13 reviews
Whenever a movie has some political agenda or seems to, the reviewer votes divide into haters and lovers, ten stars vs one star and so on. I am an admirer of Wikileaks, but I can't view this movie so singlesidedly. Instead, I have to compare it to similar movies like Operation Takedown or even Hackers. Also, I have to take into account that this is not a big budget American movie, but an Australian TV drama.
On that scale, Underground is surprisingly good. I wouldn't know how factual it is, but take into consideration that it is based on a book (that is freely available online) about the hacker culture, written when Julian Assange was a nobody. It has no connection to Wikileaks at all and none of the Assanges consulted on the movie (even though Julian himself said he liked it when he saw it).
The actors were well chosen, the boy looks like Assange a bit, and they all acted pretty well. There are two known names in the cast: Rachel Griffiths as the mother and Anthony LaPaglia as the cop chasing him. As for the story, it was eerily similar to Operation Takedown: the morally driven hacker that raises a middle finger to authority in his quest for truth. Unlike Mitnick, though, he only paid a 2100$ fine allegedly because the judge sympathised with his family's "nomadic lifestyle".
As for the main complaint, that the movie doesn't explain the motivations of Julian Assange, that is a good thing. Several pieces of the puzzle are presented: his obsessive personality, his cult leader step dad, his morally outspoken mother, his discovery of American misdoings in the first Gulf War. They all are just pieces. Many other exist and it is the role of the viewer to get or not interested in putting them together.
My conclusion is that for people not interested in the hacker culture or specifically Assange, the movie will seem pointless. For the others, though, it is a good watch. There is, of course, some dramatization, changes of perspective and so on, but in the end it does well what it set to do and that is why I recommend it wholeheartedly.
On that scale, Underground is surprisingly good. I wouldn't know how factual it is, but take into consideration that it is based on a book (that is freely available online) about the hacker culture, written when Julian Assange was a nobody. It has no connection to Wikileaks at all and none of the Assanges consulted on the movie (even though Julian himself said he liked it when he saw it).
The actors were well chosen, the boy looks like Assange a bit, and they all acted pretty well. There are two known names in the cast: Rachel Griffiths as the mother and Anthony LaPaglia as the cop chasing him. As for the story, it was eerily similar to Operation Takedown: the morally driven hacker that raises a middle finger to authority in his quest for truth. Unlike Mitnick, though, he only paid a 2100$ fine allegedly because the judge sympathised with his family's "nomadic lifestyle".
As for the main complaint, that the movie doesn't explain the motivations of Julian Assange, that is a good thing. Several pieces of the puzzle are presented: his obsessive personality, his cult leader step dad, his morally outspoken mother, his discovery of American misdoings in the first Gulf War. They all are just pieces. Many other exist and it is the role of the viewer to get or not interested in putting them together.
My conclusion is that for people not interested in the hacker culture or specifically Assange, the movie will seem pointless. For the others, though, it is a good watch. There is, of course, some dramatization, changes of perspective and so on, but in the end it does well what it set to do and that is why I recommend it wholeheartedly.
Despite all the good reviews here, I have to say I found the Australian "Underground: The Julian Assange Story" slow and somewhat boring. Of course it can't compare to The Fifth Estate, which I actually sat through in the movies. Thanks to whomever arranged that deal for Benedict Cumberbatch, his career almost ended.
This one starts when Julian (Alex Williams) is young, and he, his mother (Rachel Griffiths) and his baby brother escape his stepfather, who wants to take the boys to a cult. His existence was a nomadic one; he lived in something like 30 cities growing up in Australia.
He gets into hacking with his friends early on, and they make bets about what places they can hack, not realizing that the phone lines will eventually trip them up.
While an older teen, Julian gets his girlfriend (Laura Wheelwright) pregnant, and things become difficult when he can't tear himself away from his buddies and hacking.
Eventually, as we know, he hacks into military Desert Storm plans and realizes that the public isn't being told important things.
