; and thought that both Richard Greene and Jeanne Crain were OK as the younger Windemere couple. I think that this underrated little gem deserves a wider distribution. I am very lucky that in Spain the DVD of "The Fan" has been released in September 2007.
- PamelaShort
- Nov 26, 2013
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I HAVE TO seriously differ with the same review of this gem of a film. Agreed that George Sanders is wonderful (as usual) and that the bookends of the film are not necessary though rather charming, but the film is a jewel, all the performances are very good and MADELEINE CARROLL in her last film ever is totally wonderful and EXQUISITE.. Jeanne Crain does a credible job playing a British aristocrat, accent and all and Martita Hunt as always steals every scene she is in. The sets and costumes are stunning, and it is a pity it was not filmed in color. Otto Preminger is a strange choice as a director for this vehicle but he is always fascinating, even his misfires and this certainly is NOT one of them.A must see believe me.....
- jonathan_lippman
- May 9, 2009
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Preferably before you watch this production I would urge all users to see what in my opinion is the definitive professional performance of this famous 1892 Wilde play which was televised in 1985 and which starred: Helena Little as Lady W., Tim Woodward as Lord W., Stephanie Turner as Mrs Erlynne, Kenneth Cranham as Lord Darlington and Sara Kestelman as the Duchess of Berwick.Yes all the famous quotes are there in this film:1."I can resist everything except temptation" 2."We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars"3."Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"4."What's a cynic?"- "A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing".
Having played Lord Henry Wooton (Oscar's alter ego in "The Picture of Dorian Gray"(1946) George Sanders again assumes this mantle of giving Oscar's aphorisms another tryout playing Lord Darlington.Unless American actors are skilled at British accents (e.g.Renee Zellweger, Gwyneth Paltrow etc.), I find they grate on me as does Jeanne Crain as Lady W.Seeing Richard Greene (Robin Hood from the famous UK 1950s TV series) playing Lord W.gave me a mild shock but Martita Hunt as the Duchess of Berwick was a pleasant surprise.
I don't like Hollywood versions of classic plays as it tends to add a superficial gloss on original British productions and add lines which are not consonant with the original text.I nevertheless enjoyed this film shown in its entirety on www.youtube.com and awarded it 6/10 as I was thrilled to see Madeleine Carroll playing Mrs Erlynne who I have admired since she played the female lead in Hitchcock's "The 39 Steps" (1935).
Having played Lord Henry Wooton (Oscar's alter ego in "The Picture of Dorian Gray"(1946) George Sanders again assumes this mantle of giving Oscar's aphorisms another tryout playing Lord Darlington.Unless American actors are skilled at British accents (e.g.Renee Zellweger, Gwyneth Paltrow etc.), I find they grate on me as does Jeanne Crain as Lady W.Seeing Richard Greene (Robin Hood from the famous UK 1950s TV series) playing Lord W.gave me a mild shock but Martita Hunt as the Duchess of Berwick was a pleasant surprise.
I don't like Hollywood versions of classic plays as it tends to add a superficial gloss on original British productions and add lines which are not consonant with the original text.I nevertheless enjoyed this film shown in its entirety on www.youtube.com and awarded it 6/10 as I was thrilled to see Madeleine Carroll playing Mrs Erlynne who I have admired since she played the female lead in Hitchcock's "The 39 Steps" (1935).
- howardmorley
- Sep 9, 2015
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- JohnHowardReid
- Jun 13, 2016
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"The Fan" is a film based very loosely on a story by Oscar Wilde. At first, I was very disappointed in the film...as it's VERY slow. But as I watched, it got better and better. Stick with this one...its payoff is pretty good.
The film begins at the present time. A very elderly lady is attending an auction and she sees something of hers, a very expensive fan, being sold without her permission. The auctioneer withdraws the item and tells her to get some proof it is hers...which is a problem as she's been living abroad and most everyone who knew her in London is dead! Then, she remembers that Lord Darlington (George Sanders) knew her and will be able to vouch for her and the fan. The rest of the story is a flashback to many years ago...and the story of how she got the fan takes a VERY long time!
