SUB LORD

SPEAKS
PART -1

BY
Late Prof. K.M. SUBRAMANIAM

Edited by
Sothidamamani
K. SUBRAMANIAM
S/o. Sothida M::)nnan. Jyothish Marthand
(Late) Prof K.S. KRISHNAMURTI
 Sree Maha Ganapathaye Namaha!

PREFACE

"SUBLORD" SPEAKS!!
Yes. In our K.P. System, the SUBLORD always speaks. The cuspal
sublords decide the fate of the Native in a chart. The starlord indicates
the significators of the part cular Bhava, and the SUBLORD, ie. Planetary
sublords indicates whether it is beneficial or not. In timing of the events ~·
this sublord, along with CUSPAL Sublord gives clue to the Astrologer,
for a correct future prediction

This book, under the caption SUBLORD Speaks, was written by

Mr. K.M. Subramaniam (Late) of Perambur and a senior most K.P
Scholar in the Magazine K.P. and Astrology., As C losely related to me,
he often use to discuss the Nature ofSUBLORDS with me before writing
each article. In my research, not only planetary sublord, but, the cuspal
sublords also plays a major role in predictive portion of K.P. system in
the absence of Planets in their stars. Without SUB LORDS there is no
K.P. system.

I strongly recommend this book to all practising Astrologers. K.P

Students and research scholars to master their knowledge in our K.P.
system. I thank Mr. K. Subramaniam, Krishman & Co, for bringing out
this publication in great memory of Shri. K.M.S. and the blessings of
(late) sh ri . K.M. Subramaniam will always be there to him.

With great respects to our Great Guruji Shri. K.S.K., I end my words.
Chennai 600 l 00
Dated: 27.08.2007
GOOD LUCK

Prof: VAIKARI .RAMAMURTHY

Prof: VAlKARl- RAMAMURTHY

PLOT No X, DOOR No. 211088, RADHA NAGAR,
PERUMBAKKAM (Near Sowmy Nagar Sai Saba Temple),
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 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

Isua • LORD 5-P-EA_K_s____ J

Krishnamurthi Padhdhathi tells that the result of a planet is

obtained through the status ofthe constellation lord. Suppose there
are two planets in the same constellation, then there can be som
modification in obtaining the result So, to assess the correct result,
Sri KSK had divided the constellation in a manner and called it a
sub, in the proportion in which they are allotted the total number of
years in Vunshottari Dasa System.
The longitude ofeach constellation is 13°-20', equal to 800
minutes. Therefore, in evezy constellation of800 minutes, each planet
will have an area equal to the number ofyears allotted to each in the
DASAmultiplied by 6 2/3 minutes. Therefore"Stm's sub extends to
40 minutes, Mars and Ketu extend for 46 2/3 minutes, Moon
extends for 1'-6 2/3' minutes, Moon extends for 1'-6 2/3, Rahu
extends for exactly 2°, Jupiter has an area of 1'-46-40 ", MereU!)'
1°-53 1/3' Saturn 2°-6 2/3. and Venus 2°-13 '-20", Whatever is
the constellation.
And also, Sri KSK emphasised that what matter actually one
will enjoy or experience, depends on the lord of the constellation;
but these can be felt with deviation in the result, in terms of the
signification ofthe lord ofthe sub tenented by the concerned planet.
It is also imperative to note, that it is the SUB lord which
decides whether the results as obtained through the constellation
lord, is favourable or unfavourble and any departure from it.
altogether.
The planet is the sourc~. the house \.iCC\.Ipied (lf owned. shows
the nature of the results to be experienced.
"According to the postulates ofKrishnamurthi Padhdhathi,as
KSK's son Sri Ganapathy put it, that when a planet lies in a certain

K.rishnamurti Padhdhati
constellation, it is modified by the planet that presides over the
constellation. The planet is not only coloured by the constellation
lord but also by the sub division ofthe constellation, according to
the signification'ofthe sub-lord by house-lordship and occupation;
and so the sub division has an important role in modifying and even
deviating in the matter, as obtained by the star lord."At many times
it had been noticed that planets in a constellation indicating a certain
matter, do not necessarily repeat the indicated results, and on the
contrary they bring about a quite different matter, in terms ofthe
signification ofthe stib-lord. To substantiate this, let me discuss the
horoscope ofmy friend's wife, Srimathi K., hereunder:-
Date ofbirth :31-3-1952
(Monday /Tuesday)
Tll'm 4.20 a.m., 1ST
Place ofbirth Chennai, 13°-4'/80°-17'

Mercury
(R) Moon 2-26
25-29
Jup. 0-14 IV 20-20 v 16-20
III 22-20
II 20-45
~~.·ts~£1
I (Asc.) VI 13-20
15-21 NIRAYANA
Rahu 5-34 BHAVAChakram
S.T. : 16-48-06
Mars Period at Birth:
Xlll3-20 Kethu 5-34.
2 yrs. 2 mths. 10 days
VII15-21

Mars (R) Saturn (R)

XI 16-20 X 20-20
25-08 18-35
IX 22-20 Vlll20-45
I

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 I Venus

III Saturn IX sannn

IV Ketu X Venus
v Venus XI Moon
VI Rahu XII Rahu

Jupiter Ketu

In this birth chart, you might notice that Rahu period was over
by June, 1972 and by then the girl had completed her 20 years of
age and not got married.
Rahu, by its star lord, signifies IX, ill, and X having no planets
in its star, Rahu again get Xllth signification also, not conducive to
bring about marriage, more so Rahu being in the subofMoon owning
VI and signifying IX and X again, inspite of Rahu, as node,
representing Saturn a full significator ofVII (note there is no planet
tenenting the stars of Saturn), so marriage did not come up.
Then came the major period ofJupiter and it was from her
20th year and 35th year of age (from June, 1972 to June, 1988).
JL:piter is in the lind bha\'am and O\\'TIS 11 and XL t urther Jupiter is
in the star ofKetu in Leo, and Vllth cusp falls there in Leo at 15°-
15'-20.' So Ketu, as node, represents Sun and Vllth bhavam also.
Though Jupiter in a way gets the Vllth signification also, being placed

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 3
in Ketu sub and Ketu being in its own star in Vlth bhavam, fully
signifies the detriment status for marriage. So her marriage did not
come up in Jupiter period also.
On 21-6-1988 started the major period of Saturn.
Saturn, having no Planet in its stars, is posited in Vllth bhavam,
as such fully signifies VII.
Through star it signifies IV and VI, of course, a detriment
status for marriage.
But Saturn apart from its Vllth signification, being in the sub
ofMercury, a full significator ofii, and V got her married on 19-8-
1988, in its own anthara itself. It was a Friday and Swathi star day
(Thula Rasi) both ruled by Venus in terms ofthe Sub-Lord ofthe
Vllthcusp.

Now we are discussing a more crucial matter:

As you all know how, that Saturn being posited in the star of
Moon in IV, in Saturn period, one cannot expect a child, more so in
the bukthi itself. The bukthi ends by 24-6-91.
But she conceived in the bukthi itselfand delivered a male
baby on 29-10-1989, in the Swathi star day (Thula Rasi owned by
Venus). How is it, there is a child birth in the period, and bukthi of
Saturn a full IVth significator? (IV this the vrayasthana for Vth
which stands for progeny.)
Here the Sub-Lord speaks
Of course that star lord position of IVth got her a good
workshop, which was under litigation, got cleared through Court of
its encumbrances, owing to its Vlth signification. This is the star lord
status of Saturn, which set right the working ofthe work-shop.
Now look into the sub lord of Sarum. It is Mercury. Mercury
is in lind bhavam in its own star Revathi, owns Vth and VIIIth; no
planets in vth bhavam, and in Villth bhavam.

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 So Mercury attains a full signification ofll, V, and Vlll and
Mercury is the sub lord of the Dasa and Bukthinatha Saturn. Despite
the fact that the Dasa lord Saturn being a full significator ofl, VII,
and IV detriment houses for child-bearing its colour got changed
through the power of Sub ofgive its significations c{II and Vth, the
matter being progeny, and financ e, and Kutumbha Vridhi. VIIIth
signification did not bring about any surgical matter during birth.
Why? The Vlllth cusp Sub lord is Venus a full signifiator ofl, II~
and XI as such the Villth bhava is negated to give accidental and
surgical matters and on the contrary will give sudden money flow,
through wills.
She has a male baby born on 29-10-1989 in Thula Rasi in
terms ofthe sub lord ofthe Vth cusp, being Venus, as the birth star
of the baby being Swathi.
This Article is mainly to stress the point that sub has a better
say in assessing the matter, even if the star lord does not indicate
such matters, as discussed above.
All the praises must go to our late Guruji Sri KSK. , who had
invented this predictive system with the blessings ofLord Uchishta
Maha Ganapathi.
Good Luck

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 5
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

[ SUB - LORD SPEAKS I

Under the above caption, I have extracted the lines of Sri K.
Ganapathi, S/o sri KSK how he emphaised the impact ofthe Sub
Lord and how its significations altered that main significations ofthe
star lord into benefic or malefic manner as in tenns ofits significations.
An example birth chart was also discussed in a detailed way,
substantiating the same. As I am meeting many a student ofKP
whose usual complaint is that the signification ofVll and XI did not
help to fructify the marriage and VI and X has not brought service
too often.
To explain this, I shall again reproduce some ofthe golden
lines of our be lo ved Guruji, Sri KSK in this connection. He was
very emphatic in telling ho w the prediction should be given only
after looking into the Sub Lord where the planet lUlder observation
is stationed: - (KP Reader No. Ill).
"Constellation needs consideration. The sign is not very
important The bouse occupied by a planet should be judged, taking
in which constellation the planet is posited. The role ofthe sign
occupied by a planet is not so important, as that ofthe constellations."
. "So..a planet' N offers the results of the house occupied by
that planet 'B' which is the lord ofthe star wherein this planet ' N is
deposited."
"Again trouble arose when 2, 3, or 4 planets are foWld in the
same constellation, as all the planets in the same star, though referring
the same matters, yet gave diametrically opposite resul ts."
"This made me to think further and caused me to further carry
on the research. I found that every constellation must be divided in
the manner I have said, in 9 subs of each sub having that area in a

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constellation in the proportion in which they are allotted the number
ofyears in Vimshottari Dasa."
"I proved that planets occupying anyone constellation has
connection with the BHAVA occupied by the lord ofthe constellation.
Those planets in that constellation are termed as the
SIGNIFICATORS of that Bhava occupied by the Lord of the
constellation."
"Thus if one works out for all the planets, then each planet is
folUld to signify the matters ofa few houses."
"Then judge each planet."
"The planet signifies a matter, Whether it votes for the progress
and prosperity ofthat matter or due to the Sub-lord it is not capable
of doing good, further it does harm to that bhava signified by the
planet, is to be studied."
"Ifa planet is the significator ofLagna Bhava it gives long life .
success in attempts, it helps to maintain good health, at the same
time ifthe Sub-lord is not the significator of VI, or VIII, or XII."
"Ifthe Sub-lord ofthat planet signifies Vlth house, he falls ill;
if sublord signifies VIII, he meets with danger, and ifXII one runs
away, or impriso ned or hospitalised."
"Therefore, constellation lord shows whom or which matters
if refers. But the deciding factor, good or bad, success or failure, is
shown by the SUB occupied by the significator."
',
I have various instance to quote and to substantiate the above
lines ofour Guruji Sri KSK., and I shall be writing with details in the·
colunms-<Jf.KP & Astrology in. future.
Now I take up two birth charts for di scussion:
1. Birth chart of Mr. N.M.
Date ofBirth 27-2-1945
Tmle Night 12-20 (Old time)
Tuesday night
Place ofBirth Madras, 13°-4 '/80°- 17'

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 7
 III Rahu IX Rahu
IV Kett1 X Venus
v Mercury XI Saturn
VI Moon XII Venus

Mars Saturn Rahu Saturn

Mercury Kern Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Rahu

Saturn (R)
10-53
Ven. 29-51 IV 17-9 VII 13-29 VII 12-9
v 17-9 Rahu22-46

'
Sun 15-50
IV 15-9 IX 13-9
Mere. 14-15 NIRAYANA BHAVA
CHAKRAM ..
Venus Per iod Ba la nce
Mars 17-1 9 a t Birt h X 15-9
Ill 13-9 J yrs. 3 mt hs. 18 da ys Moon 24-28

Kethu 22-46 Jup. 1-13

II 12-9 Asc. 13-29 XII 17-9
IX 17-9

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 If you look sharp and observe the signification of MARS
obtained,through stellar status, they are Lagna, III, VI, and X. It is
an envious combination, and one should attain in this period ofMars
from June 1964 to June 1971 good service status with high salary, a
big recognised struidard oflife with environmental status.
Nothing Happened and he of course, served in an industry as
a Turner with an ordiruny income and it abruptly ended in the bukthi
ofMoonduring 1971.
Now you look back and go through tpe lines ofour late Prof.
Sri KSK. He said that the signification of the planet through
constellation lord tells the matters only and the SUB - Lord decides,
in tenns ofhis benefic or malefic significations.
Here the sub-lord is Saturn; and Saturn attains the signification
ofVill mainly and VII also as there is no planet in its stars, In terms
ofthis there was no financial progress and he suffered vicissitudes
also.
.Then he entered the major period ofRahu on 15-6-1971 for
18 years. Rahu is in Villth there are planets in the stars ofRahu and
Rahu is in the star ofJupiter in X owning IT and V, There are planets
in II and V.
Hence Rahu signifies X fully and II and V feebly. So the native
ofthis birth chart should have had occupational income and status
all through Rahu period.
No is the answer.
He had neither regular service to tell, nor any good business
life to reckon with. He had his head- in many a. business life with no
purpose and no positive results, except involving himself in heavy
debts.
To put it in a line, I can say that it was a abrren period, all
through. .

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 9
 What is the reason?

Now look for the Sub-lord ofRahu. It is Saturn again.

Saturn is in VII and no planets in its stars and it is
in the star of Rahu..in Vfll. Hence _Saturn signifies VII
and VIII.
•.

The occupational life ended in failure and was with vicisSitudes.

But he had enough public contacts, with a reputation as the Xth
signifiCation ofRahu worked through Vllth. So many public contact
duly commanding respect, with an impact on his knowledge. So the
Xth signifiation ofRahu has worked out for him as a successful
public persons in terms ofVllth but with no retwns also in terms of
Vlllth signification.

From 15-6-1989 the major period ofJupiter is on and it is

for 16 years.

Jupiter is in Xth bhavam and there is Rahu in its star & Jupiter
is in the star of Sun inN owing X.

So Jupiter gets the Xth- and IVth significations through

constellation lord.

Will this Xth and Nth signification work well? So look into
the Sub-Lord ofthe Dasa Lord Jupiter. It is Rahu.

Rahu is again in the star of Jupiter in X and this promises

successful and benefic way oflife through Jupiter period. Actually
by June or July of 1989,Jhe case .P.,~!lding on his workshop got
cleared ofall the encumbr~ce and he got good financial support
concurrently and he re-started his.indu~try and running very well~
yielding him good, regular income, duly giving him a general boost
in his life.

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 · I am taking up another birth chart to emphasiz the idea that
more credence to be given to SUB-LORD before venturing a
prediction.
The following is the horoscope ofMr. S:
Date of birth : 26-1-1920 (Monday)
TJIIX: : 7-58 a.m.; IST

Place ofbirth : Poonamallee (Chennai);

13°.:4 '/80°/17'

Fortuna
Moon 1-2-36 V6-44
10-0-11 IV 10-44
Ill 11-44
ll8-44 Kethu 28-18

As c. VI 3-44
3-27-47 NIRAYANABHAVA Jupiter (R)
CHAKARAM 21-28
Balance in Saturn
Sun 12-06
Period at Birth 9 yrs: VII 3-27-47
Mercury
5'M's ; 26 days Saturn (R)
4-51
17-55
Xll3-44
XI 6-44 Rahu 28-18
Venus Vlll
X 10-44 IX 11-44 8-44
3-09 Mars 4-59

Mars Sun Rahu Venus

Mercury Satunr Kctu Moon
Jupiter Venus

K.rishnamurti Padhdhati 11
 IV Moon S1n1
v Rahu XI Rahu
VI Saturn XII Saturn

In this birth chart Mercury and Ketu are in the star Uthiradam
and Krithigai respectively. All KP followers know well that both the
stars are owned by Sun.
Hence Sllil is the constellation lo rd ofboth Mercury and Kethu
and it is deposited in the XIIth bhavarn and owns Vllth.
So both periods ofMercury and Ketu should have been bad,
in terms of the significations ofMercury and Ketu being XII and
VIL These periods must have given him serious trou bles, high
expenditure out weighing his income, serious opposition,
mac hanisation of secret foes.
He was running the major peri od of Mercury from July 29 to ··
July46.
In this period he was the owner of good landed property
worth mentioning with high yield ofpaddy. A big house to live in,
happy kutumbharn with calm atmosphere. No shortfall in fmance.
Then how is it when Mercury is a full significator ofXII and VII?

Here the Sub-Lord speaks.

Nov..: look into the Sub-Lord ofMe rcury. It i ~ Saturn, a full
significator of X _ap.d IV.
The powerful signification ofX and IV has sustained his status
. and he was a reputed landlord, with high and regular yield from his
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fields and thus the occupational status was enj oyed by him. Further
in the ye3f 1945, when Saturn bhukthi was on, he had the luck and
hounourofbeing called for by Government to sit as Jury in Sessions
Court at Chenglepet.
Also that as Saturn a full significator of X and IV, in his bukthi
he had social troubles also duly involving him.indirectly in criminal
case in terms ofthe Sub-lord ofSaturn being Mars, a full significator
ofVIII, but overall not affecting his general status in the village and
on the contrary he was looked at with awe, in terms of the xth
signification ofMars the Sub lord of Saturn. He was well protected
and supported against odds. Summing up the entire periods of
Mercury was a good one with high income, good and peaceful family
life with a child, high esteem in society, and also in Governmental
sphere.
The Xllth signification ofMercury in vo lved him in secret
criminal dealings with village folk, but the status ofthe Sub lord has
converted the same XIIthe mater into an air ofinfluence, giving him
a status ofleadership in the village, in a manner.
Then he entered the major Dasa ofKetu from July, 1946 and
it was for 7 years.
As already pointed out in earlier paras both Mercury and
ketu are stationed in the star of Sun being Uthiradam and Krithi.gai
respectively.
Hence Ketu also attains the signifi cation ofXII & VII in terms
ofthe constellation lord sun.
The malefic matters of Sun expected out of significations of
XII and VII through starlord got averted by the Sub lord Satum
with benefic significations of X and IV during Merucury major
period. But Ketu obtaining the same significations ofXII and VII
through its starlord Sun being in Krithigai, could not be contained

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 13
with and the native suffered untold sufferings, unfolding all the bad
matters ofXll and VII bhavas. .
He, in the beginning ofthe period lost his belov.ed child, duly
followed, ofcourse by a happy matter of a female baby being born.
The same secret involvement, with criminals and rustic village folk
started during Mereury period, now in Ketu period landed him in
open enemities, extreme wasteful expenditure, over and above his
income, resulting in debts accruing.
In the bukthl of Jupiter he lost his young and beloved wife,
during 1949, leaving behind a very young child of2 years old, under
his care, binding him with responsibility.
And soon after within a month, got himselfentangled in a
village matter, which cornered him to that extentofleaving his native
village in a hush overnight, culminating into the loss ofall his parental
asets for an unjustified value, with the result he looked very small in
the eyes ofhis relatives.'
Mercury in his period with the same significations ofXn and
VII give him alround happiness and social status. Why? It is the
Sublord Saturn, having benefic signification ofX and IV.
Now the quite opposite happenings in the period ofKetu
with the same signification ofxll and Vll through star lord Sun and
these malefic matters of XII and VII could not be controlled as
Ketu the Dasa lord in the Sub of Moon, why?
Moon is in II, but there are olanets in Moon stars. So he
does not signify n.
Moon is in the star of Saturn in VII owing XII and I. So
Moon fully signifies VII. XII, and I also.
So Ketu could not contain itselfwithout troubling the native,
to the extent oflosing his entire paternal properties, l~ving his birth

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 place for ever, owing to the ruthless open enemities. The Lagna
signification ofthe Sublord Moon retrieved his lost status to a meagre
·extent, by giving him in Saturn bukthi, a service in railways, though
the pompus status is once and for all gone.
The Lagna signification ofthe Sublord gave him a secret support
of some people in the village to fi ght against his opponent, as he
decided to-withdraw from the scene on moral grounds. No body
could lay hands on him, even though he was with a meagre support.
By this, the followers and students ofKP can well be sure that the
Sublord speaks more emphatically and decides the matter in terms
ofhis significations only.
Good Luck

Krishnamurti Padhdhati
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

{ SUB • LORD SPEAKS )

Appended below is the Horary figure made out at 6_00
1ST on I 0-4-90 at Chenuai 13o-04 '/80o-l7'. p.m.
~umber 42 given by Mr N.M. regarding the purchase of a
motorbike. ~ ·· ·

Que?' was specific. "Will I purchase a motorbike, ifso will it

be ~ful Without any trouble whatsoever? I have one in my view for
whtch an advance amount has also been paid."
. Readers may please note that it is already under his control
partially, as ~e _had paid an advance amount and so where is the
trouble about It m coming under his ownership?
. I~ was really a shock t~ the querent when it was predicted in
.. ~ negah~e way, duly telling him that the issue will be a futile one and
he may not get the bike under reference now.
Kindly look sharp and read the Horary, duly assessing the
strength ofthe CUSPAL& PLANETARY SUBLORDS
Sun Mercury I 00-00-00
26-39-44 Jupiter
15-42-11
Xl 25-49-33 10-19-39
XII 29-04-44
II 25-42-32

X 22-38-39
Kethu
Venus
19-28-26
I 0-34- 45
NIR"\ :-\NA Ill 22-32-22
_IV < S
Horary C hart No. 42
28-30-26
IX 22-32-22 Balance in Mars Peri od
Rahu J'yrs- 00 mths - 15 days IV 22-38-.W
l 9-28 -~(>
sm , _,,s. o::
VIII
25-42-3 2 Vl29-4-44
VII Moon
v 25-49-33
00 -00-00 0-52-32

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 III Moon IX Venus
IV Saturn X Saturn
v Rahu XI · Rahu
VI Sw XII Mars

SlDl Jupiter Rahu Mercury

Mercury Sw Mars Saturn
Saturn Rahu Venus Saturn
Moon Mercury Ketu Venus
Jupiter Jupiter

Matter was discussed, duly assessing the strength of the

SUBLORDS ofthe relevant houses and cuspal degrees, along with
the strength ofSUBLORDS ofplanets.
As it is a matter connected to the purchase of a vehicle
(Motorbike) IVth cusp SUBLORD was looked into.
The SUBLORD is SATIJRN.
SATURN is in Capricorn 1°-8 '-02" and so its star lord is
SUN.
Sun is in Pi sces 26°-39' -44" and is in Xlth Bhavan. Further
the same star lord SUN rules the JVth cusp also. which stands for
vehicles, here Motorbike.
This signification attained by the SUBLORD ofthe Nth cusp,
initially emboldened me to tell his success in the purchase ofthe
vehicle, under reference.
Krishnamurti Padhdhati 17
 ~UT the inner mind suddenly prompted me to make are-
c~k m terms ofthe strength ofthe relevant SUBLORD SATIJRN
With reference to its SUBLORD status.

. S~TURN was found in the SUB of RAHU. Rahu was

longitudinally 1~-28'-26" in Capricorn, relevant to VUI bhavam.
~e sam~ Rahu is in the star ofMOON, stationed in vth bhavam,
~ owrung the IDrd cusp and no planet in illrd bhavam, a complete
detnmental status for the purchase ofthe vehicle.
Now the students may please note that the star status of
SATURN indicated the purchase of the vehicle, and the SUB-
LORD's specification indicated quite the contray.
At ~s juncture I could remember'our GURUJI's words "The
SUB dectdes the matter. Matter is shown by the stellar position."
So I was emphatic in telling Mr N.M. that the purchase may
not materialise finally. ·

On ll-4-90, theownerofthe bike intimated him that he at

al
the moment, had no mind to part with the vehicle and if ali he ~Us
the same, the preference would fall on Mr. N.M. only, duly returning
the advance amount.
Thus ended the matter.

And so, we are rediscovering the famous KRISHNAMURTI

PADHDHATHI; an Advanced steller Theory, byrightly calling same
as SUB THEORY

· With Pranams to our GURUJI, Sri KSK.

Good luck

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Sri Mahaganapathayc Namaha

[ SUB - LORD SPEAKS I

Apropos our great GURUJI sri KSK's Ariticle, captioned
"WILL THE PLAY BE CONTINUED OR NOT' on page 1 of
the June, 1990 issue ofKP &Astrology, I request you to note the
lines in the lind para in the lind column. I reproduce the.same for
inunediate attention.
"So judge the Vth & Xlth cusps. Sub Lord ofthe Xlth cusp
in Sun. It is in the sub ofJupiter in VII. not connected with V.
Hence one will switch offthe Television as the desire will not
be fulfilled by seeing it,
And again note the lines in the Illrd para;
"Take Vth cusp. Moon is the sub lord and it is in the sub of
Rahu signifificator ofV (Moon Lord ofV). Therefore there
will be game."
From these linesthe student should make note ofthat GURUJI
gave stress on the Sub Lord ofthe planet under question for finality.
So, with this in mind, let me analyse 3 birth charts and point out how
Sub Lord alone has the final say in delineating the results.
Chart No.1
SriVaikari
Dateofbirth: 3-12-1942
9-30 a.m. advanced time (WAR)
8.30 a.m. IST (Corrected Time)
Place ofbirth :Village nearer to Ponneri (Chennai) 13°-20'
N . Latitude; 80-15' E, Longitude
Day Th~y
S.T Hours ,i 3-6-14 Sees
Ayanamsa 23°-2'24'34"

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 19
 Moon Moon
Jupiter

VII
IV 24-55- IO v 24-55-10 Sat 15-53-28
16-59-30
VI 20-55-10

III 21-55-10 Jupiter (R )

Kethu 87 Years-11 m- IJd VIII 1-30-4
5-59-43 NIRAYANA 17-55-10
BHAVACIIAKARAM
Balance in Moon Rahu
II 17-55-10
period at birth 5-59-43
IX 2 1-55-10

Lagna Venus Moon

Mars 28-13-13
I 16-59-30 11-24-51
XI 24-55-10
X 24-55·1 0

The native was running the major period ofMoon upto 6-11-
1951.
Moon is a major significator ofiX as it is posited in its own
star HASTAM in IX and very feeble significator ofVill as it is
~enented by Rahu. In this peri~ ofiXth significator, he lost his father
m Venus bukthi.
How? Moon is in the sub ofMars who is the bhadhakadipathi
from ~th as IXth cusp owner for Simha a sthira rasi. Bukthi Lord
Ven~ m the sub ofvenus itselfand so signifies Xth which is a mamka
position for IXth which stands for father. .
~e got into service on 28-11-1962. It was Rahu major period
and the bukthi ofJupiter from 28-7~61 to 23-1 2-63.

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 Jupiter is in the VIIth bhavam and in its own star Punarpoosam
and owns Lagna cusp and IVth cusp. All these significations do not
connect to service and professional life to start with.
So, look into the sub lord and it is Rahu. Rahu is in Vill,
corresponding to Leo and so it represents sun which is a significator
of xi and X (no planet in Sun's stars and Sun is in XI and in the star
of owing x Mercury and no planet in X).
Rahu is in the star ofKethu in ll.
It was in the ANthara of venus. Venus has no planet in its
siars and owns VI & XI (no planet in VI}. Venus in the star of
Mercury in x i, owning Xth cusp. TheAnthara lord Venus is in the
sub ofVenus and so it again signities VI, XI, & X.
So, on the day the entered services, the Dasa Lord Rahu
signified II through Sub Lord; Bukthi Lord Jupiter signified ll, X, &
XI through Sub Lord and theAnthara Lord Venus signified II, X &
XI through Sub Lord.
Another major even is his marriage on 25 -5-1966. Let me ·:
discuss this also .
Dasanatha Rahu in its own Sub and its in the star ofKethu
posited in ll and the same Rahu represents Sun, a significator ofX,
XI, & VII as explained earlier.
Bukthi Lord Saturn having no planet in its stars in V and owning
II & Ill and also posited in the star ofMoon in IX. Saturn is in its
own sub also.
Antharanatha Rahu is in the above said status.
In this period, he got married (between 7-1-166 to 11-6-66}
on 25-5-1966 on a Saturn star day, i.e., Poosarn.
Rahu major peri od .ended by November 1976 without any
major events. Then started the major period of Jupiter and it is for
16 years from 16-11-1976. Jupiter is in the VIIth bhavarn, in its
own star P~arpoosam and owns Lagana cusp and IVth cusp. So

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 21
 signifies VII,I, & IV. Jupiter is in the Sub ofRahu who represents
Sun ofrahu who represents Sun duly signifying XI & X, and further
Rahu is in the star ofKethu in lind bhavam. So Jupiter period gave
a stepped up status in the life ofvaikari. The major signification of
VIIth ofthe Planet Jupiter has been converted into big clientele and
VIIth worked add assumed the rolour ofX in tenns of signification
ofthe Sub Lord . He has more useful clients with the advent ofthis
period, as an Astrologer he enjoyed an established status with good
recognition as such.
As the Vllth significator is in the Sub ofllnd significator, the
.adverse matters ofVIIth such as open opposition and litigations
have been eradicated and on the contrary it fetches him good income
through clientele (VIIth).
Next let me take up the 2nd horoscope ofMr J for discussion.
Born on 12-11-1942 at 7.35 PM IST(8.35 PM Advanced
time, WAR TIME), Place ofbirth being Tajore 100-47'/7rJ>-1 0' on
Thursday.
Sidereal time arrived at- Hours 22-45-54 Seconds.
Ayanamsa: -23° -2'24-34"

Saturn (R)
17 ~3 1-10
II 19-57-36
XI 19-53-35 XII 22-53-3 5
Lagna
I 24 -14-3

X 16-53-35 Jupi ter (R)

Kethu 2- 11-36
7-5-20 NIRAYANA III 16-53-35
BHAVACHART
IX 16-53-35
Rahu 7-5-20
IV 16-53-35

M oon ~ un2 ()-3 0-53

VII' · Ve 25-33-11
20-52-36
24-14-3 VI 22-53-35 v 19-53-35
VIII Me 15-46- 36
19-5 7~36 Mars 14-9-9

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 THE NATIVE OF THIS CHART IS A GAZETTED
OFFICER with the advent of·Rah~ period which started by july
1974; and with a stepped up and lucrative status as an Electrical
Inspector from Jupiter bukthi which post he is still holding with wide
powers..
Let us discuss what Rahu tells.
Rahu is in Illid bhava and is in the star ofKethu in IX. What
this tells? NO service at all. then how is it that he enjoys such as
m
po:werful service this period ofRahu?
.
Now' look at the. Sub Lord ofRahu. Rahu is in his own sub. .
As node, in its own star or sub, Rahu attains the full signification
ofits Rasi Lord. Here the Rasi Lord is Sun, who is afull significator
ofll, VI, & XI (Sun is in the star ofJupiter in II, owning XI. Jupiter
is in its own star in II, and no planet in XI. Further, Sun is in VI and
no planet in its stars).
So, Rahu the Dasanatha acquires the strength of II, VI, & XI
through its rasi Lord under its Sub Lord status, as explained above
and so a fme service status is being enjoyed by the native. During
Mercury bukthi from July 1982 to January 1985, he had lot of
additional money and his bank balance went up.
How? Mercury is in v and own Vth cusp. No planets in
Mercury stars. This position itself tells financial stress and strain.
And further Mercury is in the star ofRahu in ill. This position under
star l~rd status does not portray this financial betterment. Loot at
the Sub Lord ofMercury. It is Venus . Venus is in VI and owns vi;
and is depo sited in the star of Jupiter in II owning xi (No planet in
XI and Jupiter is in its own star).
Krishnamurti Padhdhati 23
 The Sub Lord signification of Mercury has given such a
strength to Mercmy and inthat buk.thi he had reached asoWld financial
status apart from his service circumstances.

