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While I would never say that "The Rebel Set" is a good film, it isn't nearly as bad as you'd think. Some time back, the film was lampooned on "Mystery Science Theater 3000"--and because of this it has a reputation as a stinker. This is obvious when you see it has a score of 2.2.--which would indicate it is a 100% terrible film. But, unfortunately, it's not terrible and this rating seems unnecessarily harsh.
The film begins in a beatnik hangout run by a bearded Edward Platt ('Chief' from "Get Smart"). However, his appearing like an old beatnik is a disguise--he's really interested in masterminding a robbery. Using his business, he's learned which patrons are desperate and in need of money--and he approaches them to help him with his caper. Later, aboard a train, the film heats up, as Platt turns out to be a lot nastier than anyone in the gang anticipated. What exactly he does and how the film ends is something I'll leave up to you--it is mildly interesting.
The first half of the film is amazingly dull for a caper film. In fact, being on "MST 3000" you'd think the film was laughably bad, but it's only very slow and a bit amateurish. Fortunately, the second half is a lot better and I actually loved the final showdown. Not at all great but passable entertainment.
The film begins in a beatnik hangout run by a bearded Edward Platt ('Chief' from "Get Smart"). However, his appearing like an old beatnik is a disguise--he's really interested in masterminding a robbery. Using his business, he's learned which patrons are desperate and in need of money--and he approaches them to help him with his caper. Later, aboard a train, the film heats up, as Platt turns out to be a lot nastier than anyone in the gang anticipated. What exactly he does and how the film ends is something I'll leave up to you--it is mildly interesting.
The first half of the film is amazingly dull for a caper film. In fact, being on "MST 3000" you'd think the film was laughably bad, but it's only very slow and a bit amateurish. Fortunately, the second half is a lot better and I actually loved the final showdown. Not at all great but passable entertainment.
- planktonrules
- Oct 18, 2012
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I saw this film thanks to the cult show, Mystery Science 3000 where Joel and the gang riffed this caper movie and chances are that is where most people have viewed this film. It was not a super terrible film by any means, just plays out like a lot of other films, but only with worse acting and plot points. The film is titled rebel set, but there is not all that many rebels to be found here. I guess the caper is sort of rebellious, but not really. Though the film is bad I did feel for the main character who was a struggling writer and I wanted to see "Chief" get caught and get his in the end! The movie also moves at a fairly brisk pace as we have an introduction to the characters, we have the plan and then we have the caper and then we have murder on the not so orient express!
The story has a man who seems to run a nightclub where a bunch of beatniks hang out and read poetry and such. Also, three gentlemen frequent the establishment. A writer who is rather bad at his craft. A man who desperately wishes to get out of the shadow of his mother and a down on his luck actor who cannot land a job and whose wife is literally supporting the both of them. They are approached by the man who owns the club about a job that involves them robbing 1 million dollars from an armored car. So they hop a train and during a stopover in Chicago they set their plan in motion and once back on the train and seemingly successful things begin to unravel as greed begins to take over.
This made for a good episode of MST3K and it is rather funny. This film was named, "The Rebel Set" yet the characters resemble beatniks more than they do rebels. Then they riffed a film named "Beatniks" where the characters resembled rebels more so than they did beatniks! The short at the beginning of this one featuring a little boy lost at the fair was rather funny too.
So, this film is not that great, but it was not a super terrible film. I did pull for the guy who plays the Chief on Get Smart to get his in the end, but at the same time the film just seems like a mess and it totally breaks down at the end with a rather tepid chase scene that goes on for way too long and was probably added to simply pad the film. That being said, at least you could tell what was going on and had more of a plot than The Beatniks that featured rebels...
The story has a man who seems to run a nightclub where a bunch of beatniks hang out and read poetry and such. Also, three gentlemen frequent the establishment. A writer who is rather bad at his craft. A man who desperately wishes to get out of the shadow of his mother and a down on his luck actor who cannot land a job and whose wife is literally supporting the both of them. They are approached by the man who owns the club about a job that involves them robbing 1 million dollars from an armored car. So they hop a train and during a stopover in Chicago they set their plan in motion and once back on the train and seemingly successful things begin to unravel as greed begins to take over.
