Chapter 4
Chapter 4
What about
carbon dating?
• How does the carbon ‘clock’ work?
• Is it reliable?
• What does carbon dating really show?
• What about other radiometric dating methods?
• Is there evidence that the Earth is young?
P
EOPLE who ask about carbon-14 (14C) dating usually want to
know about the radiometric1 dating methods that are claimed to
give millions and billions of years—carbon dating can only give
thousands of years. People wonder how millions of years could be
squeezed into the biblical account of history.
Clearly, such huge time periods cannot be fitted into the Bible without
compromising what the Bible says about the goodness of God and the
origin of sin, death and suffering—the reason Jesus came into the world
(see Chapter 2).
Christians, by definition, take the statements of Jesus Christ seriously.
He said, ‘But from the beginning of the creation God made them male
1. Also known as isotope or radioisotope dating.
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and female’ (Mark 10:6). This only makes sense with a time line
beginning with the creation week thousands of years ago. It makes no
sense at all if man appeared at the end of billions of years.
We will deal with carbon dating first and then with the other dating
methods.
Carbon has unique properties that are essential for life on Earth. Familiar
to us as the black substance in charred wood, as diamonds, and as the
graphite in ‘lead’ pencils, carbon comes in several forms, or isotopes.
One rare form has atoms that are 14 times as heavy as hydrogen atoms:
carbon-14, or 14C, or radiocarbon.
Carbon-14 is made when cosmic rays knock neutrons out of atomic
nuclei in the upper atmosphere. These displaced neutrons, now moving
fast, hit ordinary nitrogen (14N) at lower altitudes, converting it into
14
C. Unlike common carbon (12C), 14C is unstable and slowly decays,
changing back into nitrogen and releasing energy. This instability makes
it radioactive.
Ordinary carbon (12C) is found in the carbon dioxide (CO2) in the
air, which is taken up
Upper 14
C
by plants, which in turn atmosphere 14
C in carbon
are eaten by animals. conversion dioxide taken
So a bone, or a leaf of of 14N to 14C up by plants
a tree, or even a piece
of wooden furniture, 14
N
contains carbon. When
Some loss of
14
C has been formed, 14
C by decay
like ordinary carbon
(12C), it combines with
oxygen to give carbon 14C regained as
dioxide (14CO2), and so it animals eat plants
also gets cycled through
the cells of plants and
animals.
14
N
Loss of 14C by
We can take a sample After death: decay and no
of air, count how many replacement
12
C atoms there are for from eating
every 14 C atom, and Figure 1. 14C is gained by living things but lost after
calculate the 14 C/ 12 C death.
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(Decreases
Total carbon-12 and -14 in
14
C with time) C
14
C not
specimen (e.g. wood)
14
14
C measurable
C
12
(amount 12
C 12
C 12
C
constant)
ratio. Because 14C is so well mixed up with 12C, we expect to find that
this ratio is the same if we sample a leaf from a tree, or a part of your
body.
In living things, although 14C atoms are constantly changing back
to N, they are still exchanging carbon with their surroundings, so the
14
2. Today, a stable carbon isotope, 13C, is measured as an indication of the level of discrimination
against 14C.
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3. Radiation from atomic testing, like cosmic rays, causes the conversion of 14N to 14C.
4. Tree ring dating (dendrochronology) has been used in an attempt to extend the calibration
of carbon-14 dating earlier than historical records allow, but this depends on temporal
placement of fragments of wood (from long-dead trees) using carbon-14 dating, assuming
straight-line extrapolation backwards. Then cross-matching of ring patterns is used
to calibrate the carbon ‘clock’—a somewhat circular process which does not give an
independent calibration of the carbon dating system.
5. McDonald, K.L. and Gunst, R.H., 1965. An analysis of the earth’s magnetic field from
1835 to 1965. ESSA Technical Report IER 46-IES, U.S. Government Printing Office,
Washington, D.C., p. 14.
