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In this movie, there are no purloined designer clothes to masquerade in, and Prince Charming doesn't come complete with a political career and a three-piece suit--he's a scruffy charmer in a baggy t-shirt with little more to offer than a megaphone and a cause.
This is a film made by a director who has to be spiritual kin to Michael Moore, but his subject matter is quite different. Here we see real immigrants (both legal and illegal) being used rather cynically by companies whose business plan includes hiring the most downtrodden and fearful and hand-to-mouth in our country, paying them the lowest possible wages, giving them absolutely no benefits whatsoever, and thereby winning contracts to provide custodial and other services over companies that pay a fair and living wage, plus benefits, to primarily unionized employees who are American citizens. You know this really happens. It does. The best remedy for the situation is certainly a matter for debate, but no matter what your political slant or position on labor unions and illegal immigrants, you will most definitely find food for thought herein.
OTOH, if you are also one of the drooling legions of newbie Adrien Brody fangirls, you will find even more food for thought. Brody is painfully cute in this movie-a piquant mixuture of earnest, funny, sincere, sweet, and fiery, topped off with a kinghell case of `bedhead'.
The three central players are Pilar Padilla, as idealistic illegal immigrant Maya, her overburdened sister Rosa, played by Elipidia Carillo, and Brody as Sam Shapiro, an organizer and activist for the cause. No fairy tale, this movie, though a few of the cast are reasonably good-looking. The cast, many of whom really are janitors and custodians, are as real as it gets. You can see a lifetime of hard labor and long hours in their faces, and the slump to their shoulders.
I really grew to like these struggling janitors and maids. None of them were "types"--they were all real people and their conflicts and concerns were illuminated very well, despite limited screen time being available to each. By treating these characters with respect and making them fully-fleshed out, it made the passion of the organizers for this particular cause more understandable, and not just as sometimes seems the case in some portrayals, a matter of someone who is bored or spoiled or has some sort of guilt-complex trying to find their identity and using do-gooderism as a means to that end. Through coming out from the shadows, and joining the great and messy American experience of organized dissent, you could practically see some of these characters changing into `Americans' before your eyes, no matter what their official papers might say. Thinking like Americans, standing up for their rights, making their voices heard. That's how it's supposed to work-isn't it? Isn't it?
If there are caricatures in this movie, then those would be some of the building administrators, but their screen time is so limited, and they are usually so surprised and besieged by Sam Shapiro's stunts and protests that their lack of articulate or sympathetic response seems realistic enough to me. But the one thing that stands out is more than anything else is the absolutely natural acting style. Nobody really seems to be "acting" in this movie. It's as if there was a very unobtrusive documentary maker following these folks around. The movie is, however, well-paced between scenes which are rousing or charming, and those which are raw and painful.
Although this movie is not a love story or romance, per se, Adrien's character does get some action in it. In fact, in one amusing scene, he is literally hauled into a janitor's closet by an enterprising female (smart girl!!) and snogged silly. One can but applaud that sort of enterprise and initiative on the part of a recent arrival to this great country of ours. That's the kind of can-do immigrant spirit that made this country great, and if I were there, I would be sure to tell her how much I admired that quality in her, when I visited her in the hospital to apologize for having accidentally whacked her out of the way with a long-handled mop.
But it can't all be funny and cute, and indeed, in this same section of the movie is a scene of such raw emotion, harsh language, honesty, and truth, between the two Mexican sisters that I cannot say I have ever seen anything like it. Even Ebert said in his review that it's the kind of scene that would win an Oscar if the Academy ever saw movies like this, which of course, they don't.
The ending is both feel-good triumphant, and bittersweet. I think that such an ending was very much in keeping with the tone and overall realism of this movie--yes, some things changed for the better, but for people like these, not everyone gets that happy ending and lives happily ever after. At least, not right away.
There's real passion here, on the part of everyone involved, and it feels genuine, not manipulative. It's a pleasure to see a movie with good quality production values and excellent acting which was made for a reason, not just to make money.
This is a film made by a director who has to be spiritual kin to Michael Moore, but his subject matter is quite different. Here we see real immigrants (both legal and illegal) being used rather cynically by companies whose business plan includes hiring the most downtrodden and fearful and hand-to-mouth in our country, paying them the lowest possible wages, giving them absolutely no benefits whatsoever, and thereby winning contracts to provide custodial and other services over companies that pay a fair and living wage, plus benefits, to primarily unionized employees who are American citizens. You know this really happens. It does. The best remedy for the situation is certainly a matter for debate, but no matter what your political slant or position on labor unions and illegal immigrants, you will most definitely find food for thought herein.
OTOH, if you are also one of the drooling legions of newbie Adrien Brody fangirls, you will find even more food for thought. Brody is painfully cute in this movie-a piquant mixuture of earnest, funny, sincere, sweet, and fiery, topped off with a kinghell case of `bedhead'.
The three central players are Pilar Padilla, as idealistic illegal immigrant Maya, her overburdened sister Rosa, played by Elipidia Carillo, and Brody as Sam Shapiro, an organizer and activist for the cause. No fairy tale, this movie, though a few of the cast are reasonably good-looking. The cast, many of whom really are janitors and custodians, are as real as it gets. You can see a lifetime of hard labor and long hours in their faces, and the slump to their shoulders.
