What About Carbon Dating?
What About Carbon Dating?
What about
carbon dating?
• How does the carbon ‘clock’ work?
• Is it reliable?
• What does carbon dating really show?
• What about other radiometric dating methods?
• Is there evidence that Earth is young?
P
EOPLE who ask about carbon-14 (14C) dating usually want to
know about the radiometric dating1 methods that are claimed
to give millions and billions of years—carbon dating can only
give thousands of years. People wonder how millions of years could be
squeezed into the biblical account of history.
Clearly, such huge time periods cannot be fitted into the Bible without
compromising what the Bible says about the goodness of God and the
origin of sin, death, and suffering—the reason Jesus came into the world
(see Chapter 2).
Christians, by definition, take the statements of Jesus Christ seriously.
He said, “But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and
female” (Mark 10:6). This only makes sense with a time line beginning
with the Creation Week thousands of years ago. It makes no sense at all
if man appeared at the end of billions of years.
We will deal with carbon dating first and then with the other dating
methods.
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decreases as time goes on (figure 1). In other words, the 14C/12C ratio
gets smaller. So, we have a ‘clock’ which starts ticking the moment
something dies (figure 2).
Obviously, this works only for things which were once living. It can
not be used to date volcanic rocks, for example.
The rate of decay of 14C is such that half of an amount will convert
back to 14N in 5,730 ± 40 years. This is the ‘half-life’. So, in two half-
lives, or 11,460 years, only one-quarter will be left. Thus, if the amount
of 14C relative to 12C in a sample is one-quarter of that in living organisms
at present, then it has a theoretical age of 11,460 years. Anything over
about 50,000 years old should theoretically have no detectable 14C left.
That is why radiocarbon dating cannot give millions of years. In fact, if a
sample contains 14C, it is good evidence that it is not millions of years old.
However, things are not quite so simple. Firstly, plants discriminate
against carbon dioxide containing 14C. That is, they take up less than
would be expected and so they test older than they really are. Furthermore,
different types of plants discriminate differently. This also has to be
corrected for.2
Secondly, the ratio of 14C/12C in the atmosphere has not been
constant—for example it was higher before the industrial era when the
massive burning of fossil fuels released a lot of carbon dioxide that was
depleted in 14C. This would make things which died at that time appear
older in terms of carbon dating. Then there was a rise in 14CO2 with
the advent of atmospheric testing of atomic bombs in the 1950s.3 This
would make things carbon dated from that time appear younger than
their true age.
2. Today, a stable carbon isotope, 13C, is measured as an indication of the level of discrimination
against 14C. It is also a check that the 14C came from a once-living organism.
3. Radiation from atomic testing, like cosmic rays, causes the conversion of 14N to 14C.
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4. Tree ring dating (dendrochronology) has been used in an attempt to extend the calibration
of carbon-14 dating earlier than historical records allow, but this depends on temporal
placement of fragments of wood (from long-dead trees) using carbon-14 dating, assuming a
more-or-less straight-line extrapolation backwards. Then cross-matching of ring patterns is
used to calibrate the carbon ‘clock’—a circular process which does not give an independent
calibration of the carbon dating system.
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field has been decreasing,5 so more 14C is being produced now than in
the past. This will make old things look older than they really are.
Also, the Genesis Flood would have greatly upset the carbon balance.
The Flood buried a huge amount of carbon, which became coal, oil, etc.,
lowering the total 12C in the biosphere (including the atmosphere—plants
regrowing after the Flood absorb CO2 which is not replaced by the decay
of the buried vegetation).6 Total 14C is also proportionately lowered at
this time, but whereas no terrestrial process generates any more 12C, 14C
is continually being produced, and at a rate which does not depend on
carbon levels (it comes from nitrogen). Therefore the 14C level relative
to 12C increases after the Flood. So the 14C/12C ratio in plants/animals/
the atmosphere before the Flood had to be lower than what it is now.
Unless this effect (which is additional to the magnetic field issue
just discussed) were corrected for, carbon dating of fossils formed in the
Flood would give ages much older than the true ages.