What about carbon dating?~71
→
→
Solar ‘wind’
than in the past. This will make old things look older than they really
are.
Also, the Genesis Flood would have greatly upset the carbon balance.
The Flood buried a huge amount of carbon, which became coal, oil, etc.,
lowering the total 12C in the biosphere (including the atmosphere—plants
regrowing after the Flood absorb CO2 which is not replaced by the decay
of the buried vegetation).6 Total 14C is also proportionately lowered at
this time, but whereas no terrestrial process generates any more 12C, 14C
is continually being produced, and at a rate which does not depend on
carbon levels (it comes from nitrogen). Therefore the 14C level relative
to 12C increases after the Flood. So the 14C/12C ratio in plants/animals/
the atmosphere before the Flood had to be lower than what it is now.
Unless this effect (which is additional to the magnetic field issue
just discussed) were corrected for, carbon dating of fossils formed in the
Flood would give ages much older than the true ages.
Creationist researchers have suggested that dates of 35,000–45,000
years should be recalibrated to the biblical date for the Flood.7 Such a
recalibration makes sense of anomalous data from carbon dating—for
6. Taylor, B.J., 1994. Carbon dioxide in the antediluvian atmosphere. Creation Research
Society Quarterly 30(4):193–197.
7. Brown, R.H., 1992. Correlation of C-14 age with real time. Creation Research Society
Quarterly 29:45–47. Musk ox muscle was dated at 24,000 years, but hair was dated at
17,000 years. Corrected dates bring the difference in age approximately within the life span
of a musk ox. With sloth cave dung, standard carbon dates of the lower layers suggested
less than 2 pellets per year were produced by the sloths. Correcting the dates increased
the number to a more realistic 1.4 per day.
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CO2 concentration
in atmosphere
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ficatio
deserti
g and
clearin CO 2
Ratio 14C : 12C s e
relea
Figure 3. Likely effect of the Flood and man’s activities on carbon isotopes, which affect carbon dating.
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Parent ?
?
?
Daughter ? ?
The hourglasses represent radiometric dating. It is assumed that we know the amount of
parent and daughter elements in the original sample, the rate of decay is constant, and
no parent or daughter material has been added or removed.
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1. The starting conditions are known (for example, that there was no
daughter isotope present at the start, or that we know how much was
there).
2. Decay rates have always been constant.
3. Systems were closed or isolated so that no parent or daughter isotopes
were lost or added.
Isotope concentrations, or ratios, can be measured very
accurately, but isotope concentrations, or ratios,
are not dates.
There is plenty of evidence that the radioisotope dating systems are not
the infallible techniques many think, and that they are not measuring
millions of years. However, there are still patterns to be explained. For
example, deeper rocks often tend to give older ‘ages’. Creationists agree
that the deeper rocks are generally older, but not by millions of years.
Geologist John Woodmorappe, in his devastating critique of radioactive
dating,8 points out that there are other large-scale trends in the rocks that
have nothing to do with radioactive decay.
‘Bad’ dates?
8. Woodmorappe, J., 1999. The Mythology of Modern Dating Methods, Institute for Creation
Research, San Diego, California.
9. WoldeGabriel, G., et al., 1994. Ecological and temporal placement of early Pliocene
hominids at Aramis, Ethiopia. Nature 371:330–333.
What about carbon dating?~75
acceptable maximum age of 4.4 Ma. The other nine samples again gave
much older dates but the authors decided they must be contaminated,
and discarded them. That is how radiometric dating works. It is very
much driven by the existing long-age worldview that pervades academia
today.
A similar story surrounds the dating of the primate skull known as
KNM-ER 1470.10,11 This started with an initial 212 to 230 Ma, which,
according to the fossils, was considered way off the mark (humans
‘weren’t around then’). Various other attempts were made to date the
volcanic rocks in the area. Over the years an age of 2.9 Ma was settled
upon because of the agreement between several different published
studies (although the studies involved selection of ‘good’ from ‘bad’
results, just like Australopithecus ramidus).
