17 reviews
A really good and worthwhile documentary that scratches the surface and point out directions. It's all over the Internet by now so take your time and rewind and dig deeper on your own. The gold standard and abolishing of income taxes might be areas that can be further explained, and the terrorist section needs to take religious fanatism into account.
It's most important message is that we all need to understand the current unsustainable economic system and collectively take responsibility and start the changes from beneath.
And as a side note: I don't know what film user "rune-andresen" have seen, but it can't have been this one.
It's most important message is that we all need to understand the current unsustainable economic system and collectively take responsibility and start the changes from beneath.
And as a side note: I don't know what film user "rune-andresen" have seen, but it can't have been this one.
- racing_champ
- May 9, 2013
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There's so much in 4 HORSEMEN. Yes it is talk-heavy, very densely- presented in places but it makes brilliant connections.
It's like the big-idea documentaries by Adam Curtis. It's provocative and deliberately big picture. Some of the above crits feel petty in this regard, the point is to stay global.
It's also gripping & urgent. It squares up to the biggest crisis we're facing and has much to say that is fresh.
Surprisingly, it was also been made in the UK on a shoestring. Not that you could tell.
HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
It's like the big-idea documentaries by Adam Curtis. It's provocative and deliberately big picture. Some of the above crits feel petty in this regard, the point is to stay global.
It's also gripping & urgent. It squares up to the biggest crisis we're facing and has much to say that is fresh.
Surprisingly, it was also been made in the UK on a shoestring. Not that you could tell.
HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
This is worth watching more for it's cautionary value than it's message. It does a good job describing what has become of America since the Great Depression, but bases it's viewpoint on the naive idealism of the libertarian - blaming the problem on straying from "classical" economics and advocating a return to the gold standard and demonizing debt as the root of all evil. At least it admits that regulation is a good thing. It does do a good job of pointing out that libertarians and progressives share a fair amount of common ground, and might make a reasonably functional coalition against the establishment neocons and neolibs, who have already started becoming very friendly with each other, as evidenced by the current primary election shenanigans.
I had the opportunity to go to the Four Horsemen UK premiere in London and I've been positively surprised.
The documentary is done in an artistic way and the animations very pleasant to watch. So as soon as the film starts you are captivated by its energy. Nothing to see with some boring and interminable documentary.
The different interviewees speak out without sensationalism. Although the film has an opinion, it is also full of irrefutable facts. And you don't need to have a high level of economics knowledge because everything is done to make understanding some complex concepts.
So this documentary can touch everybody. As well the people who question about the current or future problems in the world that people who are just interested in good documentary features.
I can just advise you to watch it! First because the film rocks and also because this is the kind of film which leaves you plenty of ideas.
The documentary is done in an artistic way and the animations very pleasant to watch. So as soon as the film starts you are captivated by its energy. Nothing to see with some boring and interminable documentary.
The different interviewees speak out without sensationalism. Although the film has an opinion, it is also full of irrefutable facts. And you don't need to have a high level of economics knowledge because everything is done to make understanding some complex concepts.
So this documentary can touch everybody. As well the people who question about the current or future problems in the world that people who are just interested in good documentary features.
I can just advise you to watch it! First because the film rocks and also because this is the kind of film which leaves you plenty of ideas.
- mariebolens
- Mar 15, 2012
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"Four Horsemen" is the debut feature from writer and director Ross Ashcroft and the four parts of this documentary address the banking crisis, the terrorism threat, worldwide poverty and ecological collapse respectively. While worthy, well-intentioned and (mostly) well-evidenced, for the non-political, this critique of rampant capitalism is probably heavy going with lots of talking heads - no less than 23 experts, including many senior economists and academics, express their trenchant views.
The film seems to have been popular in film festivals and indeed I saw it at the first London Labour Film Festival where it was applauded at the end, but it has some major deficiencies.