The reason I enjoyed this film is its final third. The first two thirds is just okay...but all the confusion and unanswered questions are taken care of in the final portion. And, because of that, it's well worth seeing...especially with some lovely acting and a good, though longwinded, script.
The film begins at the present time. A very elderly lady is attending an auction and she sees something of hers, a very expensive fan, being sold without her permission. The auctioneer withdraws the item and tells her to get some proof it is hers...which is a problem as she's been living abroad and most everyone who knew her in London is dead! Then, she remembers that Lord Darlington (George Sanders) knew her and will be able to vouch for her and the fan. The rest of the story is a flashback to many years ago...and the story of how she got the fan takes a VERY long time!
The reason I enjoyed this film is its final third. The first two thirds is just okay...but all the confusion and unanswered questions are taken care of in the final portion. And, because of that, it's well worth seeing...especially with some lovely acting and a good, though longwinded, script.
- planktonrules
- Sep 12, 2023
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Based on an Oscar Wilde,a delightful bittersweet period piece which is some kind of reductio ad aburdum that conjugal love can be the way to happiness and that you must not throw it all away.
A long flashback,where a fan sold in auction becomes the Madeleine de Proust which revives memories of long ago,when the two people who meet again after all those years return to a time when they were young and handsome.It's also a good lesson in teaching us that things are not necessarily what they seem.It is also a scathing attack on this society of snubs ,those privileged classes whose favorite pastime is putting their fellow men (and women) down.
A long flashback,where a fan sold in auction becomes the Madeleine de Proust which revives memories of long ago,when the two people who meet again after all those years return to a time when they were young and handsome.It's also a good lesson in teaching us that things are not necessarily what they seem.It is also a scathing attack on this society of snubs ,those privileged classes whose favorite pastime is putting their fellow men (and women) down.
- dbdumonteil
- Nov 20, 2007
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Truncating the title and adding a little addendum of his own to the story director Otto Preminger offer's up a well polished version of Oscar Wilde's, Lady Windermere's Fan. A devastating Victorian satire in its day Preminger updates the opening to post war London with two of the now doddering principals drawn once again together over the fan re-kindling memories of when it first played such an important role in their lives.
At an auction selling objects from bombed buildings Lady Erlynne (Madeline Carroll) attempts to reclaim a fan given her decades earlier. The auctioneer is reluctant to part with it on her say so unless she can find a witness. She goes and looks up "cad from the past" Lord Darlington (George Sanders) to vouch for her and after an initial re-buff the two recall the bell époque together and how his deviousness almost ended a marriage while her sacrifice saved it.
Preminger seamlessly injects the war as a catalyst to springboard the play as well as add a sly touch that reveals itself comically at the end. With his ability to speak film language as well as anyone The Fan flows with long takes and fine performances by the principals Carroll, Jean Crain, Richard Greene and George Sanders who seemed born to play Wilde characters.
The Fan is one well crafted work that Preminger elevates by eschewing the easy task of filming a classic stage satire and adding a stark but unobtrusive contemporary sub plot that not only advances the storyline but in the true spirit of Wilde pays homage to his timeless words.
At an auction selling objects from bombed buildings Lady Erlynne (Madeline Carroll) attempts to reclaim a fan given her decades earlier. The auctioneer is reluctant to part with it on her say so unless she can find a witness. She goes and looks up "cad from the past" Lord Darlington (George Sanders) to vouch for her and after an initial re-buff the two recall the bell époque together and how his deviousness almost ended a marriage while her sacrifice saved it.
Preminger seamlessly injects the war as a catalyst to springboard the play as well as add a sly touch that reveals itself comically at the end. With his ability to speak film language as well as anyone The Fan flows with long takes and fine performances by the principals Carroll, Jean Crain, Richard Greene and George Sanders who seemed born to play Wilde characters.