However, preconceived notions about human evolution could not
cope with a skull like 1470 being ‘that old’. A study of pig fossils in
Africa readily convinced most anthropologists that the 1470 skull was
much younger. After this was widely accepted, further studies of the
rocks brought the radiometric age down to about 1.9 Ma—again several
studies ‘confirmed’ this date. Such is the dating game.
Are we suggesting that evolutionists are conspiring to massage the
data to get the answers they want? No, not generally. It is simply that all
observations must fit the prevailing paradigm. The paradigm, or belief
system, of molecules-to-man evolution over eons of time, is so strongly
entrenched it is not questioned—it is a ‘fact’. So every observation must
fit this paradigm. Unconsciously, the researchers, who are supposedly
‘objective scientists’ in the eyes of the public, select the observations to
fit the basic belief system.
We must remember that the past is not open to the normal processes
of experimental science; that is, repeatable experiments in the present.
A scientist cannot do experiments on events that happened in the past.
Scientists do not measure the age of rocks, they measure isotope con-
centrations, and these can be measured extremely accurately. However,
the ‘age’ is calculated using assumptions about the past that cannot be
proven.
We should remember God’s admonition to Job, ‘Where were you
when I laid the foundations of the earth?’ (Job 38:4).
10. Lubenow, M., 1995. The pigs took it all. Creation 17(3):36–38.
11. Lubenow, M., 1993. Bones of Contention, Baker Books, Grand Rapids, Michigan, pp.
247–266.
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There are many examples where the dating methods give ‘dates’ that
are wrong for rocks of known age. One example is K-Ar ‘dating’ of
five historical andesite lava flows from Mt Ngauruhoe in New Zealand.
Although one lava flow occurred in 1949, three in 1954, and one in 1975,
the ‘dates’ ranged from less than 0.27 to 3.5 Ma.13
12. Williams, A.R., 1992. Long-age isotope dating short on credibility. CEN Tech. J. 6(1):2–
5.
13. Snelling, A.A., 1998. The cause of anomalous potassium-argon ‘ages’ for recent andesite
flows at Mt. Ngauruhoe, New Zealand, and the implications for potassium-argon ‘dating’.
Proc. 4th ICC, pp. 503–525.
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14. Ref. 13 lists many instances. For example, six cases were reported by Krummenacher,
D., 1970. Isotopic composition of argon in modern surface rocks. Earth and Planetary
Science Letters 8:109–117; five were reported by Dalrymple, G.B., 1969. 40Ar/36Ar analysis
of historic lava flows. Earth and Planetary Science Letters 6:47–55. A large excess was
reported in Fisher, D.E., 1970. Excess rare gases in a subaerial basalt from Nigeria. Nature
232:60–61.
15. Ref. 13, p. 520.
16. The isochron technique involves collecting a number of rock samples from different parts
of the rock unit being dated. The concentration of a parent radioactive isotope, such as
rubidium-87, is graphed against the concentration of a daughter isotope, such as strontium-
87, for all the samples. A straight line is drawn through these points, representing the ratio
of the parent:daughter, from which a ‘date’ is calculated. If the line is of good fit and the
‘age’ is acceptable it is considered a ‘good’ date. The method involves dividing both the
parent and daughter concentrations by the concentration of a similar stable isotope—in
this case, strontium-86. See pp. 79–80.
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Geologist Dr Steve Austin sampled basalt from the base of the Grand
Canyon strata and from lava that spilled over the edge of the canyon.17
By evolutionary reckoning, the latter should be a billion years younger
than the basalt from the bottom. Standard laboratories analysed the
isotopes. The rubidium-strontium isochron technique suggested that the
recent lava flow was 270 Ma older than the basalts beneath the Grand
Canyon—an impossibility.