Venus buk:thi from February 1986 to February 1989 passed

offwithout any major improvement materially, though it was there in
terms of the Sub Lo rd Mercury which fully signified ll, & III as
much was expected in Venus period as it signified ll & XI through
its star lord signification only.
Followed by Sun bukthi from February 1989 to January 1990.
Let me discuss threadbare the strength of Sun in this chart.
S\Dl is in VI and no planet in Sun stars, i.e., Uthiram, Uthiradam,
and Krithigai. So Sun is a full significator ofVI & IV. (Sun rules
IVth cusp and no planet in IVth bhavam). Further, Sun is in the star
ofJupiter in ll owning XI. So Sun fully signifies through star, VI, rv,
II & XI. It is fine through Star Lord signification.
In this bukthi the native attempted a very big project, and had
this bukthi worked well in tenns ofthe above significations, i.e., VI,
ll & XI it should have multiplied his bank position ten-fold. On the
contrary a sizeable amount was handed over to one of his well
wishers for progressing the project; and as it was a failure, his own
money had to be drawn from his back in piecemeal.
Why?
The same planet Sun is in the Sub ofKethu. Kethu is in the
star ofRahu in ill and Kethu. Kethu being a node represents Saturn
fully. SatUrn signifies Xll & VIII (Saturn is in XII and no planet in
Saturn stars. Saturn is in the star ofMoon in Vlll). Hence the failure
to a major extent. He has now reached the bukthi ofMoon on 1-1-
90. Moon signifies I & VI thr~ugh star position, as it is in the star of
Venus in VI owning Lagna and VIth cusp. The same Moon is in the
Sub ofJupiter signifying ll, XI, & Vill.
The signification of VIII through Sub brought the demise of
his father, as VIIIth being the vrayasthana fro m IX which stands for
father. From IXth Moon, buk:thinatha owns the Vllth from IX, the

24 Sub - Lord Speaks

marak.asthana for father. The xth signification ofVenus from IX, tlie
star lord ofmoon tells the last journey offather. ·
As Moon gets II & Xlth significations also through Sub
strength, this bukthi shall retrieve his financial status and shall give
him boosted financial income before it ends by July. 1991 preferably
during Mercury Anthara
Next is the major period of Jupiter which starts on 9-7-1992
and it is for 16 years. Jupiter is in lind bhavam in its own star,
Punarpoosam and owns VIIIth & Xlth cusps. It is in ~e ~ub of
rahu who as node fully represents the sign lord Sun, a full stgmficator
ofVI, IV, ll, & XI and so, that period will give him high and stepped
up material success with stable household and vehicular properties
with high comforts.
Let me take up Illrd birth chart and discuss how the Sub
Lord ofplanets had a stamping effect in disturbing the marital portion
nflife ofSmt R.
Date of birth 5- 10-1961
Ture 6-41 PM 1ST
.Place ofbirth Chennai 13°-04' /80° - 17'
Sidereal time Hours 19-26-59 seconds
Ayanamsa 23°-18' -19"

III 0-43-33
Lagnam ll 3-47-33 IV 26-47-33
I 2-39-55

XII
26-47-33 v 24-47-33
Kethu
I-20-44 NIRAYANA
BHAVACHAKRAM Rahu 1-20-44
Balance in Kethu period Moon 2-00-5
XI 24-47-33 Venus
5 y- 11 m • 12 days
Jupiter 2 1·13-20
4-13·41 VI 26--l7-33
Mercury
Saturn Vlll 13-9-Il Sun
29·58-41 3-47-33 Mars 18-44-41
X 26-47-33 9-13-41
XI 0-47-33 V!l 2-39-55

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 Sun Mercury RMu Venus
Mercury Mercury Mars Jupiter
Saturn Rahu Venus Jupiter
-
Moon Venus Ketu Mercury
Jupiter Saturn

In this instance, I desire to discuss the"Significations ofall the

nine planets and make a survey in reference to her marital life as
under:

VI VI, X, IX
Mercury III, V, VI, VII, IV III, V, VI, VII,
Jupiter VI, X VI, X, XII
,II VI, X

Kethu III, IV, V, VI, VII

; . . Th?ugh Sun gets the good signification Vth; but through Sub,
stgmficattons are IV, & VI which negate the matrimonial happiness.
Moon is the lone planet which gets XI, & VI under star and
II, VII. & V under Sub. so there will be a happy matrimonial enjoyed
during Moon Period.
Mars gets V & VI through star, the happiness is completely
negated bytbe Sub getting VI & X signification.

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 Mercury having equal significations ofVI, VI, Vll, & IV with
seriousnegation for matrimony arising under VI & IV significations.
Jupiter gets VI & X through star and additional Xllth, apart
from VI & X, is a definite portrayal ofdetrimental status for peaceful
matrimonial life . It is very bad.
Venus gets V & ll significations through star, and at the same
time gets VI, & X through Sub tells the bad status of matrimonial
life.
Saturn gets VI, X & XII through star, and through Sub signifies
XI, X, & VI. The lone XIth signification gives very little
encomagement in the matrimonial portion oflife.
Rahu gets XI, X & VI through star telling mixed results
matrimonially but very happy one through Sub, getting the
significations ofTI, V, & VII. This will give a happy matrimonial
status.
Kethu has I, VII, & VIII through star, a satisfactory one for
matrimony but a mixed one through the Sub signification ofV & VI.
The girl got married during the bukthi ofKetbu in the major
period ofVenus. From the date ofmarriage she did not enjoy peaceful
matrimonial life, not happy at all.
- During the period of Sun from September, 1987 differenced
between the couple came to surface and got divo rced during 1989
during the bukthi ofJupiter a full significator ofVI, X, & XII through
Sub and the bukthi of Jupiter rules from 5- 10-8 9 to 23-3-90.
From the above signification chart, you will notice, except
Moon and Rahu, the other planets negate her peaceful matrimonial
life. 1bis is the assessment.
Good Luck

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 27
 . Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB - LORi.) SPEAKS I

I have taken up the delineation of the birth chart of the
MATHEMATICS PRODIGY Chiranjeevi VASUDEVAN. He is
now a school boy of9 years old, living in Perambur, Madras and is
a wonder ofwonders. He can be taken as the great RAMANUJAM
re-born, with such high faculties in Mathematics, duly acknowledged
and praised by many all over.
The following are his birth details:
Date of birth 7/8 - 1- 1981
Tnne 4-5 AM IST; 3-56-8
AMLMT
Day Wednesday!Thursday.
Place of birth Chennai 13°-4'
N' Latitude; 80°-17'
E. Longitude
S.T. Hours 11-5-42 Seconds

VIII
v 23-40-4 VI 22-40-04 VII 18-52-33 17-40-4

IV 21-40-4 Rahu
Nira ya na Bbava 18-34-10
C ha rt IX 18-40-4
Bala nce in Moon period
lJI 18-40-4
Ke 18-34-10 at birth:
Moon 7y - I m - 20 days X 21-40-4
13-49-4
Mars 12-43-00
Mer 28-34-13 Saturn
Sun 23-58-24 Lagnam 16-5-56
II 17-40-4 I 18-52-33 XIJ Jupiter
For. 8-44-13 22-40-4 16-21-46
Ven2-14-34 XI 23-40-4

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 I Kethu VII Mercury
II Mars VIII Slli1
/
Ill Mercury IX Kethu
IV Jupiter X Jupiter
v Mars . XI · Mars
VI Saturn XII Sannn

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Sun Saturn Mars Rahu

Jupiter Saturn Rahu Kethu
Saturn Saturn Mercury Mars
Moon Rahu Kethu Mercury
Venus Venus

In a nativity Illrd house stands for perception, learning and

intellect, and the IXth house for reasoning and intuition, higher mind,
transit that is rapid, prophetic awareness, higher brain power, delving
into mysterious realms and attaining very unusual accoplishments.
One should look at the IXth house to find out ifthere is BHAGYA
accumulated as a result ofhis poorvapunya.
Here the IXth cusp Sub Lord is K.ETU. It is in lind in the star
ofMoon in lind bhavam, in its own star and owns IXth. And'Kethu
is in the Sub of Mercury signifying II & X. So Bhagyarn is there
evident and it will act through his brain power and VAKKU and
bting him a great name and status.
Again in this bir:th chart, the Lagna Cusp Sub Lord is KETIIU.
KETHU is in II, one ofmaterial trinity (II, VI, X), and placed in the
star ofMoon in II owning IX, a house representing poorv ~ punya.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 29
The very fact that Moon, the IXth owner placed in II in its own star
creates a healthy status for poorvapm1yam to act in high beneficial
manner and in as much as the planet Moon the lind significator
attains the star lord status of Kethu, the Sub Lord of the Lagna
Cusp and IXth cusp.
Such a combination detailed above tells the birth as a result of
high poorvapllllya channeled through lind, which stands for VAKKU
(vocal power) ofthe material trinity, lind house stands for material
prospects through his way ofexpression ofmatters of extrinsic value
his ability to express and his VAKKU.
IXth cusp Sub Lord is also Kethu. Kethu as already discussed
is in the star ofMoon in II owning IX, and the same Kethu signifies
II & X through its Sub L~rd Mercury.
As IX, the house of higher brain power and as it is imbibed
naturally with the quality of rapidity, attain very unusual
accomplishments with quick down pour of matters, when well
connected to one ofthe houses of material trinity ie., II or VI or X.
Here as lind that stands for VAKKU is well connected to IXth he is
able to give astoundingly quick mathematical answers which an
ordinary person cannot dream to rise to that standard at all. The
owner of the IXth house is Moon and he is called Mathi, the mind.
This Moon is in its own star in II, and in the Sub of Jupiter in X
another material house, owning V, the house standing for intellect
and intelligence (please note no planet tenants the star of Jupiter).
This combination tells that the boy is endowed with high intelligence
and higher brain power to attain very unusual accomplislunents.
Moon is usually very good ifwe find it in lind bhavam, promising a
gifted tongue.
If one makes a survey of all the planets, he may find that
almost all are connected to IXth through lind bhavarn, a powerful
benefic house.
Let me discuss one by one, cusp-wise.

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 1st cusp Sub Lord Kethu is in lind bhavam in the star of
Moon in lind owning IXth. The same Kethu is in the Sub ofMercury
inn & signifies X.
lind cusp, Sub Lord Mars in ll (no planet in Mars stars) in
the star of Moon in II in its own star and owning IX. The same
Mars is in the Sub ofRahu on the IXth cusp duly signifying ll & XI
(Rahu is in the sub ofKethu and the IXth cusp is also formed in the
Sub ofKethu. Hence Rahu is deemed to be on the IXth cusp, and
as no planet is tenanting its stars, Rahu acquires the IXth signification
fully).
IIIrd cusp Sub Lord Mercury in II, in the star of Sun in II ~d
this planet is well connected to IXth through Sub Lord Mars bemg
placed in the star ofMoon in II owning IX.
. IVth cusp Sub Lord Jupiter in the star of Moon in II.owning
IX and also signifying X& V as no planet is in its stars and m V and
the same Jupiter is in the Sub of Saturn signifying ll, IX, and X also
as no.planet is tenanting itS stars. .
Vth cusp Sub Lord Mars is well connected to II& IX (please
see the above discussion regarding lind cusp).
Vlth cusp Sub Lord Saturn in X (no planet in Saturns stars)
in the star of Moon in II owning IX. Saturn is in its own Sub and so
again signifies II & IX, apart from X.
Vllth cusp Sub Lord Mercury is in the star of Sun and so
signifies II & IX and is in the Sub ofMars signifies II & IX and also
VI.
VIIIth cusp Sub Lord Sun in the star of Venus in 1 and so
signifies I, VIi, & XII, and the same is in the Sub of Saturn and so
signifies X, III, II, & IX.
IX the cusp Sub Lord is Kethu (as already discussed) and it
is in the star ofMoon in ll in Thiruvonarn and so Kethu sigtufies II &
IX. The same Kethu is in the satr ofMercury in II, signifying II.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 31
 Xth cusp Sub Lord is Jupiter is in the star ofMoon in II owning
IX, and so signifies II, IX, X and is in the Sub ofSaturn signifying X,
II & IX.
Xlth cusp Sub Lord Mars is in II and in the star of Moon in II
and no planet in Mars stars as such signifies II, I, VI & IX, and also
in the Sub ofRahu on the IXthe cusp (no planet in Rahu stars) and
signifies II & XI (for details see discussion on lind cusp.)
XII cusp Sub Lord Saturn is in X and no planet tenanting its
stars and Satwn is in the star ofMoon in II owning IX and so signifies
II, IX, & X. Saturn is in the Sub of Saturn itself and so gets the
signification of II, ITI, IX, & X.
On an overall assessment ofthe significations of these 12 cuspal
Sub Lords, we note that the Sub Lords are under star or sub
connected to IX & II, with better emphasis on the llnd, one ofthe
material trinity and thus tells his higher brain power attaining very
unusual accomplishment.
Now he is under the major period of Mars fro m 27-9-1988
to 27-9-1995. Mars is a full significator ofl, VI, ii & IX through
Star Lord and under Sub Lord Rahu, signifies IX, II, & XI (and
also II & lX as node Rahu represents Moon). So in this period he
earns high name and status through his brain power.
Period ofRahu is from 27-9-1995 and rahu on the IXth cusp,
having no planet in its stars, for VRISCHIKA lagna natives, is a
matter debatable.
Good Luck

Sub - Lord Speaks

 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB • LORD SPEAKS I

I have been writing some Articles under the above caption,
forcing the utmost importance on the usage of the Lord of Sub
while rendering prediction, and I have also brought home to the ·
students, ofK.P. that in the absence ofusing which, liability offailme
in hitting the correct results.
I have reproduced the golden lines ofour Late GURUJI Sri
KSK regarding the ROLE OF SUB and Sub Lord in prediction.
Still I want to reproduce some more lines from his Book, KP Vol-
II, heretmder:
''The strength ofa planet is judged by nothing the sign occupied
by it The planet in a sign is the source ofthe result, which it bestows
according to the lord ofthe constellation in which the planet was
tenanted. The nature ofthe results which the planet gives includes
whether the planet is in a positive sign or negati~e sign, in a m~vab~e
or fixed or common sign, in a fiery or earthy, auy or watery sign, m
a fruitful or a barren sign, in a mute or voice sign, in a violent or
hl.Dnan sign.
All these must be taken into consideration beforejudging what
a planet can do.
"A planet in any ofthe constellations will be under the sway
ofthe lord ofthe constellation. Therefore instead of giving many
probabilities ~ccording to sign, the three constellations in a sign divide
them into 3 groups."
"Each constellation is divided in 9 divisions under the name
ofSUB, in the proportion in which they are allotted total number of
years in Vimshottari Dasa system."
"Such Sub Division (SUB) is found necessary not only to
differentiate results indicated by two plantes, but also the cusps in
the same constellation."
"So the Sub Lord reduces the nun1ber of probabilities to be
chosen for prediction."

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 33
 "So all matters such as Health, Disease, Longevity, Education,
Profession, etc., clearly and correctly predicted only when the Sub
is included."
"To clearly indicate the correct matter, one can find that the
SUB serves better, and gives correct and clear prediction, whereas
the lord ofthe constellation is that which shows the nature ofthe
result only i.e., to which houses the lord of the consteUation is the
owner and the matters signified these houses will manifest."
"Further, a planet in the Sub of an evil planet indicates loss,
difficulty or failure whereas the same planet in the same star but in
the Sub ofa benefic, promises success, gain and pleasure."
"The lord ofthe constellation may indicate the matters of7th
ho use. The planet in the Sub of a malefic causes enemity, whereas
that in the Sub ofa benefic brings harmony and happiness."
"The lord ofthe constellation may show any one walk of
life to a native. It is the Sub which decides whether that area is
advantageous or not. "
Having these lines in mind, I had been watching many a birth
chart and in the process, I have noticed that the Sub Lofd had such
a strength, even to act quite the contrary to what the constellation
lord signification more emphatically.
Let me discuss some antivities here-under, on these lines, as
an eye opener to the students ofK.P.
First, I take up the nativity of Sri Kharun, born on 6-2-1954
at Tanjore (10°-47'NL; 79°-10' EL) in themorninghoursat5-39
AMIST.
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Sun Mars Rahu Rahu

Mercury Jupiter Mars Saturn
Saturn Venus Venus Rahu
Moon Mercury Kethu Moon
Jupiter Stm

34 Sub - Lord Speaks

 v 14-8-8 VI 10-8-8
III 14-8-8 IV 16-8-8 Jupiter Kethu
23-13-33 29-36-33

Moon
25-7-33 VII
II 10-8-8 NIRAYANA
7-27-47
Mer 8-50-33 BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in Jupiter
Venus period at birth:
25-9-33 9y- 10m - 7 days VIII
Sun 23-28-33 10-8-8
17-27-47

Rahu
XI 14-8-8 X 16-8-8 IX 14-8-8
29-36-33
Mars Saturn
XII 10-8-8
4-40-33 16-2-33

The native ofthis birth chart is now running the major period
ofMercury from 13-12-1982 for 17 years.
Mercury is in Lagna bhavam and owns VI & IX. No planets
in the stars of Mercury. There is kethu in VI and Saturn in IX. So
Mercury is a full significator of! and feebly VI & lXI. And further,
Mercury is in the Star ofRahu in XII and hence it signifies XII also.'
In Mercury bukthi i.e., from December 1982 to May 1985,
he was an executive in a reputed Madras based firm, as Mercury is
in the Sub ofJupiter signifying ll & VTI with substantial earning and
with good contacts.
Followed by Kethu bukthi from May 1985 to May 1986.
Kethu has no planets in its stars and posited in VI and also in the
star of Jupiter in V. Though he enjoyed the service status in that
bukthi in terms of the IVthe signification ofKethu, he suffered
viccisitudes in his servicdife in terms ofthe signification ofthe Sub
Lord Moon being Vth & Xlltb significator.
Venus bukthi started on 7-5-1986 and was upto 7-3-1989.
A deep study over this period will be ofuse to K.P. students.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 35
 Venus is inl..agna bhavam and no planet tenants its stars. Hence
Venus signifies, I, V, & X (V & X feebly). Venus is in the star of
Mars in X who owns XI th bhavam and no planet in XI also. Hence
finally Ve~~ signifies X & XI apart from I. These significations are
fine, promismg peace and prosperity.
But the same Venus occupies the Sub ofRahu in XII signi:fyin~
VII and as node represents Jupiter a full significator ofV, VII, & II.
In terms ofthese significations ofV, Vll, & ll he was in closer
l~e ~th a young girl ofa big aristocratic family and faced serious
difficultJes and challenging opposition ofhigher rnagnititude in tenns
o~V & Vll. The s~gnification ofll attained by Sub Lord Rahu, got
him settled down m a Kutwnbyham ofhis own.
~~te that the Vllth ctisp Sub Lord Kethu posited in the st·..r
~f Jupiter m V tells love marriage and the Sub Lord ofthe Vth cus
J •t h . .fi p
IS upt er w o Sigm _Ies II tells the girl in love is of high material
~~dard~. Got married with that girl on 29-1-88 in terms ofthe
SigruficatiO_n ofthe S~b Lord Rahu attaining V, vn & II through its
representation ofJuptter as mentioned above.
Then started the bukthi of Sun from 7-3-89 to 13-1-901.
Sun is in the~ b~vam and in the star ofMars in X owning
IV & XI. So Sun fully stgrufies X & XI, in tenns ofstellar status. As
Rahu is in Uthiradam i.e., its star, Sun does not signify VIII.
So in such a bukthi ofSun with such signification ofX & XI
he should have been_ well off in his service. But matter was quit~
contrary. He was obhged to leave his service on moral grounds.
~y? The same Sun is in the Sub ofMars in X. As there are
plane~s m Mars stars it does not signify X. As the same Sub Lord
M~ is stationed in the star ofSatum posited in IX he lost his service
dunng March 1989 itselfin terms ofthe Sub Lord signification.
The students may now nott~ how the Xth signification ofSun
under stellar status did not help the native to retain the service and
the IXth signification attained by Sun through Sub Lord has affected
his service status. ·
36
Sub - Lord Speaks
 Then came the bukthi of Moon on 17-1 -90 and it is upto 13-
5-9 I. Moon is in star ofJupiter in V and so Moon signifies ill & V.
This is not a happy status when we consider the luck through its
,stellar signification.
'
If you look into the Sub Lo rd po sition, you will note that
Moon is in the Sub ofMercury. Mercury is in lagna bhavam and no
planet in its stars and so through Sub, Moon attains I & VI
signification. Mercury is controlled by rahu (through star) ofcourse
in XII. As node, Rahu represents Jupiter a full significator ofll &
VII. Thishas given him a financial boost and the source being his life
partner. This happy matter had occured in theAnthara of Jupiter
(3-6-90 to 7-8-90)
Jupiter, theAnthara Lord in V, .in the star ofMoon in II, owning
Vll, and in the Sub ofSun owning Vill in lagna, thereby duly signifying
IV, X & XU in full, thus giving the native a big financial status through
properties bequeathed to him by hi s Father-in-law, all ofa sudden
to the tune of severallakhs (please note Sun is in the star ofMars in
X owning IV & XI) . .
Let me now take up the nativity ofMr. Muthu, born on 12-6-
1961 at 7.30 p.m. IST at Chennai 13°4 ' /80°-17'.
VI 15-35-12 VII 11-28- I 0
Ven 12-3 3-30 Moon Mercury
IV 18-35-1 2
v 18-35-12 20-37-10 16-57-50
Sun 38-3-15
VIII
III 15-35-1 2 12-35-12
Ket7-25-40 NIRAYANA
Mars
BHAVACHAKRAM
27-11-25
Balance in Moon period
Jupiter(R) at birth:
13-21-15 Rahu
II 12- 35 -1 2 2y- Om - 13 days 7-25-40
Saturn (R) IX 15-35-1 2
5- 39-15

XII X 18-35-1 2
I 11-28-10 15-35-12 XI18-35-12

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 37
 Saturn Mercury Venus Mercury
Moon Venus Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Rahu

This native ofthis horoscope is now running the major period

ofJupiter from 25-6-88 for 16 years and now is Jupiter bukthi upto
13-8-90.
Juptier in II and owns I & IV and no planets in Jupiter stars.
So Jupiter signifies I, IV & II. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in VI
owning Vlll. Summing up, Jupiter signifies I. IV, II, VI & VITI through
stellar. In this bukthi the native got a child on 16-1 0-89.
In terms ofstellar significations Jupiter had nothing to do with
V whereas the planet fully signifies, I, IV, VI, & VIII as status not
indicative ofchild birth.
Then how is it? Look into the Sub Lord position of Jupiter,
the bukthinatha. It is Rahu Sub wherein Jupiter is posited. Rahu is in
the star ofKethu in IT. As node Rahu represents Sun, (Sun posited
in the star ofMars owning V and no planet in V), a full significator of
V a house for child birth.
The birth ofthe child took place during the anthara ofVenus
(from 12-7-89 to 20-11-89);
Here Venus is a full significator ofiV as Venus is in IV and no
planet tenants the stars ofVenus.
The same Venus is in the Sub ofMercury situated in the star
ofRahu as a node fully represents Sun, a full significator ofVth (Sun
is in the star of Mars owning V and no planet tenants V).

38 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Further, to go deeper, at the moment the birth had occured, it
wa sthe sookshma of Saturn (from 4-10-89 to 24-1 0-89).
Sookshmanatha Saturn is in the star of Sun signifying VI &
Vlll. But being in the Sub of Mercury posited in the star ofRahu
and thus controlled by a node, and as node Rahu has acquired the
full signification ofVth, as a full representative of Sun his rasi lord
(Sun in the star ofMars owningVth and no planet is in Vth bhavarn).
Now it is clear that Sub Lord speaks the matter so well and
the matter is well indicated.
Good Luck

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 39
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB - LORD SPEAKS I

This is the 7th Article under the above series, and I hope by
now the students ofthe KP System might have fully understood the
significance ofthe usage ofthe SUBLORD and its inclusion is a
must while rendering prediction
So, I feel I need not repeat the sentences of our beloved
GURUJI SRI KSK and at this juncture I opine I am too late to tell
you my dear readers, that Mr. MOHAN is the force behind me to
write these Articles, stressing the utmost importance ofSUBLORD
while finally assessing the strength ofa planet.
Now I take up the horoscope of my relative at
PODALAKUR, (NELLORE District) and it is hereunder:
Name Sri Sri Ramamurthy
Date ofbirth 20-9-1942
Tll're 9-30a.m. 1ST
Place of birth TENALI 16° 15°/80° 35'
Balance in Sun Period at birth:
1 year; 9 months; and 2 days

VI Rahu XII .Rahu

40 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Saturn XI 22° 35'
VI 25" 35' VIII 23° 33' ll 0 27' 36" Jupite r
VIII 22"35' 26° 54'56"

v 25° 35' VI 23° 35'

Kethu
9° 54' 36" NIRAYANA
BHAVA CHAkra B Rah u
Balance in Sun Period 9 54 ' 36"
IV 23° 35' Ven us
Moon ly - 9m - 2 days
15 47 ' 36"
6° 5' 36" IX 25"35"
Sun 3°3 1' 16 "
Mr 8°44 '36"
III22° 35' II 22° 35' Lagna XII 25°35'
123° 33 ' Merc ury
2 9° 3 1' 56"

Ketu Jupiter Mercury Saturn

Moon Mercury Rahu Saturn
Venus Rahu

The native of the horsope is a Teacher by profession and a

decent citizen o£Podalakur, a smallmunicipal town in Nellore District.
He was running the major period ofrahu from 22-6-61 to 22-6-79.
He joined service as Teacher in his 23rd year ie, in the Bukthi of
Jupiter (from 4-3-64 to 28-6-66).
Let me discuss Rahu bukthi (from 22-6-61 to 4-3-64). Rahu
is in the star ofKethu in IV & in the Sub of Saturn in VII (no planet
in Saturn stars) and it is in the star ofMoon in lll owning X. Then he
.was a student ofTeachers' Tranining School and With some failures
he finally and successfully completed during the beginning of 1964·

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 41
 Then came Jupiter buk.thi on 4-3-64. Jupiter is in its own star in IX.
So Jupiter fully signifies IX, hence a negative force for porfessional
status.
The same Jupiter is in the Sub ofVenus placed in Xth in its
own star Pooram. This gave him a permanent footing in a School as
a Teacher.
He got married during May 1962 ie.. , in Rahu bukthi (from
22-2-61 to 4-3-64). As told earlier, Rahu through star lord position,
signi fie s IV, but as rahu is in the Sub of Saturn in VII having no
planet in Saturn stars, it signifies VII fully along with V, and so
marriage came up in Rahu bukthi itself
Rahu having the signification of VII, III, & X through Sub, the
entire period went on well and peacefully.
Jupiter period started on 22-6-79 for 16 years. Jupiter is a
full significator of IX having been stationed in its own star Punar-
poosam in IXth bhavam. IXth as you all know well, does not promise
an undisturbed professional life. At times it causes a negation also.
Here with the advent ofJupiter bukthi, he was elevated to the
status ofAssistant Headmaster, without disturbing his domestic life.
No change of place.
As you already know, Jupiter is in the Sub ofVenus in Xth
bhavam in it sown star Pooram, thus fully signifies X & I, and so the
elevation with an administrative status also.
All know he is an ideal Teacher in Podalakur but it is only
unfortunate to tell you that he was involved in a very big criminal
case that went on between 1983 & 1986. His Mercury bukthi
startedon22-2-84 and in thevicinityofits starting, on an unfortunate
evening, he happened to witness a murder being conunitted, while
he was returning from School.
Let us discuss h.o w Mercury is connected to such criminal
matters. Mercury is in XII, owning XII and no planet in its stars,
Kettai, Revathi, and Ayilyam. So Mercury signifies Xll fully and IX
feebly, as Jupiter is there.
42 Sub - Lord Speaks
 Mercury is in the star of Mars in XI owning II & VII. So
Mercury apart from XII, signifies XI, II, & VII also.
XII & VII tells the connection to a crinminal case, as Mars
comes to the scene as star lord of Mercury the bukthi lord. All the
two years, the case went on and as he is an ideal Teacher, he wanted
to tell the matter he witnessed personally. But he was threatened
with dire consequences if he were to tell the truth.
He suffered these threats and also enjoyed full support ofthe
entire public ofPodalalkur side by side all the two years. This event
brought him to public and he was in limelight, as the bukthi lord
Mercury signifies ill & X through its Sub Lord Saturn (Saturn in the
star ofMoon in ill owning X).
The case abruptly ended in the last Anthara of Saturn, just
having beenmanupulated to drop him from examination in the witness
box, The bukthinatha signification of III & X through Sub and
Antharanatha Saturn signification ofII & XI through its Sub Lord, a
powerful position to and his trouble and agony.
Now we shall discuss how there is criminal connection to
Mercury.
He signifies Xll fully and also VII through star lord Mars. So
Mars, VII & Xll culminates into criminal connections.
The star lord sign,iacation of Mercury be ing VII & XII, have
been converted into ill & X through Sub Lord status and his status
has gone high in the envirunn1ent, with the result he became known
to one and all in Podalakur and this bukthi broguht him to the
forefront.
Now I shall take up the birth chart of a woman by name Sow
R
Born at P -44 AM 1ST on 11-9-1961 at Madras 13° 04' I
80° 17'.
Balance in Sun period at birth - 1 year; and 15 days.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 43
 v 21 ° 8' VI 20° 8' vn 16° 48' VIII J60 8'

IV 19° 8' IX 17° 8'

Kethu NIRA~ NA Venus
2° 37' BRAVA C HAkram 2 1° 46'
Balance in Sun period
III 17° 08'
at birth: Rahu 2° 37'
Jupiter
ly- 0 m - 15 days X 19° 08'
4° 16' (R)
Sat. 0° 10' (R) Sun 24" 58'

Moon 7°46'
11 J60 08' I 16° 48' Xll 20° 8' Mere. 16° 17'
Lagna XI 21° 08'
Mars 23° 01 '

Ketu Kethu Mercury Saturn

Moon Mercury Rahu Venus
Venus SW1

III Saturn IX Mercury

IV Moon X Rahu
v Venus XI Venus
VI Jupiter XII Jupiter

Here I am discussing the Dasa period, whi ch brought her

marnage.