The Fan is one well crafted work that Preminger elevates by eschewing the easy task of filming a classic stage satire and adding a stark but unobtrusive contemporary sub plot that not only advances the storyline but in the true spirit of Wilde pays homage to his timeless words.
- vincentlynch-moonoi
- Aug 27, 2013
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Oscar Wilde's comedy of manners, perhaps the wittiest play ever written, is all but wrecked at the hands of a second-rate cast. Sanders is, as one would expect, casually, indolently brilliant in the role of Lord Darlington, but the rest of the cast makes the entire procedure a waste of time. Jean Crain attempts a stage accent in alternate sentences and the other members of the cast seem to believe this is a melodrama and not a comedy; indeed, the entire production has bookends that reduce it to tragedy -- doubtless the Hays office insisted. Preminger's direction seems to lie mostly in making sure that there are plenty of servants about and even the music seems banal. Stick with the visually perfect silent farce as directed by Lubitsch or even the 2004 screen version with Helen Hunt as Mrs. Erlynne; or try reading the play for the pleasure of the words. But skip this version.
Oscar Wilde shines through all the way with his remarkable wit and knowledge of human nature, here especially about women. Dorothy Parker adding to it makes it a double treat. Here you find Oscar Wilde amazingly updated to after the second world war with its rationing and bombed ruins of London, adding an extra spice of melancholy and sadness to the glittering wit and intrigue of fin de siècle refinement. All the actors are outstanding, Otto Preminger bringing out the best of them all, not only George Sanders and Madeleine Carroll in double performances as both young and old; but also Jeanne Crain and Richard Greene are exactly adapted to their involuntary parts of having to feign their demeanour and treading uncertainly on a precarious path of extreme human delicacy. You are led to believe the worst of Madeleine Carroll at first, and indeed she is a fallen lady, but she has learned something of it and conveys the wisdom of her experience in a wondrous way according to the best of Oscar Wilde's sharp human studies. This is a film for wits to relish, and Otto Preminger surprises once again with delivering something entirely new even to his own experience.
Save for the casting of Jeanne Crain who was too white bread and too American to be a proper English lady, this version of Lady Windermere's Fan this is a decent enough production. It could also have used the lighter touch of Ernest Lubitsch instead of Otto Preminger.
Simply entitled The Fan Oscar Wilde's plot is told in flashback by two of the surviving principals of the story. Madeleine Carroll as the adventuress Mrs. Erlynne and the cynical Lord Darlington played by the always cynical George Sanders. Both have survived into the post World War II era in their dotage and it takes a while for Sanders to realize who is this old woman pursuing him.
In her younger days Mrs. Erlynne was quite the adventuress looking to break into London society by whatever means. Through a little clever maneuvering she's got Richard Greene as Lord Windermere running interference for her in her object to get to Hugh Dempster and his title. Of course Jeanne Crain thinks the man she thought was as in love with her as she with him is now two timing him. All their little manoeuvrings are recorded with appropriate comments by Sanders who is Wilde himself.
But Carroll has her reasons for saving Crain from making a fool of herself at the cost of Carroll's own plans for advancement.
Watching this I thought Gene Tierney might have carried it off and she was the original choice for the title role. The one who could have done it best was Vivien Leigh. I can't believe Darryl Zanuck didn't try to get her back in America for the role.
Greene is properly dashing as the Victorian Lord, but Sanders was a man born to serve up Oscar Wilde's lines with relish. Sad that the lead was weak or this might have been a classic film.
Simply entitled The Fan Oscar Wilde's plot is told in flashback by two of the surviving principals of the story. Madeleine Carroll as the adventuress Mrs. Erlynne and the cynical Lord Darlington played by the always cynical George Sanders. Both have survived into the post World War II era in their dotage and it takes a while for Sanders to realize who is this old woman pursuing him.
In her younger days Mrs. Erlynne was quite the adventuress looking to break into London society by whatever means. Through a little clever maneuvering she's got Richard Greene as Lord Windermere running interference for her in her object to get to Hugh Dempster and his title. Of course Jeanne Crain thinks the man she thought was as in love with her as she with him is now two timing him. All their little manoeuvrings are recorded with appropriate comments by Sanders who is Wilde himself.