Method ‘Age’
Six potassium-argon model ages 10,000 years to 117 Ma
Five rubidium-strontium ages 1,270–1,390 Ma
Rubidium-strontium isochron 1,340 Ma
Lead-lead isochron 2,600 Ma
Radiometric ‘ages’, using different methods, for basaltic rocks most geologists ac-
cept as only thousands of years old, from the Uinkaret Plateau of the Grand Canyon
(Ma = millions of years).17
17. Austin, S.A. (ed.) 1994. Grand Canyon: Monument to Catastrophe. Institute for Creation
Research, Santee, California, pp. 120–131.
18. Snelling, A.A., 1998. Radiometric dating in conflict. Creation 20(1):24–27.
What about carbon dating?~79
19. Snelling, A.A., 1995. The failure of U-Th-Pb ‘dating’ at Koongarra, Australia. Journal of
Creation 9(1):71–92.
20. Maas, R., 1989. Nd-Sr isotope constraints on the age and origin of unconformity-type
uranium deposits in the Alligator Rivers Uranium Field, Northern Territory, Australia.
Economic Geology 84:64–90.
21. Giem, P., 2001. Carbon-14 content of fossil carbon. Origins 51:6–30.
22. Baumgardner, J.R., Snelling, A.S., Humphreys, D.R., and Austin, S.A., 2003. Measurable
14
C in fossilized organic materials: confirming the young earth creation-flood model.
Proc. 5th ICC pp. 127–142.
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Of the methods that have been used to estimate the age of the Earth, 90%
point to an age far less than the billions of years asserted by evolutionists.
A few of them:
• Evidence for rapid formation of geological strata, as in the biblical
Flood. Some of the evidences are: lack of erosion between rock
layers supposedly separated in age by many millions of years; lack of
disturbance of rock strata by biological activity (worms, roots, etc.);
lack of soil layers; polystrate fossils (which traverse several rock
layers vertically—these could not have stood vertically for eons of
time while they slowly got buried); thick layers of ‘rock’ bent without
fracturing, indicating that the rock was all soft when bent; and more.
See Chapter 15 (pp. 183–186) and books by geologists Morris24 and
Austin.17
Cross-section of Grand Canyon geology showing the Kaibab upwarp. Plastic folding of
strata shows that the layers were still soft when bent, consistent with them all being laid
down quickly—as in Noah’s Flood (after Morris24).
23. Lowe, D.C., 1989. Problems associated with the use of coal as a source of 14C free
background material. Radiocarbon 31:117–120.
24. Morris, J., 1994. The Young Earth. Creation-Life Publishers, Colorado Springs,
Colorado.
What about carbon dating?~81
25. Wieland, C., 1997. Sensational dinosaur blood report! Creation 19(4):42–43, based on
Schweitzer, M. and Staedter, T., 1997. The real Jurassic Park. Earth, June, pp. 55–57.
26. Humphreys, D.R., 1986. Reversals of the earth’s magnetic field during the Genesis Flood.
Proc. First ICC 2:113–126.
27. Sarfati, J.D., 1998. The earth’s magnetic field: evidence that the earth is young. Creation
20(2):15–19.
28. Davies, K., 1994. Distribution of supernova remnants in the galaxy. Proc. 3rd ICC,
pp. 175–184.
29. Sarfati, J.D., 1998. Exploding stars point to a young universe. Creation 19(3):46–49.
30. Walker, T., Eroding ages, Creation 22(2):18–21, March–May 2000; <creation.com/
erosion>.
31. Roth, A., 1998. Origins: Linking Science and Scripture, Review and Herald Publishing,
Hagerstown, p. 271, cites Dott and Batten, Evolution of the Earth, McGraw-Hill, NY, USA,
p. 155, 1988, and a number of others.
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• Salt is entering the sea much faster than it is escaping. The sea is
not nearly salty enough for this to have been happening for billions
of years. Even granting generous assumptions to evolutionists, such
as the sea having no salt to start with, the sea could not be more
than 62 Ma old—far younger than the billions of years believed by
evolutionists. Again, this indicates a maximum age, not the actual
age.32,33
Dr Russell Humphreys gives other processes inconsistent with
billions of years in the booklet Evidence for a Young World.
