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I enjoyed this film much much more than I should have. It's more enjoyable than scores of Hollywood movies I've seen recently that cost 1000 times as much. Ok, there's some duff acting here and there, from the young cast it has to be said. The main villain is trying way too hard, as do most of his gang, but it's the young girl who wins the rotten tomato. I don't think she's a bad actor, that's the thing, just needed better direction. And that's the main issue I have with this film. The direction. Cinematography is great. Script is witty and fun. The old guys/girls are great. And their dialogue is awesome... it's the direction that's lacking. Watching this I felt like I was watching a day tine terrestrial tv version that had been cut to get a daytime rating. Prime examples are the torture scene and the arm cutting. You see nothing. Also the old boys characters were so rich they needed more screen time. I wanted to know more about them and what their past was. It's all asked over way too quickly. The gun ending too was badly shot and didn't really give the pay off we all wanted. I wish they'd Dione more with it. But overall this is a good movie. Much better than the stupid 3 and 4 reviews given here. Approach it for what it is... a love budget British indie film, and you'll have fun in Ritchie and his Pals company. I would definitely want to see another one. But given this was 2014 and I'd ne er heard of it, that seems unlikely. A shame as this gang deserves more. Knocks films like cockneys versus vampires and all the set into the dust.

Slow to start yeah.

But it gets going and shows the arrogant (invincible) youth that they are novices in their world of gangsterism - once they have provoked the "old guard" into action.

What made this film for me was the cast that has been put together. Faces that I haven't seen on screen for years such as Ian Ogilvy, Lysette Anthony, Alison Doody and Christopher Ellison stand on screen with newcomers such as Danny Boy Hatchard who plays the most vile of characters. But thats the point. Within seconds of seeing Danny Boy Hatchards character (Aaron) on screen, I wanted to reach through the screen and throttle him. Brilliantly played by Danny Boy Hatchard who Im sure is a very decent guy with a heard of cold, he brilliantly plays one of the most vile humans I have seen on screen for a while. Well played Danny!.

On the flip side of that is the character of Lauren, fantastically played by Dani Dyer in her first big role in a feature film (Dani previously appeared in a small role in Vendetta) Dani does a fantastic job here in We Still Kill The Old Way, standing toe to toe with actors who have been around for decades. In fact some of the best scenes of the film involve Lauren (Dani Dyer) and Richie (Ian Ogilvy) who have a sort of Father/Daughter vibe going on in the film after certain events intertwine their lives. This may be Dani's first major role, but she has a great future ahead if she takes it. Its great to see that Dani is currently filming in the Neil Jones directed film Age of Kill (written by Simon Cluett) which is due out in 2015. Here in We Still Kill The Old Way, we the viewer are genuinely concerned about Laurens safety at several points in the running time. We want to get her out of that scary world, but we cant, so hope and prey that Richie will do it for us.

So is We Still Kill The Old Way worth watching? Well very much so yes. Its brutal, its well written, its well acted and whilst it does share a lot of 'themes' of Vendetta. (taking the law into your own hands), its a theme that worked in Vendetta, and works in this film too. Definitely check it out if you want to be pretty entertained for an hour and a half by a great cast, in a very decent film., especially if you like a bit of the old vigilante style film like Get Carter, or Death Wish.

I was attracted to the film initially because it has Dougie Brimsons name attached. The guy hasn't let me down with his work yet, and also the name Sacha Bennett attached.as director who also hasn't let me down yet (although I have still to track down and watch his film Outside Bet)

They didn't let me down. I totally enjoyed We Still Kill The Old Way and hope you do too

Good film to be fair, a little bit wayward with the police reaction at the end but kept me entertained.

Very rough, very realistic, very British.

It started strong and could have been a great revenge story. Unfortunately, the script and the directing messed up the second part, when the story lost its 'line'.

Disappointing final with a mass shooting in a hospital(!). Why filmmakers have so much trouble with consisting endings, here, why not tracing the villains step by step and giving them what they deserve? Instead the worst of the gang died graciously fast by a police bullet.

A central part of the story is completely incomprehensible: the daughter of the police women being the devote sex object of the guy who is the scum of the earth; without the mother having any idea? Come on!

Still an entertaining movie, though the topic is somewhat given away.

The old school actors did a good job and it was nice to see them all in one film, they had all the good lines. The dialogue for the young bad guys was disappointing and vulgar which was a shame as it spoilt an otherwise reasonable film. The bad guys were a bit cliche. All in all worth a watch but it's no goodfellows.

This was a recommendation and a movie I'd certainly never had watched otherwise. Not only do I generally dislike British cinema but I hate any "Gangster" related nonsense especially such low rent stuff like this.