The film does not go into the big 2010 Wikileaks scandal when the organization released documents of "Iran war logs, gunsight footage of the Baghdad airstrike, and the Afghan war diary. Actually the film's focus seems to be more on Assange's life.
Alex Williams was very good as Assange, protective of his family, contemplative, and extremely bright. Rachel Griffiths, never one of my favorites, didn't have much to do in this. I watched nearly the whole film before I realized Assange's nemesis was Anthony LaPaglia. I feel he is one of the most underrated actors ever, able to inhabit a role and make it seem easy and natural.
One of the best things about the film was seeing the old computers, the dial-ups, the enormous cell phones, all the old technology.
Many of the reviews here were written before the recent doings of Wikileaks, and now we learn that Assange is somewhat selective in what he's decided to tell us about the candidates for President so that we don't get the real story. We also learned that certain emails he submitted were fraudulent. It's disappointing - he started out with some noble goals, and he was sincere. Now, I don't know.
This one starts when Julian (Alex Williams) is young, and he, his mother (Rachel Griffiths) and his baby brother escape his stepfather, who wants to take the boys to a cult. His existence was a nomadic one; he lived in something like 30 cities growing up in Australia.
He gets into hacking with his friends early on, and they make bets about what places they can hack, not realizing that the phone lines will eventually trip them up.
While an older teen, Julian gets his girlfriend (Laura Wheelwright) pregnant, and things become difficult when he can't tear himself away from his buddies and hacking.
Eventually, as we know, he hacks into military Desert Storm plans and realizes that the public isn't being told important things.
The film does not go into the big 2010 Wikileaks scandal when the organization released documents of "Iran war logs, gunsight footage of the Baghdad airstrike, and the Afghan war diary. Actually the film's focus seems to be more on Assange's life.
Alex Williams was very good as Assange, protective of his family, contemplative, and extremely bright. Rachel Griffiths, never one of my favorites, didn't have much to do in this. I watched nearly the whole film before I realized Assange's nemesis was Anthony LaPaglia. I feel he is one of the most underrated actors ever, able to inhabit a role and make it seem easy and natural.
One of the best things about the film was seeing the old computers, the dial-ups, the enormous cell phones, all the old technology.
Many of the reviews here were written before the recent doings of Wikileaks, and now we learn that Assange is somewhat selective in what he's decided to tell us about the candidates for President so that we don't get the real story. We also learned that certain emails he submitted were fraudulent. It's disappointing - he started out with some noble goals, and he was sincere. Now, I don't know.
After watching this film, I can safely say I am fully on Julian's side. However, this film is in no way biased, it simply presents the facts. The acting is brilliant, and Alex Williams performance is quite amazing to watch, as he portrays the socially unsure character of Julian Assange. I for one was quite rejecting of Assange's pleas for mercy during the Wikileaks scandal of 2010, but now, I can safely say I am open to all sides of the story. If I had one complaint, it would be that this film does not allow any time to tell the story of the 2010 Wikileaks scandal, in fact, all we as the viewers get to witness is a short summary of what happened before the ending credits. However, all is forgiven, as this is an "origin story", and not a biographical film. The Soundtrack is excellent, and it's beautifully filmed. This tele-movie is a real gem, and deserves to be played in Australian cinemas, especially when some of the other rubbish seems to gain access to our screens. See this movie, and decide for yourself, you won't regret it!
- coreylisle20
- Oct 7, 2012
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This is film is a great example of re-writing history to suit a narrative.
The entire film is a mishmashed jumble of paragraphs & chapters from the very well researched book "Underground: Hacking, madness and obsession on the electronic frontier" by Suelette Dreyfus, with the truth being stretched so thin and an added overdose of embellishments and flat out lies, that the film no longer resembles the reality it attempts to portray.
If you care about the truth or an accurate account of history, I would strongly suggest you read the above mentioned book (easily found free online).