I really grew to like these struggling janitors and maids. None of them were "types"--they were all real people and their conflicts and concerns were illuminated very well, despite limited screen time being available to each. By treating these characters with respect and making them fully-fleshed out, it made the passion of the organizers for this particular cause more understandable, and not just as sometimes seems the case in some portrayals, a matter of someone who is bored or spoiled or has some sort of guilt-complex trying to find their identity and using do-gooderism as a means to that end. Through coming out from the shadows, and joining the great and messy American experience of organized dissent, you could practically see some of these characters changing into `Americans' before your eyes, no matter what their official papers might say. Thinking like Americans, standing up for their rights, making their voices heard. That's how it's supposed to work-isn't it? Isn't it?
If there are caricatures in this movie, then those would be some of the building administrators, but their screen time is so limited, and they are usually so surprised and besieged by Sam Shapiro's stunts and protests that their lack of articulate or sympathetic response seems realistic enough to me. But the one thing that stands out is more than anything else is the absolutely natural acting style. Nobody really seems to be "acting" in this movie. It's as if there was a very unobtrusive documentary maker following these folks around. The movie is, however, well-paced between scenes which are rousing or charming, and those which are raw and painful.
Although this movie is not a love story or romance, per se, Adrien's character does get some action in it. In fact, in one amusing scene, he is literally hauled into a janitor's closet by an enterprising female (smart girl!!) and snogged silly. One can but applaud that sort of enterprise and initiative on the part of a recent arrival to this great country of ours. That's the kind of can-do immigrant spirit that made this country great, and if I were there, I would be sure to tell her how much I admired that quality in her, when I visited her in the hospital to apologize for having accidentally whacked her out of the way with a long-handled mop.
But it can't all be funny and cute, and indeed, in this same section of the movie is a scene of such raw emotion, harsh language, honesty, and truth, between the two Mexican sisters that I cannot say I have ever seen anything like it. Even Ebert said in his review that it's the kind of scene that would win an Oscar if the Academy ever saw movies like this, which of course, they don't.
The ending is both feel-good triumphant, and bittersweet. I think that such an ending was very much in keeping with the tone and overall realism of this movie--yes, some things changed for the better, but for people like these, not everyone gets that happy ending and lives happily ever after. At least, not right away.
There's real passion here, on the part of everyone involved, and it feels genuine, not manipulative. It's a pleasure to see a movie with good quality production values and excellent acting which was made for a reason, not just to make money.
- surreyhill
- Apr 6, 2003
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I don't know why but I've always had good interactions with janitors. Why should there be a reason? I respect their jobs: if a floor is shiny from having just been cleaned, I wouldn't dare stick my muddy shoes on it. Just like 'garbage men' these people's jobs consist of handling 'unwanted' stuff but unlike what Luis (Frank Davila) said, I don't think their uniform make them invisible, it is just that the world has turned so competitive and greed-driven that we all keep our chins up to get a share on the dream without caring much from the reality lying beneath us.
And it takes directors like Ken Loach to open our eyes on such realities, "Bread and Roses" -whose title derives from a poem turned into union slogan for industrial (lowly paid) workers- sheds the lights on the working conditions of janitors in Los Angeles, mostly South American immigrants who're not even acknowledged a right to unionize or get insurance. It's not about what you can do for a job but also what a job can do for you. But obviously, these people are at the bottom of the social pyramid and should value their luck for having wages, wages of fear or wages of wrath, wages anyway.
And so Loach provides a sort of behind-the-scenes look on the struggle of these unglamorous people who dance with the vacuum cleaner and empty our wastebaskets. It's not exactly a leftist tribute to the working man but a social commentary and a human study on the way they're often overlooked even by Hollywood itself. Indeed, go give me a film about maids or janitors that is not a Cinderella story. In "Bread and Roses", we look at janitors beyond their uniforms, they have kids, they have daily strugles to deal with, they have dreams too like Luis who wants to become a lawman. They are different: some are political, some don't care, it's not your monolithic group and Loach never tries to pull a Capra on his material.
The heroine is Maya (Pilar Padilla) who gets a job as a janitor from her sister Rosa (Elpidia Carilla) , both women are strong in different ways. Maya is a plucky little woman who illegally enters the territory, it's interesting that Loach teases us by not allowing the human traffickers to let her go join Rosa because she didn't give enough money. Five minutes later, she'll be back but there was one scene needed to introduce Maya as resourceful, funny and capable to survive, I won't spoil it, it's both funny and realistic, and she's pretty enough to lure any guy into it, better use the power you got. That character-establishing moment works because we do believe she can spend hours wandering around her building waiting for someone to connect to, work as a waitress and have great come-backs to some macho slurs.... then get a janitor's ob and even do an elevator prank her very first day. Such girls can get away with it.
Rosa has more years behind her, more experience, she's got a sick husband (Jack McGee) and a daughter, she could have used a line from another 2000s film "I have a family, I don't have the luxury of principles". Rosa knows it's not that the job offers enough to live, but that no job at all would just make living impossible, and when you have kids or a man who needs an operation, you'd be likely to kick any Ivy League long-haired "union" propagandist off your house. Sam Shapiro is that guy, he is introduced in a funny almost cartoonish way, trying to escape from three men, you've got to have the makings of a true con artist and in some funny twist, his methods match Maya's own resourceful nature. It's obvious from the start that a woman like Maya will be more receptive to the cause lead by Sam, both actors have great chemistry.