44 Sub- Lord Speaks

 Date ofmarriage is 14-5-1985. At the time of marriage she
was running the maj or period ofRahu (from 26-9-79 to 26-9-97).
Rahu is in IX and no planet in its stars and so Rahu signifiesiX
fully.
Rahu is in the star ofKethu in lllrd bhavam and hence it gets
lllrd signification also. Rahu is in the Sub ofVenus in IX owning Vll
&XII.
Venus is in the star of Mercury in X owning XI & Vlll.
So Rahu signifies III, IX, through star and X, XI, & VIII
through Sub.
Significations of III, IX, XI, & VIII do support material
matters. At the time ofmarriage, she was running the bukthi .ofSatum
from 2-11-84 to 8-9-87.
Saturn is in II and no planet in its stars as such it signifies II
fully. Saturn in the star ofSun in x owning X and Saturn owns IVth
and so Saturn is embibed with more detrimental significations for
martital matter such as X & IV.
Through Sub, we shall discuss.
Saturn is in the Sub ofRahu signifying ill & IX. Further Rahu
the Sub Lord being Node represents Sun, who is a significator of
VII & IX fully (Stm is in the star of Venus in IX owning VII).
Hence maftiage took place in the bukthi of Saturn.
Let us now discuss why the marriage did not come up in the
bukthi of Jupiter (from 8-6-82 to 2-11-84).
No planet in the star ofJupiter and it is in lind bhavam and so
Jupiter signifies 11 & V fully. Jupiter in the star ofSun in X owning X.
Jupiter has got better signification for bringing about marriage
comparable to Saturn through star lord signification. But Jupiter is
in the Sub ofSaturn and Saturn is in the star of Sun in X owning X
and Satmn has no planet in its stars and owns IV. Summing up it can
be stated that Jupiter is in the Sub of Saturn signifying X & IV.
Krishnamurti Padhdhati 45
 . . Hence ~e Su~ Lo~ signification ofJupiter had negated the
marnage conung up m Jupiter bukthi. ·
During Mercury bukthi (from 8-9-87 to 26 -3-90) she had
the luc~ ofpurchasing and owning a big house.
~ook at the star lord position ofMercury. It is in the star of
Moon m X. As there is a planet in its star, Mercury does not signify
XI. IVth signification is not at all seen here.
Now let us discuss the Sub Lord ofMercury. It is in Saturn
Sub and Saturn is in II and no planet In Saturn stars and it owns
Nth cusp and no planet inN. ·
Hence through Sub, Mercury has ll & Nth faculties and hence
the purchase ofhouse during the bukthi ofMercury.
Now I take up another birth chart ofone Sow J. Born at 2.58
AM 1ST on 20-12-1962 at Chennai 13o04'/80o 17'.

IX
VI VII VIII J4024 ' 51"
17o:l4 '5 1, 15°47'33 " 15o:l 4' 51"

v 15°24 '5 1" Rahu

Jupiter 7°53'49"
13'41 '33" NIRAYANA X
BHAVA CHAKRAM 14~4 ' 51"
at urn Balance in Moon period
15°21 ' 22 " Mars
at birth
rv J4o:l4:5 J" 6 Yrs; 7 M; 20 Days
1°13 ' 35"
Ketu XI
7°53'49" 15o:l4 ' 51,
Mercury Moon
. 17°40'28" II Venus
1 4~8'5 1 ,
I.U J4024 '5 1" 15~4'51 " 23°46' 51"
Sun Lagna xu
6°11 '4" 15°47'33" 17°24'51"

46 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Cusp Sub-lord Cusp Sub-lord
I Venus VII Sun
II Jupiter VIII Jupiter
III Venus IX Mercury
IV Jupiter - X Rahu
v Venus XI Venus
VI Mercury XII Satwn

Currently she is nmnirig the major period ofRahu from August

1976 to August 1994.
Rahu is in the star of Saturn inN and it gave her collegiate
education and was graduated during Saturn bukthi in terms of the, : .
Nth signification ofRahu the Dasanatha and the bukthi lord Saturn
signifying XI duly posited inN and Saturn signifying IV fully being
in the Sub ofJupiter inN signifying IX.
Her marriage had taken place on 15-5-1985, during the bukthi
ofMercury. Let us discuss Mercury bukthi and its signification.
Mercury is in III and owns IX and XII. No planets in the
stars ofMercury. So Mercur}r signifies ill,~ & XII, Again Mercury
is in the star of Venus in Lagna and so Mercury gets lagna and
VIIIth signification also.
Mercury bukthi ran from 22-7-84 to 2-12-87. Mercury
through star signifies III, IX, XII, I, & VTII. these significations
cannot give marriage except betrothal. But she got married. How?
Look into the Sub Lord ofMercury..Jt is Mars. Mars has no planets
in its star and is in X. Mars owns II & VII, and so fully signifies 11 &
VII. Hence Mercury gets II & Vll significations through Sub Lord,
apart from its III & IX significations through star lord.
Marriage was celebrated on 15-5-85 and it was Venus
Anthara between 25-1-85 to 28 -6-85.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 47
 Let me discuss venus Anthara, where the marriage date falls.
Venus is in Lagna and owns I & VIII, and it is in the star of
Jupiter in IV owning VI. These significations are quite detrimental
for celebration ofmarriage.
Now look into the Sub ofVenus and it is in the Sub ofSatmn.
Saturn signifies XI since it is in the star ofMoon in XI in its
own star also (Hastham).
Now it is clear that Sub, and Sub Lord ofa planet a lone
speak and the relevant matters come up and get implemented.
Before ending this Article, I like to bring home to the readers
and students ofKP that I am getting letters seeking clarification and
for example one Mr Gopal Chandra Choudhury ofPurulia (W.
Bengal) had written to-me on 4-8-90 that I am not including the
cuspal Sub Lord in my discussion regarding planetary Sub Lords. I
like to make it clear as follows: -
~-

(1) Cuspal sub lord and its signification tell whether the native has
such matters as shown by that bhavam are to be enjoyed by
him or not and to what quantum.
(2) Planetary Sub Lord and its significations tells the timing ofsuch
matters to get fructified and the matters as has been promised
by the cuspal Sub Lords.
(3) In both the above times, the Sub Lord ofthe Cuspal sub Lord
and Sublord ofthe planet as Dasa Lofd, is the final strength to
act and Dasa effects modified acco~dingly.
Good Luck

48 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Sri~ahaganapathayel~arnaha

( SUB LORD SPEAKS

In this Article I am introducing three natives whose family is
l
serioUsly affected and the peace in the family is disturbed to the
point ofcollapse. The cause is, the wife's lic~ntio~ character ~d
she is suspected to be havingincestuous uruon wtth\he~ cousm s
son.
Let me draw the horoscope ofthe husband, which is as under.
Born on 19-10-1929at3-30PMISTatMadras 13°-04'/800-
17' Saturday,Ayanamsa used: 22°-51 '-31.23" ; S.T. 17-1 040"
Moon Jupiter (R) v
W22'24" 23°12'44"
1127°47'56" Rahu 21°47'56"
IV
19°58'44" 25°47'56"
III 28°47'56"

122°15'47" VI
19047'56"
'
Balance in Venus
Period at birth
XII t8y-5m-1J days
VII
19047'56" 22°15 '47"

IX 28U47'56" Venus
XI Mr 15°5 8'4" 6°10' 19 "
X
21 °47'56" 25°47'56" Kethu Mercury
Saturn 19°58'44" 15°36' 54"
3°6'4" Sun 2°40'29" VII 27°47'56"

Sun Venus Venus Mercury

Moon Venus Satwn SlBl
Mars Venus Rahu Ralru
Mercury Jupiter Ketu Mars
Jupiter Sun

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 49
•.. :,.. ·
 I Saturn vn Saturn
II Jupiter VIII Jupiter
III Mars IX Stm
IV Rahu X Rahu
v Saturn · XI Jupiter
VI Venus XII Ketu

He was running the major period ofRahu from 1971 to

198~ . ~u is in ll in th~ star ofVenus in Vll. This promises happy
mantal life. B~ Rahu being placed in its own Sub he full y represents
Mars, the Rast Lord. Mars being placed in the star ofRahu in II
the period.ofRahu was good and he was a Railway official. '
Readers rna~ note here, Rahu signifies through star IV, IX,
& VI!. and so thts tells no service. The Sub position and
representation of Rahu had given him a good service life till he
retired during 1987.
Coming to our main theme of family trouble he had no
disturbances in his house all through Rahu period, as Rrutu is in its
?wn Sub signi fying VII (Rahu in its own Sub and so again Rahu is
m the star ofVenus in VII) hence upto March 89 no trouble.
Major period ofJupiter started on 30-3-1989. Jupiter is in
III and no planet in its stars and owns II & XI. No planets in II &
XI.

Now you can note Jupiter is a full significator ofiD, ll, & XI
through ste_IIW: stat~s. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in II owning
VI. These stgmficattons tell a great financial income and peace in
kutumbham. Of course he lives in his own house, his wife is in
good service and himselfgetting a sizeable pension. But no peace
ofmind at all.

50
Sub. - Lord SJ>eaks
Why: ..
Look into the Sub Lord ofJupiter. It is in the Sub of Sun. Sun
is in VIII in the starofMarsin VITI. Sun owns VII (wife).
With the advent of Jupiter period, he is in extreme grief on
account ofhis wife's licentions c~ter and he bas concrete proof
ofher having incestuous unions with her cousin's son who is a very
young boy.
Please look into Saturn and the buk:ti starts by May 91 and
ends by November 93. Saturn through star signifies VIII being
placed in the star ofKetu in VIII. No planet in its stars and so
signifies I & X, and Xllth bhavam as no planet in Saturn stars and in
Xllth bhavam. so situation will be grim.
Any relief, look into the Sub Lord. It is Sun. Sun owns VII
(wife) and in the star ofMars.in Vlll. So it will be disastrous for
him. This I did not tell him and simply consoled him, to first avoid
thinking ofhis wife's movement and devote to Him the Almighty
who will guide properly during such difficult situations and he went
away with a heavy heart.
This chart is discussed only to show how Jupiter with its
significations of(I, XI, ill, & VI) under stellar position could not
give him domestic peace and gives him heavy mental disturbance
and griefof driving him to suicidal tendencies, as Jupiter through
sub signifies VII (wife) and VIII (griefhere) with all his material
assets in terms ofthe stellar signification ofJupiter. Now let me
discuss the chart of his wife who is born on 14-1-1934 at 12-12
noon IST as 13°-04' I 80°-17' on a Sunday; S.T. 19-35-17'
Ayanamsa : 22°-55-42-43 ".

Krishnarnurti Padhdhati 51
 xu 0117'7" I 5~6'46 " II 6117'7 "
IJIJ 07'7"
' IV 29°7'7"

v
Venus 27117'7"
0°40'38" Ketu
Balance in Ketu period 27°56'10"
Rahu27°56 'I 0" 0 Yrs; 7M; 6 Days
Xl27°7'7 "
Sat 22°55'45"
Mars 20°33 '42"
Sun 0~9' 49"

X29°7'7"
Mer 26°49 ' 39" vm VI
Moon 12°12'20" 6117 ' 7" VII 00]' 7"
IX 3°7'7" 5°26'46" Jupiter
29il22'25"

III Venus IX Stm

N Sun X Mars
v XI Jupiter
VI Rahu XII Moon

Ketu Saturn
Jupiter . Saturn

We II)ust now discuss ifthe chart reveals the licentious matter

and also her incestuous union with~er sister's son.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
What is Sri KSK's views on this subject?
To say ifa woman is chaste: Ifthe Sub Lord ofthe 7th cusp
is neither Mars, Venus, or Saturn and the same Sub Lord is not
deposited in the constellations ofMars, Venus, or Saturn, occupying
one ofthe signs ofMars, Venus, or Saturn, the woman will be chaste.
So long as her Ascendant is in the constellation of Lord ofXI,
aspected by Jupiter, she will really be chaste.
To find out debauchery: Saturn, Mars, Venus connected with
I, V, or XI eg. 1st, 5th & 11th cusps being ruled by Saturn, Mars,
and venus. Mars & Venus being significator ofl & XI and aspected
by Saturn and Venus aspected by Mars. The cusp of I & XI in
Venus signs Mars star, Saturn Sub; or Saturn sign, Mars star, Venus
Sub; or Mars sign Venus star, Saturn Sub.
To sum up Saturn, Mars, and venus should be connected to
I, V or XI Then the pleasant minutes with people not legally
connected are indicated and incestuous union happens.
Love affairs: If the Sub Lord of the 2nd cusp is connected
with the Xlth house in any manner, you will have illegal connection
with women other than your legal partner. \
\
The Xlth house shows friendship, union and success in love
affairs.
The vn shows legal bondage and v shows one's love affairs,
the degree of success or failure in love. Courtship and illegitimate
attraction and social intercourse between sexes prior to marriage.
The TI house helps you to think ofthe other sex as your own
possession and within your environment to take the opportunity to
make illegal contact, provided the Vth house is connected with the
lind.
Summing up ifthe condition mentioned above is satisfactory
and successful, find out the significators of II & XI, and in the
conjoined period of the significators which are in any manner
connected with Vth, one is involved in such matters.

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 For fructification oflove affairs into marriage the Sub Lord of
the Vllth cusp must be a significator of XI and on the contrary
signifies VI or XII it will not materialise.
Now let me reproduce the observations made by a Western
writer VIVIAN E. ROBSON in his book Astrology and Human
Sex Life.
Irregular and Illegal Unions: Should Venus be in aspect with
Mars,each Planet being in other's house for example Venus in
Scorpio or Capricorn; Mars in Libra or Pisces, there will be
intercourse with a brother or sister or blood relation. If at the same
time Venus is with the Moon in a man's horoscope, he will form
union with sisters or other near relatives. Venus with Jupiter, in a
woman's horoscope will cause union with brothers.
Venus aspect with Saturn each planet being in other's
constellation, indicates union with relatives. In a woman's horoscope
it denotes intercourse with sons and sons-in-law. If however, the
Sun instead of Moon is conjoined with the angular planet and
especially ifVenu.c; and Mars precede the Sun in the zodiac, man
will have intercourse with their daughters or daughters-in-law, women
with their father, paternal uncles or sons-in-law.
By going through what these two person ages have told, we
have to conclude that house I, V, & XI afflicted by Saturn, Mars,
and Venus bring about incestuous unions among people. With this in
view, let us discuss this horoscope ifthere would be any licentious
behaviour and her having incestous unions with her sister's son as
suspected by the husband.
The Sub lord of the 1st cusp is Mars. Mars in Capricorn
owned by Saturn. Mars is in the star of Moon and in the sub of
Venus. The Sub Lord ofthe Vth cusp is Jupiter. Jupiter is in Vtrgo in
the star of Mars and Sub of Saturn.
The Sub Lord ofthe Xlth cusp is again Jupiter who is in the
star of Mars and Sub of Saturn, as said above.

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 So these 3 cusps are afflicted by Mars I Venus, Mars I Saturn,
and Mars 1SatUrn. So we have to conclude that the native of this
birth chart must have had licentious character and incestuous union.
Now she is running the major period ofRahu from August 77
to August 9 5. Rahu is in XI, no planet in Rahu stars and so Rahu
signifies XI in full. Rahu is in the Star of Mars in X and in the Sub of
Saturn in X in Capricorn.
So Rahu is well connected with Mars and Saturn and
connected to V through star lord Moon, owning V. Hence she must
have had such illegal union from the inception ofthis period, as the
Sub lord and Saturn is well connected to V through Moon its star
lord.
Now currently it is Venus bukthi from 8-3 -89 when her
activities came to surface and this bukthi is upto 8-3-92. Venus is in
Aquarius owned by Saturn and is in the 1st degree and so in the
star of Mars and in the Sub ofMercury stationed in Sun star and
Sun is in capricorn of Saturn. So this combination portends such
incestuous matter, as alleged by her husband and he accepted the
date 8-3-89 from which date it was taken to have started as alleged
by him.
Again the Dasa lord Rahu signifies XI and X and I through
stellar significations and she is having good material standard and
she is still in good service in Education Department. Rahu being in
the Sub ofSaturn, a full significator ofX (no planet in Saturn stars)
and Vth through Moon tells her licentious character all through.
Venus, the bukthinatha being in Saturn Rasi, Aquarius in XI
having no planet in its stars signifies II, Vll, XI, X 1 & 8th through
Mars, its star lord. So she continued to enjoy her material status,
but as Venus in the Sub ofMercury owning VI in IX and connected
to Capricorn through its star Lord Sun, tells her incestuous unions,
since Venus is connected to Saturn being is Auarius, Mars as star
lord and again Capricorn through its Sub Lord Mercury and this
combination confirms the alleged matter, Let me turn my attention
to the 7th cusp of the husband and discuss.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 55
 It is ruled by Saturn as Sub Lord. Saturn is in the star of
Kethu in Libra 19°5 8'44". So Venus comes in as Kethu as node
repreSents Venus. Saturn is in the Sub ofSun in Libra 2°40'29" so
Mars comes into the picture and Mars in Libra 15° 58'9". So the
VII cusp in the husband's chart reveals the character ofhis betterhalf.
Let me now take up the horoscope of the boy (son of her
sister) allegedly involved in INCEST.
Boy born on 18-7-1972 at 1-50 PM 1ST at Chennai 13°04'I
80°17'Tuesday; S.T. 9-26-5"; ayanamsa23°27'31.5".

I Ketu VII Kethu

II Rahu VIII Rahu
III IX
N Rahu X Rahu
v Venus XI Moon
VI Saturn XII Satwn

VII Sat 22-24-22

VI 28-37-49 V1II25-37-49 IX 24-37-49
28-17-22 Ven26-15-36

Sun2-19-58
Ket 2-36-37
v 27-37-49 Mar 8-59-12
X 25-37-49
Balance in Mars Mer 27-8-25
Period at birth
IV 25-37-49 ly - lm - 24 days
Xl27-37-49
Rahu
2-36-37

III 24-37-49 126-17-22

Jupiter (R) XII
1125-37-49 Moon
. 7-9-34 28-37-49
2-34-37

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 Jupiter Rahu

1bis boy is allegedly suspected to have incestuous connection

with his mother's sister. Let us now explore the w-asons by discussing
the significations ofhis I, V, & XI cusps as done in the woman's
case.
Here the 1st cusp Sub Lord is Kethu. Kethu as node
represents Moon in Libra owned by Venus and the same Moon is in
the star ofMars and signifies VII & II. Again the same Kethu is in
the Sub ofRahu in Capricorn owned by Saturn in VII.
Vth cusp is found in Aquarius and the Sub Lord is Venus.
Venus is in Taurus in the star ofMars and in the sub of Jupiter in
Kethu star. Jupiter in II Bhavams.
Xlth cusps Sub Lord in Moon and it is in Libra in Mars star
and Sub ofKethu signifying II.
So the 3 cusps are controll ed by Venus I Saturn, Venus I
Mars, and Mars I Venus and all the three cusps are directly connected
with II & XI; lind and XI respectively and this has incited the boy
to commit such a grave mistake ofiNCEST.
It is ·stated that II & XI combination under Dasa I bukthi
signification willbring about such enjoyments ofwoman under illegal
ways.
Let us see ifsuch a combination is found in Dasa I bukthis for
the boy.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 57
 He is now running the majorperiodofrahu ~pto 12-9-1992.
Rahu in Capricorn 2°36'37" in the star of Sun in IX and owns XI
and no planet in XI. So Rahu signifies IX & XI. Rahu in the Sub of
Jupiter in II, and no planet in Rahu stars, so fully signifies IT.
Hence this period should bring him enjoyment ofother women
under illegal terms.
From 30-3-89 to 24-2-90 it is Sun bukthi. Sun is in the star
of Jupiter in II, Sun as owner ofXIth cusp is connected to II very
well. Sun is in the Sub ofRahu and in tum Rahu is in the star ofSun
in IX owning XI and no planet in XI.
Hence there is strong combination ofll & XI which will bring
for the native good opportunity to make illegal contacts and as Rahu
as node represents Saturn (his Rasi Lord) in VII owning V & no
planet in VI. As alleged, he must have had incestuous union with
that woman under reference.
Then came the bukthi of Moon from 24-2-90 and it is upto
24-8-91. Moon is in the star of Mars owning IT & VII. Moon is in
the Sub ofKethu and Kethu is in Jupiter star and Jupiter is in II;
Hence this bukthi having II & XI"combination should have continued
such illegal enjoyment involving him in incestuous union with the
woman under reference in terms of his I, V, & Xlth cusps and its
significations as explained above.
I feel such an act of incest with that particular women will
cease to fi.mction with the advent of Mars bukthi from 24-8-91.
Let me discuss. Mars is in IX and is in the star of Saturn in
VII owning V (no planet in V). So it signifies V & VII. Mars is in the
Sub ofVenus in VIII in the star ofMars owning VI & VII in IX This
combination definitely tells his craving for illegal enjoyments. As these
planets are not connected to Xlth signification he will not be
successful in the matter getting fructified or fulfilled. Thus it will find
an end.
Good Luck

58
Sub - Lord Speaks
 ·.
Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB LORD SPEAKS I

Ifall the matters and happenings in a man's life, more affecting
and serious one is the marital portion oflife.
Marriage is a matter of more worth
Than to be dealt in by attomeyshop
For what is wedlock forced but a hell
An-age ofdiscord and continual strife
Wheareas the contrary bringeth bliss
And is a pattern ofcelestial peace
- Shakespeare
Astrologers do certify this as one experienced in an individual
life, as one witnesses the horrible life ofmarried one and at the same
time notice the disadvantages ofthe bachelor's life. Summing up
both sides oflife eqjoy advantages and suffer disadvantages.
Before-marriages are concluded, both parties of bride and
bridegroom consult Astrologers and DASA VIDHA Poruthams
are checked and accepted.
After some years, difficulties arise between couple who come
into wedlock, after scrutiiiising the porutham and duly found to be
having minimum eight out often poruthams.
Then how it happens? Sri KSK gives more weight to the
significations ofthe Sub Lord ofthe VII cusp and the significations
ofthe DASA Lords ofthe ensuring periods after marriage.
The Sub Lord ofthe Vll cusp gives a correct picture ifhe will
get married or not and if so how will be the prospects, good and
bad happenings duly indicated.

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 The ensuring periods record the timing of events good or
adverse in respect ofmarried life.
In my experience, I have come across some birth charts of
the married couple having been brought into wedlock with fme
poruthams, heading towards divorce.
Why? It is the weak VII cusp Sub Lord with feeble strength
and significations is terms of II, or VII, or XI more signifying the
detrimental houses VI, IV, X and XII . When the VII cusp Sub Lord
signifies VIII indicates disharmony and disagreement and it does
not negate marriage and does not threaten separation.
To add fuel to fire, the couple running the periods signifying
the detrimental houses threaten separation.
Regarding married life, Sri KSK advocates looking into three
houses, viz., II, VII XI with more emphasis to VII together with
Venus.
The planets who signify these house describe everything in .
regard to the aspect a matrimony and also cause the event a marriage
in their conjoint period in the Vimshottari Dasa system.
The VII is concerned with the urge for relationship and
harmony and is connected with the unity of the individual on equru
terms with others by partnership in marriage it tells much about the
state ofmarriage, the number ofmarriages or unions one will have,
the degree of success and the happiness from the marital union in
addition to describing everything about the partner, her mental make
up and sexual compatability.
The II is traditionally known as the house offamily, its growth
as well as decay. The bond ofmarriage, bringing the marriage partner
into family life.
Besides the ll house corresponds with the principle ofVenus,
the production and possessive attitudes of the Earthy sign Taurus

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and this governs the instinctive need for comfort and security which
marriage fulfills.
The XI house focusses on friendships and alignments with
others in permanent associations. Who else can be the constant
guide and friend, ifnot the life partner.
It is not.uncommon that the tie of association culminates in
marriage, so that the XI house fully justifies its inclusion in connection
with the aspect of marriage and married life .
Venus has rule over wrificating relationships and adjustment,
and it is the outcome ofher vibration. She has also domain over the
IT & VIi signs ofthe Zodiac which have sway over affairs connected
with marriage. In this respect the consideration ofVenus in matters
ofmarriage would seem to be befitting.
.Now I shall di scuss the birthchart of my good friend, Mr.
Rao. Born on 17-6-1939 at 10-45 p.m. IST at Chennai 13°-04' I
80°- 17'; Ayanamsa 22-5 9-53.62"; S.T. 16-16-21.

Saturn Venus Sun 2°36'35"

Jupiter 5°36' 12" Moon
11 °0'5" 4°40' 44 "
13 ~'5 1 " Kethu
II 11 °58 ' 55 " 1300' 14 " IV Mercury
Ill 14°57'44" 12°58'55 " W45 ' 8"

I VI
6°12' 40" NIRAYANA 5°58'55 "
BHAVACHA KRAM
Balance in Mars
Mars Per iod at bi rth
11°32'58" ly-Om-16 days
VII
XII 6°12'40"
5°58'55"
XI IX
X 14°57'44" Vlll
8°58'55"
12°58'55" R.ahu 11 1158'55"
13°0' 14"

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 61
 Mars Mars Rahu Mercucy
Mercury leetllu Ketu Mercury
Jupiter Rahu

IV Rahu X
v Jupiter XI
VI Mercucy XII Mercucy

At the on set let us look into tlle Sub Lord oftlle Vlltll Cusp.
· It is Rahu and is in VIII bhavam in its own star. KSK had said as
follows: "When the VII cusp Sub Lord signifies VIII indicates
disharmony and disagreeement and it does not negate marriage and
does not threaten separation." ·
Further the same Sub Lord Rahu is in the Sub ofMercucy in
v again signifying vm having been placed in Rahu star.As no planet
is placed in the star ofMercury, again the VIII signification along
witll Vis attained by the Sub Lord Rahu.
So it has not negated the marriage and it took place during
1968 corresponding to the major period of Jupiter and bukthi of
Sun.
The Major period of Jupiter ran between 2-7-1958 and 2-7-
1974.
No planet in the star ofJupiter and it is in II, owning II & XI
· no planet in XI). Moreover Jupiter in the star ofsaturn in II.