The main premise of the film seems to be an attempt to convince you Julian's teenage digital exploration in the late 80's and early 1990s is directly linked to the release of the Afghan & Iraq warlogs in 2010.
Do remember it was Chelsea (Bradley) Manning that leaked the warlogs to Wikileaks, the files were NEVER hacked.
Also remember, Wikileaks doesn't hack or steal information, but relies on 'Leaks' from Whistleblowers and insiders.
The way the hacking, characters, events, police investigation (Operation Weather) and the happenings have been changed(falsified), takes the film beyond even a parody account of the truth, more accurately the film becomes a poorly written and mocking fable of a teenage Julian Assange.
Don't waste your time watching this garbage.
The entire film is a mishmashed jumble of paragraphs & chapters from the very well researched book "Underground: Hacking, madness and obsession on the electronic frontier" by Suelette Dreyfus, with the truth being stretched so thin and an added overdose of embellishments and flat out lies, that the film no longer resembles the reality it attempts to portray.
If you care about the truth or an accurate account of history, I would strongly suggest you read the above mentioned book (easily found free online).
The main premise of the film seems to be an attempt to convince you Julian's teenage digital exploration in the late 80's and early 1990s is directly linked to the release of the Afghan & Iraq warlogs in 2010.
Do remember it was Chelsea (Bradley) Manning that leaked the warlogs to Wikileaks, the files were NEVER hacked.
Also remember, Wikileaks doesn't hack or steal information, but relies on 'Leaks' from Whistleblowers and insiders.
The way the hacking, characters, events, police investigation (Operation Weather) and the happenings have been changed(falsified), takes the film beyond even a parody account of the truth, more accurately the film becomes a poorly written and mocking fable of a teenage Julian Assange.
Don't waste your time watching this garbage.
close to truth, excellent biography movie and no matter how low the budget for the movie was the acting was so strong that after first 15 minutes you start not to notice the lacking of resources invested in the project. The story itself is inspiring fact that there are much more brilliant causes in this life than creating apple or face-book. He is our Che Guevara of the modern internet era. Love this movie. Unfortunately enough its not a Hollywood production, and will never gain the popularity of our facebook generation, and many mainstream thinkers will simply vote this down. I would classify this on the ranking list above pirates of the silicon valley with respect to screen shot and acting as well as historical value and society importance. Bravo for our fellows Australians that have made such a wonderful movie four digital hero of the century for our digital robin hood.
- MGorgeski-918-889013
- Nov 6, 2012
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The purpose of this movie should have been to show "what makes Assange tick". The producer/director and screen writer failed in this area because they do not know the answer.
Assange's nomadic lifestyle does not explain what makes him tick, nor does Assange's father, nor does his girlfriend. These are certainly external factors in Assange's childhood, but they do not explain what makes him tick. Also, the superfluous details about his girlfriend and his child were absolutely ridiculous and should have been excluded as non-essential details.
The film should have focused on Assange's motive that he has held and still holds. I should have seen more about his love for freedom of speech, his ability of using the internet; and his long days and nights in front of the computer (for which he is know). The "why" was left unanswered.
It is not the external factors of a nomadic lifestyle that made him what he is today. It was not because his father or step-father was strange that Assange is what he is today. It is not because of his girlfriend. But it is because he holds certain ideas. Those ideas were buried throughout the movie.
What made him risk his life? What made him follow certain principles that he is known for today? What are his principles?
Assange's nomadic lifestyle does not explain what makes him tick, nor does Assange's father, nor does his girlfriend. These are certainly external factors in Assange's childhood, but they do not explain what makes him tick. Also, the superfluous details about his girlfriend and his child were absolutely ridiculous and should have been excluded as non-essential details.
The film should have focused on Assange's motive that he has held and still holds. I should have seen more about his love for freedom of speech, his ability of using the internet; and his long days and nights in front of the computer (for which he is know). The "why" was left unanswered.