Creationist researchers have suggested that dates of 35,000–45,000
years should be recalibrated to the biblical date for the Flood.7 Such a
recalibration makes sense of anomalous data from carbon dating—for
example, very discordant ‘dates’ for different parts of a frozen musk ox
carcass from Alaska and an inordinately slow rate of accumulation of
ground sloth dung pellets in the older layers of a cave where the layers
were carbon dated.7
Also, volcanoes emit much CO2 depleted in 14C. Since the Flood
was accompanied by much volcanism (see Chapters 10, 11, 12, and 17),
fossils formed in the early post-Flood period would give radiocarbon
ages older than they really are.
In summary, the carbon-14 method, when corrected for the effects
of the Flood, can give useful results, but needs to be applied carefully.
It does not give dates of millions of years and when corrected properly
fits well with the biblical Flood (figure 3).
5. McDonald, K.L. and Gunst, R.H., An analysis of the earth’s magnetic field from 1835 to
1965, ESSA Technical Report IER 46-IES, US Government Printing Office, p. 14, 1965.
6. Taylor, B.J., Carbon dioxide in the antediluvian atmosphere, Creation Research Society
Quarterly 30(4):193–197, 1994.
7. Brown, R.H., Correlation of C-14 age with real time, Creation Research Society Quarterly
29(1):45–47, 1992. Musk ox muscle was dated at 24,000 years, but hair was dated at 17,000
years. Corrected dates bring the difference in age approximately within the lifespan of a
musk ox. With sloth cave dung, standard carbon dates of the lower layers suggested less
than 2 pellets per year were produced by the sloths. Correcting the dates increased the
number to a more realistic 1.4 per day.
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Figure 3. Likely effect of the Flood and man’s activities on carbon isotopes, which affect carbon dating
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The hourglasses represent radiometric dating. It is assumed that we know the amount of
parent and daughter elements in the original sample, the rate of decay is constant, and
no parent or daughter material has been added or removed.
‘Bad’ dates?
When a ‘date’ differs from that expected, researchers readily invent
excuses for rejecting the result. The common application of such
posterior reasoning shows that radiometric dating has serious problems.
Woodmorappe cites hundreds of examples of excuses used to explain
‘bad’ dates.8
For example, researchers applied posterior reasoning to the dating of
Australopithecus ramidus fossils.9 Most samples of basalt closest to the
fossil-bearing strata gave dates of about 23 Ma (Mega annum, million
years) by the argon-argon method. The authors decided that was ‘too old’,
according to their beliefs about the place of the fossils in the evolutionary
grand scheme of things. So they looked at some basalt further removed
from the fossils and selected 17 of 26 samples to get an acceptable
maximum age of 4.4 Ma. The other nine samples again gave much older
dates but the authors decided they must be contaminated, and discarded
them. That is how radiometric dating works. It is very much driven by
the existing long-age worldview that pervades academia today.
A similar story surrounds the dating of the primate skull known as
KNM-ER 1470.10 This started with an initial 212 to 230 Ma, which,
according to the fossils, was considered way off the mark (humans
‘weren’t around then’). Various other attempts were made to date the
volcanic rocks in the area. Over the years an age of 2.9 Ma was settled
upon because of the agreement between several different published
studies (although the studies involved selection of ‘good’ from ‘bad’
results, just like Australopithecus ramidus).
8. Woodmorappe, J., The Mythology of Modern Dating Methods, Institute for Creation
Research, US, 1999; creation.com/mmdm.
9. WoldeGabriel, G. et al., Ecological and temporal placement of early Pliocene hominids at
Aramis, Ethiopia, Nature 371(6495):330–333, 1994.
10. Lubenow, M., The pigs took it all, Creation 17(3):36–38, 1995; creation.com/pigstook.
What about carbon dating? ~ 73
11. Reed, J.K., Rocks Aren’t Clocks: A critique of the geologic time scale, Creation Book
Publishers, US, 2013; creation.com/rac.
12. Williams, A.R., Long-age isotope dating short on credibility, Journal of Creation 6(1):2–5,
1992; creation.com/isotope-dating.
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13. Snelling, A.A., The cause of anomalous potassium-argon ‘ages’ for recent andesite flows
at Mt. Ngauruhoe, New Zealand, and the implications for potassium-argon ‘dating’, Proc.
4th ICC, pp. 503–525, 1998.