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 So Jupiter is a full significator ofll, XI & Lagna also tllrough
stellar position.
Such a significator of II, XI should give the native a very
peaceful marital life, togetller with high material status.
Ofcourse he enjoyes a good service life in Chennai Secretariat
and has a permanent income ofa middle order.
As per these significations, he should have good and peaceful
matrimonial life. But he is not.
I have already indicated that he got married in Sun bukthi ie.,
during 1968 in Jupiter period. As I discussed Jupiter under stellar
status and it indicated good marital and matrimonial life. The same
Jupiter is in the Sub ofRahu. Rahu is in its own star in VIII and
Rahu represents Venus a fullsignificator of IV & VI. But IV & VI
negates a happy marital life and VIII tells a disturbed affair with
quarrels.
Coming to the Sun bukthi. Sun owns VII cusp and Sun is in ·
the star ofMars in XII, owning III & X. (There are planets in III
and no planet in X). So Sun is primarily a full significator ofIV & X
and as no planet in Sun stars, VII also. So Sun signifies VII, IV & X
and this combination cannot give marriage, but some business partner
only.'
Then how the marriage took place in Sun bukthi. Look at the
Sub Lord of Sun. It is Kethu, and Kethu is in its own star in II and
so II & VII acted in Sun bukthi.
As already discussed Jupiter had Vill, VI, & IV significations
through Sub and so this effect got him only a wife, but not useful to
run his kutumbham at all, as she was a psychiatric patient and she
never lived under normal status as a member ofthe family.
It was Moon bukthi from2-11-1969to2-3- 1971 and things
have gone to the extent, that the native had to resort to issue notice
for divorce, as she was so bad and unfit for family life.
The readers may note Moon is in the star ofMars in XII and
a full significator ofiV & VI a bad detriment for marital life being in
the sub ofVenus .
 Next major period ofSatumstarted by July 1974 and it is for
19years.
Saturn through stellar status signifies II fully and so should
have given him good family circmnstances. As Saturn is in the Sub
ofRahu, signifies Vill being stationed at 13°-0' -1" in Libra and as
node further signifies IV & VI duly representing Venus posited in
11 °-0'-S"Taurus. Hence the DIVORCE case continued. Finally it
ended abruptly by mutual consent, with more benefits in 1984, dwing
the bukthi of Sun from June 1984 to June 1985.
Sun is in the star of Mars in XII and no planet in Sun stars and
so signifies VIT & IV also. These significations tell the difficult
situations he had to face. But being in the Sub ofKethu he attains
full signification of II and Kethu as node represents Mars a full
significator ofVI. These II & VI significations ended his case with
benefits.
Thus ended his marital life which started in Sub bukthi in Jupiter
period ended in Sun bukthi in Saturn period without any bearing on
his family life. It is no plus, no minus.
These lines only force the idea that Saturn, a full significator of
ll could not give a family life, as it was in the Sub ofRahu signifying
Vlll and as node through representation signifying IV & VI which .
tells the detrimental status for matrimonial life and k:utumbham for
the native.
Let me discuss the birthchart of Sri Venkateswarn born at
12-30 night of Monday on 30-4-1956 at Srivilliputtur ~-31 '1770-
40'; Ayanamsam 23-4-8''.

Sm1 Moon Venus Mercwy

Moon Jupiter Saturn Kethu
Mars Saturn Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Ketu ·Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Saturn

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 Sun Mercury
7°-·! I '14" Ve. 1°-22'52"
17"-8'22"
Ill Kethu W -26'22"
IV 16°-27'37''
19n·26' 22" VI
20°-26'22" v 18°-26'22"
VII
12°-9'22"
11
NIRAYANA Jupiter
15°-26' 22"
BHAVACHAKRAM 28"-3 1'27"
Balance in Venus
Mar s Period at birth
W-45 '52" 7y-4m-24 days VIII
I 15°-26'22"
12°-9 ' 22"
Mo on XI 1S0-26 '22"
2tG_43 '5 2"
Rahu IX
16°-27'37" X 19°-26'22"
XII Saturn 20°-26' 22"
w-26 ' 2r 7°-44'0"

I
II Venus Venus
III Venus IX Mercury
IV Jupiter X Jupiter
v XI
VI Mercury XII Venus

Currently the native is running the major period ofRahu from

24-9-86 and it is for 18 years.
It was Rahu bukthi from 24-9-86 to 6-6-89. Rahu is in
Vrischikam 16°-27' -37" and is in the starofSaturn in x. o~g.I &
II. No planet in IT. So Rahu signifies X, IT under stellar stgruficauon.
Rahu as node represents Mars a full significator ofXII & VII
feebly. So Rahu signifies II, x, XII, & VII. Trials f~r ~xing the
marriage failed, as Rahu is in the Sub ofJupiter a full stgruficator of
VII & III (note no planet in its stars). This also could have brought
about marriage, could not, Why?

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 65
 Please see Jupiter stationed in the star ofMercwy in rv, owning
VI and no planet in VI Sub Lord signification negated the marriage,
coming up.
The star lord signification ofRahu in II & X connected Sub
Lord signification ofVI, kept him in good serviee all through Rahu
bukthi. .
Then let us discuss the bukthi of Jupiter from 6-6-89 to 30-
10-91. Jupiter is in VII and no planet in its stars, and so signifies VII
& mfully through stellar status.

Jupiter is in the star ofMercwy in IV, owning vi, no planet in

VI and so IV & VI also fuiiy under stellar status.
The signification ofiV & VI should have negated his marriage
and got him some service.
Completely the reverse happened i.e., he lost his service and
got married in Jupiter bukthi and.Anthara. How?
Look at the Sub Lord ofJupiter. It is Saturn. Saturn is in X in
its own star and owns I & ll (no planet in II). So he signifies X & II.
So through Sub, Jupiter VII & III signification under stellar gave
him kutumbham and marriage and as under sub Jupiter did not have
any connection to VI, hence no service.
Here the Sub Lord has a subtle effect and more care is required
to see in between lines.
Summing up the VII & III signification ofJupiter has been
connected with II and marriage taken place.
Now, I take up another birth chart ofSmt. S. , born on 2-3-
1938 at 2-00 p.m. IST at 13°-4'/80°-17'; Ayanamsam 22°-59'-
3".

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 Mars
29°-47'32" Keth u I
X 14°-53'45" IX 8°-0 ' 32" 18°-48'40"
Saturn 17°-53 ' 45" XII 191-53'45"
11 °-3 9'56"
Venu s 24°- 31'3"
Mol9°-23'38"
Sunl8°-8'0" II
NIRAYANA ·
IXI~-53'45" 14°-53'45" \
Mer 12°-48' 17" BHAVACHAKRAM .
Balance in Rahu
Jupiter Period at birth
23q7'54" 0 y - 9 m - 15 days III
VIII 12°-53'45"
W-53 ' 45"
VI
VII 190-53'43" v IV
18°-48 '40" Rahu 170-53.43" W-53 '45"
8°-0' 32"

Jupiter Mars

She was running the major period of Jupiter from 27-12-38

to 27-12-1954.
Jupiter in Vill and Venus is in its star. Jupiter owns Vllth cusp
and no planet in VII. Jupiter is in the Sub of Mars signifying IX, I,
IV.
So Jupiter is a feeble significa:or for bringing about marria~e.
Unless a strong bukthi intervenes with better significations formantal
life, it cannot come up.
She got married during October, 1952 in the star of Saturn in
IX and so Rahu signifies IX fully. Rahu as node represents Mars
signifying I, IX, & IV.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 67
 These significations does not portray marriage in rahu bukthi
and anthara when viewed under stellar significations.
Then how the marriage took place in Rahu bukthi and anthara?
Rahu is in the Sub ofKethu in XI and no planet in Kethu stars
and so Rahu gets full signification ofXI and as Ketu is posited in the
star o~ Sun, III & .IX a!so. As node Ketu fully represents Venus in
IX, bemg placed m the star ofJupiter, signifies IX & VII. So under
Sub Lord signification, Rahu attains ID, IX, XI, & Vll and marriage
took place in rahu bukthi and anthara.
I will be happy to bring home to our beloved readers and
students one more matter, that she came as the II wife. How to
discuss?
~ndly look into the lagna cusp. The Sub Lord is Moon and
Iagna IS vn to the VII. Moon is in the star of Rahu in v and it
reveals nothing ofthe matter. Look into the Sub Lord ofMoon. It is
~ars. Mars is in Meenam 29°-17'-36" and it is a Dual sign·and is
m the star ofMercury a dual planet. This indicates the quality and
she went as II wife.
J take another birth chart of Sow Papa, my sister's grand
daughter born at 11-39 p.m. 1ST on 15-7-1952 at Madurai 9o_
58'178°-10' ;Ayanamsam 23°-10' -47".
Mo 19'1 33'2"
I Jupit er IV
23°6' 45" 23°4'48" Ill
19° 38'54"
Il25° 38'54" 23°38'54"

XII Sun 0° I '49"

Vtnus 17"38'54"
18° 38 ' 54"
NIRAYANA Mer 26 °3 8'34"
BHAVACHAKRAM Kethu 290 48'27"
Rahu Balaoce io Rahu
29° 48 '27'' Period at birth
VI
XI 0 y - 9 m - 15 days
18° 38'54"
17° 38'54"
Vlll Saturn
X IX 25° 38'54"
19° 38'54" 16° I '59"
23° 38'5 4" Mars VII
15° 17'49" 23 ° 6'45"

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 Sm Moon Venus Mercury
Moon Rahu Saturn Saturn
Mars Venus Rahu Saturn
Mercury Jupiter Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Sattun

'This native got married on 2-2-1977. The major period then

was that ofMoon.
Let us discuss Moon and its signification.
Moon is in lagna bhavam and there is a planet Saturn in its
star and so he is not a lagna significator and so not V also. Moon is
in the star ofVenus in IV. So Moon signifies IV, ill & VIII. Hence
the signification attained through stellar status does not portray marital
life coming up in this major period. Then look into the Sub Lord of
Moon. It is Rahu. Rahu is in XI bhavam. There is Mars in R.ahu star
and feeble significator ofXI. So the Sub Lord Rahu signifies XI, II,
IX& VII.
So the Dasanatha Moon is situated in the Sub of a planet
signifying II, IX, VII & XI. So Moon promises marital life through
sub only.
Marriage took place on 2-2-1977 in the bukthi ofVenus and
anthara ofVenus. What is Venus signifying?
Venus is in IV and there are planets in its stars. Venus is in the
star of Saturn in VI owning XI & Xll (Rahu is in XI and no planet in
XII). So Venus signifies IV, VID feebly and strongly VI & XII.
Then how the marriage had taken place suddenly on 2-2-77
during Venus bukthi apd anthara. Look into the Sub Lord ofVenus
and it is Mercury. Mercury owns VIi and is in V in its own star and
so strongly signifies V & VII.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 69
 . So in the period ofMoon who signifies II, IX, VII the bukthi
ofVenus who is strongly signifying V & VII, brought the marriage in
Venus anthara itself.
To substantiate the efficacy and deeper implications of the
Sub lord . I and Mr. Mohan, my friend do not fail to scrutinise all the
birthcharts and horary as well that pass through our hands and
prepare these articles for the benefit of K.P. followers and the
esteemed readers ofK.P. & Astrology.
Yet another birth chart, I take up here for discussion and it is
of Sri Thyagamoorthy ofChennai- 99.
Born on 8-11-1 928 at 6-20 p.m. IST at Srivilliputhur 9>-31 'I
77°-40' and the birth chart is as under:
I 0°33 ' 51" Mars
XII Jupiter Rahu J6021 '23"
27°17'51 " ll 06' 2" 8° 15' 13" III
1128°17'51" 26°17'51 "

IX IV
23°17'51" NIRAYANA 22°17'51"
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in Moon
X Period at birth
2 y- 10 m - 25 days
v
22°17'5 1" 23°17'5 1"

VIII 28°17'51" SWl

IX Ve 26°31'51" Moon
24°17'51 " Sa24°41'34" 23°2 '24"
10°8' I"
Ke 8°15'13" Mercury
Vl27°17'51 "
VII 0°33'51" 4°8'23"

Mars Venus Rahu Venus

Mercury Venus Ketu Venus
Jupiter Saturn

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 As this article is solely confined to marital life ofthe natives, I
am discussing the period which brought about the marriage, only.
The native got married on 9-9-1972 and it was in his major
period of Jupiter which ran between 3-10-1963 to 3-10-1979.
Jupiter is in the XII bhavam and Sun is tenanting its star. So
Jupiter is not a X1I significator. Jupiter is in the star ofKetu in VII
and so signifies Vll fully. Jupiter is in the Sub of Saturn in VII and
signifies VI.
Though Jupiter signified Vll through stellar, Sub denied his
marriage·mits bukthi(from 3-10-63 to 22-11-65).
Then came Saturn bukthi and it is between 2 1-11-65 to 7-6-
68. Saturn is in the star of Mercury in VI and in the Sub ofRahu
signifying VI (Rahu is in the star ofSun in VI).
Next came the bukthi of Mercury from 7-6-68 to 9-9-71 .
Mercury is in vi (there are planets in Mercury stars) and is in the star
of Mars in 11 , owning VII. Thi s bukthi also has not given him
marriage despite the fact that Mercury signifies II & VII as Mercury
is in the Sub ofVenus signifying VI (Venus is deposited in the star of
Mercury is VI).
Followed by the bukthi ofKetu from 9-9-71 to 15-8-72.
Ketu is in VII and is in the star of Saturn in VII owning XI. This
should have got him marriage. But nothing came up, Why?
Ketu is in the Sub ofvenus again who signifies VI (Venus is in
the star of Mercury in VI owning VI).
Then came the bukthi ofVenus which it from 15-8·72 to 15-
4-75. Venus is in the star ofMercury in VI owning VI and so it is a
detrimental status for bringing about marriage.
But he got married on 9-9-72. Venus under stellar signification
signifies fully the VI and yet he got married in this Venus bukthi and
Venus anthara. How?

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 71
 . The same Venus the hukthi and antharanatha is in the Sub of
Juptter, a full si~ficator ofVll (Jupiter is in the star ofKetu in Vll)
and so the mamage came up in this bukthi and anthara.
Fro~ the foregoing discussion, the K.P. might have reached
a. co~cre~e 1dea that Sub alone finalises the matter shown by stellar
Significations. ·

Good Luck

72
Sub - Lord Speaks
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB LORD SPEAKS I

In the above series, I am substantiating the efficacy ofthe Sub
Lord in the way ofdelineating the results in the final form. Now the
students are aware fully of the fact that even when the star lord
significations do not portray the event that had come to pass, the
Sub Lord gave a helping hand to indicate that event which had
happened.
"Suppose there is a planet in a sign, then the planet is the
source of light. It indicates the source of a re sult which a native
enjoys by its nature,. ownership, etc.
· If a planet is significator ofl, he gains by his own efforts and
influence. If it is the significator ofill through brother or publication, ·
he gains or losses depending on the Sub. Thus the pl anet whose
period is running, shows how one gets the result, how a result is
brought about, etc.
The lord ofthe constellation is that which shows the native of
the results i.e., in which house, the lord of the constellation is
deposited and the house or houses it owns. Then the matters signified
by those houses will manifest.
Suppose the lord ofthe constellation owns the houses III &
X i.e., Mars to Aquarius- horns, Venus to Leo-horns and they are
occupying 3rd house from Aquarium or Leo respectively, then the
planet is Mars.' constellation for Leo-horns shows that one
corresponds, interviews or make a short journey for a job. Then the
favourable or unfavourable Sub denotes whether he is successful or
not
According to the principles available one cannot definitely state
when one can have beneficial results and also what result one can

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 73
expect at a particular time. But by studying this Book and fo llowing
the Magazine ASTROLOGY &ATHRISHfA published at Madras,
one can give exhaustively the prediction including the SUB.
Further, a planet in the Sub of an Evil planet, indicates loss,
dificulty, failure whereas the same planet in the same star but in the
Sub ofa benefic, promises success, gain and pleasure.
The lord ofthe constellation may indicate the matters ofthe
VII. The planet in the Sub of a malefic causes ENMITY whereas
that in the Sub ofa benefic brings in harmony and happiness.
If a planet indicates business, the star lord governed by this
planet shows business, and the planet in beneficial Sub promises
profit, whereas that in the Sub ofan evil one threatens loss.
The lord ofthe constellation may show any one walk oflife to
the native. It is the Sub which decides whether that area is
advantageous or not and thereby indicates whethe·r the planet
occupying therein will after desirable results or adverse ones.
Each star indicates many matters and when a prediction is to
be offered, taking into consideration a planet and its situation in a
. constellation, one has to give many alternatives and hence the
prediction will not be of much use to the querist. But if the sub is
also included then one can eliminate many ofthem and select a very '
few, out of many matters indicated by the contellation."
I may be allowed to reiterate that these series ofarticles are
being written duly emphasising the importance ofusing the Sub Lord
without fail , only to dispel the illusion oflimiting with stellar strength
only, and offering predictions; and by that you are liable to fail to
gi ~e correct guidance to the consulting public.

Of course, at various·instances, the matter indicated by the

stellar pOsition might have come to pass, while you will also note
that the Sub Lord would have had such a signification too. Such
instances have led our K.,P. followers to limit themselves without

74 Sub - Lord Speaks

going further in checking the signification andstrength ofSub Lord.
Students should be alert in using Sub Lord without fail when a nativitY .
or horary chart is delineated.
Let me now discuss the birth nativity ofDr. S.R. (M.D.) and
the birth particulars are hereunder:
Date ofbirth 15-11-1931
Tnre 6- 30 - 11 A.M. IST
Place ofbirth Tanjore 10°47°/79° 10'
Sidereal Time 9-49-27hours/ minutes I seconds
Ayanamsa 23 °-53 '-1 2"

Rahu
VI VII Vlll
9°53' 10"
5°11 '28" 2°55'0" 2"6 '58"
v 4°11'28"
IX
IV 1°11 ' 28"
2° 11 '28" Jup iter
Balance in Sun Per iod 28°46'58 "
Moon ly- 2m- 17 days
5°5'19" X
III 2°11 ' 28"
1°11'28"

Saturn Mars 1S023'38" Sun Xl 4°11'28"

26°4 '3 1" Ve 16°18'26"
Mer 14"20'29" 28°49'18" Ketu
II 9°53' 10"
J2&
55'0" XII 5"11 '28"
2°6'48"

Moon Saturn Saturn

Mars Rahu Venus
Mere Rahu Ketu Venus
Jupiter Saturn
§·

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 75
 The Doctor get married in the major period ofRahu, bukthi
of Saturn during June, 1956 i. e., in the Anthara of Saturn itself.
Let us discuss the signification ofRahu. It is in the star of
Saturn in II and so signifies II and IV (Saturn owns I II & IV, Moon
in ill and no planet in IV). As there is no planet in the stars ofRahu,
it signifies V also.
Bukthinatha Saturn is in the star ofVenus deposited in I, owning
VII. So Saturn signifies I & VII. Rahu Dasanatha is in the Sub of
Venus and so signifies II & IV (Venus is in the star of Saturn in II
owning IV). Saturn, the bukthi and antharanatha is in the Sub of
Kethu and so signifies XI & XIII & X. Kethu through representation
gets II also (Kethu as node represents Mercury who signifies II).
The matter indicated by Saturn through stellar position is Vll
and being in the Sub ofKethu signifying XI & II, with the result a
combination of II, VII, & XI arises in the bukthi of Saturn and
anthara of Saturn and the marriage came up during June, 1956.
(Here the matter ofVII signification takes shape into II & XI) a
favourable combination for giving marriage).
It is understood from the native that he passed MBBS during
March, 1958 and it was then, the Dasa ofRahu, bukti of Saturn,
and antara of Mars.
Rahu as discussed above, signifies through Sub II & IV, and
Saturn through Sub XI & II.
The planet Mars (antharanatha) signifies I, VI, VTII through
star (no planet in Mars stars) and through Sub II & IV (Mars is in
the Sub of Mercury signifying II & IV as Mercury is deposited in
the star of Saturn in II, owning IV).
So Rahu, Saturn, and Mars through Sub significations ofll &
IV, XI & II, II & IV, and this brought about his getting the MBBS
degree, with a recognised status.
He beca.:ne M.D. during 1972 in the period ofJupiter, bukthi
of Saturn, and anthara ofKethu in February I March, 1972 .
76 Suh - I .ord Sneak!'\
 Major period of Jupiter is in iX in the star of Mercury in
Lagna bhavam owning VII & XI. So he signifies I,~·~~ through
star. Being in the Sub of Saturn he gets I & VII stgruficanon also.
The VII signification through Sub negated him. to have MD
status during Jupiter bukthi. Subsequently during Saturn bukthi came
and it is in the Sub ofKethu.
Kethu is in XI and no planet in its stars and so Kethu gets XI
signification. Kethu is in the star ofSun, owning X an~.no pl~et in
X, duly deposited in XII. Kethu represents Mercury It s Ras1 Lord
signifying ll & IV.
In the bukthi of Saturn he got M.D. status as, through Sub
Saturn signified X, XI, II, & IV. especially in the anthara ofKethu
who also signifies XI, II, & IV.
He entered into service as Assistant Surgeon during February,
1960. Then it was Rahu major period bukthi ofMercury and Anthara
ofMoon.
As already discussed, Rahu signifies II & IV through Sub
position. Mercury signifies ll & IV through stellar position, II, IV &
V through Sub Lord Rahu, who as node represents Jupiter a
significator ofl, XI, & VID.
The anthara lord Moon signifies III, X, & XII through stellar
position, and I & VII through Sub and thus th~ Dasa.Lo_rd, B~kti
Lord, and Anthara Lord has acquired the combmed stgrufications
ofii, XI, ill, & which brought him the entry into service life.
Retired from service by March, 1990 corresponding to the
major period of Saturn, bukti of Mercury, and anthara of Jupi ter.
Saturn signifies through its.Sub Lord Kethu X, XI, & Xll. So
Saturn should give occupational life, plus retirement also (Xll fall
from status or relinquishing the same.)
The bukthi lord Mercury signifies though Sub Lord R.ahu II,
IV, & V (Rahu, V no planet in its stars and it is in the star of Saturn

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 77
 in II, owning IV. Further, Rahu represents Jupiter in IX owning V
. and signification ofl as the star lord'ofJupiter being Mercury in I).
So full signification of! is also there and with feeble signification of
IX which are service ending significations.
Antharnlord Jupiter being in IX through its lord Sattnnsignifies
I & VII. Thus in the anthara ofJupiter, ended his service life.
·Now, I like to point out, how nice it is to note that the IV
cusp 2°-11 '-28" in Aquarius, ruled by Kethu as Sub Lord, having
been placed in the star of Sun, indicates his Medical education.
Students may kindly note it. (Sun is taken as Dhanvanthri).
.Now I take up the nativity ofa business magnate and discuss
how the Sub lord indicate the incidents more well than stellar
significations. Birth particulars are as under:
Date of birth 15-9-1944 (Thursday)
Tnne 3-59 a.m. 1ST
Place ofbirth Madras 13° 4' /80° 17'
Sidereal Time Hours 8-19-59 Sees.
Ayanamsa 23°-4'-5"

Jupiter Mars

78 Sub - Lord Speaks

 -
IX
VI VII VIU 9°38'30"
11°38'30" 11°8'47" 10°38'30" Saturn
l61l24'50"

v Rahu
10°38'30" 1°26'59"
X 9°38'30"
Balance in Kethu period
5 y - 4 m - 6 days Mn 3°8'56"
IV
9°38'30" XJJ0°38'30"
Mer 15°34'14"
Ketu JuP.iter 11152' 15"
ID26'59" Sun 29°5'6"
XII 11"38'30"
III II I Mars
9°38'30" 18°2'55"
10°38'30" 11°8'47" Venus
20°48'21,

Currently, the native is running the major period ofMars from

21-1-1986 to 21-1-1993, when the birth chart was brought to me
by !Us sister ofconsultation.
Let us discuss the signification ofDasa Lord Mars.
Mars owns II & VII and is in XII. No planet in its stars. So
Mars signifies VII, II, & XII through occupational status. And it is
in the star ofMoon in X, owning X and so Mars is a significator of
VII II XII & X under stellare status. Macils in the Sub of Mercury
' ' .
a depositor ofXI bhavam. No planet in Mercury stars and It owns
IX & XII. There are planets in IX & XII. And Mercury is in the star
ofVenus in XII.
Hence through Sub, Mars signifies XI, I, VITI, & X portraying
the matter of his good occupational status and financial affluence,
businces faculties and very longjourneys, having boosted his material
portion of life, by its Sub Lord signification of XI. & ~ ~d at ~he
same time cut short his life through an accident under Its sigruficanon
of VIII & XII, & XI also.
Let us scrutinise how and when it took place.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 79
 When the birth chart came under scrutiny it was the bukthi of
Ketu numing, between 18.7.1990 and 15.12.1990. Ketu is in III
m
bhavam (movement short distances), in the star ofUthiradam in
Capricorn portion ruled by Saturn (karaka ofaccidents and bones).
As node, Ketu stands for Capricorn and the IV cusp therein
(CHESl).
Ketu is in the star of Sun in XI, a bhadakasthana for Libra
born.
Ketu through stellar position tells more material success as it
signifies XI. But as XI for Libra tells afflication to longevity.
Ketu by representation stands fo r Saturn signifying X through
its occupation in Rahu star and Rahu in Cancer, as node acquires
the X house faculties. These gave him business affluence.
But please note this Ketu is in the Sub ofJupiter in XI (there
is Rahu in its star Punarpoosam). So Jupiter does not signify XI
fully. But through its stellar status, being posited in the star ofVenus
in xn, owning vm, involved him in a serious accident, crushing his
chest bones and was hospitalised on 20.7.1990. He succrunbed to
it in the same anthara ofKetu and died on 25.7.1990.
Yet another birthchart ofMrs. E.J., I am introducing to K.P.'
followers for emphasising the fact ofSub Lord being very important
to finalise and sum up the results ofa Dasa or bukthi.
Date ofbirth 20-1-1955
Ture 5-50 a.m. IST
Place ofbirth Chennai 13° 4' /80° 17'
Ayanamsa 23°-13'-17"
Sidereal Tune 13-15-33 Sees.

Sub - Lord Speaks

 Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Mars

IV27°14' Ketu
Mars v 27°14' VI 24nl4' 11°11' .
J0°J4' J3" VII 19°14'

III 25°14' Jup (R)

0°59' 43"
VIII 21n14'
Balance in Mercury
Mercury period
22o:3 4'43 " 12 y- 6 m -22 day s
IX 25"14'
Sun
5°55 '43 "
Lagn.a XI124°14'
XI 27°14' X 27°14'
I 19°1' Mn 20°9'13"
Rahu Venus Saturn
26°35 ' 43"
ll 0 11 '13" 19°11 '43"

The native ofthis chart is a lady, working in a reputed private

organisation drawing decent salary.
Let us see how the periods protray the position.
Now she is nmning the major period ofVenus from August,
1974 to August 1994. You may note the position ofVenus in the
birthchart. It is 19°4 '43", Scorpio in XI bhavam owing VI & XI.
No planet in its stars, so Venus signifies fully XI and feebly the VI,
as Ketu is deposited there.
Venus in the star of Mercury in ll, owning VII and X and
there are planets in V1I & X.
So, summing up, Venus signifies ll & XI fully and VI, VII, &
X feebly, stellar wise.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 81
 Anyway, Venus shall give her material and matrimonial
happiness in terms of II & XI significations. She is having good
salaried service, no much wants on the material side.
But, she has very bad matrimonial life, at times (why, too
often) heading towards DIVORCE.
Why?
Now, look into the Sub ofVenus. It is ketu. Ketu is in VI and
in the star ofRahu in XII and so Venus gets the XII signification
through the star lord of Ketu, the Sub Lord of Venus the major
DasaLord.
This Rahu being a node, represents Jupiter in Vll and Saturn
is in Jupiter star and so Jupiter does not retain its VII signification.
Jupiter owns Iagna and N cusps. There is Sun in lagna bhavam and
so Jupiter signifies IV only, fully,
Hence the planet Rahu a prime mover ofVenus period, had
fully gained the IV signification. IV is always bad for happy and
peaceful matrimonial life, as it is 12th for V which unites the couple_.
Finally it can be deduced that the major Dasa Lord Venus
gets Xll and IV significations through its Sub Lord Ketu. VI, XII &
IV do not promise a happy matrimonial life and on the contrary
these significations would give a disturbing abnoshpere between
the couple all through Venus period.
This I hinted her when she came for consultation during
September, 1990.
DIVORCE is ruled out, as bukthi lords Mercury and Ketu
signify IT, XI, & Vll respective!y through Sub.
How?
Mercury is in the SuoofVenus in XI and no planet in Venus
stars and Venus in the star ofMercury again in II. Ketu is in the Sub
of Saturn in X and there is Mars in Saturn stars. Saturn is in the star'
of Jupiter in VII. So DIVORCE is ruled out. (XI, II & Vll).

Good Luck

82 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB - LORD SPEAKS I

I desire to discuss the importance ofthe usage of Sub Lord
for sometime more. only to see my beloved KP followers make it a
point to decide the results only after scrutinising the Sub Lord ofthe
planet and its significations.
Revering to the subject, I have a horary chart which I discussed
on the evening of 4-1-1991 at 6-30 p.m. as my friend Mr.Rao
approached me with the following query.
"Will I be losing the occupation ofthe building as there is a
heavy pressure for my eviction" and gave the No.136 (1-249).
He explained me personally how the owner is an unlawful a
forceble person and none can stand before him, so fierce he is.
"God alone should help me as at around 7 a.m. tomorrow I have to
hand (!Ver the keys.
Such was the pitiable status ofmy friend Mr.Rao.
I Worked out the horary at once at 6-30 p.m. 4-1-91 at
Madras 13 4 '/80 17' and it is as follows.