But it's a lost cause for Rosa, even when submitted paycheck from 1982 workers revealing that wages have decreased and right for health insurance cut out (that's the paper Sam retrieves) she refuses to hear the truth. In a way she agrees with Sam: big corporations will always win because workers depend more on their jobs than they do on workers. It's a psychological arm-wrestling and the solution doesn't come from a magic hat but for pressure, harassment and some media bait-and-switch stunts. Loach never makes the nerdy Brody a romantic Robin Hood but an overly idealistic protester ignorant of some harsh realities. In fact the other side has a convincing representative in chief of staff Perez (George Lopez) who tells workers: . "Join the union and they'll ask your papers and tax your money".
The central figure remains Rosa who has one of the greatest moments in a Loach film when she explains why she has no scruples betraying the workers, revealing to Mata that it didn't take just money to get her on the other side of the border as she had to cross her own existential border toi., something that make female worker even more subjected to a new form of slavery. The dynamics of the film operate in a way that never indulges to black vs white exposition. Loach reckons the social reality through scenes of sheer anger, constructive debates and a remarkable moment when they act as party-poopers in a little Hollywood celebration featuring some real actors like Tim Roth or Ron Perlman..
The scenes works as a subtle little jab at Hollywood, a close neighbor to Los Angeles. Now, let me pay tribute to Sasheen Littlefeather who just passed away. What Brando said about her being booed and taken off stage sums up the spirit of that scene and the whole janitor's fight: "they're ruining our fantasy with a little intrusion of reality". In "Bread and Roses", Loach allowed reality to intrude itself with bravura and gusto... mucho gusto!
And it takes directors like Ken Loach to open our eyes on such realities, "Bread and Roses" -whose title derives from a poem turned into union slogan for industrial (lowly paid) workers- sheds the lights on the working conditions of janitors in Los Angeles, mostly South American immigrants who're not even acknowledged a right to unionize or get insurance. It's not about what you can do for a job but also what a job can do for you. But obviously, these people are at the bottom of the social pyramid and should value their luck for having wages, wages of fear or wages of wrath, wages anyway.
And so Loach provides a sort of behind-the-scenes look on the struggle of these unglamorous people who dance with the vacuum cleaner and empty our wastebaskets. It's not exactly a leftist tribute to the working man but a social commentary and a human study on the way they're often overlooked even by Hollywood itself. Indeed, go give me a film about maids or janitors that is not a Cinderella story. In "Bread and Roses", we look at janitors beyond their uniforms, they have kids, they have daily strugles to deal with, they have dreams too like Luis who wants to become a lawman. They are different: some are political, some don't care, it's not your monolithic group and Loach never tries to pull a Capra on his material.
The heroine is Maya (Pilar Padilla) who gets a job as a janitor from her sister Rosa (Elpidia Carilla) , both women are strong in different ways. Maya is a plucky little woman who illegally enters the territory, it's interesting that Loach teases us by not allowing the human traffickers to let her go join Rosa because she didn't give enough money. Five minutes later, she'll be back but there was one scene needed to introduce Maya as resourceful, funny and capable to survive, I won't spoil it, it's both funny and realistic, and she's pretty enough to lure any guy into it, better use the power you got. That character-establishing moment works because we do believe she can spend hours wandering around her building waiting for someone to connect to, work as a waitress and have great come-backs to some macho slurs.... then get a janitor's ob and even do an elevator prank her very first day. Such girls can get away with it.
Rosa has more years behind her, more experience, she's got a sick husband (Jack McGee) and a daughter, she could have used a line from another 2000s film "I have a family, I don't have the luxury of principles". Rosa knows it's not that the job offers enough to live, but that no job at all would just make living impossible, and when you have kids or a man who needs an operation, you'd be likely to kick any Ivy League long-haired "union" propagandist off your house. Sam Shapiro is that guy, he is introduced in a funny almost cartoonish way, trying to escape from three men, you've got to have the makings of a true con artist and in some funny twist, his methods match Maya's own resourceful nature. It's obvious from the start that a woman like Maya will be more receptive to the cause lead by Sam, both actors have great chemistry.
But it's a lost cause for Rosa, even when submitted paycheck from 1982 workers revealing that wages have decreased and right for health insurance cut out (that's the paper Sam retrieves) she refuses to hear the truth. In a way she agrees with Sam: big corporations will always win because workers depend more on their jobs than they do on workers. It's a psychological arm-wrestling and the solution doesn't come from a magic hat but for pressure, harassment and some media bait-and-switch stunts. Loach never makes the nerdy Brody a romantic Robin Hood but an overly idealistic protester ignorant of some harsh realities. In fact the other side has a convincing representative in chief of staff Perez (George Lopez) who tells workers: . "Join the union and they'll ask your papers and tax your money".
The central figure remains Rosa who has one of the greatest moments in a Loach film when she explains why she has no scruples betraying the workers, revealing to Mata that it didn't take just money to get her on the other side of the border as she had to cross her own existential border toi., something that make female worker even more subjected to a new form of slavery. The dynamics of the film operate in a way that never indulges to black vs white exposition. Loach reckons the social reality through scenes of sheer anger, constructive debates and a remarkable moment when they act as party-poopers in a little Hollywood celebration featuring some real actors like Tim Roth or Ron Perlman..