But Carroll has her reasons for saving Crain from making a fool of herself at the cost of Carroll's own plans for advancement.
Watching this I thought Gene Tierney might have carried it off and she was the original choice for the title role. The one who could have done it best was Vivien Leigh. I can't believe Darryl Zanuck didn't try to get her back in America for the role.
Greene is properly dashing as the Victorian Lord, but Sanders was a man born to serve up Oscar Wilde's lines with relish. Sad that the lead was weak or this might have been a classic film.
- bkoganbing
- Dec 24, 2015
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Oscar Wilde's play "Lady Windermere's Fan" isn't one of his best pieces of work, and this film, shortened to "The Fan," isn't the best adaptation of it and has the unfortunate position of having been made in between two better-regarded filmed versions of two of Wilde's better-regarded masterpieces, the 1945 "The Picture of Dorian Gray" based on the author's only novel and the 1952 "The Importance of Being Earnest" based on his most celebrated play. The 1945 film particularly is a beautiful piece of art and a near-perfect adaptation, as is Ernst Lubitsch's 1925 silent version of "Lady Windermere's Fan."
Despite the loss of Wilde's words, including the famous epigrams, Lubitsch's film retains the spirit of the playwright's wit visually. It even improves upon it, as the play is rather uneven in its holding up Victorian-age high society for ridicule while ultimately becoming itself rather VIctorian in its moralistic resolution of motherhood. A similar fault befalls this 1949 reworking. Its added present-day framing narrative, where Mrs. Erlynne and Lord Darlington, rather literally, take a walk down memory lane places Wilde's story as a quaint relic, but one filled with nostalgia, of better times before the country was ravished by war. This takes the satirical bite out of the comedy of manners, which, otherwise, the film follows rather faithfully at first--before its resolution falters even more than the original play into melodramatics. The film's latter acts are full of characters either yelling at each other or acting self-righteously, while the musical score is turned up to bombastic levels. Compare this to how Lubitsch's film managed to retain its light tone even while managing a more poignant scene of self-sacrifice.
Like the 1925 version, as well as the 1916 one before it, "The Fan" "opens up" the play, which helps prevent it from appearing stagy, even though it looks like a B-picture in comparison to the 1945 prestige production "The Picture of Dorian Gray" or to Lubitsch's version, with the director's characteristic insistence upon grand sets, including absurdly gigantic doors. I do like one shot in "The Fan," in particular, though, which happens when the narration changes to Lord Darlington's memory: the camera moves from the present to the past as seen through a window. Besides the flashback structure, the remembered past begins before where the play started (as do the other film versions), and there are other added scenes of Mrs. Erlynne's interactions with the male characters and a fencing match, which serves to stage her scandalous effect on society. Much of this is very similar to the 1925 film despite being slightly altered. The fencing match, for instance, replaces a similarly-purposed scene at the horse track in the 1925 version, which itself was a bit of a reworking of a dog-show scene in the 1916 one. I'm certainly not opposed to "The Fan" adapting earlier filmed versions as well as the play, but I don't think it does a very good job of it. The horse-track scene is impressively constructed in Lubitsch's film, with its series of looks and mocked gossiping underpinning a narrative based on dramatic irony and misconceptions. The fencing scene here, by contrast, is quite dull.
The acting is OK, I suppose, but the problem is that Wilde's characters were never much developed; originally, they come off as mouthpieces for the author's aphorisms, as variously stated by several different persons. Besides eliminating Wilde's words, the 1925 version helps to alleviate this with Irene Rich's Mrs. Erlynne, who follows in the tradition of the cinematic vamp, or flapper, type, as the play was updated to the then-modern day. Not so here. Even George Sanders, who is my favorite screen version of Lord Henry from Wilde's novel, cannot save Lord Darlington, who always seems to me to be quite a bore of a cad. Martina Hunt is rather surprisingly good in the more minor role of the Duchess, though, as the film gets some amusement out of her relationship with her obedient daughter, Agatha.