I Sun vn Mars
II Jupiter VIII Satmn
III Sun IX Venus
IV Saturn X Jupiter
v Moon XI Rahu
VI Venus XII Kethu

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 83 .
 Mars
VI 4°4'29" IX
VII 1609'16"
20°1 ' 8" 17°26'40" vm
16°17'24"
Ketu
v NIRAYANA 5°11 '46"
19°1'8" HORARY CHART X 16°9 ' 16"
Ayanamsa : 2J•42'34i" Jupiter (R)
17053 ' 9"
Place : Madras
IV 1609 ' 16" 1304'180'17'
Ven. 5~6 ' 2 " Balance in Keto period Moon
Rahu J0050 ' 54 "
5°11'46" 1y - 3 m - 19 days
Xll9°1' 8"
Sat2~0'12"
Sun
19°56'24" II
III 1609 ' 16" 16°17'24" 117~0'40" XII 20°1'8"
Mercury
0°3 ' 12"

Moon Satwn
Mars Saturn Mercury
Mercury Kethu Kethu Saturn
Jupiter Mercury

. My friend Mr.Rao gave a colour to his matter being very

sen~u~ as the owner of the building is as unruly element. He says
that 1t IS not easy to deal with him.
In the horary. You can notice the vn cusp Sub Lord is Mars
dqely posited in the Sub of Sa~. This tells his mental make up of
Mars-Saturn n~xus, also explams a rowdy and unlawful element in
the person ofhis opponent, the house owner.
Query is simple, as it is a matter connected to IV cusp.
. ~irstly I looked into the Sub Lord ofthe I cusp. It was Sun.
Sun IS m.the III house and owns XI. There are planets in Sun's
stars. So It does not signify either III or XI. It is in the star ofVenus

84 Sub - Lord Speaks

in III, owning I. No planet in Lagna. So Lagna will give him the
strength to stand the trouble (I & ill & Vlli also), Sun is in the Sub
ofRahu in ill and thus signifyi(lg III, & XI both detriment for the
opponent. So Lagna is strong to face the situation.
Then the Sub Lord of the IV cusp has been scrutinised. The
Sub Lord is Saturn. Saturn is in ill and there are planets in its star.
i.e. Kethu. Saturn is in the star of Sun in ill. So Saturn signifies III
fully.
Here the matter is continuing the occpation of a house, and as
the Sub Lord ofthe IV cusp Saturn signifies III, he must leave the
house forthwith and he can no longer continue to occupy it. This is
the stellar strength of the Sub Lord ofthe IV cusp.
The Sub Lord strength ofthe planet Saturn alone will finally
indicate the result. Saturn is in Sub of Jupiter in X and no planet in
Jupiter's stars. So Satumatthefustinstance signifies X& VI (Jupiter
owns VI and no planet in his stars). The same Jupiter is in the star of
Mercury in II. So, through Sub the IV cusp Sub Lord signifies VI,
X,&II.
This tells the occupation ofthe house is continued and I assured
Mr.Rao that there is going to be a sudden change in the matter not
at the eleventh hour as we say in a general manner, I told him matters
will take a different tum in your favour at the 11th minute.
Before sending him away, I looked into the X cusp as it is the
IV from Vll. The Sub Lord is Jupiter.
No Planet in Jupiters stars and it is in X. This is stellar status.
But Jupiter is in the star ofKethu in IX. This is detrimental status for
him, the opponent and house owner, and a supporting point for
Mr.Rao.
Hence, I finally declared to my friend Mr.Rao that there shall
be a sudden support for him in the matter and he will con.tinue his
occupation ofthe house.
As predicted, there was a dramatic change. The owner as
planned took away the keys of the house taking passession and

Krishnarriurti Padhdhati 85
 was about to go away by 7 a.m. when the sudden intervention ofa
Police Officer shattered all his plans and he was obliged to return
the keys and hand over the house back to my friend and had to
leave the scene losing his face.
Now, a word to my beloved followers ofKP. I am obliged to ·
write these articles after the matters have come to pass. Some are
ofthe opinion that I am doing post mortem. Ifyou please look back
to 1970 & 71, our GURUJI used to write articles under caption
"POSTMORTEM NECESSARY" and you could notice such
articles by our GURUJI and when queried about that, Guruji told
me then that only through such articles we can substantiate the
efficacy ofthe significations and its usage by discussing that matters
that had already happened.
So with that in mind I have taken to write these articles to
force the utmost importance of the usage of the Sub Lord to the
minds ofKP. students. Ifi am commiting mistake, I may be pointed
out and I am bound to our beloved KP. fo1lowers to answer them,
by giving them satisfactory reply.
Further, I receive letters about the efficacy ofour KP. system
from a particular gentlemen and he writes to say that KP. is articale.
Poor man, why shoUld he KP not infallible? He can well the time for
some useful plllpOse instead offighting futile to prove KP. is infullible.
Perhaps he found infallibility in old Traditional system. I too know
about the Traditional system as I am an Astrologer from May, 1937.
He cannot tell me about it. He can look to better work than wasting
his time by writing pages after pages in letters.
Now, let me take up a natal chart and discuss the efficacy of
Sub theory.
Mrs. H was born at 7-15 a.m. IST on 27-5-1959 at
SIRGAZHI (Tanjore District) Tamil Nadu 11 -10'/79 48 '.
Ayanamsa 23 16' -48

86
Sub - Lord Speaks
 XII lq3' I 1°59'
XI 28°43'
Mercury Venus
Ketu
3°15'7" 25°4'1"
17°1 '59"
Sun 11°46'21" II 27°43'

Mars
X 25°43' NIRAYANA 3°45'58"
BHAVACHAKRAM III 25°43'
Balance in
... Moon period
IX 25°43'' 7 y - I m - 23 days
Moon IV 25°43'
13°5.5'20"

VIII 27°43'
Jupiter Rahu
Saturn(R)
2°47'15" 17°1'59"
12°32'25"
VI 1°43' V28°43'
VII 1°59'

Jupiter

The native is running the major period Rahu from 1973 July
to 1991 July. She lives in the vicinity of my place, came for
consultation during 1983 beginning. By then, she had completed
her College education and was after some job. She presented her
birth chart duly worked under KP by one Mr.RajagopalNadar,
and ardent KP follower in the locality.
I was scrutinising the birth chart and in that you may notice
the major Dasa lord Rahu inN and planet in tis stars. It is i.n ~e star
ofMoon in VIII, owning ill. Her query was about her gettmg mto a
good service. The Dasa Lord had no Xth or VIth si~fications at all
and I was about to tell her a negative reply.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 87
 I like to tell readers and KP followers that plan~tary Sub
Lord tells the nature offructification ofthe matter, but the cusps of
houses that tell such matters, tell the quantum o~such matters through
. the signification ofits Sub Lord. lbis is the difference. For example,
a planet signifies IT through its Sub and that tells it can give money.
How much? The Sub Lord ofthe IT cusp tell this. The quantum is
assessed though the strength of its siginification. This is how we
have to p.roceed.
Reverting to the matter, he said the Sub Lord Saturn is in VII·
and placed in the star ofKetu in X bhavam. Satums owns IX & X.
So he said she is getting employed soon, the current Rahu period
will give stability, occupationally and maritally
•
as weJall.
I
Ketu, the star lord· of the Sub Lord Satutn, being node,
represents Jupiter in VI and s0 Kethu acquires the Vl, VII matter,
both put together by one planet. Hence in Rahu period, she should
get good service, marriage as well, he stressed.
At the moment, she was running the bukthi ofMercury from
July 1981 to January 1984. Mohan also added with optimism that
before the end ofthis bukthi she is getting good service.
WHY? Mercury is in XII, in the star of Sun in Xll. Then
How? Mercury is in the Sub of Saturn ·in Vll signifying X, VI &
vn.Almost in the fag end ofthis bukthi she entered into service in
Madras TV Station on 23- 11-1983.
It was Venus bukthi from 8-2-85 to 8-2-88. Venus has no
planet in its stars and is in Lagna and is in the star ofJupiter in VI,
owning Vll, VIII & XI. The significations do not portray and foreign
travels when considered under stellar status. Kindly note the Sub
·Lord ofVenus; happens to be Mercury, in tum in the star of Sun in
XII. In this period she went to GULF on 13-6-1987 to join her
husband there under long sanctioned leave.

88 Sub - Lord Speaks

 During Sun bukthi ie... from 8-2-88 to 2-1-89 and Moon
bukthi from 2-1-89 to 2-7-90 she was here attending office with a
happy service life, in a confirmed status.
Yet again another birth chart I shall discuss and point out how
Sub Lord gives a helping hand in delineating the matters in in terms
of its significations.
Mr.Taj Ahmed, born on 7-10- 1926 at 11 -00 A.M. IST at
Chennai 13 4'-80 17'; Ayanamsa used 22 49'-1 '; Sidereal time
Hrs 11-51-35 Sees; balance in Mars period at birth Yrs6-9-8days.

VII
v 5°53' 0°1 '33"
IV 4°53' Mars (R) VI 3°53' 18°41 '48"
25°6' 5" VIII 29°53 '

II I 0 53'
' NIRAYANA
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Jup (R) Mars peri od at b irth
24°34'32" IX 1°53'
6 y - 9 m - 8 days

II 29°53' X 4°53 '

XII 3°53' XI 5°53' Ve8°52'40"
Kcthu
Sturn Saturn Sun21°22'44"
18°41 '48" 3°0'31 " Moon
0°44 '2 1"
10°1'13" 23°45'38"

,.ip•an
Jil
~!1t"~';>
~ ~x~~
.....
~;;f· ..
u , ... : .
v.;~ \ .,;-,,. '''Iii · ~4,~~ ~~o~
Pia~ ;,~. ..... .. . .t~~
,. ,. . .
,
·. ..~'

Sun !Venus Venus Venus

Moon Mars Saturn Mars
Mars Mercury Rahu Moon .
Mercury !venus Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Rahu

Kfishnamurti Padhdhati 89
 Mr Taj Bhai started his Rahu period in his age of7 and ended
at his age of25. How is Rahu?
Rahu has not planets in its stars and is in VII (Gemini 18 41 '-
48') and so Rahu signifies VII fully. As node it represents Mercury
in X. (No planets in Mercury stars) So Rahu attains X signification
through his representaion as node.
Rahu signifies V & Xll through Sub Lord Moon in X bhavam.
When he was hardly 17 years of age, he enterend Government
service at Madras Secretariat and it was then Mercury Bukthi (from
July 41 to January 44) Mercury is in the star ofMars in V owning V
& XII and so it signifies XII a full detriment to settle life through
service and profession. It is stellar status ofMercury.
Look into Mercury's Sub Lord. Itis Venus. Venus is in X and
owns VI & XI. Venus is in the star of Sun in X. This got him a
permanent service in Govenment Headquarters in Fort StGeorge
in the nearer vicinity ofbiggest Administrative Heads ofTamilnadu
Government, during November, 1942.
In the month of August, 1950 the native was on the brink of
getting arrested by Police, as he was involved in a very serious
troubl~; would have been criminally implicated, if providence did
not give him a kind helping hand. It was Mars bukthi in Rahu Dasa.
Mars bukthi is between June 50 and July 51.
His name was connected to the sudden death of boy and it
was coloured as suicidal one. Mars owns V & XII and is in V and
Mars is in the star of Venus in X owning VI XI. So Mars being a
feeble significator of V & XII, still has a very good benefic
significations ofX, VI & XI.
Through Sub, Mars signifies X, V, & Xll strongly (Mars is in
the Sub, Mercury in X, with no planet in its stars and owns VII,
Vlll, & X). So Mars through Sub signifies X, V, XII, VII, VIII
fully. The bad combination ofV, VII, VIII & XII through Sub had
given him agonistion situation in that bukthi, the lone X signification
through Sub extricated him from the trouble finally and without a
trace of bad name.
90 Sub ., Lord Speaks
 His father's demise.was during April, 1964 coinciding with
Mars bukthi in major period of Jupiter. Mars bukthi was running
between 15-3-63 and 21-2-65. Mars is in the star of Venus in X
and Venus owns IX & X in terms ofiX of cusp. So in terms of
strellar position Mars cannot bring abo~t the demise offather, as no
bhadhakadhipathyarn is coming in and should well protect father's
life to continue, as IIIrd signification is there. But, Mars in the Sub of
Mercury alone brought about the demise.
How? Mercury has no planet in its star in X. X is a
marakasthana for IX. As Sub Lord Mercury draws strength through
its stellar status, Mercuring being in the star ofMars in V, owning V.
Vth is the IX from IX, which is Leo. For Leo (Sthira Rasi) IXth
{Aries) is Bhadhakasthanas have combined for IX and it is derived
by Mars, the bukthinatha through its Sub Lord Mercury alone. Hence
the demise offather in Mars bukthi. Mars Anthara itself. As Dasa
Lord Jupiter also signifies TI & V through Sub. So demise offather.
Mr.Taj retired from his service at Secretariat on 31-12-1985.
On that day it was Jupiter bukthi in Major Saturn period. Jupiter is
in the II and owns I & IV. There are planets on Jupiter's star. Jupiter
is in the star ofMars in V, owning V & Xll. This tells end ofservice.
Jupiter is in the Sub ofRahu in VII signifying VII. As node Rahu
represents Mercury in X (No planet in Mercury stars) and so signifies
X, V & XII Repetition ofV & Xll through Sub of Jupiter> owning
Lagna retired signification ofMercury (representation fo Rahu the
Sub Lord ofJupiter) Mercury being in the star ofMars signifying X
through Venus attains Vl & XI, saw him retired with all happiness
and without any blemish.
Good Luck

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 91
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

( SUB • LORD SPEAKS }:

In continuation of my above series, I take up discussion of a
girl's horoscope, how the signification ofthe Sub Lord tells the matter
(what is now happening)
Chi.Rajalaksmi. born on 21-10-1967 at 3-15 p.m. IST at
Madras 13-4/80-17'/ Ayanamsam23-22' -30.

II Rahu
23-32-9 4-26-47 v
Saturn (R) IV 18-3 2-9
Moon 24-21-2
14-17-23 22-32-9
Ill 25-32-9

I
18-33-38 NIRAYANA VI
BHAVA C HAKRAM 16-26-48
Balance in
Ju pi ter
Venus period at birth
XII 6-47-4
3 y - 5 m - 23 days
16-26-48 Venus 18-7-6
VH 18-33-38

XI IX 25-32-9
X VIII
18-32-09 Me 23-53 -2
22-32-09 23-32-9
Mars Ke 4-26-47
4-39-53 Sun2-55-58

-":;. " .x ~ . ..('"; ;} - ~ - • ~~>C·-'i~:~$?~'" ~J

Stm Venus Venus Rahu
Moon Mercury Saturn Rahu
Mars Moon Rahu Moon
Mercury Saturn Kethu Venus
Jupiter Rahu

92 Sub - Lord. Speaks

 Now, this girl is running the major period ofJyiars from 13-4-
1987 for 7 years.
Mars is in Xth house and there are Sun and Kethu in its ~'tars/
So Mars is devoid ofXth signification. Mars is in the star ofKethu
in Vlllth. Hence, Mars is branded as a full significator ofVID and
so Mars period is rendered useless ofmaterial benefits.
In this period only, she passed B.Sc., and graduated without
failure during Rahu bukthi, between 10-9-88 and 28-9-89. Then
successfully qualified in Hindi aslo, and got a permanent job during
the beginning ofJupiter bukthi , from 28-9-89 to 9-4-90. The period
of Mars from 13 -4-87 for 7 years, which signifies V III fully has
been giving these results during his period.
How? is the question.
Now; look into the Sub Lord of Mars, the Dasa Lord. It is
Moon, Moon is in II and no planet is in its stars and Moon owns VI
also. So Moon is a full significator ofll & VI. Moon is in the star of
Venus on the Vllth cusp. duly. owning IV & IX cusps. So, finally
moon signifies ll, VI, IV, IX & VII. Mars in the Sub ofMoon should
give her good education and stable permanent service.
In Rahu bukthi, she was graduated. Node Rahu is in the star
ofKethu in Vlll, and in the Sub ofMoon and signifies II, IV, VI, &
IX. This has given her successful education with graduation.
With the beginning ofJupiter bukthi, she entered a lucrative,
and permanent service in LIC . Discuss Jupiter. It is in VI and there
is Mercury in its star. So it is not a significator ofVI, II & XI. It is in
the Sub ofRahu and it is posited in II and no planet in its stars. As
Node Rahu represents Mars and gets the signification of X as lo.
Rahu is in the star of Kethu in VIII. In .esseHce, Rahu has the
signification ofll & X which gave her service in Jupiter bukthi.
The parents ofthe girl consulted C)ri Mohan in my presence
regarding her marriage. He predicated that she would get married in
Saturn bukthi. between 4-9-90 and 13-10- 1991 , preferably in
Jupiter Anthara (from 20-8-91 to 13-10-91)

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 93
 Discuss Saturn. It is in the Sub ofRahu, signifying II & Vlll
and through Kethu its star lord gets Vllth signification also as Kethu
represents Venus in its own star on the Vllth cusp (VIIth cusp is in
the Sub ofRahu and Venus is also in Rahu Sub). ·
Hence Saturn attains full lind, VIIIth & Vllth through Sub
~~ ~o marriage is predicated. Sri.Mohan chose Jupiter anthara as
IS IS m the Sub ofRahu and so again II, VII & VII repeats.

. Let me take up another chart for discussion, the birth chart of

Sn Jayaram (Papi). Born on 16-4-1955 at 11-52 p.m. IST at
Chennai 13-4 '/80- 17'. Ayanamsa used 23-13 '-27.

Mars Moon Rahu Rahu

Mercury Rahu Rahu Moon
Jupiter Venus

IV Ketu 6-37-24
28-19 Sun VIII 19-57-59
2-46-01 VI
Mercury 24-19 Jupiter
25-45-21 V27-19
28-08-30
Venus
27-21- 41
III VIII
NIRAYANA
25- 19 21-9
BHAVACHAKRAM
II 21-19 Balance in
Moon Moon period at birth
17-51-16 4 y - 0 m - 14 days IX
Mars 10-42-14 25-19

I Saturn
19-57-59 XII 26-16-28 X
Rahu 24- 19 XI 28-19
6-37-14 27-19

94 Sub - Lord Speaks

 The native ofthis birth chart is now running the major period
ofjupiter from 30-4-1984 for 16 years.
Jupiter is in VII in its own star and owns I & IV. Jupiter is a
major significator ofVll, feeble signi:ficator ofl & IV. He got married
in the fag end ofMoon bukthi, Rahu period during February, 1983.
Discuss Moon ifit can give marriage.
Moon is in Langa bhavam in its own star and owns VIII and
no planet in Vill. So Moon fully signifies I & VITI. But Moon is in
Mercury Sub, and Mercury is in its own star Revathi, in III and it
ownsVII&X.
So, the signification ofthe Dasa Lord Rahu in Dhanus, attains
the signification ofVII through Jupiter and Bukthi of Moon III &
VII through Sub Lord Mercury, got him married in Moon bukthi.
The VIll, I signification ofMoon through stellar status and Xth through
Sub did not leave him without giving him agonising situations during
marriage itself
Such situations continued and he entered the major Dasa of
Jupiter on 30-4-1984 and the matrimonial trouble surfaced into
serious dimensions.
As already discussed, Jupiter is a major significator of VII
and feeble significator ofl & IY. Vll should save him from rnatrimoial
problems. No, IT DID NOT and on the contrarry, his wife left him
finally to her father's house and divorce case filed against him with
the advent ofJupiter period, Saturn anthara during September, 1985.
Satrun is in X and no planet in Saturn's stars. Saturn is in the
star ofJupiter in VII. Saturn is in the Sub ofKethu in VI.
Kethu is in the star of Mars in I, owning XII & V. Satrun
signifies X, Vll, VI & Xll, detrimental significations for matrimonial
bondage. The case for divorce was filed and a notice was received
by him during Saturn anthara.
Under stellar strength, the major Dasa Lord Jupiter attains
major signification of VII as he is in its own star Punarpoosam in

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 95
Vllth bhavam. Then HOW didJupiterwidenedthecleave between
the couple?
Look into the Sub Lord ofJupiter, it is Venils. Venus owns
VI &XI and is in the star ofJupiter in VII owning I & IV. Jupiter
gets the affiction ofVI, I & IV also through Sub and it really affected
his matrimonial status.
The case dragged on and it ended abruptly on 27-9-90 during
Mercury bukthi. Jupiter anthara. Why Mercury bukthi?
Mercmy is in the star Revathi, in ill bhavam and owns VII & X
But, Mercury is in the Sub ofRahu in XII and Rahu is in the
star ofKethu in VI. The significator Mercury. attaining VI & XII
ended the matrimonial life during Jupiter anthara who has IV & VI
through Sub.
I take up yet another birth chart, to sub theory of our great
GURUJI KSK and it is the birth chart of Chi Laksluni. D/o Sri
C.C.V. Born of 112 February, 1972 at 4-1 a.m. 1ST. Tuesday/
Wednesday at Vellore 12.55/79-11.
Ayanamsam23 ' -27' -32'

Moon
Jupiter Rahu

96 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Mars Saturn
6-118-00 VII
IV 0-50-55
VI 12-00-18
19·13-49 v
19-13-49 16-03-49

Ketu
Venus
11 -29-09
26-23-15 NIRAYANA
VIII 13-13-49
m 16-13-49 BHAVACHAKRAM
-Balance in IX
Su 18-43-49 Venus period at birth
II 13-13-49 16-13-49
13 ~ - 0 m - 19 days Moon
Ra 11-29-9
Me 08-5..()0 17-56-47

I
12-00-18 XII X
XI
Jupiter 16-13-49 19-13-49
19-13-49
5-37-23

The parents of the girl Lakshmi consulted me about her

education and other prospects.
Current major period of Sun which is to end by 1-3-91 was
discussed Sun is in ll in the star ofMoon in IX. Sun is in the Sub of
Mercury in I signifying II again. So, I declared that this period had
given her good education in terms ofll & IX. As Moon, the star
lord of Sun owns vm and as there is no planet in Vlll, I surmised
some health trouble for her.
In the process of discussion, as I indicated the health matter,
the parents were gazing at me as if they are expecting some more
information. Without looking into the future period I was discussing
Sun period and its efficacy as it attains II again through Sub, which
brightened her prospects in her educational life.
In the meantime Sri. Mohan, who looked into the chart and
discussed the major Dasa of Moon due to start shortly on 1-3 -91.
He said moon is in IX in the star ofVenus in Ill owning VI & XI and
so it is a fine period forprogresing the education and other prospects.
But, also dragged his words that Moon owns VTII and is in the Sub
ofMars in IV and owns XII and has no planet in its stars. Further,

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 97
 Mars is in the star ofKethu in Vll in Cancer and as Node signifies
VIII also as the cusp is in Cancer.
He ope~y told the parents that there shall be some serious ill
health for the girl and that would end up in sugery during the above
Dasaan~ bukthi, between 1-3-91 and 1-1 -92 preferablyinRahu
antharai.e., between4-4-91 and 19-5-91. WhyRahuanthara?

·v Rahu is.in. the star of Moon in IX owning vm and noplanet

~ ill. Rahu ISm the Sub ofMars in IV owning XII and no planet
m .t:'fars star~. Again Mars is in the star ofKethu in VII in Cancer
~hich contains VIDth·cusp.

Surgical treatment will be there and it will be successful as

Rahu the
. .anthara lord is a full significator ofLogna, as there ISnO
.
pIanet m 1ts stars.

To my astonishment, the parents were magnaimous to openly

a~ept ~e prediction starting that the girl is suffering from a serious
ailment m her head portion and a major operation is already fixed
by Doctors to be conducted during 4th week ofApril, 1991.
This confinned ourcoviction in this theo.ty ofour great GURUJI
and were are emboldened to talk aloud that Sub Lord SPEAKS
weU. so

Good Luck

98
Sub - Lord Speaks
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB LORD SPEAKS )

With the blessings ofour Guruji Sri KSK. I am successfully
progressing in my series "Sub Lord Speaks" and I hope I will
continue to force this matter what our Guruji has left this in 1972.
Last week I got a letter from Mr. C.S. Tiwari of Kanpur
questioning the autenticity ofthe Ayanamsa being used by me and
he added to say that I am deviating from Sri KSK and hisAyanamsa.
He also drew my attention towards the book Reader No.I (K.P)
Pages 55 to 57. I wrote back to him duly pointing out that I am a
strict follower of Sri KSK and his principles; and required ofhim to
work out Ayanamsa on those lines that our Guruji had directed
strictly, viz, ( 1) use the rate to precession every year of NEW COl\ffi
being 50. 2388475 seconds, (2) he advised to take the year of
coincidence ofboth the zodiac being291 AD.
Any body using the above directions of Sri KSK is liable to
arrive at the Ayanamsa, I am using viz. 5 minutes and odd higher.
Reverting to the matter, now I take up the horoscope of Chi
G.V.R. who is a student of a college and he had dire necessity to
have a motor vehicle and he got it in March' 91.
Let us discuss the significations ofhis period on the day he
got the vehicle.
He was born on 17-10-1967 at 7-16 p.m 1ST at Chennai
130- 04' I 80°-17 Ayanamsa used 230 -23'-20".

v Moon XI Venus
VI Kethu XII Venus

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 99
 Sun Mercury Venus Stm
Moon Venus Saturn Rahu
Mars Venus · Rabu Moon
Mercmy Satum Kethu Venus
Jupiter Ra1ru

Moon20..57-50 Rahu
XIJ20-IS-53 4--41-17 II III
&mn(R) I 25-22-24 23-18-53 19- 18-53
14-34-42 Lagna

XI N
16-18-53 NIRAYANA 16-18-53
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance Mercury Period
11 y-6 m - 10 day. Jupittr6-23-44
X
Venus 16-1-49
16-18-53
V 16-IS-53

IX VII 25-22-24
19-18-53 vm Me 23- 13-55 VI
Mars 23-18-53 Ke 4-41-17 20-18-53
2-41- 14 Sun0-12-25

The native is now in the major period ofvenus fromApril1986

for 20 Years :
Venus is in IV in its own star and owns n & VII d
1 t th · s . . an no
P ~e s erem. ott Stgnifies IV, II, & Vll. Venus bukthi is from
Apnl 86 ~o August 89. In 1986 he felt dire necessity for a vehicle
and d~tte ~ell ~IV signification ofVenus through stellar did no~
favour him wtth this comfort? WHY?
. . Venus is in the Sub ofSun in VI, owning V without any planet
~ tts stars, ~d so Sub signifies VI & V Sun is in the star of Mars
m Vlll, ownmg I and no planet in l So Venus through Sub signifies
I, VI, V, & Vlli and these does not confer him vehicular orhousehold
comforts.
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 Next, moving to Sun bukthi which is betweenAugust 89 and
August 90, let us discuss the significations ofSun in the birthchart.
. Sun is in VI and no planet in its stars and it signifies VI & V
and Sun is in the constellation ofMars in VITI owning I. So stellar-
wise Sun signifies I, V,VI, & VID. Sun is in the Sub ofMercury and
so signifies IV& IX and as it is in the star ofJupiter in IV oWJ}ing IX
& XII, In fact, he got in possession ofone .old motor vehicle which
too often went out of order and gave m:uch trouble and is in the
shed, unused. Now, it is Moon bhukthi from August 90 to.April92.
His request to his father got fructified ~uring March 91 and he was
provided with a brand new motor vehicle during March 91.
The students may note that the signification ofMoon are ID,
VI & XII. HOW? Moon is in XII and no planet in its stars and it
owns IV and there are planets in IV. Moon is in the star ofMercury
in VI owning ill&VI. This is stellar status and the s~gnifications duly
portray a negation to purchase of new vehicle and detrimental to
vehicular or household comforts (III X XII).
Then, how he got a new motor vehicle costing to the tune of
Rs. 11,500/-? Here the Sub Lord Speaks.
You may notice that the Bukthinatha Moon is in 20° -57'-50"
in Pisces and it is in Venus Sub. In the birth chart, Venus owns ll&
VII and is in Leo 16° ;..1 '-49" ie., Pooram star and it is in IVth
bhavam. Venus is in Leo 16°-1 '-49" in Sun Sub and Vth cusp is in
16° -18'- 53" in Leo in Moon Sub. So it is construed that Venus is
in IVth bhavam orily as these are in different Subs.
So Venus signifies II&IV fully, in whose Sub, Moon is situated
So inspite ofMoon's stellar significations ofill & XII a direct
detriment to vehicular and household comforts, Moon could give
him a very new motor vehicle in this bukthi. ·
•
One more matter to add in this connection. The same ll &
• t

IV signification ofVenus the Sub Lord of Moon, the bukthinatha

is giving him a new house also, the construction of which is
underway from 14-3-91 and house is intended for him only as
indicated by his father.
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 Further, Venus being the major Dasa Lord, it is noticed from
the beginning ofthe period i.e., from April1986, the boy has become
a regular Cricketeer and one ofthe State League players.
You may ask, how Venus being in its own star in IVth house
had connected him to Sports?
Here you must look into the Sub ofVenus. It is Sun and it is
the owner ofVth cusp and is in VI having no planet in its stars and
no planet in Vth bhavam. So sun the Sub Lord ofthe Dasanatha
Venus signifies V fully and V stands for Sports, here Cricket.
•
The boy is a regular player of Cricket from Apri186 and is
acclaimed to be a good batsman.
A word to the readers of this Magazine K.P.& Astrology I
am getting enquiries why I am not discussing the Cuspal Sub Lord.
My reply for them is as follows :
I had already written many articles on this point in Astrology
and Athrishta and a detailed one during 1984 under caption The
Cuspal Sub Lord and its Impact on dasa Effects". So they may
again read that article to widen their knowledge on cuspal Sub Lord.
Further, I may like to advise the stUdents ofKP that Sri KSK
had time '41d again stressed upon the point that stellar signification
ofa planet tells purely the matter, the Sub Lord decidedly points out
ifthe matter fructifies or not and in what direction and depth. And
the cuspal sub lord is very different to tell the quantum and density
of such matters as sanctioned by the strength ofthe sub lord duly
controlled by its star lord.
I feel I have explained in a divisible manner about star lord,
sub lord of the relevant planet and cuspal sub lord representing
those matters shown by the significator ofthe relevant Bhavas.
Good Luck

102 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB - LORD SPEAKS I

IX comes only when one goes above graduation and also
when he takes up research, etc. Of course XI is imperative for
fulfilment ofdesires. I like to tell him, he should understand that ll
also will give the desired effects as it tells about the owning ofanything.
So it is not a hard and fast rule that XI alone is a must, to make
anyone well educated to higher standard.
I have come across many a horoscope without the support of
XIth signification, the natives are graduated and post graduated and
make successful research also and if you look into it, II is found
there.
Now I take up the horoscope of Sri Sridaramurthy born at
10-20 p.m. IST advanced time (corrected 9-20 pm) on 16-9-1942
:tt Trivellore (Chennai) 13-9n9-57 Ayanamsarn 23-2-20. Balance
in Saturn period at birth 0 years; 6 months; 17 days and the birth
:hart is as under.