The scenes works as a subtle little jab at Hollywood, a close neighbor to Los Angeles. Now, let me pay tribute to Sasheen Littlefeather who just passed away. What Brando said about her being booed and taken off stage sums up the spirit of that scene and the whole janitor's fight: "they're ruining our fantasy with a little intrusion of reality". In "Bread and Roses", Loach allowed reality to intrude itself with bravura and gusto... mucho gusto!
- ElMaruecan82
- Oct 15, 2022
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Same typical themes handled in Loach's work. I felt something strange, while watching it, maybe the San Diegan locations might be strange to the fans used to seeing English and Scottish cities. Nevertheless I couldn't say the effort of observation and insight doesn't work; the young Mexican gal propelled by the American dream is very believable, the unknown cast acts with passion, expressing the various faces of injustice and biases migrants must endure. However, my final opinion on the movie is that it fails to illustrate the real situations these kind of people live in and their genuine feelings, that is the Ken Loach's peculiarity.
- antoniotierno
- Mar 27, 2005
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- foolishewe
- Mar 23, 2002
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As the daughter of hard-working Mexican immigrant parents and having been raised in one of Los Angeles' poorest barrios, I often saw the story of Rosa and Maya being played out in real life within my family and amongst my neighbors. The authenticity with which this story is told is astounding, showing a deep respect for those who in search of a way to make an honest living, subject themselves to countless humiliations and are relegated to live outside the margins of mainstream America.
Kudos to the writers!! This is the first time I have ever seen an American film in which the dialogue in Spanish was written by someone who actually speaks the language and can grasp the nuances and feeling of the language so perfectly. Richard Hicks is to be commended for casting both Elpidia Carrillo and Pilar Padilla in the roles of Rosa and Maya, respectively. They deliver their dialogue, especially in Spanish, with an emotion and passion that is rarely seen on the Hollywood silver screen. Needless to say, Bread and Roses is now on my list of must-have-films to add to my DVD library.
Kudos to the writers!! This is the first time I have ever seen an American film in which the dialogue in Spanish was written by someone who actually speaks the language and can grasp the nuances and feeling of the language so perfectly. Richard Hicks is to be commended for casting both Elpidia Carrillo and Pilar Padilla in the roles of Rosa and Maya, respectively. They deliver their dialogue, especially in Spanish, with an emotion and passion that is rarely seen on the Hollywood silver screen. Needless to say, Bread and Roses is now on my list of must-have-films to add to my DVD library.
- martinigirl13
- Apr 21, 2003
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Like Costa Gavras, director Ken Loach thinks that cinema is a powerful instrument for noble causes - political as well as social - rather than pure entertainment. "Bread and Roses" is a story about a group of L.A. janitors trying to unionize, while two of them, the Mexican sisters Maya and Rosa, end up following completely different paths. Loach's conflict between capital and labor may seem a bit schematic or didactic, but reality is not much more complex. In fact, "Bread and Roses" avoids two easy and simplistic solutions: to divert the labor-oriented plot to a love story between Maya and Sam (the witty union organizer), and to give us an unlikely but comforting happy end. The bittersweet finale fits perfectly. Also good is Rosa's monologue on how she managed to survive in the U.S., though the most magnetic character is Maya's, with her humorous energy, her smart but well intentioned tricks, her very personal but undeniably warmhearted ethics. Not a brilliant movie, but a good one (7/10).
- joaodelauraaurora
- Jan 1, 2002
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When I attended a screening a week ago sponsored by a local public supported radio station (KPFK) in Los Angeles, I was not certain if this film was a documentary or typical crafted Hollywood-style hyperbole since I listened with half an ear while jogging and listening to an opportunity to attend.
Who would have thought that a simple discussion on a local public supported radio station in Los Angeles (KPFK) a few years ago would compel a screenwriter (Paul Laverty) to visit a union organizing effort in downtown Los Angeles (circa 1999) resulting in a film that was drama, comedy, farce, fear, compassion and a taste of dusted immigrants creeping through Tijuana-to-USA shrubs to gain entry via the abusive "coyotes" human smuggler routes. Most of these immigrants land in day-worker situations and low pay and yet Los Angeles would collapse without them. This film concentrates on the downtown office area -- owned and occupied by the elite of Los Angeles establishment - and where many undocumented workers toil under conditions that are far less than that suggested by international Human Rights standards.
This was a polished non-Hollywood-capability-film but yet intimately Los Angeles. I listened to an interview yesterday on KPFK with Laverty and learned that funding was elsewhere - Europe I recall - not 'Hollywood'. And Laverty is from Scotland. One would never guess that the film was actually on the low-budget scale when compared with Hollywood's pleasure to spend big dollars.
I also learned that the film was made in 30-days (hence the vibrant interaction of all cast members and energetic direction by Loach) and is in release this week with 30 prints in Los Angeles, and 300 nationwide USA. Sounds like some symmetry there and potential Lottery pick permutations.
My only reservation is that the story is highly political in an undercurrent nature and may frighten an extensive audience --- unless the viewers just take the courage to go, watch, and enjoy. The film will do the rest. The viewer will leave with more than the cost of a matinee price ticket.
I also suggest that in an upcoming meeting between Vicente Fox, President of Mexico, and George W. Bush, President of United States, that Vicente snag a copy of the film and show it to George while sipping tea in Texas. And then for dessert, sip more tea and watch "Traffic".