First, it is overly ambitious in scope and should perhaps have concentrated simply on the crisis of the banking sector. The links between the four threats were not always made clear and the section on terrorism was particularly weak and over simplistic. Second, the policies promulgated at the end - while rooted in a pro-capitalist position intended to be 'realistic' - involve some outrageously fanciful notions such as returning to a gold standard and abolishing income tax. I would like to know more about Ross Ashcroft and the funding of this work which might explain the source of these odd notions. Third, at no point in either the analysis or the prescription does the film acknowledge that economic and societal change does not start with institutional reform but with the organisation of workers, consumers and citizens. Real change comes through people working together in political parties, trade unions, pressure groups, and social movements.
For all these weaknesses, "Four Horsemen" does make you think and will engender much-needed debate about the urgent need to reform radically our ideas on how we create, consume and distribute wealth and how we regulate and control the institutions involved.
The film seems to have been popular in film festivals and indeed I saw it at the first London Labour Film Festival where it was applauded at the end, but it has some major deficiencies.
First, it is overly ambitious in scope and should perhaps have concentrated simply on the crisis of the banking sector. The links between the four threats were not always made clear and the section on terrorism was particularly weak and over simplistic. Second, the policies promulgated at the end - while rooted in a pro-capitalist position intended to be 'realistic' - involve some outrageously fanciful notions such as returning to a gold standard and abolishing income tax. I would like to know more about Ross Ashcroft and the funding of this work which might explain the source of these odd notions. Third, at no point in either the analysis or the prescription does the film acknowledge that economic and societal change does not start with institutional reform but with the organisation of workers, consumers and citizens. Real change comes through people working together in political parties, trade unions, pressure groups, and social movements.
For all these weaknesses, "Four Horsemen" does make you think and will engender much-needed debate about the urgent need to reform radically our ideas on how we create, consume and distribute wealth and how we regulate and control the institutions involved.
- rogerdarlington
- Sep 14, 2012
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There are all sorts of rumours flying about as to the authorship of this film.
Read the article: 'A Tale Of Plagiarism – I Wrote One Of The Year's Most Acclaimed Documentaries, Not That You'd Know It' on the Bleeding Cool website.
No matter, as to someone who doesn't understand finance but is interested, this is a great documentary.
Robert Zak, of Best For Film describes Four Horsemen as 'one of the clearest and most demystifying attempts at guiding us through the alien landscape of economics.'
Watch an extract of the film by going to YouTube and searching Fiat Money.
Read the article: 'A Tale Of Plagiarism – I Wrote One Of The Year's Most Acclaimed Documentaries, Not That You'd Know It' on the Bleeding Cool website.
No matter, as to someone who doesn't understand finance but is interested, this is a great documentary.
Robert Zak, of Best For Film describes Four Horsemen as 'one of the clearest and most demystifying attempts at guiding us through the alien landscape of economics.'
Watch an extract of the film by going to YouTube and searching Fiat Money.
- helenthomson77
- Apr 17, 2012
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FOUR HORSEMEN is an interesting documentary, well worth a watch for most..
As reviewers have mentioned, yes, it does try to cover a few too many topics in just over 90 minutes. But for the average person, a lot of the longer, more conspiratorial, more biased 'world order' YouTube documentaries are far too long and convoluted.
Stylistically, it won some plus points with me for the smooth, easy to understand narration, but lost some for, as others have said, the slight lack of cohesion between sections, points and arguments.
One last downside - on reflection, although I enjoyed the upbeat tone of the conclusion in that 'all is not lost, we can actually change things', I agree with others that the solutions put forward are potentially not viable. That said, I think some reviewers denigrate it unfairly, a documentary is meant to document the truth and put forward observations, a narrative - the documentary makers (especially these who are not huge mainstream corporates) do not make the policy, and are not even influencing those who do, so I think it's acceptable for them to put forward suggestions, right or wrong, for the viewer to look into.