Jupiter Venus

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 103

 Saturn III 19-57
XII I 26-2-36 Jupiter
19-24-46
20-57 Lagna 27-23-2
II 23-57

XI
16-57 N
Kethu NIRAYANA 16-57
10-6-6 BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Saturn period at birth Rahu 10-6-6
X Venus
16-57 0 y - 6 m - 17 days
14-27-25
v 16-57
vm Su 0-6-1
IX 23-57 Mar 6-28-50
VII VI 20-57
19-57 Moon 26-2-36 Mercury
16-1 7-92 26-27-23

The native ofthis birth chart Sri Sridharamurthy is a big Officer

in a Nationalised Banl{. He entered in Bank service during 1965 in
the major period ofKethu and in the bukthi of Saturn which ran
from 27-2-65 to 6-4-66.
Saturn is in Lagna bhavam and Moon is in Saturn star
Anusham. So, Saturn is foneited to signify l..agna, X & XI . As it is
in the star ofMoon in Vll, owning IV. Saturn signifies IV & VII ,
Wlder stellar strength. But he has entered service in this bukthi only.
How?
Now look into the Sub Lord ofSaturn. It isM~. Mercmy
owns VI and it is posited in VI. As there is no planet in its stars, it
fully signifies VI. His Bank service started in the Saturn anthara
itselfi.e. by middle of March, 1965 and the signification of Saturn
as above and it is connected to house of service through Sub and
Sub alone.

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 By 4-7-1987 this Officer started his major period of Sun and
it is for 6 years.
In this birth chart Sun is in 8-6' -1 in Virgo corresponding to
Vth bhavam. So Sun is in its own star Uthiram in Vth bhavam and
owns Vth cusp also. It is stellar status of Sun and he signifies fully
Vth bhavam. So with such a signification one should lose service of
serious matters in the venue of service like suspenSion ofavoding
venue ofservice apprehending trouble from co-worke rs. It has not
happened.
In the meanthime I like to introduce one matter ofseriousness.
In the previous period ofKethu bukthi (Venus major period) did
run from 4-1-86 to 4-3-87. During Kethu bukthi he was involved
with some very serious matters to the extent oflosingjob. Let us
discuss Kethu. Kethu is in the star ofRahu in IV. So IVth being a
detrimenrto Xth, the house of profession. It had given him lot of
agonising situations. The same Kethu is in the Sub ofJupiter ill in
the own star, it has given a protection though the trouble continued,
but transferred to Hyderabad.
With the advent ofSun period March, 1987 the matter settled
and pass dawned.
As discussed above, Sun signifies V fully a detriment to service.
Then how is settled the matters pertaining to service Look into the
Sub Lord of Sun. It is Rakhu and Rahu is in the star ofKethu in Xth
bhavam. As node Kethu fu!ly represents both the house of Saturn
i.e. X & XI and Saturn is in Lagna. Now, Sun period is upto March
1993 and he is enjoying higher status in Bank as a Regional Manager.
He is my close relative and so I know his position in Office.
Next I take up another nativity of Sow Radha, D/0 Sri
Venkatachari. Sow Radha born at 1-3 0 am. 1ST on 30 June/1st
July. 1967 at Chengleput 12-42/80-1 Ayanmasa used 23-23-20
and the birth chart is as follows.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 105

 Mo on I 10-1-31 Ill
26-29-50 6-49-3
Saturn Lagna II
9-49-3 Sn 14-57-00
18-34-20 Rahu Mer (R)
XII 4-49-3 10-21-10 27-48-40
IV2-49-3
XI Jupiter
1-49-3 13-45-40
NIRAYANA Venus
BHAVACHAKRAM 29-56-10
Balance in
Merc ury period at birth
X
4 y -5 m - 11 days
v
2-49-3 1-49-3

Kethu VI
IX VIII 10-21-10 4-59-3
6-49-3 9-49-3 VII Mars
10-1-31 28-35-10

Jupiter Rahu

The father ofthe girl Sri Venkatachari consulted me during

May, 1990 when I had predicted that she will get married shortly
during October / November 1990 i.e. when SlUl be transits the VIIth
bhavam corresponding with Jupiter bukthi, Venus anthara It did to
pa~s and marriage celebrated on31-1 0-1990. Let me discuss the
:::igni li ntlt(lJlS ofthe period brought about the marriage. i.e. Jupiter
a:rd ·. ·. ~> "" ·

Currently it is the major period ofVenus from December 78

to December 98. Venus owns II & VII and is in IV. No planet in its
stars and so it signifies IV, II & VII. It is in the Sub of Saturn in XII
and Satu:rir is in the star ofMecury in III owning III & VI. As there
is a planet in VI Saturn gets Signification of III only by the

106 Sub - Lord Speaks

occupational strength ofMercury. So Venus major period can give
marriage, with some delays.
The bukthi lord Jupiter had brought about the marriage. Let
us discuss, how?
Jupiter is in IV in the star of Saturn in XII owning X & XI and
so signifies XII, XI, as X Here XII negates the marriage and XI
gives positive step in this direction feeblyas it is routed through XII.
With these signification marriage cannot be envisaged.
So, I looked into the Sub lord of1upiter and it is Rahu, and it
is in Lagna, there are planets in its stars.
Rahu is in Kethu star, and Kethu is in Vllth bhavam. Hence
the Sub Lord ofJupiter signifies fully VII through its Sub Lord status.
Hence marriage had been concluded in Jupiter bukthi, in Venus
anthara and Venus as discussed above, fully signifies IV, ll & VII as
there are no planets in its stars.
Yet another horoscope I give below to substantiate the efficacy
ofthe strength ofSub Lord ofplanets in deciding the fructification of
matters.
Sow Savithri (my grand daughter) was born at 4-05 am 1ST
on i0/ 11-4-1966 at Madras 13-04/80- 17 Ayanamsa 23-22-30.
The horoscope is as under:
11 27~0 ' 25 " Mars Rahu Jupiter
Sa27°13'3 1" 1 ~7' 18 " 3°59' II " 2~3'2 8 "
Sa0° 15 '35" ill IV v
Me 1~0 ' 1 0" 28°20'25 " 25~0'25" 2 10Z0'25"
Lagna
I 21°49' 18" v
Venus NIRAYANA 19°20'25"
10°54'24" BHAVACiiAKRAM
Balance in
XII Ketu period at birth
Vll
19°20'25" 3 y - 4 m • 22 days 2 1U49 ' )8"

XI '· X
21°20'25" 25°20' 25" VIII
IX
Moon Ketu 27"20'25"
28°20'25"
6°52'44" 3°59' 1 I"

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 Sun Jupiter Venus Saturn
Moon Rahu Saturn Moon
Mars Venus Rahu Saturn
Mere Rahu Kethu Saturn
Jupiter Kethu

The girl got married on 19-11-1987, corresponding with the

major period of Venous running from September, 1969 to
September, 1989 in the bukthi ofMercucy from 2-9-85 to 2-7-88.
Venus is in ths star ofRahu and so signifies ill and it is a good
signification for marital matters and no planet in its stars and so XII
also and as in the Sub ofSaturn signifies IV & XI. So.the signification
ofXI gives a strength for marital life only when a suitable bukthi
signifying VII comes, the marriage comes up. As the marriage had
taken place in the bukthi of Mercury, then Mercury should have
significations required for marrriage ie II & VII.
Let us discuss what Mercucy signifies. Mercury is in Lana
bhavam and owns V & Vill. There is Sun in its star and so it does
not signify V & vm. Mercury is in the star ofJupiter in IV, Jupiter
owns II & XI. No Planet in XI. So Mercury signifies IV fully along
with XI. This will not bring about marriage, as IVth signification is a
detriment in this direction. Then how it had taken.place in this bukthi
ofMercury?
Now look into the Sub Lord ofMercury it is Rahu. Rahu is in
the star of Sun the lind cusp (as Sun and II Cusp are in and the
same Sub ofJupiter) owning and planet in VII. Through Sub Lord
Dasa Lord Venus has XI as its, signification through its Sub Lord
Saturn. Hence Mercury bhukthi the entire combination ofll, VII &
IX have come up and marriage taken place in this bukthi.
Just a couple ofmonths earlier to the marriage date, Mr.Vaikari
Ramamurthy had visited my house. As I was very eager to take up

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 the marriage matter of my grand daughter, I have just shown the
horoscope and he had written the month ofmarriage to be November,
1987 duly discussing the above matters. Thus the dominating status
of Sub Lord ofprediction is substantiated here through these birth
.charts.
"OM TAT SAT'

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 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB - LORD SPEAKS I

For example, the consultant Sow Viji came for consultation
during July 1990 and presented her birthchart and it is detailed
herelUlder.
Born on 7-1 -1 963 at 6-36 pm 1ST at 12-55'/79-11'
Ayanarnsa23-19' -59', Sidereal time 1-28-12. Balance in Moon
period at birth OY-8M-20 Days.

Jupiter Venus

XI
2-29-58 XII
X 2-40-0 1
Moon
0-29-24
22-22-58
IX I OI-)I-59
28-29-24 Rahu
Jupiter NIRAYANA 07-00-22
16-23-00 BHAVACHAKRAM II 28-29-24
Balance in
VIII 28-29-24 Mars
Sat17 -20-17 Moon period at birth
00-37-28
Me 11 -57-50 0 y - 8 m - 20 days
Ke 7-00-22 III
VIII-51-59 28-29-24
Sun Venus
2 3- 19-18 07-22-56 IV
V1 v 00-29-24
. 02-40-01 02-29-24

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 The native is running the major period ofJupiter from 27-9-
88 and it is for 16 years. Jupiter bukthi is from 27-9-88 to 15-11-
90. What does Jupiter signify?
Jupiter is in VIII and owns VI no planet in its stars So it signifies
Vill and does not signify VI July as Sun is situated there, so a feeble
VI . And further Jupiter is in the star ofRahu in Lagna in Katakam,
which contains Lagna and lind cusp. So Jupiter signifies I & II also
strongly. This is stellar strength of Dasanatha and reveals go od
material background.
But, she suffered a lot. There was dearth offinance and it was
very acute and further there was litigation with the Government in
ronnection with house sites worth 10 lakhs. Money drained through
litigation. Though there were sources of money, all were blocked
and she suffered to have the basic amenities, starvation too haunted
her, when she carne for consulation. Inspite ofJupiter attaini ng the
full signification fo Lagna and II the suffering was acute, why? The
Sub Lord speaks.
Jupiter is in the Sub ofVenus. Venus signifies VII & IX strongly
and VII feebly. VII gave her many a petty quarrel with her business
partners who betrayed and duped her. IX brought about the
complete failure and closure ofher business factory, landing the native
with all round commitments. To put in a nutsherl, entire Jupiter bukthi
with all her high material standards, suffered with all round troubles
and acure shortage of finance. You may please note her that she is
the only daughter of a Crorepathi. Then she started her Saturn
bukthi on 15-11-1990.
Let us discuss Saturn. It i.s in VII owning Vii, VIII & IX.
Though feeble, the significations are not conclusive. Saturn is in the
star of Moon in XI owning Lagna & II. So it reveals a clearance
and improvement in material position. Has the improvement been
effected, we shall discuss here in terms of sub lord. She received a
big legacy to the tune of several lakhs from her fa ther during
November, 1990 with the advent ofSaturn bukthi. Further, she had
won the litigation in connection with her house sites and she is

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 freelance to dispose the property worth severallcikhs. The above
improvement has been indicated by me when she came here dwing
July 1990.
Now she has been allotted with a new car by her father and
she is on the look out to purchase a big house in a posh locality.
How such a big material transformation she had attained now
in the bukthi of saturn with the stellar signification of XI, where
Jupiter with stellar signification ofLagna and II could not give her
such an improvement materially.
Jupiter with all the good beneficial signification ofLagna and
II had been negated to give peace, as he was in to Sub ofVenus full
signifcatior ofVll & n.
Whereas Saturn with an equal star signification ofXI, could
elevate her matter standards more than 30 times, as Saturn was in
its own Sub and thus signifying XJ & I fully.
This is only to emphasise that sat alone can decide and show
how much the matter as shown by the stellar signification can benefit
the native or otherwise.
Good Luck

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 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB - LORD SPEAKS l

I give below again some ofhis golden sentences together with
page number also for those who still entertain the idea that I am
over doing the matter.
Further a planet in the sub ofan evil planet, indicates loss,
difficulty or failure where as the same planet in the same star, but in
the sub ofa benefic promises success, gain and pleasure.
The lord ofthe constellation may indicate the matter ofthe
Vllth house. The planet in the sub ofa malefic causes enmity where
as that in the sub ofbenefic brings in harmony and happiness. Also,
the planet in the sub ofan evil one threaten, loss in litigation, whereas
that in the sub of a benefic indicates victory even though the
constellation lord denotes litigation.
If a planet indicates business and the planet in benefic sub
promises profit, whereas that in the sub ofan evil one threatens loss.
The lord ofthe constellation may show any one walk oflife to
the native. It is the sub which decides whether the area is
advantageous or not, and there by indicates whether the planet
occupying there in will offer desirable results ofadverse ones.
Page 127: For a Makara lagna native, if planet were to be
CIDTI-IIRAI and according to KP system, ifit is in the sub ofSaturn
them the native will surely gain and be happy because there will be
neither delay nor disappointment. But is the same person has got
another planet in the same starjust prior to it, in the sub ofJUPITER,
this planet even though under the sway ofMars and indicates the
matter of IV and XI, yet it brings loss, failure in attempt,
disappointment in life, partition and separation from partner etc as

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the sub lord is JUPITER i.e. the sub is governed by the planet
indication matters ofXIIth house.
There fore it is necessary to note whether a planet is in the
sub of planet which promises agreeable results to him or
disadvantageous.
Page 128: Ifthe planet is in a constellation denoting evil results,
but the sub lord is a benefic, then even though he may suffer, yet
temporarily during the period he has little relief from the adverse
results.
Page 129: But according to Krishnamurthy system, the planet
which is considered to be benefic by lordship offers the results
signified by it, thro the planet deposited in its constellation.
Benefic planets offer the results thro the depositors in their
constellation, only when the sub is also governed by benefic. Ifthe
sub is ruled by a malefic, the depositors cannot bring offavourable
results.
For example to scorpio born native Jupiter rules II & V. If
planets occupy anyone ofthe stars ofJupiter then the planet tenanted
in its constellation has to offer the results indicated by Jupiter.
Ifthe sub is governed by Lord ofXI, then the person gets a
child. Ifthe sub is ruled by lord ofXll, no child will be born during
the period of planet in the sub governed by lord of XII.
Hence the planet is the source, constellation indicating nature
of the matter .and the sub is deciding factor whether matters if
favourable or not.
Page 138 & 139: If a planet signifies lagna bhava and it is in
the sub ofthe significator of8, he meets with danger. Ifthe sub lord
signifies XI1 one runs away or injured and hospitalised.
Therefore constellation lord shows whom or which
matter it. refers. But the deciding factor good or bad ,

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success or failure is shown by the sub occupied by the
significator.
Suppose a plant A is the significator ofllnd whereas it is in
the sub ofVI, one borrows but if it is in the sub ofVIII or XII, he
lends to others or repays loan.
Suppose a planet is the significator ofVII house and ~fit is in
the sub of II or XI, one gains, there is reunion one gets roamed etc.,
Ifit is in the sub ofthe significator ofXII, separation or ill health to
wife. If it is in the sub ofl & II danger to partners life.
Ifin the sub ofIV, partner gains, makes money.
Thus one should note separtely with each planet signifies and
in which sub each planet is posited.
Let me now substantiate the above lines ofour Guruji with an
illustration. Below is the birth chart ofSri Sehadri who has risen to a
high status ofDy.General Manager in Central services from a me
class mentering service along with me.
He was born at 12-16 pm (Noon) 1ST on 25-1-1933, at
Madras 13 04' - 80 17' Ayanamsa 22 54'-52.9'.

Ill
XII 119-5-10 II 14-40-27
13-40-27 17-40-27

Rahu
(16-41-47) IV
NIRAYANA
Xll0-40-27 10-40-27
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Moon 2-46-18 Sun period at birtb
v 10-40-27
Ke 16-41-4
Mer 2-47-50 3 y - 3 m - 2 days
Sat 13-58-36 Mars (R1
27-14-4
Sn 11 -57-50 Jup (R) 29-52-47
X 10-40-27
Venus VI
20-39-47 VIII VII ;
13.40-27
IX 17-40-27 19-5- 10
14-40-27

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 Sun Rahu Venus Jupiter
Moon Jupiter Satwn Jupiter
Mars Sun Rahu Venus
Mercmy Jupiter Kethu Moon
Jupiter Rahu

ThenativeofthischartwasrunningthemajorperiodofJupiter
dasa from 27-4-1971 - 27-4-1987.
Jupiter is in V, and no planet in its stars and so it signifies v
~&~. '
Jupiter is in the star ofSun in X, owning V. So again it signifies
X, but not V as there are planets in v.
Summing up Jupiter signifies V, XI, XII and the lord X, under
stellar strength.
. I know him personally while in class ill status itselfand it was
then m the fag end of~allU ~ajor period which ended by April
1971 and when the maJOr penod ofJupiter started he was elevated
to class n status.
During this period of 16 years, he enjoyed 3 elevations and
finally promoted to Dy.C?vffi post during January 1985 as he entered
Rahu bhukti., and it was an Administrative post in Railways.
. Thus he rose well in this period of Jupiter which ended by
Apn1_19~7 and by then he was transferred to RITES a separate
orgamsation connected to Rlys under Rly Board.
With the significations ofJupiter such as V, IX, XII & X under
stellar stre~gth, one cannot predict such a rise unless it is well
entrenched m a powerful sub with benefic signification.
Here, Jupiter is in the Sub ofRahu. Rahu is in its own star m
XI and as node Rahu represents Saturn in X owning X & XI. As

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Jupiter thro star signifies V and thro sub X & Xi and so he had his
children well educated and got them well settled occupationally.
As Jupiter signifies IX & XI also under stellar status and X &
XI thro sub, has given him heavy overseas travelling and he used to
tell me that he had travelled all round the world under official capacity.
(Almost all European countries & USA)
As Jupiter signifies Xth under stellar status and X & XI thro
he has risen from class ill to Junior administrative rank in this period.
As further it was the bhukti ofRahu from 7-12-84 to 27-4-
87.
Rahu is in its own star in XI and so under stellar strength. He
acquires the Xlth signifiation and as NODE represents Saturn in X
and so he is a full significator ofX. & XI under stellar strength. As it
is in the sub of Venus signifying II & IX, he was negated to get the
senior administrative status though more was expected by him (IX
negates rise professionally).
Then he started the major period of Saturn on 27-4-87 & it is
for 19 years. It was Saturn bhukti from27-4-87 to 30 -4-90.
Saturn is in the star ofMoon in IX and no planet in Saturn
stars; Here under steller strength it attains IV, IX, X significations.
The native was elevated to Dy.General Manager status by
June 1987 in the period of a planet signifying IV & IX which as
detrimental for elevation to such a status.
Then how? Saturn is in the sub ofJupiter stationed in the star
of Sun in X and so thro Sub it gets X signification and hence this
elevation ofenviable status.
.I know Mr. Seshadri simply as a class I1I staff in Rlys in the
eat~ y years, justequal to my status, and he has risen to Dy.General
Manager status and retired I shall explain how all the planets are
beneficial and elevated him materially as they were stationed in
beneficial SUBS with good signification.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati l17

 IV, IX Sun Rahu XI&X
X Moon Jupiter X, V, XII
I, VIII, V, X Mars Sun IV&IX
III, Vl, IX, X Mercury Jupiter X, V, XII
X,V, XII Jupiter Rahu XI&X
II, VIII, IX Venus X, V, XII
IV, IX, X Saturn Jupiter X, V, XII
X,Xl Rahu Venus II, VII, IX
II, V, VII, IX Ketu Moon X

So from the break up ofthe above figures, you may please

note that every planet except Mars, is getting at least 2 beneficial
signification, thro sub and so the native had risen so well in his material
life.
Good Luck

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 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB • LORD SPEAKS I

In my endeavour to enforce the efficacy ofsublord in the way
predictions, I could get many nativities that pass thro my hand for
prognostication and so I do make progress in this series.
Now I take up the Horoscope of Sri, P.S., my lawyer friend,
born on 3-12-1932 at 11-25 Noon I.S.T. at Ongole 15 30'/ 80 6'
Ayanamsa 22-56-2.

Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Moon

ll7 °52' Ill 10°52' IV~52' v 5°52'

Rahu
VI
1~1 ' 43 "
NIRAYANA 1°5 2'
I 1~6'
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Mo28 °11'10" Mars period at birth VII 1°36 '
Saturn fo.:i_ars 15°49'43'
go} I '47" 4 y - 5 m - 13 days Ke 19°3 1'43"
XII 1°52' Jup 28°24'13"

Mercury Venus
21~5'48"
IX 5°52' )4045'58" VIII 7°52'
Sun
17°59'43" IX
X 9°52' J0052 '

When I WdS initially consulted he was in his major period of

Saturn from May 1971 to May 1990.

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 Saturn is in XII and no planet tenents its stars. Saturn owns
Lagna cusp and XIIth. There is Rahu in Lagna and so Saturn is a full
significator ofXII.
Further Saturn is in the star ofSun in X owning Vll, and it is
a benefic to the extent ofoccupational position oflife.
Let us see the sub lord of Saturn. It is Venus. Venus, having
been posited in the star ofRahu in Lagna, the entire period of Saturn
went on well, with good clientele (VII) as was indicated by me
when he came in the bukthi ofVenus.
Incidentally it was the very beginning of Venus bukthi. I
checked the position ofVenus.
It was in the star ofRahu in lagna in its own star, this tells his
material standard and matter. Then again I looked into the sub lord.
It was Mars, Mars is in the star ofVenus again owning IV & IX,
Venus is in IX. So Mars the sublord signifies IV only.
When asked, I told him as it was Venus bukthi andAnthra
that he may purchase a car, or some property, lands, home sites
and the like.
He was glad to tell me that he just then had purchased a
house site in a posh locality and his errand to me was only to know
when he could construct a house.
It is an intricate query.
I analysed Venus . Venus thro .sub is connected to Ketu. Ketu
is in the star of Venus and as node represents Sun who is a full
significator ofX, V & VDI. Here Saturn and XII signification, are
not involved for labour and expenditure.
So I told him that construction ofbuilding may not come up in
this Venus bhukthi and actually he did not get the expected amount
to start construction, as indicated by him at a later date.
Then by elimnation process I worked into the Sun bhukthi.
Sun is in ~e stai: ofMercury in X and sub ofMercury itselfand so
signifying X. Hence IV signification is not found.

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 Moon bhukthi: Moon is in the star ofMars and so VII, III &
X. Moon in the sub of Saturn signifying X & XII.
Mars bhukthi: Mars in the star ofVenus in IX owning IV, but
in the sub ofSun signifying X. So he cannot take up the construction
of house, as sub signifying X negates construction and on the
contrary sale of properties as X is the IV for purchase only. Actually
Mr. P.S . so ld a big common property among his brothers and got
one sixth share amounting to few thousands.
On 18-12-1984 stared the bhukthi ofRahu. It was miraculous
to note he got a big moral support regarding money from Father-in-
law and with this he started the construction ofhis house by January/
February 1985 and Grahapravesa, done in the early hours of
Wednesday on 12-11-86.
The house, looked like a palace, situated in posh-locality, Gill
Nagar ofChennai.
How Rahu is connected to house construction? Rahu is in its
own star Sadhayam in Lagna(Aguarius). So Rahu is a full signifi.cator
ofLagna.
As he represents Saturn he gets the significations ofXII, (Saturn
in the Xll and no planet in its star) and X also. XII tells expenditure
and X stands for disposal properties. Then How?
Rahu is in the sub ofMars, who signifies IV (Mars is in the
star of Venus in IX owning IX & IV) hence he had the house
constructed during Rahu bhukthi, entered in Venus Anthra (from
16-1 0-81 to 7-4-87) on 12-11-86.
Now I take up another horocope ofSri.Suchit Gadakari of
Thane born or 15-2-1959 at 1-5- Noon, at Kalyan 19- 73 - 8'.
Siderial time 23-10-53
Ayanamsa23-16-38

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 XI Moon
27-38-35 I 3-9-22
25-22-49 Mars 11
Ke 22-22-70 XII
8-49-44 28-22-49
29-22-49
venus
25-27-24
X 23-22-49 III
Mercurf NJRAYANA 24-22-49
3-36-4 BHAVACHAKRAM
Sn 2-37-33
Balance in
IX 24-22-49 Sun period at birth
5 y - 5 m - 3 days IV
23-22-49

VIII Rahu
Jupit er 22-22-28
28-22-49 VI 29-22-49
7-12-27 v
Sat 10-59-6
VII 3-9-22 25-22-49

Mars Venus Rahu Venus

Mercury Venus Kethu Moon
Jupiter Mercury

The native ofthis birth chart is a CheifEngineer, by profession,

has taken up the ARCHITECTURAL side of it and making huge
income in THANE (BOMBAY).
The current major period is that ofRAHU from 18-7-81 to
18-7-99.
Rahu is in IV and no planet in its stars, and so signifies IV
fully. Ithad given him successful education.
Further Rahu is in the star ofMoon in XI tells his material
back ground and general happiness and status.

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 And under stellar strength, Rahu signifies III, XI & IV fully.
These three significations tell his environmental status, general luck
and material background and educational status.
IV & XI Promises good educational prospects. But
signification ofiV ofR.ahu, does not promise occupational stability,
and on the other hand it will spoil his profession.
So, we must fmd out how he is well offand stable in his well-
set occupational life, aARCHilECT and has income now.
Let us look into the sublord ofRahu, the major Dasa lord
now. It is Venus. How is Venus placed in the chart?
It is in Xth owning Vlth cusp and Venus has no planet in its
stars Bharani, Pooram and Pooradam.
Hence Venus signifies Xth fully and Vlth partially (as Jupiter
is in VI) and the same Venus is in the star ofJupiter in VI owning
Xlth. So Xlth & Vlth also.
Suming up the majordasa lord Rahu acquires Xth signification
tnro Sub and so Rahu's IV is transferred into Buildings, Xth successful
occupation and this being Venus (Beautifying) He is a fullfledged
Architect in the region ofThane.
Currently he is running the bukthi ofMercuty from June 89 to
Jan 92. Mercuty is in IX and it is in the star of Mars in XII. owning .
Xllth cusp. As per stellar signification, the native should have suffered
heavy loss and faced failure occupationally also. This is not the case
here. He is having good pr~ctice and heavy clientele. How?
·Mercury is in the sub ofVenus, situated in Xth bhavam without
any planet in its stars and owns Vlth cusp/ Hence the result. That is
how we should assess the strength ofthe planet.
One more chart, I shall discuss to emphasise the efficacy of
the signification ofsub lord in findlising the prediction.
The native ofbirth chart is Mr.Raghu ram ofPerambur,
Madras and he was born on 26-9-1959 at 4-30 pm 1ST at Arni
12-40' /79-19'.
Ayanamsa 23-16' -38'.
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 II v
17-11 13- 11
Kethu III IV Moon
10-32-59 19-11 17-11 24-34-37 .

Lagna
I VI
NIRAYANA lO-ll
11-27-14 BHAVACHAKRAM
Ba la n ce in
Venus
XII J u piter peri od at bi rt b
6-52-30
10-11 10 y- 6m-3 day
VII
11-27-14
XI :Sn 9-20-24
X 17 - 11 Ra 10-32-59
13-11 IX 19- 11 VIII 17-11
Jupiter
Satum 16-11-34
5-7-57
7-32-32 Ms 20-6-14

Sun Venus Venus Rahu

Moon Saturn Sattnn Rahu
Mars Kethu Rahu Moon
Merctny Saturn Kethu Stm
Jupiter Saturn

Last year roughly during January 90 the father of the native,

SRI.BHAVAM NARAYANAcame to me for consultation.
I checked up the horoscope and enquired him ofhis query.
Marriage ofthe boy was his answer.
The native ofthe horoscope was running his major period
of Mercury from 24-3-89 and the swa-bhukthi extended upto
21-8-91.
Invariably one or two students ofKP will be with me and one
oftheni was asked to discuss the matter and it went as follows:

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 Mercury is in VID in the star ofMoon in V owning Vlth cusp
and so marriage cannot take place in Mercury bhukthi was the
students contention.
Mercury in the star ofMoon in V owning and no planets in
Mercury stars and V Mercury signifies V, VI & VIII.
VI & VIII will aid maritial matters and they do not spoil it as
Vth is for love and happy occasions like marriage and Villth for
sexual connections and allied matters and so one should not
completely drop these significations as a negative point.
And further he asked the students to take up the sub ofMercwy
and decide then after.
The Sub is looked into and it is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of
Kethu in Pisces. Ist bhavam and as Node it represents Jupiter and
hence the sub lord gets II, XI & IX significations thro Kethu.
So in Mercury buhkthi, marriage cannot be ruled out.
Mohan took the elimination process in terms ofthe anthras.
At the moment ofdiscussion it was Venus anthra (from 17-9-
89 to 12-2-90). Venus is in the starofKethuin I and Venus again in
Vlth bnavam, having no planet in his stars and Venus in the sub of
Rahu stationed in the star ofMoon owning Vlth cusp. So marriage
in Venus anthra is ruled out Next Sun anthra was discussed. Tills is
from 12-2-90 to 25-8-90. Sun is in its own star Uthiram deposited
in Vllth bhavam duly owning the VII cusp also. This is an encouraging
factor and so the student at once jumped stationg the marriage shall
take place in this anthra. Mohan shouted at him stating that it can
never bring about the marriage why?
Sun, even though is a very good and full significati or ofVIIth
under stellar position which stands for marital matters only, still it is
powerless for bringing about the marriage why?
Sun is in the sub ofVenus in Vlth owning IV & IX. No planet
in Venus stars. There is Jupiter in IX. No Planet in IV. So ultimately
Venus is a full significator ofVI & IV, both negate marriage and thus
Sun is made powerless to bring about the marriage.