Who would have thought that a simple discussion on a local public supported radio station in Los Angeles (KPFK) a few years ago would compel a screenwriter (Paul Laverty) to visit a union organizing effort in downtown Los Angeles (circa 1999) resulting in a film that was drama, comedy, farce, fear, compassion and a taste of dusted immigrants creeping through Tijuana-to-USA shrubs to gain entry via the abusive "coyotes" human smuggler routes. Most of these immigrants land in day-worker situations and low pay and yet Los Angeles would collapse without them. This film concentrates on the downtown office area -- owned and occupied by the elite of Los Angeles establishment - and where many undocumented workers toil under conditions that are far less than that suggested by international Human Rights standards.
This was a polished non-Hollywood-capability-film but yet intimately Los Angeles. I listened to an interview yesterday on KPFK with Laverty and learned that funding was elsewhere - Europe I recall - not 'Hollywood'. And Laverty is from Scotland. One would never guess that the film was actually on the low-budget scale when compared with Hollywood's pleasure to spend big dollars.
I also learned that the film was made in 30-days (hence the vibrant interaction of all cast members and energetic direction by Loach) and is in release this week with 30 prints in Los Angeles, and 300 nationwide USA. Sounds like some symmetry there and potential Lottery pick permutations.
My only reservation is that the story is highly political in an undercurrent nature and may frighten an extensive audience --- unless the viewers just take the courage to go, watch, and enjoy. The film will do the rest. The viewer will leave with more than the cost of a matinee price ticket.
I also suggest that in an upcoming meeting between Vicente Fox, President of Mexico, and George W. Bush, President of United States, that Vicente snag a copy of the film and show it to George while sipping tea in Texas. And then for dessert, sip more tea and watch "Traffic".
On the whole I have been greatly impressed with Ken Loach's other works, however, without question, this was the low point in my experiences with his films. Speaking as a Brit with a lot of North American life experience, I would say that Ken understands and portrays British society brilliantly, however, he hopelessly misunderstands American society. At one point, for example, one of the evil company bosses is supposed to be excruciatingly shamed in public by the gutsy and imaginative union organiser who crashes his lunch meeting ... only, in America, this simply wouldn't work - at all - in a restaurant like that in the US the other patrons would respect someone for making money & not give a crap what some "scrub" had to say about the percentage rate of profit that went into x dental plan, or what have you (I'm not really sure that that would work in Britain or anywhere else either - but in any event, it seems to me, never in the US & especially never in LA). As such, all the fabulous nuance that invades Loach's British based films is starkly absent in this one. Consequently, watching Bread and Roses was quite literally an excruciating experience - like watching a childhood hero fail embarrassingly, & without grace. Ken creating wooden characters? How is it possible?? (See above). I don't consider myself political. I am someone interested in ideas, fairness and justice. I respect people who approach the world with those ideas in mind. On this basis I usually have all the time in the world for the films that Ken creates. But realistically, I can't recommend this one. In the end I gave this movie a 5 & a half (then rounded up) but all of its score comes from a particular realistic, powerful and highly revealing moment. There's too much of the remainder left over, however, for that single moment to carry the whole.
- Always_against_torture
- Jun 9, 2006
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"Bread and Roses" is an engaging film about immigrant workers' struggles against poverty, state violence, and economic exploitation. I saw "Bread and Roses" at the Denver Film Festival thinking it was going to be a dry, lecturing documentary. Instead, it was a nuanced and complex dramatic depiction of powerful and engaging characters. It is rare to find such a politically charged film that is made so effective by presenting very human characters struggling with the contradictions of everyday life. It allows us to appreciate the tough choices we all make in conditions not of our own choosing--it allows us to explore issues outside of the knee-jerk judgments of good guy/bad guy and appreciate the very human responses to often inhuman circumstances we all participate in creating. The acting is generally very good, especially for a "low budget" production, but the main character's older sister delivers a monologue on her struggles with deprivation that still chills me to the bone even though I saw it months ago. Sorry for leaving out the details, but this is one film whose details you'll want to discover for yourself.
I was rather inpressed with this movie even though I don't agree with the message or the cause in this film. I personally feel that if you are in this country illegally anyways, you are at the mercy of your employer. All political opinions aside though, I thought the acting was good-especially from breakthrough actress Pilar Padilla (Maya.) Very interesting movie with a realistic touch. 7/10.
Illegal Mexican immigrant Maya (Pilar Padilla) arrives at her big sister's house looking to work with her as an office cleaner. She dodges potential abduction and rape on her hazardous quest to make a better life for herself. However, union organiser Sam (Adrien Brody) convinces her that betterment lies not in slaving for below minimum wage, but in joining his Justice for Janitors campaign.
Watching Bread and Roses I realised that, for many years, my wish to support Ken Loach and Paul Laverty has over-ruled my actual dislike for their films. Bread and Roses references an inspiring story, but the actual relaying of it cinematically by Loach, and in narrative terms by Laverty, is flat and under-realized. The rhythm of the scenes is stuttering, like poor improv or early rehearsals. Sam shows up at big sister Rosa's house, and immediately launches into a pro-union speech like he has known these people for a while. The cleaning company boss is a pantomime villain. There is some kind of spurious romance triangle that never really develops, and a few so-called comedy scenes to ease the intended sense of tragedy, except the whole thing is so uninvolving that it hardly matters.