FOR THE POSITIVES! Overall, this documentary should probably be, in part at least, viewed by 90% of western civilisation who are not in finance or government and have no idea that this is going on. Those of you watching this or planning on it probably already have an idea, but think of how many around you really believe what their politicians tell them - we all know plenty.
Whether you agree with every opinion demonstrated or not, it's an eye-opening and worthy use of 90 minutes.
As reviewers have mentioned, yes, it does try to cover a few too many topics in just over 90 minutes. But for the average person, a lot of the longer, more conspiratorial, more biased 'world order' YouTube documentaries are far too long and convoluted.
Stylistically, it won some plus points with me for the smooth, easy to understand narration, but lost some for, as others have said, the slight lack of cohesion between sections, points and arguments.
One last downside - on reflection, although I enjoyed the upbeat tone of the conclusion in that 'all is not lost, we can actually change things', I agree with others that the solutions put forward are potentially not viable. That said, I think some reviewers denigrate it unfairly, a documentary is meant to document the truth and put forward observations, a narrative - the documentary makers (especially these who are not huge mainstream corporates) do not make the policy, and are not even influencing those who do, so I think it's acceptable for them to put forward suggestions, right or wrong, for the viewer to look into.
FOR THE POSITIVES! Overall, this documentary should probably be, in part at least, viewed by 90% of western civilisation who are not in finance or government and have no idea that this is going on. Those of you watching this or planning on it probably already have an idea, but think of how many around you really believe what their politicians tell them - we all know plenty.
Whether you agree with every opinion demonstrated or not, it's an eye-opening and worthy use of 90 minutes.
- kelly-venner
- Oct 21, 2016
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I do wish I'd watched this five or six years-ago - but maybe I wouldn't have appreciated it then. It's a little bit like 'Zeitgeist' except that it's all real, with genuine experts who - bar one, are cart carrying capitalists, so it isn't some socialist treatise on the iniquities of modern capitalism - it's a capitalist treatise on the iniquities of modern capitalism. It explains our parlous predicament very clearly, and suggests how we might be able to survive it and prepare ourselves for the future that we all sense is coming.
- davidjaldred
- Jan 22, 2020
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Four Horsemen is an excellent overview of what's been happening to our capitalist system, and how it has devolved into a dysfunctional state over the past few decades.
This isn't a deep dive - it's an unabashedly high-level summary, but a very good one. It methodically covers all the symptoms of capitalism's ailing status quo, ultimately touching on most of the world's problems - inequality, environmental collapse, poverty, etc. There's some particularly interesting historical perspective, showing how what we call 'capitalism' has changed dramatically over the past century or more. All the interviewees are knowledgeable and do a great job of clarifying topics that are utterly opaque to most of us.
After watching Four Horsemen, you can't help feeling you're at least beginning to understand what's gone wrong, and what needs to happen in order to get things back on track.
The movie makes no rash claims - all the details are either common knowledge or easily verified. Nor does Four Horsemen advocate radical change. It suggests not a rejection of capitalism, but subtle adjustments to capitalism that would make it operate more productively, with greater benefit to our society as a whole.
Four Horsemen is both thought-provoking and an enjoyable watch. Viewers already familiar with the material will appreciate the way Four Horsemen puts it all into better focus. Viewers who haven't been following economics and tend to be baffled by today's shifting politics will find Four Horsemen a painless first step in making sense of today's world situation. Highly recommended.
This isn't a deep dive - it's an unabashedly high-level summary, but a very good one. It methodically covers all the symptoms of capitalism's ailing status quo, ultimately touching on most of the world's problems - inequality, environmental collapse, poverty, etc. There's some particularly interesting historical perspective, showing how what we call 'capitalism' has changed dramatically over the past century or more. All the interviewees are knowledgeable and do a great job of clarifying topics that are utterly opaque to most of us.
After watching Four Horsemen, you can't help feeling you're at least beginning to understand what's gone wrong, and what needs to happen in order to get things back on track.