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 Then Moon Anthra is taken up for discussion and it is from
25-3-90 to 7-6-90. Moon is in V & owns Vlth cusp and is in the
star ofJupiter in IX and so signifies IX, IT, XI Moons significations
also attracted to tell that marriage may be final in this Anthra. Mohan
rejected this also why?
Moon is in the sub ofSatum, signifies Iagna bhavamand having
been placed in the star ofKethu as node represending Jupiter in IX
gets the IXth signification it was argued by him that in terms ofiX,
only betrothal can take place in this anthra.
Mars anthra is taken up and it is from 7-6-90 to 28-7-90.
Mars in the Vlll and owns Ill & X so Mars signifies Vlli & ill and
being placed in the star ofMoon VIth also, Nothing about marriage
as ·also in the sub ofKethu in lagna bhavarn.
Then the anthra ofRahu from 20-7-90 to ~-12-90 . Rahu is
in the star oftyfoon in V owning Vlth cusp. Rahu represents Mercmy
in VID, gets Villth signification also it is the stellar strength ofRahu.
The sub position is now dicuss~d. It is in the sub ofMoon itself.
Moon is stationed in the star ofJupiter in IX owning II & XI.
Moon said emphatically that the marriage date will, on all
probabilities, be fixed during this Anthra only and also added as
Mercury owns Vth, in the star ofMoon in V, Further strengthened
by being placed in the sub of Saturn who acquires strength thro its
star lo rd . Kethu who as Node represents Jupiter and thus IT, XI, ix
come into being. As such as he should get married in the Anthra of
Rahu, he is also fortunate to get Progeny also before the end of
Mercury bukt.hi.
All simply laughed as at the moment then, there was no
horoscope ofthe girl on hand of consideration.
As·the time moved, the girl was finalised, betrothal conducted
on 28-5-90 in Moon anthra, marriage took place on 26-8-90 during
Rahu anthra.
Twins born on 13-8-91 and K.P. was correct.
Good Luck

. 126 Snh - Lo rd Speaks

 .sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB " LORD SPEAKS I

In continuation ofmy series, I like to di scuss the horoscope
of son Mr.Mani born on 28-11 -1 955 at 12.25 pm at Chennai 13.04/
80.17.
Ayanamsa 23 13' 17'
He is now running the major period ofRahu from July 1977
to July 1995 and currently it is the bukthi ofVenus from 8-2-89 to
8-2-92.
Venus is in IV and no planets in its stars and own Ill & X. So
Venus is a full significator ofiV, ill & X ful ly.
Venus is in the star ofKethu in X. Hence, Venus again gets a
full signification ofX also. And so, Venus has the matters ofIV, X.
IV tells vehicular and house hold matters and comports also thro
them.
The full signification ofiV for the bukthi lord tells some troubles
in his occupational life. X also tells sale of propeties and at the same
time lift in profession or service as well. ·
In this bukthi these are the mattes to happen, good of bad
depend upon the strengths desired by Venus the bukthi lord thro the
signification ofits sub lord
On these lines we will discuss the birth chart ofMr.Mani and
it is as under.

Sun Mars Venus Mars

Moon Rahu Saturn Rahu
Mars Moon Rahu Rahu
Mercury Venus Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Rahu

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 127

 VIII IX 19-1 1-55 X 19-11-51 XI
18-11-51 Moon Ke 24 -37-2 1 18-11-51
29-48-00

VII XII
17-59-7 NIRAYANA 18-11-51
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in Ju piter
VI Sun period at birth
7-11-5
18-11-51 4 y-7 m -3 day 117-59-7
Lagna
Kaifu III
24-37-21
v IV 19-1 1-51 19-1 1-51 II
18-11-51 Sn 12-38-0 Mars 18-11-51
M 9 -1 8-48 6-36-40
Sat2-0-14

The matters told above will be detrimental to the native, if

Venus is placed in the bad Sub and contra happens ifplanet is placed
in a benefical sub.
Here Venus is in the Sub of Mars and it is in its own star
Chithirai in lind bhavam, duly owning IX & IV.
So, the native should have good promotion in his occupation
in terms of X, should enjoy vehicular & house hold comforts in
terms of IV, sale of properties in a profitable way in terms of X,
acquistion ofnew bouse hold properties intenns ofiV.
It did happen.
The nati:ve had been promoted to an administrative status in
his organisation and provided with a motor vehicle. He sold his old
house and ground in west mambalam near Railway station, in tum
got a new house in the same area plus hard cash to the tune of six
l~ s, in terms of the sub lord Mars, a full significator ofll & IV.

So the readers may well note the significations ofVenus, being

IV, III, X has given him a new house, a good promotion with a
vehicle and heavy amount, interms ofthe sublord Mars with full
signification ofii & IV.

128 Sub - Lord Speaks

 I take up another birth chart of sow. Radha born on 23-12-
59 at 12.10 noon at Chennai 12-14, 80 1 1.
Ayanamsa: 23-16-38.
The Horoscope is as under:

Sun Venus Venus Rahu

Moon Rahu Satmn Sm
Mars Rahu Rahu Mercury
Mercury Jupiter Ketu Mercmy
Jupiter Rahu

1 15-29-26 IV
Kethu II III 13-22-54
5-34-32 18-22-54 17-22-54

XII v
10-22-54 10-22-54

XI VI
10-22-54 10-22-54

Sa 15-52- 19 Mercury
Sn 13-31-19 27-39-49 Ra 5-34-32
X 13-22-54 Mars 25-3-45 VIII VII 15-29-26
Moon IX 17-22-54 18-22-54
6-6-15 Ve 1-52-5

The native ofthis horoscope is a M.Com and got graduated

in commerce as back as 1983 in her 23 years.
And she started her major Sun period from October 1983
and she remained completely unemployed all thro Sun period which
ended by October 1989.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 129

 You may note that Sun is in X and Owns VI, ofcourse sun is
mthe star of Venus in VID owning ill and VID.
Let us look into the sub of Sun. It is also Venus & Venus is in
the star ofJupiter in IX, owning I & X. There are two planets in X,
and so the sublord Venus acquired the signification ofl & IX only.
Though Sun, owning VI, placed in X, has been negated to
give her service as it is placed in the sub ofsignificator ofl & IX.
But she got a good and permanent service during October
1989 inLIC suddenly How?
Let us discuss Moon period, which started on 13-1 0-89 of
lOyears.
Moon is in IX and no planet in its stars, So Moon is a full
significator ofIX & Vas it owns V and planets in V also.
Further Moon is placed in the star ofKetu in XII in Pisces
and so it represents Jupiter thereby I & IX also.
Under stellar status Moon signifies IX, V, XII, I, IX. With
such a stellar signification, which promises no service and in such a
period ofMoon she got fixed in LIC, whereas Sun in X owning VI
could not do anything connected to service.
Then how Moon period was able to give her a good and,
permanent service soon after it began.
Moon is in the sub Rahu placed in VI (having no planet in
Rahu star) and also the same Rahu tenented the star of Sun is X
owning VI.
So thro sub, Moon acquires VI & X significations fully and
this has given her good service and she continues there in LIC.
Let me again substantiate the strength ofsub thro another
birth chart ofMr.Bala Krishnan an enginner, born on 8-5-1960 at
3-23-55 atChennai 13 04/8017.
Ayanamsa 23-17-29

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Jupiter Saturn

YIII12-18-42
VII Ve 12-21-3 X
ll-40-44 M 13-58-l IX I t-18-42
Ms 4-30-31 Sn24-30-31 13-18-42

Ketu
28-37-17
VI XI
NIRAYANA 11-18-42
11-18-42
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
v Moon period XII
11-18-42 4 y - 11 m - 21 day 11-18-42
Ra28-37- 17

Saturn (R) I
25-2-7 II 11-40-44
IV 11-18-42 13-18-42 II
Moon
Jupiter (R) 12-18-42
9-43-17 16-41-54

Mr. Balakrishna is now running the major period. ofJup~ter

from April90 & it is for 16 yrs. Currently it is the bhukthi ofJupiter
from April 90 to May 92.
Jupiter is in illrd bhavam and it is in the star ofKetu in YJ·
This is the stellar status of Jupiter and it indicates a good service
position ofthe native.
Actually Mr.Balakrishnan is unemployed and ~eet~ wi~
failures only in his attempts to get fixed in job, especJall~ m this
Jupiter bukthi i.e. from April 90. The Vll signification ofJupiter~
given him a good material background only but not any servtce.
"Why" is the question?

K.rishnamurti Padhdhati 131

 Kindly note the sublord ofJupiter and it' is Saturn placed in
Iv. owning V & VI (Ketu in VI) (Mars is in the star ofSaturn). And
Saturn is in the star ofVenus in V1ll owning IT & IX. (no planets in
IX).
So, thro sub, Jupiter acquires the signification ofVIII, V &
IX which tells his present status of under employment and breaks to
happy ifhe want to join any service. The balance signification ofII
ofthe sublord, gives him regular income thro his material background
only.
One more birth chart, I desire to discuss how the planets
have been strengthened under sub lord significations, there by the
pattern ofthe horoscope has been elevated.
The native of the horoscope is the son of my friend
Mr.Ranganathan, Retd. Railway officer, born on 6-1-64 at 8.30
amatBangalore 12.58/77.38.
Ayanamsa 23-2--50
The horoscope is as under.

Ill VI
26il27'49" N v 19il27'49"
Jupiter 26il27'49" 23il27'49" Rabu
1"?52'55" 1"?43' 47"

II Vll
21 il27' 49" NIRAYANA 16°41 '52"
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Sa 27°36' 55"
Ve23°8'25" Moon period at birth
Vlil
116°41'52" 5 y - 11 m - 29 day
21il27 '4 9"
Ms 1°5'55"

So 2 1il28'41" Moon
Xlll'J027'49" XI 150Z0 ' 2"
Mecury 230Z7'49" X
IX
1"?51'25" 26827'49"
Ke 1"?43 ' 47" 26il27'49"

132 Sub - Lord Speaks

 Stm Jupiter Jupiter Mercury
Moon Jupiter Venus Stm
Mars Rahu Saturn Jupiter
Mercury Mars Rahu Stm
Ketu Mars

Now he is running the major period ofRahu from Nov 76' to

Nov94'.
Rahu is in Vth bhavam, in its own star. So it is signifying V
fully under stellar strength.
As node it stands for Mercury in XI owning VI & IX and so
Rahu gains strength and matters shown by XI & VI are also to be
given.
Still V & IX are detrimental for getting stability in professional
life.
Now look into the sublord it is Sun and it is in XII. Sun has
Mars in his star and so Sun does not signify XII.
Sun is in the star ofVenus in lagna owning X (No planet in X)
and V (Rahu is in V)
So, Rahu being in its own star in V & having acquired XI, VI
& IX thro representation, Rahu becomes more powerful thro sub,
as it acquiries the signification ofl & X.
In this period, he got graduated, passed B.Tech in 1985 and
passed MBA during 1988.
He entered service during 1935 and in Venus bukthi, a very
big bank in Bombay, duly drawing a salary to the tune ofRs.9000/
-on date.
Venus bukthi is from 18-6-88 to 18-6-91. It is in the star of
MooninVTII.

Krishnarnurti Padhdhati 133

 VIII signification can never elevate one to such a height and
such material status. As-Venus-is in the sub of Sun and acquires the
signification ofl & X, within bukthi he passed MBA and became
very fortunate to draw such a huge amount as salary.
Though Rahu the Dasa lord, by representaion gets VI & X
thro stellar strength Rahu is Vth significator only. But how the native
is well employed in that the sub ofRahu i.e. Sun being the significator
ofl & X and so Rahu period is so bright.
Let me analyse the strength ofentire planets in the birth chart,
duly indicating the stellar and sublord significations.

Sm I&X II XIVI&IX
Moon VII& VIII IIXI VI IX
Mars XII& VIII v
Mercury I&X XII& VIII
II III XlVI IX I&X
Venus XIII& XII I&X
Saturn I II XIIIV IIXI VI
Rahu VXIVIIX I&X
Ketu XIIX XII VIII

From the above analysis the student may note that except
Mercury and Ketu, the entire planets get very good significations
thro sub lord and so the boy is very fortunate so early as that at the
age of24 to clear such a huge amount as salary.
I predicted that even more status for him during his Jupiter·
period as Jupiter is getting very good signification thro stellar sub-
position as well.
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 Summing up I may tell the readers and students ofK.P. that
the stellar signification tells the material and pennanent strength that
is visible, but the signification thro sub lord alters the situation intenns
of the houses those sigriificatiors are connected.
Good Luck

,,

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 135

 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

ISUB - LORD SPEAKS I

Continuing my travel in the sublord world I append below
the horoscope of Sri X of Chennai, which had been sent to me for
advice regarding the disease.

VII M ars
VIII (1-7-18)
20-6-10 X 18-2-0
20-2-0
XI 20-2-0

Sn29-41-l0
Venus XI 18-2-0
20-22-30 18-51-26
NIRAYANA Rahu
VI 18-2-0 BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Ke 18-59-26 Jupiter period at birth
XII 18-2-0
v 18-2-0 15 y- 11 m- 1l days

Jupiter Sat. 21-9-34

III I 20-6-10
25-0-28
20-2-0
Moon
IV 18-2-0 20-2-31
II 20-2-0

The native born on 14-3-25 at 7-8 pm IST at Tanjore 10- .

47/79-10.
Balance in Jupiter period at birth yrs 15-11-12 Ayanamsa
22-48-10.

Mercury Venus
Jupiter Mercury

136 Sub - Lord Speaks

 of
He wanted to know about his health condition course he
tJ
was magnanimous enough indicate openlythe disease he i~ suffering
from
Some are ofopinion that the Vlth cusp sublord tells the disease
itself in natal chart. I feel it does not. It indicates the nature of the
disease either chronic or otherwise he will suffer and its desity and
affliction. Not the actual disease he has to suffer is indicated, as you
could notice that natives suffer different kinds ofdeseases in different
DASAS in tenns ofthe significations attained by the Dasa lords and
their connections to Various rasis.
For example, in the case of the horoscope of one DIG the
Vlth cusp sublord Rahu signifying IX posited in Gemini and the
same Rahu in the sub ofSaturn in IX in Gemini itself and Saturn in
the star of Jupiter in XII in Virgo.
Ofcourse Rahu the sublord ofVIth cusp pionts to seriousness
in disease and hospitalisation~ Xll and VI are connected to sublord
Saturn being placed in the star ofJupiter in XII owning VI.
Coming to the matter under dicussion, the sixth cusp sublord
Rahu is connected to Gemini and Virgo which stand for shoulders
and intestines.
The officer had nothing to do with the above said regions, but
has a serious type of di se<~c;e of Heart, taken to USA for operation
and well treated during April 90.
How heart is connected here?
Now, he is runnmg Moon period since 2-2-90 and Moon is
in Vrichikam in the star ofMercury in Leo and Moon is in the sub of
Venus deposited in the star of Mercury in Leo again. Leo stands of
Heart in the Xodiac.
Hence heart trouble during Moon bukthi in Moon period.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 137

 And also you may note, Xth cusp sublord tell s profession. It
does not finalise his actual profession. You might have noticed that
one starts his profession as a PIMP and different Dasas, becomes
owner of many houses and VIP also. So you must tmderstand that
cuspal sublord in a Natal chart does not tell both pimping and VIP
status. The cuspal sub lord tells how well he will fl ourish in his
profession. The DASAS alter the nature and situation.
Reverting to our matter, this person is suffering from skin
disease. I put it as PSOARIASIS (white patches) on Skin
(Epidermis) from 1987.
Let us discuss how the present period ofVenus from February
1984 has anything to do with this disease.
· Venus is in VI owning II & IX. Jupiter is in Venus star
Pooradam and so Venus is not a Vlth significator. Then look into its
star lord position. It is in the star of Jupiter in IV owning VII.
So finally tmder stellar status, Venus the current Dasa lord is
not a Vlth significator at all.
Then how is he suffering from a chronic type ofdisease during
this period at Venus?
Now look into the sublord. It is Jupiter again. Jupiter is in star
ofVenus in VI now thro sublord status only Venus becomes the
Vlth significator.
Hence in this period this disease.
Here we can connect the nature is disease with the significators
ofDASA LORD VENUS.
yen us , as a rule, rules Epidermis of the skin. Venus is in
Aquarius, owned by Saturn.
Saturn stands for Skin Allergy and skin.

138 Sub- Lord Speaks

 And Aquarius stands for affiiction related to blood combination
in the system.
So I am ofopinion that the native is suffering from Psoriasis
due to the above significations and connections ofVenus.
The current bukthi ofRahu is from April 91 for 3 years. Rahu
is in XI and no planets in its stars. It is in the star of Mercury in VI
owning lagna. So Rahu gets I & VI & XI significators.
And Rahu is in the sub ofKetu in V and no planet in its stars.
So Rahu 's signification ofVI through stellar status tells his suffering
and Vth signification thro sublord tells eradication ofhis disease and
redemption from it, as he will get correct treatment only during Ketu
anthra i.e. by March 1993 as Ketu is a full significator ofV through
stellar status and being in the sub ofMercury which is in IV in the
star of Saturn owning V & VI.
So full 100% cure cannot be expected.
Let me take up another birth chart for discussion. The native
Mr.Susi J .Patel born on 19-4-63 at 1-45 pm 1ST at Madras.

Ayanamsa23-19-59.
Balance in Rahu period 15 years months 10 days.

Sun Rahu Venus Rahu

Moon Jupiter Saturn Saturn
Mars Mercury Rahu Rahu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Jupiter
Jupiter Sun

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 139

 IV 29-33 Sun 5-38-1
Ju. 10-20-40 Mercury
Venus 24-29-27 IV25 -33 VII24-3-33
1-24-00 v 28-33
Rahu
III 26-33
1-35-14
Moon NIRAYANA Ms 17-55-1
8-41-15 BHAVACHAKRAM vrn 22-33
Balance in
Sat28-1 2-3
Ra hu period at birth
II 22-33
IS y- 3m - 10 days Xl26-33
Kethu
1-35-14

I 21-3-34 XII 25-33 XI 28-33 X 29-33

The above birth chart was brought to me for some classficati.o~

by one KP follower in the vicinity to explain him the validity of
Venus bukthi to bring about the marriage of the native, outpf
academic interest
I worked out the horoscope as above and told him::-the
following.

The period of Jupiter is on upto July 94. Jupiter is owriillg

lagna and IV and is posited in the III, in the star of Saturn in II
owning ill.

And further Jupiter is in the sub ofSlUl in IVth Posited in the

sub of SlUl in IVth posited in the star of kethu in Ist bhavam
representing Saturn in II owning Ill.
So Jupiter period does not pofj;ess negative si gnifications for
marital life thro sub. · ·:
He pointed out Venus bukthi, in which marriage has been
celebrated.

Of course Venus owns VI & XI & is in the star of Jupiter

owning l~gna & IV. Except XI, other matters ofVI & I & IV does
not promote marital matters at all.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Then I looked into the sub lord ofVenus. It is Rahu, posited
in VII. As node it acquires the VII signification ~d.it represents
Moon in II having no planet in Moon star. Moon. s 1~mfi e~ lind ~d
being in the star ofRahu in Vll. Moon gets VIIth s1gnificat10n also m
full
so Rahu attains the full signification ofVII & II and in whose
sub Venus the bukthi lord is situated and so marriage had taken
place in this sub period.
One more chart, I take up for discussio n. It is of one Mr."P"
a bank officer, born on 26-4-59 at 6-00 am !STat Vellore 12-55/
79-1 1 Ayanamsa 23-16-38.

Venus
19-51-50 III 8-34
Ke. 18-40-18 Sn 11 -46-34
Il11-34 Ms. 15-35-6
Mer 14-42-46 I 12-5-40
XII 6-34

XI 3-34 IV 4-34
NIRAYANA
BHAVA CHAKRAM
Balance in
M ercur y per iod at birth
X4-34 II y - 0 m - 12 day s V3-34

Saturn Moon VI 6-34

13-42-22 21-21-30 Rahu
Vlll 11-34 12-5-40
IX 8-34 18-40-18
Jup. 6-34-14

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·f,"~~~·>,f{; - ~;;•.•t- 1\}'~; •. : <;'.~.- -, ;~,~ rtti ~ ·-
i~ :iSu~nl~". ~ Plan~ '
·~ · ~~:!!
· :~~~.;:~ .
Sun Mercury Venus Venus
Moon Venus Saturn Venus
Mars Venus Rahu Mereury
Mercury Rahu Kethu Kethu
Jupiter Mercury

Krishnarnurti Padhdhati 1~ 1
 ~efore I discuss the events that had happened let me give an
~alysts on the significations ofall the nine planets in the native's
birth chart.

Saturn XII
Rahu IX, X, XI

From the above breakup and assessment one can note that
except Sun an~ Jupiter all the planets are having significations thro
sub, most detrimental for matrimonial life. .
In fag end ofJupiter Bhukthi the native got married around
January/Feb~ ?O and soon after with the entry ofSaturn bukthi
on 2~ .-2- 91 Fust rught for the couple ended in dispute and divorce
case IS on now.
The Signification ofall planets thro sub is well connected to
VI,teX,·a1XI, XII
··
except Jupiter. He· has a good s~--1.
i:l.lll\.
Serv1ce
. and
rna n position oflife is satisfactory. The same significaf fVI
X&Xllh · di 1ono ,
as given sturbance in marital portion oflife.
Good Luck

Sub - Lord Speaks

 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

( SUB • LORD SPEAKS )

I like to discuss the trigonal description of the 12 houses,
before I take up the horoscopes for discussion regarding the sub-
lord of planets.
The 12 houses are divided into 4 groups ofTRIGONS.
1stTrigon comprises ofFirst-Fifth-Ninth houses. These reveal
the self of the native.
lind TRIGON includes Second-Sixth-Tenth which virtually
stand for the material prospects ofthe native. Material trinity.
illrd TRIGON is comprised the communicative abilities of
.the person and his worldly connections and benefits there of.
The last & IVth TRIGON ofhouses are made up ofFourth-
Eighth-Twelfth. These portray the human aftlictions, tribulations, plots,
intrigues and denoting disincarnation, fatal accidents & assaults on
the person.
I have introduced these TRIGONS, as I am interested now
to discuss birth charts, with some incidents & accidents and the
IVth TRIGON will guide us in too often talks about the IVth
TRIGON & Its impact in the matter of Accidents & operations,
manhandlings etc in birth chart
I take up the horoscope ofthe son ofMr.Karivaradarajan of
Coimbatore, born on 29-1-1964 at 11-40 PM at Coimbatore 11
00177 00' for discussion.
Ayanamsa 23 20' 50"

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Krishnamurti Padhdhati
 IX 5-54-22 Rahu
VIII Jupiter X 6-54-22 0-20-10
4-54-22 25-39-10 XI 5-54-22

Saturn
5-40-10 NIRAYANA XII 4-54-22
VII 4-57-26 BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
VI 4-54-22 Mars period at birth I 4-57-26
5 y - 7 m - 9 days Mars
18-39-40

v 5-54-22 Venus
Mercury Sn 14-13-10
12-27-10 II 4-54-22
5-33-10 IV 6-54-22
Ill Moon
Ket 0-20-10 5-54-22 25-59-10

Mars Rahu Rahu Mercury

Mercury Mars Ketu Ketu
Jupiter Mercury

The boy is currently running the major period ofJupiter from

8-7-88 & is for 16 years.
The Jupitor bukthi was from 8-7-88 to 26-8-90.
Jupitor is in IX in the star ofVenus in lli & so signifies III &
X fully. But Jupiter is in the sub ofMercury N & no planet tenetnts
Mercury star. Hence Jupiter is well connected toN thro sub.
. As you will note that these are no planets in Jupiter star and
·so Jupiter get VIII the significations also under stellar status. So
there is matter connected to vm as it is stellar signification, as these
are no planets in VIII also.

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 11lro sub Jupiter the bukthi lord is c!r..-twn toN & as I indicated
above. IV house constitutes the TRIG·JN and so the boy was
involved a very serious accident on 4-10-89 and his right foot was
seriously damaged.
And further, the sub lord Mercury having the IVth full
significations, is in the star ofKetu in IV again and as node Kethu
stands for Jupiter owning VIII and no planets in Vlll and so signifies
IV & VIII.
These have brought about the accident during Jupiter bukthi
on 4-1 0-1989.
It was Venus anthra (from 27-7-89 to 3-12-89) Venus is in
the star ofRahu in X and as node represents Mercury in IV. Venus
is in the sub of Saturn in VII in the star of Mars in lagna owning IV.
Saturn and Mars coming into the day bring about accidents in such
a bukthi signifying accidents (N & VII thro sub).
I take up another birth chart of a VIP Mr.R born on 15-3-59
at 9-25 P.M. ISTatTUTICORIN 8 48'/78 10'.
·Ayanamsa 23 -16-28

Jupiter Venus

Kt ishnamurti Padhdhati 145

 Ketu 20-52-21 Venus Moon
Mercury 0-20-47 9-24-34
18-32-14 VII VIII 15-43 IX 13-43
Sun 1-2-30
Vll6-43 16-9-22 Mars 22-43-56

v 14-43
NIRAYANA X 13-43
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Sun period at birth
IV 13-43 0 y - 3 m - 12 days Xll4-43

Ill 13-43
II 15-43
Saturn I 16-9-22 XII 16-43
Jup. 8-41-22
10-58-1 Rahu
20~52-22

In this nativity, I am going to discuss, not about any accident,

but he was accidentally dragged in to a scuffle. How? These was a
serious quarrel between his fiiends and their opponents. He intervened
and there was a pitched battle and in the he was heavily beaten up.
Let me astrologically discuss how it is happening.
Now he is running Sun bukthi (Rahu major period) from 9-
1-91 to 3-12-91 and it happened in this bukthi only.
Look into Sun and it is placed in V, in the star of Jupiter in
lagna bhavam and so signifies I & III. These stellar significations
does not at all portray such sudden and undesirable matters and
happenings. Then how it happened?
Look into the sublord of Sun. It is Mars, placed in VII and
no planet tenants its stars, and so thro sub Sun acquires VIII
significator in full and also Mars is in the star of Moon in VII. So
sublord Mars a planet ofquarrels and VIII for quarrels and danger
ofviolence under unforeseen circumstances.
This VIP get married in this bukthi itself. Sun is in the star of
Jupiter in lagna bhavam owning VI & III. This does not promote
marital matters. But being in the sub ofMars, and Mars acquries
Vllth signification. being placed in the star ofMoon a deponter of
VII, 3?d himselfhaving full signification ofll & VII brought about
the marriage too an 25-3-91 during his Sun bukthi.
146 Sub- Lord Speaks
 Mr.Joshya, my brother in law, was born on 25-6-1939 at
10-23 pm at Ponners 13 20/80 15.
Ayanamsa 22 59' 54"

Jupiter Rahu

Sat6-15-55 Sun 10-13-42

1114-11 IV 15-11
Jupiter
Kethu Venus
v ll-11
12-24-21 Mercury
13-53-19 11117-11 20-41-57
29-35-16

18-55 VI 8-11
NIRAYANA
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Mars (R) Mars period at birth
11-35-30 3 y- 9 m- 21 days VII 8-55
XII 8-11

IX 17-11 Vllll4-11
XI 11-11 X 15-11 Rahu Moon
12-24-29 29-24-47

From April1943 to April 1961, he was running the major

period ofRahu.
Rahu, the major period lord, is in the vm in its own star and is
in the sub ofSaturn signifying ll, being placed in the star ofKetu in II.
Rahu's signification ofVII under stellar strength tells trials,
accidents, tribulations, being the matter ofVill, one ofthe 3 houses
ofiVth Trigon. Thro sub, it signifies II and so alround control and
good finance flow he enjoyed in that period.

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 147

 It did happen and he had good income thro his landed
properties, but he was involved in an accident during mercury bukthi
in June 1951 . (March 51 to Oct 53) affecting his right leg.
What is Mercury here?
It is in V and no planets in its stars and so fully signifies V
(Moon is in VIII) Mercury is in the star ofJupiter in Lagnas owning
II & XI. Hence Mercury under Steller status signifies V, II & XI.
You look into the sub. It is Moon in Vll owning VI and Moon
is placed in the star of Mars in XII. So VIII & XIth is involved
along with VI.
So sub is connected to the IVth Trigon and Mars and Xth
mainly brought abo ut the major accident. Here I invoke the above
theory ofiVth Trigon comprising IV, VII & XII, which stands for
Human, affiiction in general. So Mercury, being in the sub ofMoon,
is connected to Mars in XII. (Man for serious accidents and XII
coupled with Mars tells injurious accidents). Mars being in XII.
(Capricorn) affected Right knee (leg).
Now I li ke to discuss the horoscope of Sri Suchit Gadakari
ofThane (Bombay).
He was involved in an Accident while driving a two wheeler
on 8-1 2-85.
Let us discuss the period on that date.
It was the major period ofRahu from July 198 1 to July 1999
and the bukthi of Jupiter, when the accident occured.
Jupiter bukthi was from 30-3-1984 to 24-8-1986.
Jupiter is in VI and owns VII, VII & IX. There is Venus in its
stars. So under stells strength, Jupiter has no strong signification of
VIII and it is a feeble one.
Jupiter is in the sub of Mercury duly placed in the star of
Mars in XII.
lbro sub, Jupiter is connected to the fo urth Trigon ofIV, VII
& XII and Mars also involved and sublord Mercury is Aquarius of
. Saturn.
148 Sub - Lord Speaks
 So Mars, Saturn duly connected to these group of houses
thro sub has brought about the accident.
I take up another birth chart ofSrimathi Gayathri born on 13-
7-1954 at 6-15 pm IST at Cuddalore 11 - 4 3/ 79 - 49'.
Ayanamsa being 23-12-27.
In this birth chart, the bukthinatha Ketu which brought about
the accident, has nothing to do with vm at all either by stellar strength
or thro sub lord signification.
Only the IVth Trigon acted here.