As much as Laverty cannot characterise beyond two-note archetypes, Loach appears unable to manage shot flow. The camera seems merely plonked down in front of the actors - there is not one frame where the composition seems planned, never mind memorable.
Kes is a masterpiece. But since then, I have sat through Riff Raff, Land and Freedom, Sweet Sixteen, My Name is Joe, Carla's Song, Ae Fond Kiss... and come away underwhelmed each and every time. The themes are oh-so earnest, the politics very correct, the focus on the under-represented, marginalised and disenfranchised laudable in the extreme. It just never seems cinematic. Does Loach ask himself "Why is this topic better as a fiction feature than a documentary?" If he does, I cannot imagine what the answer is.
My father was a car factory shop steward, so I grew up with these issues in my living room. I come from a Glasgow working-class background, so I am empathetic to many of Laverty's chosen arenas. But the bottom line is, I just don't find myself entertained or edified by any of these films. Watching Bread and Roses, I didn't laugh, and I didn't cry. And it was clearly going after both reactions.
Loach does get some great performances at times (e.g. Peter Mullen in My Name is Joe), and here Pilar Padilla as the lead, and Elpidia Carrillo as her long-suffering elder sister Rosa, bring a touch of authentic rawness to the subject. But in a key revelatory scene between the two, the camera is placed at an in-between distance, the cutting arbitrary, and the words seem scripted rather than spontaneous.
Loach and Laverty now have a substantial body of work to their collaboration. Quite simply, I do not understand why.
Watching Bread and Roses I realised that, for many years, my wish to support Ken Loach and Paul Laverty has over-ruled my actual dislike for their films. Bread and Roses references an inspiring story, but the actual relaying of it cinematically by Loach, and in narrative terms by Laverty, is flat and under-realized. The rhythm of the scenes is stuttering, like poor improv or early rehearsals. Sam shows up at big sister Rosa's house, and immediately launches into a pro-union speech like he has known these people for a while. The cleaning company boss is a pantomime villain. There is some kind of spurious romance triangle that never really develops, and a few so-called comedy scenes to ease the intended sense of tragedy, except the whole thing is so uninvolving that it hardly matters.
As much as Laverty cannot characterise beyond two-note archetypes, Loach appears unable to manage shot flow. The camera seems merely plonked down in front of the actors - there is not one frame where the composition seems planned, never mind memorable.
Kes is a masterpiece. But since then, I have sat through Riff Raff, Land and Freedom, Sweet Sixteen, My Name is Joe, Carla's Song, Ae Fond Kiss... and come away underwhelmed each and every time. The themes are oh-so earnest, the politics very correct, the focus on the under-represented, marginalised and disenfranchised laudable in the extreme. It just never seems cinematic. Does Loach ask himself "Why is this topic better as a fiction feature than a documentary?" If he does, I cannot imagine what the answer is.
My father was a car factory shop steward, so I grew up with these issues in my living room. I come from a Glasgow working-class background, so I am empathetic to many of Laverty's chosen arenas. But the bottom line is, I just don't find myself entertained or edified by any of these films. Watching Bread and Roses, I didn't laugh, and I didn't cry. And it was clearly going after both reactions.
Loach does get some great performances at times (e.g. Peter Mullen in My Name is Joe), and here Pilar Padilla as the lead, and Elpidia Carrillo as her long-suffering elder sister Rosa, bring a touch of authentic rawness to the subject. But in a key revelatory scene between the two, the camera is placed at an in-between distance, the cutting arbitrary, and the words seem scripted rather than spontaneous.
Loach and Laverty now have a substantial body of work to their collaboration. Quite simply, I do not understand why.
- LunarPoise
- Dec 22, 2010
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Elpidia Carrillo has a scene in this film equal to the "...I'm the best possible Arnold Burns" self-justification speech in A THOUSAND CLOWNS. It's so real and raw it's almost hard to watch. I saw this film at the Santa Barbara Film Festival, and it so beautifully delivers the drama and the realities of the Justice for Janitors campaign. Ken Loach does it again...with an American accent (ALL the Americas). Adrien Brody is Ron Leibman's NORMA RAE organizer if he were younger and less seasoned, but just as much the true believer. Pilar Padilla's Maya is all passion and youth and fun-loving troublemaker. The documentary style that Ken Loach uses is perfect for the subject.
Ken Loach's one-dimensional liberal stance spoils this otherwise entertaining film about an illegal Mexican immigrant, Maya,who finds a job as a cleaner in an anonymous downtown LA skyscraper where her American-based sister, Rosa, already works. The film follows fiery Rosa's plight as an underpaid cleaner, her various conflicts with her sister and her eventual political awakening via the intervention of Adrien Brody's character, Sam Shapiro, a subversive Union representative. The film is a fictional reinterpretation of real life events involving the Justice for Janitors campaign against low pay for cleaners. Despite the human dramas that unfold during the film, Bread and Roses is a thinly-veiled attack on American economical injustice, especially against illegal immigrant workers. Oddly enough, Loach does not balance his Anti-American views against the lack of opportunities and poverty in Mexico. He never considers why Maya has left Mexico. Yes, she wanted to be with her sister - but was this the only reason? it's very easy to take pot shots at North America, but when it's this simplistic, one must question Mr Loach's lack of subtlety as a filmmaker. Overall, Bread and Roses works best as a human drama rather than a political one.