This made for a good episode of MST3K and it is rather funny. This film was named, "The Rebel Set" yet the characters resemble beatniks more than they do rebels. Then they riffed a film named "Beatniks" where the characters resembled rebels more so than they did beatniks! The short at the beginning of this one featuring a little boy lost at the fair was rather funny too.
So, this film is not that great, but it was not a super terrible film. I did pull for the guy who plays the Chief on Get Smart to get his in the end, but at the same time the film just seems like a mess and it totally breaks down at the end with a rather tepid chase scene that goes on for way too long and was probably added to simply pad the film. That being said, at least you could tell what was going on and had more of a plot than The Beatniks that featured rebels...
- BandSAboutMovies
- Mar 28, 2021
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Without mst3k, most people would never have watched these crappy movies again. Maybe people aren't happy that a bunch of puppets make fun of movies that they like, but at least it ensures that geeks (including me) everywhere will be entertained by classics like "The Creeping Terror" and "The Rebel Set" (which isn't that bad, I agree, but you really should lighten up) for years.
Yes, this is one movie I can actually watch without the mst3k filter. It starts out slowly but once they do the crime, it moves along pretty well. I like how the guy disguises himself as an evil priest. The on- foot chase at the end goes on forever though. Completely unnecessary.
Yes, this is one movie I can actually watch without the mst3k filter. It starts out slowly but once they do the crime, it moves along pretty well. I like how the guy disguises himself as an evil priest. The on- foot chase at the end goes on forever though. Completely unnecessary.
I saw this movie on MST3K also. It's a really, really bad movie. The plot is implausible and the acting is awful. The question is raised in the MST episode, "who is merritt stone?" because he seems to be the train conductor, but that's actually Gene Roth. Merritt Stone is Carol's dad in Earth Versus the Spider, and the king in "the magic sword". Gene Roth is the guy everyone *thought* was merritt stone.
- CelluloidRehab
- Mar 3, 2008
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The first half of this movie was absolutely boring with nothing going on. I was at least able to follow it on the second half of the movie. It was mostly stupid, because at this point you don't care about any of the characters and are too far gone to care about it. I really have no idea who that priest guy even was. I mean, he was probably a minor character before, but I didn't care to pay attention. I thought at first that this would be a movie about music. While that isn't a topic I'd want to see a movie about, it would certainly be better than this. At first, there's little going on at all and then there's too much going on.
I really wanted to see the movie synopsis here just so I could follow it. Yeah, I don't recall any characters' names. I also don't recall any actors' names. There's nothing unique about it. Was there some love story I was supposed to notice? It's pointless on all levels. *1/2
I really wanted to see the movie synopsis here just so I could follow it. Yeah, I don't recall any characters' names. I also don't recall any actors' names. There's nothing unique about it. Was there some love story I was supposed to notice? It's pointless on all levels. *1/2
- ericstevenson
- Jun 16, 2016
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This film essentially begins in Los Angeles with a man named "John Mapes" (Gregg Palmer) who is struggling to become an actor. Needless to say, the fact that he has no other job has put a great strain on his marriage to his wife "Jeanne" (Kathleen Crowley) who has had some difficulty trying to pay the bills. Then one day he is approached by a con-artist named "Sidney Horner" (Ned Glass) who offers a way out of his financial difficulties if he attends a meeting with a nightclub owner by the name of "Mr. Tucker" (Edward Platt). Also in attendance are two other men by the names of "George Leland" (Don Sullivan) and "Ray Miller" (John Lupton) who are equally in need of money. That said, when Mr. Tucker lays out a plan to rob an armored car worth $1 million they reluctantly agree to participate. What they don't realize, however, is that Mr. Tucker hasn't told them the full truth about everything. Now rather than reveal any more I will just say that this was a tame crime-drama for the most part which consisted of an all-too-familiar plot wrapped around a rather unique beatnik setting. To that extent, although the film initially started out rather well, it was limited by the mediocre acting and an exceedingly dull ending and for that reason I have rated it accordingly. Slightly below average.