However, creationists cannot prove the age of the Earth using a
particular scientific method, any more than evolutionists can. They
realize that all science is tentative because we do not have all the data,
especially when dealing with the past. This is true of both creationist and
evolutionist scientific arguments—evolutionists have had to abandon
many ‘proofs’ for evolution just as creationists have also had to modify
their arguments. The atheistic evolutionist W.B. Provine admitted:
‘Most of what I learned of the field [evolutionary biology] in graduate
(1964–68) school is either wrong or significantly changed.’34
Creationists understand the limitations of dating methods better
than evolutionists who claim that they can use processes observed in
the present to ‘prove’ that Earth is billions of years old. In reality, all
dating methods, including those that point to a young Earth, rely on
unprovable assumptions.
Creationists ultimately date the Earth historically using the
chronology of the Bible. This is because they believe that this is an
accurate eyewitness account of world history, which bears the evidence
within it that it is the Word of God, and therefore totally reliable and
error-free (see Chapter 1 for some of the evidences).
Orphan radiohalos
32. Austin S.A. and Humphreys, D.R., 1990. The sea’s missing salt: a dilemma for evolutionists.
Proc. 2nd ICC pp. 17–33.
33. Sarfati, J.D., 1999. Salty seas: Evidence for a young earth. Creation 21(1):16–17.
34. A review of Teaching about Evolution and the Nature of Science (National Academy
of Science USA, 1998) by Dr Will B. Provine, online at <http://fp.bio.utk.edu/darwin/
NAS_guidebook/provine_1.html>, 18 Feb. 1999.
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35. Only those that undergo alpha decay (releasing a helium nucleus) produce a halo.
36. Gentry, R.V., 1986. Creation’s Tiny Mystery, Earth Science Associates, Knoxville, Tennessee
(see references therein).
37. Snelling, A.A. and Armitage, M.H., 2003. Radiohalos—a tale of three granitic plutons.
Proc. 5th ICC pp. 243–267.
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circular reasoning, and story telling to fit the preconceived ideas of the
researchers.8
The isochron dating technique16 was once thought to be infallible
because it supposedly covered the assumptions about starting condi-
tions and closed systems. Geologist Dr Andrew Snelling reported on
‘dating’ of the Koongarra uranium deposits in the Northern Territory of
Australia, primarily using the lead-lead isochron method.38 He found
that even 113 highly weathered soil samples from the area, which are
definitely not closed systems (leaching of parent and daughter isotopes
would invalidate the ‘dates’), gave a very nice looking ‘isochron’ line
with an ‘age’ of 1,445±20 Ma. Other methods gave ‘ages’ ranging from
even higher to all the way down to zero years.
Such ‘false isochrons’ are so common that a whole terminology has
grown up to describe them, such as apparent isochron, mantle isochron,
pseudoisochron, secondary isochron, inherited isochron, erupted iso-
chron, mixing line and mixing isochron. Zheng wrote:
‘… some of the basic assumptions of the conventional Rb-Sr
[rubidium-strontium] isochron method have to be modified and an
observed isochron does not certainly define valid age information
for a geological system, even if a goodness of fit of the experimental
results is obtained in plotting 87Sr/86Sr against 87Rb/86Sr. This
problem cannot be overlooked, especially in evaluating the
numerical time scale. Similar questions can also arise in applying
Sm-Nd [samarium-neodymium] and U-Pb [uranium-lead] isochron
methods.’39
Even with ‘isochrons’, part of the isochron line is interpreted
as not being due to age—how can one part of the line be attributed to
age but the other part of the same line be ignored as irrelevant where
it cannot be due to age? Furthermore, even non-radioactive elements
will give nice straight lines when ratios of concentrations are plotted.40
Clearly, such patterns are not due to age at all.
Another popular dating method is the uranium-lead concordia
technique. This effectively combines the two uranium-lead decay
series into one diagram. Results that lie on the concordia curve have the
same ‘age’ according to the two lead series and are called ‘concordant’.