(2000) Bread and Roses
DRAMA
A common theme of the middle class director, Ken Loach depicting illegal immigration rights and their right to form a union. Starring Pilar Padilla as Maya employed as a maid at a high class hotel, crossing paths with Sam (Adrien Brody) attempting to form an union within the janitor workers of the hotel. Bringing along with this protest is Pilar's sister, Rosa played by Elpidia Carrillo.
This is kind of an updated version of "Norma Rae", as most jobs are low pay with long hours and can be put in the position to be fired for the smallest thing. What is unusual, is the American setting as director, Ken Loach is most known for portraying citizen life of Ireland, Scotland and the UK.
A common theme of the middle class director, Ken Loach depicting illegal immigration rights and their right to form a union. Starring Pilar Padilla as Maya employed as a maid at a high class hotel, crossing paths with Sam (Adrien Brody) attempting to form an union within the janitor workers of the hotel. Bringing along with this protest is Pilar's sister, Rosa played by Elpidia Carrillo.
This is kind of an updated version of "Norma Rae", as most jobs are low pay with long hours and can be put in the position to be fired for the smallest thing. What is unusual, is the American setting as director, Ken Loach is most known for portraying citizen life of Ireland, Scotland and the UK.
- jordondave-28085
- Apr 12, 2023
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Illegals are brought in over the border. They are quickly put to work. Maya has to escape from lecherous coyotes. Her sister Rosa gets her a non-union janitor job under dictatorial supervisor Perez (George Lopez). Union man Sam Shapiro (Adrien Brody) is pushing to organize and Rosa is hostile. Sam does a presentation for the workers and later Perez finds out.
Adrien Brody needs to be more likable in this movie but he is too cold to the workers' concerns. He is also kinda bad at his job. He has nothing to lose but he asks these workers to risk everything. In a way, he's more annoying than the George Lopez character. The workers are the compelling characters. Digging deeper on some of those characters could be more effective.
Adrien Brody needs to be more likable in this movie but he is too cold to the workers' concerns. He is also kinda bad at his job. He has nothing to lose but he asks these workers to risk everything. In a way, he's more annoying than the George Lopez character. The workers are the compelling characters. Digging deeper on some of those characters could be more effective.
- SnoopyStyle
- May 15, 2016
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I have a deep sympathy & connection with this movie, because two of my dearest friends were Spanish-speaking cleaners in the UK (although completely legally). Now - through ridiculously hard work and frugal living - they are bilingual, educated, skilled, and making a decent life back in their home country, where I hope to visit them one day.
As such, I can tell you that this film is so true-to-life it brought tears to my eyes. It also has moments of laughter and comedy, and an extremely important message to anyone working for low wages and low respect, and an equally important kick up the backside to people like me who never think we're paid enough, and forget about the 'invisible' people earning half our wages for doing twice the workload.
The actors (many of them cleaners in real life) are never less than excellent, and you have no trouble believing every scene. I encourage anyone to watch this movie, as it has an almost Shawshank-like feelgood factor, but is much more poignant and relevant than even that great film.
The additional programme on the DVD is not as informative as I expected (being more 'fly-on-the-wall' than documentary), but still packs a powerful emotional punch, and really adds to your appreciation of the reality behind the movie.
As such, I can tell you that this film is so true-to-life it brought tears to my eyes. It also has moments of laughter and comedy, and an extremely important message to anyone working for low wages and low respect, and an equally important kick up the backside to people like me who never think we're paid enough, and forget about the 'invisible' people earning half our wages for doing twice the workload.
The actors (many of them cleaners in real life) are never less than excellent, and you have no trouble believing every scene. I encourage anyone to watch this movie, as it has an almost Shawshank-like feelgood factor, but is much more poignant and relevant than even that great film.
The additional programme on the DVD is not as informative as I expected (being more 'fly-on-the-wall' than documentary), but still packs a powerful emotional punch, and really adds to your appreciation of the reality behind the movie.
I did not have any doubt about a Loach's film shot in USA, the social power and the rest of the elements of his films are there.
The "cleaners" reality, not only in USA, is always the same, they are underpaid and normally without social security services and benefits. This is a beautiful and very sad history about a Mexican girl who wants to find fortune in USA with her sister that is already in Los Angeles. Is well known that power of the unions in USA is not as strong as in Europe and this is the "leit motiv" of the film. A "cleaner" union is starting to be more powerful and the main character, the girl, is trying to convince the rest of the workers of the importance of a union. Then there is a love relation between her and the union leader with the final achievement of their rights.
Rating: 7/10
The "cleaners" reality, not only in USA, is always the same, they are underpaid and normally without social security services and benefits. This is a beautiful and very sad history about a Mexican girl who wants to find fortune in USA with her sister that is already in Los Angeles. Is well known that power of the unions in USA is not as strong as in Europe and this is the "leit motiv" of the film. A "cleaner" union is starting to be more powerful and the main character, the girl, is trying to convince the rest of the workers of the importance of a union. Then there is a love relation between her and the union leader with the final achievement of their rights.
Rating: 7/10
- silviopellerani
- Aug 24, 2001
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Bread and Roses (2000) is a UK/European film set in Los Angeles. The movie was directed by Ken Loach.