It is not the external factors of a nomadic lifestyle that made him what he is today. It was not because his father or step-father was strange that Assange is what he is today. It is not because of his girlfriend. But it is because he holds certain ideas. Those ideas were buried throughout the movie.
What made him risk his life? What made him follow certain principles that he is known for today? What are his principles?
- janinespools
- Oct 9, 2012
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Smart movie, nicely reflecting the hypocrisy of modern society, and modern media. Tackles general ignorance, and wish of a talented young man to use his talents for something bigger than ordinary life. Without pathetic heroism and vanity, which might be expected, but rather suggests some different model of behavior to smart young people. Decently low grade fine suits to movie with non-orthogonal ideas.
- kvodfak-983-624677
- Aug 12, 2017
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- Craftbp014-321-689873
- Sep 16, 2012
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Underground has great actors and an even better story line. This movie should be more popular than it is. I'm not sure how much of the movie is real because I'm not Julian Assange, but I can say you can tell they tried to make it as accurate as possible. Considering I grew up using computers in the late 80's and onward I can easily understand this movie. For someone that has only been around computers for the past 5-10 years might have complications trying to understand the movie. I haven't been able to get the complete story on how computers were adapted in other countries in the late 80's so that was interesting for me to see represented in the movie.
I feel the pieces left out in the movie are left out for a reason. This is a movie that was made to entertain and inform. We all know if you want the full story you must read the book or do research. You have to expect some parts left out in the film.
I like Underground because it is not biased. The movie gave me a story of a hacker and it let me formulate my own opinion of him. My opinion is that I cannot give this movie a bad review considering what is being played in theaters and popular today.
You cannot help noticing the people that actually watched the movie gave it rave reviews.
I can quote Marianno Gorgeski "He is our Che Guevara of the modern internet era." Couldn't say it better myself. Also like he said he is trying to do more for the world than Facebook and the like are trying to do. That is why he is seen as a threat.
The only summary that I came up with after watching this film is Julian Assange is seen as a genius because the world has become lazy and incompetent. If the people demanded the truth like they should I think we would all praise Julian for what he stands for.
I feel the pieces left out in the movie are left out for a reason. This is a movie that was made to entertain and inform. We all know if you want the full story you must read the book or do research. You have to expect some parts left out in the film.
I like Underground because it is not biased. The movie gave me a story of a hacker and it let me formulate my own opinion of him. My opinion is that I cannot give this movie a bad review considering what is being played in theaters and popular today.
You cannot help noticing the people that actually watched the movie gave it rave reviews.
I can quote Marianno Gorgeski "He is our Che Guevara of the modern internet era." Couldn't say it better myself. Also like he said he is trying to do more for the world than Facebook and the like are trying to do. That is why he is seen as a threat.
The only summary that I came up with after watching this film is Julian Assange is seen as a genius because the world has become lazy and incompetent. If the people demanded the truth like they should I think we would all praise Julian for what he stands for.
- RobertHouse
- Nov 10, 2014
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WATCH THIS MOVIE !!!
Don't watch, "We Steal Secrets," cuz that one isn't factual at all.
WikiLeaks Army
Calling on high What are we to do Countrymen lied but we had no clue Too busy making money to keep up with the Jones The land of milk and honey turned into dry bones
Yes, the land of the free and the home of the brave has spent all our money putting souls in the grave Our leaders have lied Stealth is their reason Their alibi we've all committed treason
They caught them and killed them engaged in denial but say it's all legal no need for a trial Spy on you and make you swear to God it's true Then tell you forget you not your business you're through
And this one killed that one and that one killed this so forever they'll kill more to make it all bliss And powers belong to the ones who have guns or the ones who own the biggest mansions
No more rights Some more laws Add some torture won't you No more truth Can't withdraw That's the best they can do And if you speak out for humanity's sake you ought fear for your life cuz that they can take
Who shall be bold to the world I do ask just me and my poems to fulfill this task Nay I say to you all there's an army out there so stand straight and stand tall for they are prepared
The invisible war being fought on mainframes is just a memoir of all their war games It's the truth of this matter that will set us all free and for that we can thank WikiLeaks army
Don't watch, "We Steal Secrets," cuz that one isn't factual at all.