It's a revenge tale, a bunch of old school gangsters seeking retribution against young hoodlums who take the life of one their own. On paper this movie stood absolutely no chance with me, but it does have redeeming features.

It's paced perfectly, it's wonderfully constructed and the 4 veterans do a fantastic job especially Ogilvy and Cosmo. It succeeds in making you absolutely detest the antagonists, to levels I haven't seen since Eden Lake (2008).

But on the flipside our heroes are also villians, it's difficult rooting for a side when essentially it's bad vs bad. I don't care if the youth are more obnoxious, in the grand scheme of things I'm sure the protagonists have considerably more blood under their nails. Much like the critically acclaimed Attack the Block (2011), you expect me to cheer on these wretches just because the opposition is worse?

And more? It suffers with the same problem as Eden Lake. Namely, it's too real. What I mean by that is chav scum and youth gangs are rife, you see them to some extent daily regardless of where you are in the country and quite frankly I don't want to see them in movies as well. The first 10 minutes of the film made me deeply uncomfortable for a host of reasons.

So though the film is wonderfully made it suffers due to its own successes. For me this was better than it should have been, but I just can't get behind a movie with such themes.

The Good:

Very well made

Some great performances

The Bad:

Deeply uncomfortable viewing in places

Things I Learnt From This Movie:

Hospital security isn't what it used to be

I was genuinely surprised by how good this was - it's a South London gangland film and it was well made, entertaining and Danny Dyer wasn't in it but his daughter is and she is interestingly enough called Dani Dyer! (Couldn't make it up could you). Well Ian Ogilvy, Richie, of 'The Return of the Saint' fame is retired to the Costa del Crime and is awaiting his big brother to come over for a Birthday bash. Meanwhile back in Blighty his bro Charlie (Steven Berkoff) interrupts a gang who are sexually assaulting a young girl Lauren (Dani Dyer) - instead of acting like men they brutally murder him.

The Feds (that is police to non gang types) are about as much use as a pork pie at a bar mitzvah and so Richie gets his chopper out - sorry helicopter - and comes home back to his old Manor - where everyone used to be proper crooks and love their mums - that was back in the day. Now they are all 'blud' and 'innit' and have to walk with a pimp stroll and a permanent hood on their heads like a failed monk. There he assembles the old firm - who are a coterie of crime acting regulars- and they go all out for some righteous retribution.

Now there are some issues with this film, police procedure is a joke, a few plot holes, as many coincidences as Dickens packed into 'Oliver Twist' and an ending that requires a bit of a stretch to actually believe. That said I still ruddy enjoyed it, veteran James Cosmo as the loud mouthed Arthur was brilliant and Ian Ogilvy showed what a bit of old school talent can bring to the screen. This is a guilty pleasure and I wish the makers all the best - it is nice seeing veteran actors getting a fair crack at a fun role. If you want a bit of semi - mindless fun and don't mind a bit of sawn off shotgun justice then this is for you or puckkah as they say.

This is a London based vigilante film that features almost cartoonish street hoodlums who the director goes out of his way to make utterly despicable such as casual raping and at one point threatening to throw a pram and baby over a building.

An old man Charlie (Steven Berkoff) is kicked to death by a gang called E2 as he tries to help a young woman from being raped. However Charlie was a respected and also a feared former gangster. To get revenge his brother Richie (Ian Ogilvy) returns from Spain and gets together with his old lags to gain revenge.

The hard guy pensioners go old school as they catch several members of E2 and torture them as they try to find out the whereabouts of their gang leader. The police in the mean time act like dummies not even able to find out that the gang put Charlie's beating on YouTube.

It is nice to see former Saint, Ogilvy returning to headline a film and trading his posh accent for a gruff cockney one. He still looks smooth for his age which is more than I can say for the female co- stars Alison Doody and Lysette Anthony who are unrecognisable from their bygone years.

At least the hard assed veterans seem to be having fun getting back to torturing their victims like the old day although I did it find it hard to believe that the youthful scum did not start squealing after one punch.

The film is derivative, enjoyable and plain daft in equal measures. The shoot out at the hospital was almost bizarre.

I have to say that this was a brilliant film. With the UK the way it is, being overrun by little chavs, this was the ultimate chav-culling film. a group of old school gangsters stand up to them and take them down the old way.

Some good humour and references to other films such as the Italian Job, it was a refreshing change from half of the rubbish that is released nowadays.

OK the way that the gang leader talks was a bit over the top, but it shows how people perceive the little gits.

If you want a good film with a nice little twist, then watch this film.

It's distinctly slow to get going. The vileness of the hoodies seems a bit overdone; later on you know why it's necessary, so we feel there's nothing whatsoever so bad but they deserve it; but at the time it's just a bit much. Worst of all, the punishment doesn't fit the crime - it's not the very worst of them that meets the worst end. But for all that tremendously enjoyable, entertaining and with a feel good factor.