14. Williams, 1992, lists many instances. For example, six cases were reported by
Krummenacher, D., Isotopic composition of argon in modern surface volcanic rocks, Earth
and Planetary Science Letters 8(2):109–117, 1970; five were reported by Dalrymple, G.B.,
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Ar/36Ar analyses of historic lava flows, Earth and Planetary Science Letters 6(1):47–55,
1969. A large excess was reported in Fisher, D.E., Excess rare gases in a subaerial basalt
from Nigeria, Nature Physical Science 232(29):60–61, 1971.
15. Snelling, p. 520, 1998.
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16. The isochron technique involves collecting a number of rock samples from different
parts of the rock unit being dated. The concentration of a parent radioactive isotope,
such as rubidium-87, is graphed against the concentration of a daughter isotope, such as
strontium-87, for all the samples. A straight line is drawn through these points, representing
the ratio of the parent:daughter, from which a ‘date’ is calculated. If the line is of good fit
and the ‘age’ is acceptable it is considered a ‘good’ date. The method involves dividing both
the parent and daughter concentrations by the concentration of a similar stable isotope—in
this case, strontium-86.
17. Austin, S.A. (Ed.), Grand Canyon: Monument to Catastrophe, Institute for Creation
Research, US, pp. 120–131, 1994; creation.com/monument.
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Fossils older than 100,000 years should have too little 14C to measure, but
dating labs consistently find 14C, well above background levels, in fossils
18. Snelling, A.A., Radiometric ‘dating’ in conflict! Creation 20(1):24–27, 1997; creation.
com/basalt-wood.
19. Austin, 1994.
20. Snelling, A.A., The failure of U-Th-Pb ‘dating’ at Koongarra, Australia, Journal of Creation
9(1):71–92, 1995; creation.com/koongarra.
21. Maas, R., Nd-Sr isotope constraints on the age and origin of unconformity-type uranium
deposits in the Alligator Rivers uranium field, Northern Territory, Australia, Economic
Geology 84(1):64–90, 1989.
22. Snelling, 1995.
23. Snelling, 1995.
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24. Giem, P., Carbon-14 content of fossil carbon, Origins 51:6–30, 2001;
grisda.org/origins-51006.
25. Baumgardner, J.R., Snelling, A.S., Humphreys, D.R. and Austin, S.A., Measurable 14C in
fossilized organic materials: confirming the young earth creation-flood model, Proc. 5th
ICC, pp. 127–142, 2003.
26. Baumgardner et al., 2003
27. Baumgardner et al., 2003
28. Baumgardner et al., 2003
29. Lowe, D.C., Problems associated with the use of coal as a source of 14C-free background
material, Radiocarbon 31(2):117–120, 1989.
30. Morris, J., The Young Earth, Master Books, US, 2007; creation.com/tye.
31. Austin, 1994.
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• Red blood cells, proteins, DNA, and carbon-14 have been found in
dinosaur bone. None of these should be present if the bones are over
65 million years old (according to evolutionary dating).32
• Earth’s magnetic field has been decaying so fast that it looks like it
is less than 10,000 years old. Rapid reversals during the Flood year
and fluctuations shortly after would have caused the field energy to
drop even faster.33,34
Cross-section of Grand Canyon geology showing the Kaibab Upwarp. Plastic folding of
strata shows that the layers were still soft when bent, consistent with them all being laid
down quickly—as in Noah’s Flood (after Morris35)—not over hundreds of millions of years.
32. Catchpoole, D., Double-decade dinosaur disquiet, Creation 36(1):12–14, 2014; creation.
com/dino-disquiet.
33. Humphreys, D.R., Reversals of the earth’s magnetic field during the Genesis Flood, Proc.
1st ICC 2:113–126, 1986.
34. Sarfati, J., The earth’s magnetic field: evidence that the earth is young, Creation 20(2):15–
17, 1998; creation.com/magfield.
35. Morris, 2007.
36. Davies, K., Distribution of supernova remnants in the galaxy, Proc. 3 rd ICC,
pp. 175–184, 1994.
37. Sarfati, J., Exploding stars point to a young universe, Creation 19(3):46–48, 1997; creation.
com/snr.