WikiLeaks Army
Calling on high What are we to do Countrymen lied but we had no clue Too busy making money to keep up with the Jones The land of milk and honey turned into dry bones
Yes, the land of the free and the home of the brave has spent all our money putting souls in the grave Our leaders have lied Stealth is their reason Their alibi we've all committed treason
They caught them and killed them engaged in denial but say it's all legal no need for a trial Spy on you and make you swear to God it's true Then tell you forget you not your business you're through
And this one killed that one and that one killed this so forever they'll kill more to make it all bliss And powers belong to the ones who have guns or the ones who own the biggest mansions
No more rights Some more laws Add some torture won't you No more truth Can't withdraw That's the best they can do And if you speak out for humanity's sake you ought fear for your life cuz that they can take
Who shall be bold to the world I do ask just me and my poems to fulfill this task Nay I say to you all there's an army out there so stand straight and stand tall for they are prepared
The invisible war being fought on mainframes is just a memoir of all their war games It's the truth of this matter that will set us all free and for that we can thank WikiLeaks army
- wikileaks-648-294458
- Apr 1, 2013
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How much 'fact' is involved with this story of Julian Assange early life I do not know. But the movie as itself stands as great entertainment, perfectly cast and with a fantastic script!
Alex Williams as the young Assange gives a powerhouse performance of a young man focused and driven by his wanting to expose 'the truth' and not cause damage in the process. And he achieves his goal even with the dial-up internet of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
The 'authorities' are full of disdain and envy for this group of geniuses and their knowledge of up and coming technology. Assange laid the groundwork for the digital oversight 'the press' has failed to utilize in their mission as the fourth estate to keep an eye on corruption in the state and corporations.
This movie shows that Assange is a 21st century hero!
Alex Williams as the young Assange gives a powerhouse performance of a young man focused and driven by his wanting to expose 'the truth' and not cause damage in the process. And he achieves his goal even with the dial-up internet of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
The 'authorities' are full of disdain and envy for this group of geniuses and their knowledge of up and coming technology. Assange laid the groundwork for the digital oversight 'the press' has failed to utilize in their mission as the fourth estate to keep an eye on corruption in the state and corporations.
This movie shows that Assange is a 21st century hero!
The actor playing Julian is riveting.
The storyline about early hacking attempts and Woz' "blue box" used to intercept the old phone company mechanical relay system by spoofing tones was interesting to see.
The movie was heavy on technology specifics without giving short shrift to the storyline of Julian's life.
I loved the review of emerging Computer technology and the realistically portrayed old hardware.
I was amazed how often the "white hats" were forced to play catch up with the techniques of the early hacker culture.
The storyline about early hacking attempts and Woz' "blue box" used to intercept the old phone company mechanical relay system by spoofing tones was interesting to see.
The movie was heavy on technology specifics without giving short shrift to the storyline of Julian's life.
I loved the review of emerging Computer technology and the realistically portrayed old hardware.
I was amazed how often the "white hats" were forced to play catch up with the techniques of the early hacker culture.
This film left me with the reminder of how little Australians know about the largeness of the characters in our countries history. Loved the simple outline of Assange's formative years, which I had little knowledge of. Was very enjoyable seeing IT in the time frame in which his international involvement started. The reality of period IT equipment, home pieces, telephone exchange, cheap city student housing, police structure was entertaining as well as a reminder of we're this fitted in my background. Was also enjoyable fitting Assange history into the news events of the day that I recalled, The Family. The 'one liner' written across screen at end, about custody battle, single parent child raising, leaves me hanging for the rest of the Bio. Very enjoyable documentary, would recommend to all, for both entertainment in terms of Australian 'period' piece & understanding were Assange comes from.
- bridon-792-528635
- Sep 14, 2013
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