Possibly one of the best films from the Jonathan Sothcott produced vault. It combines an older experienced cast (Ian Ogilvy, Tony Denham, Chris Ellison, James Cosmo etc) with some of todays up and coming younger talent from the UK. Quite a good story to it with some humour, and a flowing script and direction from Sacha Bennett. Well worth a Sunday Afternoon!

Plot: An attractive gang girl is harassed and assaulted by her gang. A elderly witness tries to help her and it's the last thing he does. Turns out that he and his brother, who now lives a life of quiet luxury on the Spanish Coast used to run everything illegal in this same area many years ago. All acting is good, but there's no brilliance there since everybody are playing charactures of themselves. This high quality production uses a few sets to establish that the new gangs are absent any values or redeeming qualities. The script has the audience wishing for a resurgence of the more moral gangs of the past. The brother comes to London for the funeral in a chartered, or private, helicopter. He amasses his old lieutenants (those still alive) and vows justice. His former mistress still lives in the hood and finds a filming of the double assault on the darknet. So the brother has an target for his revenge. The film is fun, but it has its weaknesses. First, the old gang is almost portrayed as Romantic and Noble especially when compared to the callous, contemporary youth gangs who are naive to the area's history. The former mobsters are cliches pulled right out of dozens of movies/books. Ah, but so what?... We need an anti-hero to clean up this neighborhood! It turns out the assaulted remains loyal to the gang and her boyfriend who's reluctantly in the gang, and who by-the-way is the daughter of the police inspector investigating the murder. The mother is clueless that her daughter was in the middle of it. Maybe the handsome but elderly monster will help her like a fairy godfather and not tell the well intentioned but hapless, beautiful blond inspector. For those the hardened fan of justice and mobster films, we are rooting for the old guys. And the writers leave an opening for a sequel or series of them. A little too cliche, but a good way to spend 90 minutes.

Would you believe that Hollywood has been trying to do a film like this for years ... and never succeeded? You look at nonsense like Stallone's boring and repetitive Expendable series and dramas-turned-comedies like the OVER THE HILL GANG and you realize that Hollywood lacks whatever gene is required to make a film where the older players pull the rug out from the younger ones.

Because, at its core, Hollywood reflects a culture of youth.

Thank God for UK filmmakers. A little tradition. A little respect for the old ways.

And presto, easily the best generational conflict film in recent memory.

Set against a story about a modern gang of street punks that unintentionally takes on a gang that used to run their neighbourhood when they were still a gleam in daddy's eye.

By itself, this is an excellent film, with great dialogue, real characters, no false moments.

If you are over 55, however, it is a positive treat.

This film can be added to a list of "most pointless films ever" It just has to be a tax write off, I can't think of any other reason anyone would of produced such utter garbage.

This film is nothing more than a cliché containing a shockingly bad group of young actors that would be better suited to the kids program "Balamory" If you are going to create a film with actors meant to depict a upcoming crime syndicate at least find actors that fit the part and not a group of kids that looks like they would crap their pants during the slightest confrontation at a shopping center car park dispute after escaping daycare.

If you want to know whats wrong with this planet, its partly due to pointless violence depicted in films like this that kids eventually download free from torrents out of pure boredom, led to believe that tormenting women in housing projects and hanging baby carriages containing a baby over the edge of a 30 story building is gang worthy or in the slightest bit tough.

If you want to know whats wrong with the film industry, watch this rubbish. Otherwise rent Balamory and shoot water pistols at each other, same effect in the end. Better still, mace yourself until the urge subsides.

Minus 5 Stars.

Well to be honest I was having a high expectations from this movie. Though it didnt met my expectation but I wasn't disappointed also. It was an enjoyable movie. The classic old way revenge. Absolutely beautifully made. Though there should be more action and the gun scenes.

All in all a beautiful decent film with some old style classic dialouges, real acting and great expressions.

If this was classed as a black comedy it may have got a 3/10 but it isn't.The acting and storyline makes crossroads look like Macbeth .The lady copper and Ian Ogilvy take acting to lows rarely reached.If the option is the dentist or watching this drivel again then get the drill on.The actual story of an old east-end gangster returning to his old stomping ground to find his brothers killers is promising ,however the script is ridiculous and insulting to intelligence.The one bright spot was the over the top cameo performance of Steven Berkoff who in hindsight should have switched roles with Ogilvy.Unfortunately his appearance in the film was oh to brief as the almost manic brother killed by the thugs.Surely there must be better script writers around than this turgid effort.I wish you luck if you disregard my warning.Come on British Film makers lets get back to credibility.