I enjoyed this film. It has all the elements for an awesome Noir film. The Beatnik music scene was a real treat man. Edward Platt played Mr. Tucker very well. This was a much different role than his role as The Chief on the TV series Get Smart.
- contactus-22977
- Aug 28, 2018
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I went in with extremely low expectations, and anticipating many ludicrous attempts to exploit the notoriety of the beat movement. What I got instead was a decent heist flick, a villain who surprises, and even a bit of character development.
Nothing here about 'rebels' or beatniks to speak of, though the soundtrack features some really decent flute and percussion music early on to set the scene. I was kept interested all the way through and was rewarded with a pretty good chase sequence to finish things off.
A low production value film that definitely transcends its budget!
Nothing here about 'rebels' or beatniks to speak of, though the soundtrack features some really decent flute and percussion music early on to set the scene. I was kept interested all the way through and was rewarded with a pretty good chase sequence to finish things off.
A low production value film that definitely transcends its budget!
Karl Struss did the excellent photography on this film. The dark shadows and low angles add quite a bit of tension to the situation. I love the way the dark forces of greed take hold of three goof-ball beatniks(Sullivan, Lupton, and Palmer) who can't pay their coffee house bill. Anyone who has studied Faust would recognize Tucker (Ed Platt) as a Dr. Faustus-like character, and Sydney(Ned Glass) as his assistant like Mephistoles. They convince the three beatniks to sell their souls for $200,000 each if they participate in an armored car robbery. The bold physical chase scene at the railroad tracks and the stunt work involved was really top notch. It really grabs me every time I see Johnny try to confess his part in the robbery to the detective, but the gumshoe really thinks he did the murder, so he takes a chair, breaks a train window and leaps out. It's possible this mimicked "Rebel" James Dean's movie, East of Eden, where virtuous Aaron (Richard Davalos) is so heartbroken and drunk on a troop train that he breaks through the window with his head, while Cal (Dean), Abra and her father watch, horrified. Dean was dead three years when Rebel Set was filmed.
- hollywoodshack
- Dec 23, 2010
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Edward Platt - before he was the boss on Get Smart. I love the fashion, interior decoration and cinematography. The acting is kinda bad, but it's fun to watch B Hollywood backlots make pale imitations of the real beatnik movement. And cash in on the Beat Generation fame.
A nice entertaining suspenseful quirky '50s B-movie with a straight-forward no-frills script and dialogue. I liked this flick each of the two times I saw it, years apart.
Stand-outs are: Edward Platt as an eccentric mastermind crook, Kathleen Crowley: you can feel her pain and disappointment; and Gregg Palmer, torn between love and greed.
The drawback is that the movie was deceptively packaged as a "beatnik/rebel" movie-which, of course, it was not about (except for a few semi-coffeehouse scenes).
Stand-outs are: Edward Platt as an eccentric mastermind crook, Kathleen Crowley: you can feel her pain and disappointment; and Gregg Palmer, torn between love and greed.
The drawback is that the movie was deceptively packaged as a "beatnik/rebel" movie-which, of course, it was not about (except for a few semi-coffeehouse scenes).
"The Rebel Set" would have zero significance except for the fact that "Mystery Science Theater 3000" showed it, and for the fact that it stars Edward Platt, better known as the Chief on "Get Smart". Otherwise this is one pathetic flick. Platt plays a man who gathers some people to assist him in a heist. As can be expected, Joel, Servo and Crow have a lot of fun trashing the movie. Among the people whom they mention are Rose-Marie, Martha Mitchell, and of course Merrit Stone. Trust me, you won't want to watch this movie outside of the "MST3K" version.