Despite the loss of Wilde's words, including the famous epigrams, Lubitsch's film retains the spirit of the playwright's wit visually. It even improves upon it, as the play is rather uneven in its holding up Victorian-age high society for ridicule while ultimately becoming itself rather VIctorian in its moralistic resolution of motherhood. A similar fault befalls this 1949 reworking. Its added present-day framing narrative, where Mrs. Erlynne and Lord Darlington, rather literally, take a walk down memory lane places Wilde's story as a quaint relic, but one filled with nostalgia, of better times before the country was ravished by war. This takes the satirical bite out of the comedy of manners, which, otherwise, the film follows rather faithfully at first--before its resolution falters even more than the original play into melodramatics. The film's latter acts are full of characters either yelling at each other or acting self-righteously, while the musical score is turned up to bombastic levels. Compare this to how Lubitsch's film managed to retain its light tone even while managing a more poignant scene of self-sacrifice.
Like the 1925 version, as well as the 1916 one before it, "The Fan" "opens up" the play, which helps prevent it from appearing stagy, even though it looks like a B-picture in comparison to the 1945 prestige production "The Picture of Dorian Gray" or to Lubitsch's version, with the director's characteristic insistence upon grand sets, including absurdly gigantic doors. I do like one shot in "The Fan," in particular, though, which happens when the narration changes to Lord Darlington's memory: the camera moves from the present to the past as seen through a window. Besides the flashback structure, the remembered past begins before where the play started (as do the other film versions), and there are other added scenes of Mrs. Erlynne's interactions with the male characters and a fencing match, which serves to stage her scandalous effect on society. Much of this is very similar to the 1925 film despite being slightly altered. The fencing match, for instance, replaces a similarly-purposed scene at the horse track in the 1925 version, which itself was a bit of a reworking of a dog-show scene in the 1916 one. I'm certainly not opposed to "The Fan" adapting earlier filmed versions as well as the play, but I don't think it does a very good job of it. The horse-track scene is impressively constructed in Lubitsch's film, with its series of looks and mocked gossiping underpinning a narrative based on dramatic irony and misconceptions. The fencing scene here, by contrast, is quite dull.
The acting is OK, I suppose, but the problem is that Wilde's characters were never much developed; originally, they come off as mouthpieces for the author's aphorisms, as variously stated by several different persons. Besides eliminating Wilde's words, the 1925 version helps to alleviate this with Irene Rich's Mrs. Erlynne, who follows in the tradition of the cinematic vamp, or flapper, type, as the play was updated to the then-modern day. Not so here. Even George Sanders, who is my favorite screen version of Lord Henry from Wilde's novel, cannot save Lord Darlington, who always seems to me to be quite a bore of a cad. Martina Hunt is rather surprisingly good in the more minor role of the Duchess, though, as the film gets some amusement out of her relationship with her obedient daughter, Agatha.
- Cineanalyst
- Sep 14, 2018
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- MissSimonetta
- Sep 2, 2022
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Madeleine Carroll is way passed her best in this film and it comes towards the end of her career when she was making one film a year. I've never been a fan of Carroll even when she was in the Hitchcock films. And she added nothing to Cecil B. DeMille's 'North West Mounted Police'.
George Sanders plays an older man, but in flashback when he plays his usual self he is taken by Jeanne Crain. He was better in 'Samson and Delilah' which came out the same year.
I think Otto Preminger's handling of 'Laura' was far superior. This offering comes nowhere near the quality of 'Laura' in terms of story, performance, direction and production values.
George Sanders plays an older man, but in flashback when he plays his usual self he is taken by Jeanne Crain. He was better in 'Samson and Delilah' which came out the same year.
I think Otto Preminger's handling of 'Laura' was far superior. This offering comes nowhere near the quality of 'Laura' in terms of story, performance, direction and production values.