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Orphan radiohalos
Decaying radioactive particles in
solid rock cause spherical zones
of damage in the surrounding
crystal structure. A speck of
43. Only those that undergo alpha decay (releasing a helium nucleus) produce a halo.
44. Gentry, R.V., Creation’s Tiny Mystery, Earth Science Associates, US, 1986 (see references
therein).
45. Snelling, A.A. and Armitage, M.H., Radiohalos—a tale of three granitic plutons, Proc. 5th
ICC, pp. 243–267, 2003.
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46. Woodmorappe, J., The Mythology of Modern Dating Methods, Institute for Creation
Research, US, 1999; creation.com/mmdm.
47. Snelling, A.A., Isochron discordances and the role of inheritance and mixing of
radioisotopes in the mantle and crust; in: Vardiman, L. et al. (Eds.), Radioisotopes and
the Age of the Earth Vol. II, ICR, US and CRS, US, pp. 393–524, 2005.
48. Snelling, A.A., The failure of U-Th-Pb ‘dating’ at Koongarra, Australia, Journal of Creation
9(1):71–92, 1995; creation.com/koongarra.
49. Zheng, Y.F., Influences of the nature of initial Rb-Sr system on isochron validity, Chemical
Geology 80(1):1–16, 1989; p. 14.
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as not being due to age—how can one part of the line be attributed to
age but the other part of the same line be ignored as irrelevant where
it cannot be due to age? Furthermore, even non-radioactive elements
will give nice straight lines when ratios of concentrations are plotted.50
Clearly, such patterns are not due to age at all.
Another popular dating method is the uranium-lead concordia
technique. This effectively combines the two uranium-lead decay series
into one diagram. Results that lie on the curve have the same ‘age’
according to the two lead series and are called ‘concordant’. However,
the results from zircons, for example, generally lie off the concordia
curve—they are discordant (disagree). Numerous models, or stories,
have been developed to explain such inconsistent data.51 However, such
story-telling is not objective science that proves an old Earth.
Dr Snelling has suggested that fractionation (sorting) of elements
in the molten state in Earth’s mantle could be a significant factor in
explaining the ratios of isotope concentrations, which are interpreted as
ages. This would also explain the prevalence of ‘false isochrons’. But
how does a geologist tell a false isochron from a ‘good’ one? Results
that agree with accepted ages are considered ‘good’. This is circular
reasoning and very bad science.
As long ago as 1966, Nobel Prize nominee Melvin Cook, Professor
of Metallurgy at the University of Utah, pointed out evidence that
lead isotope ratios, for example, may involve alteration by important
factors other than radioactive decay.52 Cook noted that in ores from the
Katanga mine there was an abundance of lead-208, a stable isotope, but
no thorium-232 as a source of lead-208. Thorium has a long half-life
(decays very slowly) and is not easily leached out of the rock, so if the
lead-208 came from thorium decay, some thorium should still be there.
Cook suggested that perhaps the lead-208 came about by neutron capture
conversion of lead-206 to lead-207 to lead-208. However, a period
of rapid radioactive decay could also explain the data (see below). In
either case the data are consistent with an age of thousands of years, not
millions of years.
50. Walker, T., The Somerset Dam igneous complex, south-east Queensland, Honours thesis [1st
class Honours or Summa cum laude awarded], Department of Earth Sciences, University of
Queensland, 1998.
51. Gebauer, D. and Grunenfelder, M., U-Th-Pb dating of minerals; in: Jager, E. and Hunziker, J.C.
(Eds.), Lectures in Isotope Geology, Springer Verlag, US, pp. 105–131, 1979.
52. Cook, M.A., Prehistory and Earth Models, Max Parrish, UK, 1966.
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Conclusions
There are many lines of evidence that the radiometric dates are not the
objective evidence for an old Earth that many claim, and that the world
is really only thousands of years old. Although we don’t have all the
answers, we have lots of answers, and we do have the sure testimony of
the Word of God to the true history of the world.
58. Vardiman, L., Austin, S.A., Baumgardner, J.R., Chaffin, E.F., DeYoung, D.B., Humphreys,
D.R. and Snelling, A.A., Radioisotopes and the age of the earth, Proc. 5th ICC, pp. 337–348,
2003.