PS: Director Gene Fowler Jr. was better known as a film editor. He edited "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" and "Hang 'Em High". His other directorial efforts include "I Was a Teenage Werewolf" and "I Married a Monster from Outer Space". His father was journalist/author/dramatist Gene Fowler.
PS: Director Gene Fowler Jr. was better known as a film editor. He edited "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" and "Hang 'Em High". His other directorial efforts include "I Was a Teenage Werewolf" and "I Married a Monster from Outer Space". His father was journalist/author/dramatist Gene Fowler.
- lee_eisenberg
- Nov 12, 2011
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One of the weirdest crime film that I had ever seen. Strange in many ways, directing, acting, music score. It is a heist film, without any real lead character. And I like that. If you watch closely, you have the feeling to see some kind of a psychotronic crime film, and not a feature which the director - Gene Fowler Jr - gave us SHOWDOWN AT BOOT HILL, GANG WAR, OREGON TRAIL, classical films and certainly not made like this one. I guess Fowler Jr and his screen writers were drunk or under forbidden chemical substances.... But I like it very much, mostly, I admit, because of the armored truck heist on an isolated road, as Jean Pierre Melville's LE DEUXIEME SOUFFLE. Yes, a worth watching rare and curious crime movie.
- searchanddestroy-1
- Nov 26, 2022
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Plot-- A slippery mastermind recruits a crew of failed bohemians from a beatnik coffee house. The target is an armored car with a million dollar cargo, and an escape aboard a train. It's all planned out with split-second precision.
Another mediocre heist film trying to emulate the start-up success of Kubrick's The Killing (1956). This one's undone on a number of levels, including spotty acting (a weak Palmer in a central role), slack direction (fails to heighten plot high points), and a leaky script (a number of plot holes). Plus, that opening beatnik scene is more like a spoof than a mood-setting suspenser. At least there's the notorious Vicki Dougan as the waitress. Her way of getting Hollywood attention was to show cleavage from the backside instead of the more usual front. Judging from her credits, it didn't work.
On the other hand, the climax is action-filled with a good look at LA's elaborate train yards. However, I'm still wondering why men crawl under freight cars when they might start up any moment. Too bad that the characterizations never get enough chance to gel. As a result, there's not much sense of irony or loss at movie's end. Instead the story simply plays out in impersonally remote fashion. And that's a problem with the movie as a whole, which I guess is a good reason why the 72-minutes has remained buried in 1950's vaults.
(In passing—the "beatnik" fad was brief, mainly 1958 & '59 on the west coast, and mainly a bohemian reaction to suburban conformity of the Eisenhower years. My guess is the stylistic change of the 1960 Kennedy election undercut the novelty appeal.)
Another mediocre heist film trying to emulate the start-up success of Kubrick's The Killing (1956). This one's undone on a number of levels, including spotty acting (a weak Palmer in a central role), slack direction (fails to heighten plot high points), and a leaky script (a number of plot holes). Plus, that opening beatnik scene is more like a spoof than a mood-setting suspenser. At least there's the notorious Vicki Dougan as the waitress. Her way of getting Hollywood attention was to show cleavage from the backside instead of the more usual front. Judging from her credits, it didn't work.
On the other hand, the climax is action-filled with a good look at LA's elaborate train yards. However, I'm still wondering why men crawl under freight cars when they might start up any moment. Too bad that the characterizations never get enough chance to gel. As a result, there's not much sense of irony or loss at movie's end. Instead the story simply plays out in impersonally remote fashion. And that's a problem with the movie as a whole, which I guess is a good reason why the 72-minutes has remained buried in 1950's vaults.
(In passing—the "beatnik" fad was brief, mainly 1958 & '59 on the west coast, and mainly a bohemian reaction to suburban conformity of the Eisenhower years. My guess is the stylistic change of the 1960 Kennedy election undercut the novelty appeal.)
- dougdoepke
- Oct 7, 2015
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