- marthawilcox1831
- Jul 31, 2014
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The (Lady Windermere's) Fan (1949) -
It took a long time to get in to the proper story of this one and I'm not sure that the prologue and epilogue, both set after WWII, were very necessary.
I have always found it odd in films when people reminisce about moments that they can't possibly have been present for. If the person wasn't involved then just don't film that scene, if it's integral to the story, don't show it as a remembrance.
I could only assume that they were trying to make this film longer.
I've yet to read or see the original Oscar Wilde play of this story in any other form, but I would hope to find it more fun and witty than this probably censored and staid version.
I'm not saying that it was bad, but it was obviously of its time and the values of that year, which hampered things in a way that was twee and a bit too wholesome without the inherent sauce that I have always found with the authors works before.
I also felt that there was another sub-story regarding the character of Cecil Graham (John Sutton) that must have been cut out, although it didn't effect the narrative as it stood in this film specifically. I was convinced that he was up to underhanded shenanigans, that might have been more fun to see than the aforementioned start and finish.
And I felt that Mrs Erlynne (Madeleine Carroll) could have been a representation of Oscar himself and his awkward, but outlandish position in society as a rogue and ultimately a pariah. A metaphor for his life perhaps.
It would obviously have been better for her character to have been honest with everyone from the start, although that would have taken the whole farce from the film, but I did have to feel sorry for Mrs Erlynne in the end.
Richard Greene in the role of Lord Arthur Windermere was very handsome in this one, so I could see why Lady Windermere (Jeanne Crain) might have had cause to be jealous and to assume that women everywhere were after him.
I couldn't have fallen for 'Shere Khan' (George Sanders playing Lord Darlington) with Richard's lovely face to go home to every night either.
Darlington was quite unpleasant and had no redeeming features that I could see, whereas Windermere was a charming and thoughtful man too.
As the film drew to an end, I must admit that I hadn't seen the stinger until it came, but I did like that twist and was once more reminded of the genius of the story's creator. I can't wait to read more of Wilde's work and to see more of them brought up to date on film.
479.81/1000.
It took a long time to get in to the proper story of this one and I'm not sure that the prologue and epilogue, both set after WWII, were very necessary.
I have always found it odd in films when people reminisce about moments that they can't possibly have been present for. If the person wasn't involved then just don't film that scene, if it's integral to the story, don't show it as a remembrance.
I could only assume that they were trying to make this film longer.
I've yet to read or see the original Oscar Wilde play of this story in any other form, but I would hope to find it more fun and witty than this probably censored and staid version.
I'm not saying that it was bad, but it was obviously of its time and the values of that year, which hampered things in a way that was twee and a bit too wholesome without the inherent sauce that I have always found with the authors works before.
I also felt that there was another sub-story regarding the character of Cecil Graham (John Sutton) that must have been cut out, although it didn't effect the narrative as it stood in this film specifically. I was convinced that he was up to underhanded shenanigans, that might have been more fun to see than the aforementioned start and finish.
And I felt that Mrs Erlynne (Madeleine Carroll) could have been a representation of Oscar himself and his awkward, but outlandish position in society as a rogue and ultimately a pariah. A metaphor for his life perhaps.
It would obviously have been better for her character to have been honest with everyone from the start, although that would have taken the whole farce from the film, but I did have to feel sorry for Mrs Erlynne in the end.
Richard Greene in the role of Lord Arthur Windermere was very handsome in this one, so I could see why Lady Windermere (Jeanne Crain) might have had cause to be jealous and to assume that women everywhere were after him.
I couldn't have fallen for 'Shere Khan' (George Sanders playing Lord Darlington) with Richard's lovely face to go home to every night either.
Darlington was quite unpleasant and had no redeeming features that I could see, whereas Windermere was a charming and thoughtful man too.
As the film drew to an end, I must admit that I hadn't seen the stinger until it came, but I did like that twist and was once more reminded of the genius of the story's creator. I can't wait to read more of Wilde's work and to see more of them brought up to date on film.
479.81/1000.
- adamjohns-42575
- Feb 20, 2023
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