The film is a semi-documentary about the Los Angeles Justice for Janitors campaign that begin in 1990. The movie captures the techniques used by the janitors and union organizers to bring economic justice to janitors who were overworked and underpaid. The janitors learned that simple peaceful picketing didn't work. Using the techniques of the United Farm Workers and Saul Alinsky, they had to make themselves annoying and unpleasant to the cleaning companies and to the companies that had contracts with them.
The movie also contains a romance between union organizer Sam (Adrien Brody) and Mexican immigrant Maya (Pilar Padilla). Both are wonderful actors. Brody is a true star. This was Padilla's first film, but she is a strong and forceful presence on the screen. (Yes--also very beautiful.)
Ken Loach is a brilliant director. I've seen many of his films, and I've never been disappointed. We saw this movie on DVD, where it worked well. Bread and Roses has a fairly good IMDb rating of 7.1. I think it's better than that, and I highly recommend it.
The film is a semi-documentary about the Los Angeles Justice for Janitors campaign that begin in 1990. The movie captures the techniques used by the janitors and union organizers to bring economic justice to janitors who were overworked and underpaid. The janitors learned that simple peaceful picketing didn't work. Using the techniques of the United Farm Workers and Saul Alinsky, they had to make themselves annoying and unpleasant to the cleaning companies and to the companies that had contracts with them.
The movie also contains a romance between union organizer Sam (Adrien Brody) and Mexican immigrant Maya (Pilar Padilla). Both are wonderful actors. Brody is a true star. This was Padilla's first film, but she is a strong and forceful presence on the screen. (Yes--also very beautiful.)
Ken Loach is a brilliant director. I've seen many of his films, and I've never been disappointed. We saw this movie on DVD, where it worked well. Bread and Roses has a fairly good IMDb rating of 7.1. I think it's better than that, and I highly recommend it.
You have to admire good, worthy Ken Loach. Always admirable in motive and honest depiction, he is Britain's true indie maverick.
However, when he moved this production and story to L.A., even I felt a bit cheated and I'm sure a few lost allegiance for the director. But, just because it (at least at first) seems to lacks the kaleidoscope of colourful characters that we can identify with when he's shooting on home soil, it's about the people and in this case, Mexican workers employed illegally by a large non-union contractor as office cleaners.
I've heard of Americans requiring subtitles in order to decipher a thick Glaswegian accent and here we experience lots of subtitles, as much of the dialogue, from a largely amateur cast, is in Spanish. We, who're used to such soon get used to this but it's all a slight barrier and uphill struggle before we feel submersed into the story.
The story itself won't be recited around campfires for years to come and the dialogue is more of your typical bitty everyday conversation than the lovingly crafted screenplays that win awards. The filming, often in similar looking corridors and offices hardly allows for creativity either, but as Mr Loach is the nearest we have to the simplistic approach to the Scandinavian 'Dogme' movement, this comes as no surprise.
A charismatic Adrien Brody drops his Oscar winning stature to play a 'Justice For Janitors' unionist and at first we see him hiding around workplaces where he is definitely not welcome. He soon gets on the case of two young women, recently taken on as cleaners but have families to support.
Like more locally grown Loach's, there's lots of often grating arguing, raised voices, splashes of humour plus that all-important social message. We, or at least I, perhaps wrongly, however, cannot quite warm to the campaign as much as I do with a British Ken Loach film and like the characters themselves, feel somewhat alienated from both them and their plight.
So, far from Ken's best but still not bad.
However, when he moved this production and story to L.A., even I felt a bit cheated and I'm sure a few lost allegiance for the director. But, just because it (at least at first) seems to lacks the kaleidoscope of colourful characters that we can identify with when he's shooting on home soil, it's about the people and in this case, Mexican workers employed illegally by a large non-union contractor as office cleaners.
I've heard of Americans requiring subtitles in order to decipher a thick Glaswegian accent and here we experience lots of subtitles, as much of the dialogue, from a largely amateur cast, is in Spanish. We, who're used to such soon get used to this but it's all a slight barrier and uphill struggle before we feel submersed into the story.
The story itself won't be recited around campfires for years to come and the dialogue is more of your typical bitty everyday conversation than the lovingly crafted screenplays that win awards. The filming, often in similar looking corridors and offices hardly allows for creativity either, but as Mr Loach is the nearest we have to the simplistic approach to the Scandinavian 'Dogme' movement, this comes as no surprise.
A charismatic Adrien Brody drops his Oscar winning stature to play a 'Justice For Janitors' unionist and at first we see him hiding around workplaces where he is definitely not welcome. He soon gets on the case of two young women, recently taken on as cleaners but have families to support.
Like more locally grown Loach's, there's lots of often grating arguing, raised voices, splashes of humour plus that all-important social message. We, or at least I, perhaps wrongly, however, cannot quite warm to the campaign as much as I do with a British Ken Loach film and like the characters themselves, feel somewhat alienated from both them and their plight.
So, far from Ken's best but still not bad.
- tim-764-291856
- Sep 30, 2012
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- dr_clarke_2
- Dec 25, 2022
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"Bread and Roses" is a journeyman drama at best which centers on the plight of an illegal Mexican alien, Maya (Padilla), and her struggle to help a union organize the janitorial laborers in a Los Angeles office building. The film is ill-focused, a tad soapy, plays to the viscera, and shows some mean spirited demonstrating which would more likely hurt than help the worker. However, Padilla makes a wonderful centerpiece for a flick which will most likely appeal to Hispanics and others with an interest in the problems of Mexican labor in America. C+