38. Snelling, A.A., 1985. The Failure of U-Th-Pb ‘Dating’ at Koongarra, Australia. TJ 9(1):72–92.
39. Zheng, Y.F., 1989. Influence of the nature of initial Rb-Sr system on isochron validity. Chemical
Geology 80:1–16 (p. 14).
40. Walker, T., The Somerset Dam igneous complex, south-east Queensland, Honours thesis [1st class
Honours or Summa cum laude awarded], Dept of Earth Sciences, Uni. of Queensland, 1998.
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However, the results from zircons, for example, generally lie off the
concordia curve—they are discordant (disagree). Numerous models,
or stories, have been developed to explain such data.41 However, such
story-telling is not objective science that proves an old Earth.
Dr Snelling has suggested that fractionation (sorting) of elements
in the molten state in the Earth’s mantle could be a significant factor in
explaining the ratios of isotope concentrations which are interpreted as
ages. This would also explain the prevalence of ‘false isochrons’. But
how does a geologist tell a false isochron from a ‘good’ one? Results
that agree with accepted ages are considered ‘good’. This is circular
reasoning and very bad science.
As long ago as 1966, Nobel Prize nominee Melvin Cook, Professor
of Metallurgy at the University of Utah, pointed out evidence that lead
isotope ratios, for example, may involve alteration by important factors
other than radioactive decay.42 Cook noted that in ores from the Katanga
mine there was an abundance of lead-208, a stable isotope, but no Tho-
rium-232 as a source of lead-208. Thorium has a long halflife (decays very
slowly) and is not easily leached out of the rock, so if the lead-208 came
from thorium decay, some thorium should still be there. Cook suggested
that perhaps the lead-208 came about by neutron capture conversion of
lead-206 to lead-207 to lead-208. However, a period of rapid radioactive
decay could also explain the data (see below). In either case the data are
consistent with an age of thousands of years, not millions of years.
Physicist Dr Robert Gentry has pointed out that the amount of helium
(helium derives from the decay of radioactive elements, such as uranium)
in zircons from deep (hot) bores is not consistent with an evolutionary age
of 1,500 Ma for the granite rocks in which they are found.36 The amount
of lead corresponds with current rates of decay of uranium acting over
the assumed timescale, but almost all the helium formed should have
diffused out of the crystals in that time. The diffusion rates of helium
have now been measured and they are very high (100,000 times greater
than evolutionary geologists had assumed), so the helium should not
be there if the radioactive decay had been going on at present rates for
41. Gebauer, D. and Grunenfelder, M., 1979. U-Th-Pb dating of minerals. In Jager , E. and Hunziker,
J.C. (eds). Lectures in Isotope Geology, Springer Verlag, New York, 105–131.
42. Cook, M.A., 1966. Prehistory and Earth Models, Max Parrish, London, 353 pp.
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Conclusions
There are many lines of evidence that the radiometric dates are not the
objective evidence for an old Earth that many claim, and that the world
is really only thousands of years old. Although we don’t have all the
answers, we have lots of answers, and we do have the sure testimony of
the Word of God to the true history of the world.
43. Humphreys, R.D., Austin, S.A., Baumgardner, J.R. and Snelling, A.A., 2003. Helium
diffusion rates support accelerated nuclear decay. Proc. 5th ICC, Pittsburg, pp.175–195.
44. Baumgardner, J., Distribution of radioactive isotopes in the earth, ch. 3 in Vardiman, L.,
Snelling, A.A. and Chaffin, E.F. (eds), 2000. Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth,
Institute for Creation Research and Creation Research Society, USA.
45. Vardiman, L., Austin, S.A., Baumgardner, J.R., Chaffin, E.F., DeYoung, D.B., Humphreys,
D.R. and Snelling, A.A., 2003. Radioisotopes and the age of the earth. Proc. 5th ICC
pp. 337–348.