The movie makes no rash claims - all the details are either common knowledge or easily verified. Nor does Four Horsemen advocate radical change. It suggests not a rejection of capitalism, but subtle adjustments to capitalism that would make it operate more productively, with greater benefit to our society as a whole.
Four Horsemen is both thought-provoking and an enjoyable watch. Viewers already familiar with the material will appreciate the way Four Horsemen puts it all into better focus. Viewers who haven't been following economics and tend to be baffled by today's shifting politics will find Four Horsemen a painless first step in making sense of today's world situation. Highly recommended.
The Corporation-- seen it, End of Poverty --Seen it. Inside Job--seen it This social conscious genre is starting to all having in the same exact people saying the same exact things done the same exact tired way. Even the cover art is like the Corporation. How many more films on Sub-prime immorality?
The Voice over and the script for the narration is solid but let down by the format. And the same face contribute very little to the story to make this unique. The best themes seem under explored. The old ones over explored (again).
Someone said it was shot on a budget, but you do not need much money to shoot talking heads on a black background. How many times will this try cookie cutter filmmaking format visit us?
The Voice over and the script for the narration is solid but let down by the format. And the same face contribute very little to the story to make this unique. The best themes seem under explored. The old ones over explored (again).
Someone said it was shot on a budget, but you do not need much money to shoot talking heads on a black background. How many times will this try cookie cutter filmmaking format visit us?
- rune-andresen
- Oct 28, 2012
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This is a well done, top notch documentary on the problems of the world, specifically the American Culture. There have been other docs made as well equally as informative. However, like the others is just more about the problem. Ah Media, when you all realize how much power you have to influence, you will begin using that power for the betterment of us all. Spend time on the problem and you perpetuate that. Spend time on the solution and you perpetuate that. I challenge you, now, to spend just as much time if not more on a documentary showcasing the solution because right now we have way too much momentum going in the "woe is me" direction. Oh Media, you also must realize that YOU are The Solution. It is up to us only to continue to make you aware of that power, for you are after all, the Voice of the People. Until you realize and act on such power, all we can do is focus on the solution as it applies to our own small, tiny, individual universe. For I can only affect my life and my world, your life and your world are your responsibility. It's just the way its meant to be. Alas Media, we call you to step up and use your mighty strength for all that positive and good.
Four Horseman is painfully dated, now (2023), in content and style. It suffers from the inherent sense of self-righteousness behind the motive and efforts. The 'analyses', such as they are, obviously (per the title) come from a Euro-Christian privileged perspective, thus the narrative - usually backed by melodramatic music - hides it's stridency in an annoying near-whisper; he sounds almost too tired to continue.
There are several genuinely insightful and important thinkers and ideas presented here, but few if any lines are followed in depth. Four Horseman portends to profundity, but is actually a documentary version of the teenaged kid on the street corner, pushing pampletized solutions to the world's problems on every passerby. They think their epiphany and received wisdom is unique in world history, and they feel compelled to share every superficial idea with gravity of earth-shaking impact.
There are better treatments of each of these basic ideas, with much less hyperbole and far better analyses. Four Horseman is really just a bit of candy for the outraged: it offers no real solutions and predetermined conclusions in place of analysis. Though dated, it's still fair to recognize that it's a wasted opportunity.
There are several genuinely insightful and important thinkers and ideas presented here, but few if any lines are followed in depth. Four Horseman portends to profundity, but is actually a documentary version of the teenaged kid on the street corner, pushing pampletized solutions to the world's problems on every passerby. They think their epiphany and received wisdom is unique in world history, and they feel compelled to share every superficial idea with gravity of earth-shaking impact.
There are better treatments of each of these basic ideas, with much less hyperbole and far better analyses. Four Horseman is really just a bit of candy for the outraged: it offers no real solutions and predetermined conclusions in place of analysis. Though dated, it's still fair to recognize that it's a wasted opportunity.
- jeffdstockton
- Mar 27, 2023
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