Moon Sun Saturn

Mars Moon Rahu · Jupiter
Mercury Venus Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Sun

xu 1-58
1M~
6-50-
X 29-58 XI 1-58 Ju . 17-57-57
Sun 26-5l·20
Ket21-l -27

IX 27-58
I 1-53-58
NIRAYANA
II 27-58
BHAVACHAKRAM
Balance in
Vlll27-58 · Me r cury period at birth Venus
VII 1-3- 58 10 y- 5 m- 19 days 6-25- 43
Ill 27-58

Rahu
2 1-18-27 Moon IV 29-58
Mars (R) 2 1-47 - 56 Saturn
4- 15-9 v 1-58 9-28 -35
VI 1-58

Kethu bukthi (i.e. Venus major period) is from 27- 10- 90 to

#
27-12-91 and the accident occurred on 24-8-91 by a fall from a
scooter, while in fast movement.
Krishnamurti Padhdhati 149
 Ketu is in XII in the star ofJupiter in XII owning VI & X. So
Ketu signifies XII, VI & X.
Ketu as node represents Mercury and so IV & Xll also
included.
Ketu is in the sub of Jupiter in XII & these are planets in
Jupiter stars and so Ketu signifies VI only as Jupiter is in the star of
Rahu in Dhanur i.e. VI. As node Rahu again represents XII & X.
So the matter of Ketu being IV, XII & VI is implemented
thro its sublord significations being XII and VI, and the accident
brought about.
In this, the students may please note that the sub lord getting
the significations of the houses ofthe IV TRIGON can bring about
the afflictions represented that group ofhouses IV, VID & XII and
that the native was also hospitalised in term ofXII signification.
Here, one can note the presence of VIII not found at all under
signification either under stellar or thro sublord.
The Accident happened in the anthra of Saturn 22-8-9 1 to
28-10-9 1.
Discuss Saturn.
It is in IV & owns VII, VII & IX and in the star ofRahu in
VI and as node represents Jupiter in XII.
As Saturn has no planets in its stars, and it fully signifies IV.
Summing up thro stellar strength, Saturn signifies IV, Vill &
XII (IV TRIGON)
And it is in the sub ofJupiter in Xll in the star ofRAHU in VI
and as node Rahu represents Jupiter in XII.
Hence thro Sub, XII & VI come into being. So the
significations ofiV, Vlli & XII is implemented in full, by the sub
lord signification ofXII, one ofthe houses ofthe Nth TRIGON in
the anthra ofSaturn.
Now, I am discussing a Horary chart drawn by me regarding
the delivery of a child.
It was done on 7-10-91 at 10-50 AM 1ST at Madras
13-04/80 -1 7'.
ISO Sub - Lord Speaks
 No.l45 (1-249) given by the girl itself.
Ayanamsa 23 - 43'- 26'
The horary figure is as under:-
Query is if she will have a normal delivery and if so date of
birth ofthe child.
VI
1-49-46 Kethu
v 1-14-26 VII VIII 20-16-54
28-24-40 IX 27-59-20
29-20-40

X 29-9-43
NIRAYANA
BHAVACHARf 145
IV Moon period balance Venus
29-9-43 9 y - 2 m - 18 days 6-29-54
Saturn Jupiter
6-27-36 11-31-34

Ill ~~ \-11~-~~
I 29-6-40 Sn 19-43-40
27-59-20 1128-24-40 XII Mercur7
Rahu 22-18-3
1-49-26
20-16-54 Ms 29-5 1-27

San.un
Mars
Jupiter

Ketu
Jupiter Mercury

Krishnamurti Padhdhati 151

 When I took up the working of the Horary, Mohan was
present.
Father ofthe girl was here and I told him that delivery will be
normal and gave the date to.be 14-10-91.
I told the above du1y consu1ting the sub lord ofthe Vth cusp.
You may note the sub lord is Mars and is in the XI in its own star,
owning II, VI & VII. No planet in Mars star.
Mars is in the sub of Saturn in ill & thus signifying XI, as
Saturn is in the star of Sun in XI.
Here, though Mars and Saturn were involved, VIII signification
was no where to be found.
So I finally told the father that delivery would be very normal.
Now, Mohan intervened seriously. His contention was that
Vth cusp sub lord being Mars itself in XI in its own star and no
planets in its star. So Vth has the full control ofMars, a planetJor
cuts and surgery.
Further Mars in the sub of Saturn, adds fuel to fire.
Further Saturn has no Planets in its stars and so signifies IV
and no planets in IV.
IV signification thro sub, is an indication ofsurgical matter in
terms ofits being one ofthe 3 houses ofthe IV lRIGON comprising
ofFourth-Eighth-Twelfth and he asserted that delivery is not normal
and there will be surgical matter.
On 2-2-91 the father of the girl intimated me that there was
caesarean operation conducted and the child was taken out on
14-1 0-91 as predicted by me using RPs.
Having the above examples in views, the students and
followers of KP are requested to look into IV , VII & XII also
while delaing with accidents, operation matters and manhandlings
as well.
I have used the above lRIGONS duly consulting Book A&
Z horoscope Maker and Delineator by LLEWELLYN GEORGE.
Good luck
152 Sub - Lord Speaks
 SUBLORD
SPEAKS
PART- 2

BY
Late Prof. K.M. SUBRAMANIAM

Edit~d
by
Sothidamamani
K. SUBRAMANIAM
S/o . Sothida Mannan. Jyothish Marthand
(Late) Prof. K.S. KRISHNAMURTI
part 2 is a follow-up of part 1
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI . 1

SUB LORD SPEAKS

Now I take up the horoscope of one police officer (IPS) born
on 14 -9- 194 5 a t 8 . 30 a .m . at Tinne velly. 8° 44' / 7r-44'
Ayana msa : 23-4-55.

IX 1·33·51
Ms 10-38-5
VI 2- 33 -51 VII 2-45- 29 VIII 2-33-51
Rah 12-9-5
Sat 29-19-5

X 0·33-51
v 0-33-51 Nirayana Bhava Venus
24-4-5
Chakram
Balance in 1\ilercury
period XI 0-33-51
11-4-18 Mercury
IV 0-33-51
12-46-5
Sn 27-15-5

Mo01 XII 2-33-51

Ket. 12-9 ·5
21 -4-20 12- 42 -39 Jupiter
1111 -33-51
II 2-33-51 11-4-5

Planet Sublord 'Planet Sublord

Sun Moon Jupiter Moon
Moon Venus Venus Mars
Mars Sa turn Saturn .Sun
Mercury Mercury Rahu Saturn
Kethu Mercury
The native of this horoscope is an IPS officer, direct recruit
to Police Dept , by 5-7-1969

Let us di scuss the period then. It was the major period of

Venus from 2-2-64 to 2-2.-84

Venus is in X, owning I & VIII no planets in its stars and is in

the star of mercury in XI and so Venus signifies X,I.XI & VI 11 .
2 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Venus is· in the sub of Mars. deposited in the star of Rahu

which as node represents. Mercury in XI. So it promises good
stat us for the native in Venus period .
He was posted to police dept during .J uly '1969 in the bukthi
of Moon (2-6-68 to 2-2-70. )
Moon is in the lind. in the star of mercury in XI , and so Moon
is a XI th significator to give happy results. And Moon is in the
sub of Venus, posited in X. having no planets in its stars, & in
the star of Mercury in XI.
Hence the service started by July 69, during Moon bukthi.

Now he is elevated to the status of I.G. on 17 - 11 -1991 and it

is in the bukthi of Rahu in Moon period from 2-7-91 to 2-1 -93.

You may please note that Rahu is in IX in its own star. So it is

a significator of IX fully. IX does not give elevations in profession.

How then this promotion?

Look in to the sub lord of Rahu . It is saturn and saturn is in
the star of Jupiter owning VI and no planet in VI. Hence the
elevation in service.
As Jupiter. the star lord of the sub lord being in XII. he is
posted to some insignificant branches in Police Dept.

Promotion came on 17 -11 -91 and then it was Jupiter anthra.

Jupiter under stellar status signifies II & X & thro sub lord Moon.
in the star of Mercury in XI owning IX & XII .
So, the sublord moon signifies XI & feebly IX & XII. Hence
he got promotion corresponding to this ·anthra.
He will be getting Jupiter bukthi from Jan 1993 I predicted
him, a status in that bukthi.
Why? Jupiter is in XII. (saturn in Jupiter star) & so Jupiter
has no Xllth signification.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI
3
Jupiter is in the star of Moon in II owning X. It is good &
promises good matter to happen in this buktbi, professionally.
As Jupiter is in the sub of Moon again, the good matter
promised by stellar statu s, will get fructified in Jupiter bukthi.
as the sub lord Moon signifies XI, having been deposited with
star of mercury in XI. So, sure elevation in this bukth i & he will
be in the centre of power.

He had serious health problem in Oct/ Nov 1990. It was

Venus bukthi then, in Sun period (between 2-2-89 to 2-2-90)
Discuss Venus:

Venus is in X & no planet in its star and owns Lagna and

VIII. No planet in lagna & VIII . And so venus is a full significator
of I & X & VIII. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in XI
owning IX & XII. There are planets in IX & XII.

Hence Venus is a full significator of lagna, X XI & VIII. This

is stellar status and do not tell such a gravity of bad health
situation.

He had heart trouble then, How?

Venus is in the sub of Mars in IX owning VII, (no planet Ill Its
stars & in VII) So Mars is a full significator of IX & VII in full. VII
tells Ganda status,

Mars is placed in the star of Rahu and as node connected

himself to XII also being in the house of Mercury.

So, VII I & XII combination has given him seriousness and
affliction and Rahu represents Mercury & it is in Leo, telling
heart trouble.

Moon period and Moon bukthi was from 2-2-90 to 2-12-90.

Moon is in the star of Mercury in XI & in the sub of Venus in X No
planet in its star, I & VIII, so the sub Moon gets IX VIII.

Moon is in the star of mercury in XI owning IX & XII.

4 SUBLORD SPEAKS
VIII & XII got him operated upon.

Lagna & XI saved his life.

IX & XII took him to foreign land (USA) for treatment.

Now, I like to point out one matter to prove the system of KP

to be very precise

The KP students are already aware that Mars is the planet

to give service in Police , Military et c, etc. Note this officers chart.
The Xth cusp falls in Cancer 0-33 -5 1 so the
sub lord of the Xth cusp is Mars. This Mars is in the star of
Rahu , as node representing Mercury in Leo and in the sub of
Saturn a significator of Vlth . house, So service in Police
Department. As Xth is in a way connected toLeo, gives him the
managerial capacity, in acting as a central figure of a powerful
organization.
Now 1am dicussing the birth chart of Mr. Anantha Krishnan
born at 8-35 p.m. 1ST on 21-10-1967 at Kancheepuram 12.50
79.45. Ayanamsa 23-23-20

Saturn Rahu Mom

II
14-12-9 4- 22- 47 8-49·56
15-2-50
Xl13-2- 50 XJI17-2- 50 118-52-39

..
X Ill
10-2-50 Nirayana Bhava 11-2- 50

Balance in Sun
Jupiter
period
6-98-19
IX 0-6-9 days IV10-2-50
11-2- 50
Venus
19-5-27

Mercury
VI II
23-54·24
15 -2 -50 VII
Vl17·2·50
v
MS 18 -32 - 39 13-2-50
Ke4-22-47
5-32- 41
Sn 4-8-22
 KRISHNAMURTI PAOHDHAT!
5
He consulted me if ma rriage is to take place early, as being
planned by his parent. and as he is venturing to change his job
for betterment at this ,tincture

I made a thorough calculation as above and told him he will

certainly get married in the bukthi of Saturn now on (from 6-6-
90 to 12-4-93).

. Saturn is in XI in its own star, owning IX & X has no planet in J

rts stars & IX & X also. So under stellar status it signifies.

Saturn is in the sub of Rahu in XI in Aries owned by XI, IX, X.

Mars in VII owning VII further Rahu, the sub lord, is in the star of
Kethu in V.

As no planets are tenenting Rahu stars. Rahu itself duly

representing Mars owning VII in VII, would bring about the
marriage. So I predicted him that there are good prospects for
him in getting married in Saturn bukthi.

He came and told me last week that his marriage is fixed to

be celebrated during March'92.

Now I take up the horoscope of my student in KP born on

13-5-48 at 12-07 noon at Kancheepuram 12-50/79-45
Ayanamsa 23-7-26

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Rahu Jupiter Moon
Moon Saturn Venus Saturn
Mars Moon Saturn Moon
Mercury Jupitar Rahu Jubiter
Kethu Jupiter
6 SUBLORO SPEAKS

Sa tum Raru Moon

I
II
' ·12·9 4·22·47 8·49- 56
15·2-50
'I 13·2·50 XII 17·2·50 118·52·39

·-
I X I ll
10·2·50 Nirayana Bhava 11-2-50

r-- B alance in Sun

period Jupiter
IX
6-00·1 9
0 -6-9 days IV10·2-50
11 -2- 50
Venus
19·5 ·27

Mercury
Vlll
VII 23·54·24 v
15·2·50
Vl17-2-50
MS 18-32·39 13·2·50
Ke4· 22-47
5·32·41
Sn 4-8·22

The native of this birth chart is now runni 1g the major period
of Mercury from 16-2-1980 to 16-2-97.

Mercury is in the star of Moon in XI ow ning lagna and so

signifies I & XI. And is in the sub of Jupiter in V signifying Ill,
having be en placed in the star of Kethu . As node Kethu
represents Venus in XI.

Any attempt for her ~~rriage or getting service, was futil ;

and even in the bukthi of Sun she neither got married nor secured
any service.

You may note, Mercury is not signifying VII either thro' stellar
position ; r sub lord status. So it could not bring about marriage.
She is r.ow running Rahu bukthi.

Reverting back to Sun bukthi, all trials for getting service

failed badly.
Let us discuss Sun bukthi (1 0-5-86 to 16-3-87) sun is in its
own star in X owning II No planet in II. Is it not good and powerful
for securing a good job? Nothing happened. Why?
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 7
Sun is in the sub of Rahu in IX and as node it acquires the
strength of Mars and so signifies I & V also , a negati ve force for
getting service.

Moon bukthi started on 16~3-87 and she got a lucrative job

on 10-4-87 and she is continuing happily there.

Why in Moon bukthi?

Moon is in the star in Jupiter in V, owning VI & IX, not very

encouraging.

But it is in the sub of Saturn, placed in the star of Mercury

posited in Xth, Moon gets the Xth signification thro sub and
she got into service in this bukthi.

So students may note that Sun fully signifying II & X could

not give her service , where as Moon signifying V & IX & VI ,
gave her service , as Moon thro ' sub signifies X fully and Sun
thro sub signifi ed IX, VI & XI.

Let me now request the reader s stud ents of K.P., to turn to

page No.3 June 1991 issue , where in you will find horoscope
of Chi. GVR.

Now, let me recall my article "sub speaks XX," where in I '

used TRIGON regarding accidents, manhandlings etc.

Here you may notice that the boy now running the major
period of from 27 ~4-86 for 20 years and current ruling the bukthi
of Moon from 27~08~90 27-9-92.

Moon is in XI I and no planet in stars, and so signifies IV &

XII fully.

Moon is in the star of Mercury in VI owning Ill & VI & so Ill & VI.

Su mming up und er stellar strength Moon signifies . Ill, VI &

XII. Here XII one of the houses representing IVth trigon consisting
of IV, VII & XII, which bring about accidents manhandling and
sudden bad matters etc. etc.
 SUBLORD SPEAKS
8
Moon is in the sub of Venus in IV its own star and-so signifies
II , IV & fully.
Hence, rv1o on, thro' sub gets the SiQnification of IV being one
of the hou ; .s constituting the 4th TRI GO N viz IV, VIII , XII

The eff t- ;t is felt here , as the boy had involved himself in an

a cci de nt b ··1 a sudden fall from his Motor cycle , while in fast
movement so sudd ently crossed by a Dog. There was nothing
se rious, but he had deep scratches all o ver the body, more in
his leg~

It happened on 29-12~91, when it was the Anthra .o~ Ven~s

from 17 ~ 12-91, 27-3-92 . As discussed above Venus ISm IV, m
its own star and so signifi es IV, VII and is in the sub of Sun.

Sun is in VI in the star of Mars in VIII. The Su n' s star and so

VI & V al so . Summing up Sun signifies VI , VIII, V & I.
So Venu s the Anthra lord gets IV, VI & VIII thro sub and so
the st~llar signification of IV (one of the houses of Trigon IV) is
implemented thro its sub signification of VIII (being one of the
houses of the same
Hence, the accident in this anthra and i mpact was so bad
on his min d a nd he refrained from taking the MOTOR BIKE for
a week.
As Venus is in the sub of Sun signifying I & V also, nothing
so serious to his person to the extent of hospitalizing him.

+++
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 9

SUB LORD SPEAKS

With the blessings of my Late , Guruji Sri KSK , 1 feel, 1 am

progress ing well, with this series of Articles unders the above
caption, and these are more useful for the KP followers, while
attempting predictions.

Reverting to the subject, I take .up the horoscope of Mr. v.

S. born on 26-6-1933, at 10-35 p. ,. 1ST at Madras 13-04 80-17.
Ayanamsa 22-54-52 .

Planet ~ Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Saturn Ve nus Sun
Moon Moon Sa urn Sun
Mars Jupiter Rahu Rahu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Jup iter
Jupite r Saturn

v 10-46
Ill Sn11 ·42· 13
1113- 46 IV 14·46
16-46 Venu s
29-12·37

Mercury
Rahu 6-40-50
8-37-27 V17·46
18-23
Nirayana Bhava Moen
Chakram 22· 20-20
Balance in Mercury
period at Birth VII 8- 23
Sa tum Ke th.J
9y-9m-6d
22-43-27 8-37-27
XII 7-46 Jupiter
23-:D-40

Mars
1-44 -8
IX 10·46 X 14·46 IX 16 · 46
VIII
13·46

He w as r unning the major pe riod of Venus from 2~4-1950 to

.2-4-1970.
 SUBLORD SPEAKS
10
Venus is in V in the star of Jupiter in VII owning II & XI, having
no planets in II & XI. So he sign ifies VII, II & XI fully There are
planets in Venus stars. He entered Railway service on 2-7-54 It
was then the bukthi of Sun in the ma jor period of Venus 2-1-53
to 2-8-54.
With II & XI significati on, Venus could not bring him service
in its bukthi, as Venus was in the sub of SUN, placed in V posited
in the star of Rahu in lagna, as node Rahu rep resenting Satu rn
in XI owning XII.
He could get Railway service in the bukti"li of Sun, as Su n
thro steller position signifies lagna, but as it is placed in the sub
of Saturn and Saturn signifies owning VI. Since it is in the star
of Moon in IV.
!n Venus bukthi, the parents planned for the marriage of Mr.
V. S. It d id not com e up though Venus is placed in the star of
Jupiter in V II duly owning II & XI planets in II & XI) Why?

Venus is in the sub of Sun, o wning VII but cannot signify V II,
as Mars is in Sun star. As Sun is in the star of Rahu in I it
signifies lagn a.
So , Venus thro sub , does not connect itself to eith er VII or II
or XI, but to lagna only. H ence the trial f or his marriage did not
succeed . N ext, sun bu kthi gave him service only, but not
marriage though Sun was rlaced in Vownin g VII.

Then in Moon bukthi (2-8-54 to 2-4-56) the matter was taken

up, but fa iled to come up, though Moon is placed in the star of
Mercury owning V in V, as Moon through sub has nothing to do
with II or XI or VII.
Marri age was celebrated on 3- 3-1957 . It was the bukth i of
Mars from 2-4- 56 to 2-6 -57 . Mars is in VII No planet in its star if
so signifies Ill & X, apart from VII, Mars Is In the star of Sun in V
owning VII. Hence stellar wise it signifies V. VII , Ill, X & VII it is an
encouraging one .
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 11
As Mars is in the sub of Jupiter placed in VII, duly owning II &
XI & further the same Jupiter acquires Vth also, through its
stellar strength.
So Marriage was celebrated in this bukthi. It was the
Saraswathi pooja day during 1987 (30-9-87) he was involved
in a major accident.
Then he was running the major period of Mars from 2-4-86
to 2-6-93.

Mars is in VII, in Kanya rasi in the star of Sun in V, owning

VII. Mars owns Ill & X. Here no VIII is involved.

Look into the sub. It is Jupiter in the star of Venus owning IV.
No planet in IV. Now I invoke the matters of the IVth trigon
consisting of IV, VIII & XII matters.
So through sub, Mars is imbided with matters of IVth Trigon
also. Hence in that period, he is prone to accidents, man
handling etc.
On the day of occurance, it was Jupiter bukthi (17 -9-87 to
23-8-88).
Jupiter is in the star of Venus in V owning IV (No planet in IV) ·
Jupiter is in the sub of Saturn in XII owning XII. Saturn signifies
VI also.

He was fortunate to purchase .a House in a posh locality and

it was registered in his name on 9-8-91.

Then he was ruling the major period of Mars, signifying VII, Ill
& X; (No planet in its stars). Mars is in the star of Sun in Vowing
VII.

But he ism the sub of Jupiter, placed in the star of Venus in

V owning IV. So through sub Mars signifies V, IV.

The bukthi ruled on 9-8-91, was that of Kethu (5-4-91 to

2-9-91 ).
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Kethu is in its own star in VII & signifies VII only. As node it
represents' Sun in V. Then how the purchase of house could
be done in this Kethu bukthi.
Look into the sub. It is Jupiter sub and it is in the star of
Venus in V owning IV, no planet tenants IV.
This brought about the ownership of a good house on 9-8-91.
Now I take up a Horary chart duly worked out by Mr. Rajendran
a full fledged' KP follower of Mylapore. On the night of 13-4-91
at 11-1 p.m. at Chennai 13-04 80-17.
Ayanamsa 23-43-26
His que ry was "Will i be able to build a house, for which I am
taking all possible steps. "
No. taken by him 89 (1 -249)

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Saturn Venus Kethu
Moon Jupiter Saturn Rahu
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Venus Kethu Moon
Jupiter Venus
Sn29·34-18 X17-5-20
Mom Mercury(R) X 7-5·20
Ms 12-1-34
15·18-46 1-31-18 Venus
Ketru
VIII IX 6 S-20 7-8-20
29-56- 18
5·5·20

XIIS-5·20
VII 5·33·20 Jupiter
Nirayana Bhava
10-8· 50
Chakram
Balance in Saturn
period
Satum
12- 13·50 1y·11 m-2d 15-33·20
Vl 6·5·20

Raru
29-56-18 IV 7·5·20 1116-5 -20 115·5· 20
v 7-5·20
KRISHNAMURTI PADHOHATI 13
Here the sublord of IVth cusp is Mercury.

So , Mr. Rajendran had discussed the strength of Mercury.

Mercury is in 1-31-18 in Aries and so in the star of Kethu posited
in XI.
So, he fina lised, as the IVth cuspal sub lord signifies XI, that
the matters taken up for House , will be successfully
Maneuvered.

And he visited my place the next day with the fully worked
out Horary figure as above and with the above result duly
indicated in the work sheet of the Horary.

He wanted my opinion about the result indicated therein. At

the moment Mr. Mohan was present.

As usual he dragged Rajendran to the 'Sub theory and it

was discussed.
The sub lord of the IVth cusp, Mercury is placed in the sub of
Venus, placed in X and no planet in its stars and so Venus fully.
signifies Ill & X. Both houses are detriment for the house matters.

And further Venus is in the star of Sun in VIII (monetary

troubles). ·

So, Rajendran got impressed that his house matter cannot

fructify, any how leaving the prediction he said 'I am still hopeful
of progressing the house matter'.

He really tried his best to raise money and take up

construction. But he could not progress an inch.

He is now fully impressed upon sublord strength and looks

into sublord before he spells out prediction.

A female co nsultant of mine by Name Mrs. S. brought her

daughter's horoscope and the particulars are as under.

Date of birth : 26-9-1965

Time : 12-50 Noon

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Place of birth: Dharmapuri 12-15/78-12 Ayanamsa 23-21-40

And the 'birth chart is given below:

Rah.J Jupiter
IV 20-49 V2:>-49 14-24-7 7-3·52
VI 17· 49 V ll13- 23

Sa tum VIII
19·2-23 Nirayana Bhava 14- 40
11117-49
Chakram
Balance in Mars
period
6y-1 m-4days IX
1114-49 17- 49

Mercury
Xll17·49 8 -34 -38
Venus Mom
Keth.J
113-23 21-13-43 25· 11 · 32
14-24-7
XI 2:>·49
Mars1-4-10 Sn 9·40· 35
X 2:>· 49

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus Jupiter
Moon Rahu Saturn Moon
Mars Mars Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Venus Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Rahu
She said that there is heavy matrimonial troubles for her
daughter and virtually she has been sent out of her husband's
house, to re-enter the house only with the specific amount he
had demanded. Now she is in my house with her child. she
said, with a heavy heart. Now the girl is running the major period
of Jupiter from 30-10-89 and It Is for 16 years.
Jupiter bukthi was between 30-10-89 and 18-12-91. Jupiter is
in the star of Rahu in V and in the sub Rahu signifying X & VIII.
I told her that the differences have come up from Oct'89
itself. She accepted the date , with implicit gesture.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 15
She further said that during Dec'91 the force for money was
much and differences widened between the couple and in the
middle of January 1992, she has been sent out of the house.
From 18 Dec' 91 it was Saturn bukthi. Saturn is in the star of
Rahu in V, but placed in the sub of Moon in X, posited in the star
of Mars in XI owning XII, no planet in XII.

Here, X & XII has deepened the trouble.

But as Moon gets the signification of XI, I consoled telling

that there can be no break in the marital life and she will get
back to her husband. The mother went away with good hopes.

Let me now discuss the horoscope of the girl duly weighing

the strength of the significations of planets as regards the
matrimonial life of the girl.
Steller Planet Significations
Significations thro Sub lord
IX Sun XI,VI,I&JV
XI, XII Moon X, VIII
XI, XII, VI, I, IV Mars VI, I, IV
IX, VII Mercury X I, VI, I, IV
v Jupiter VIII &X
VI,XJ,I,IV Venus v
v Saturn XI, V,XII
X, VIII Rahu v
Xl,lll,·ll Kethu X, VIII
From the above assessment and break up of strength thro
significations, you may find that all planets are having detrimental
significations thro sub lord strength, for a happy matrimonial
life, except Venus and Rahu getting Vth signification thro sub
lord strength, but stellar wise VI, I, IV, X, VIII,

The above discussion is only for the Students of K .P. to put

them in the.way to finalise the strength of a Native's birth chart.
OM TAT SAT
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SUB LORD SPEAKS

A letter had been received from a K .P. follower from .
Banga lore during September '91, with the birth particulars of a
lady as under :
Date ot birth : 16-9-52

Time : 7-50 a.m. I.S.T.

Place :Mad ras

He desired' to know the matrimonial life of the native, duly
furnishing certain dates of events occurred.
Let us first discuss if the dates given, correspond with the
periods, .if we apply the sub lord theory.
The horoscope is prepared under. K .P. Method using
ayanamsa 23-10-47 for 195'2.

Nl 2-20- 45
Jtpiter (A ) 11 5-20-45
IV 28· 20· 45
27-43-27

XII
v 26-20-45
Keth.l
28-20-45 Nirayana Bhava 26-31-26
Chakram
Balanc:~ in Kethu
period MOO'l
0 - 44-~
6y-1 m-9da.ys Mercury
Xl26·20·45 23-28-42
Vl28-20- 45

Sn 0-27-51
Mars
Satum
19-17-45
V ll4·33~ 11 · 48·24
IX 2·20·45 VIII
Venus
5·20·45
23-8-25
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 17

Planets Sublord Planets SublcJrd

Sun Rahu Venus Sun
Moon Ketu Satum Venus
Mars _ Ketu Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Saturn Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Moon
The native of th is birth cha rt got married on 2-5-1976, in the
major period of Venus and bukthi of Mercury.
Let us discuss Venus. Of course Venus is in VI and owns II
& VII . But Mercury is tenanting Venus star.

So, Venus is a feeble significator of II & VII, Venus is in the

star of Moon in Bowning V. Finally Venus signifies V fully, II &
VII feebly. Venus is in VI in the sub of Sun inVI its own star.
S o, Venus, indicates marriage. and marital life with marital
t ro uble also.
The marriage date. falls in, Mercury bukthi (from April '75 to
Feb'78) Mercury own Ill & IV. There are planets in its star and it
is in the star of Venus in VI. So it is a .full significator of VI, II &
VII. .

Mercury is in the sub of Saturn owning XI & XII, placed in VI.

in' th e star of Moon in V owning V:
Mercury gets the full ,signification of XI, XII, VI & V. (No planet
in Saturn star). So ,during this bukthi she got. married interms
of XI &V The significations of XII & VI, gives its colour and she
was not sailing married life smoothly.
You may note though Mercury owned IV, getting the
significators ofV & XI thro sub, she delivered a child on 3-6-77,
during Mercury bukthi itself. ··

She was running th.e major period of Sun from April 79 to

Apri185 .
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18
Sun under stellar position signifies VI fully, as it is in its own
star in VI owning VI In spite of this adverse signification for
married life, she has no break in her marital life during this period
of Sun. How!
Sun is in the sub of Rahu in XI, having no planet in its stars,
and so fully signifies XI, Rahu is posited in the star of Mars in
VIII, owning Lagna, With pin pricks, XI sustained her.
She was obl i ged to leave her husband 's place duri ng
November ' 89 finally, with her children and came back to her
father once and for all.
It was the major period of Moon (from April'85 to Apri1'95).
Moon in V in the star of Ketu in V. You now note that the
period of Sun, a full significator of VI on all counts could sustain
her marital life, because Sun was in the sub of Rahu a full
significator of XI. Whereas Moon a full significator of V, could
not keep· her in her husbands place. A permanent break away
has) come in this period of Moon, Why? Moon is ~n t~e sub of
Ketu, who is placed in the star of Mercury, a full s1gmficator of
V, Ill & IV. IV is a bad detriment for marital life.
Nov' 89 falls in the bukthi of Saturn (from July '89 to Feb '91}
Saturn is in VI in the star of Moon in V. It is in the sub of Venus in
VI , placed in star of Sun in VI owning VI.
She went away from her husband is place never to return
and a legal suit is on between them.
Let me take up another Natal chart of Smt, Jothi born on 30-
9-1966 at 5-11 p.m at Hyderabad 17 -22/78-30.
The native of this birth chart go married during March '86. It
was the major period ~f Venus from Oct '82 to Oct '2002). Venus
is in VII th . These are planets in Venus starts and so Venus
does not signifies Vllth, but Venu s is placed in the star of Sun in
VII, and so Venus gets the Vllth 'signification.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 19
Venus is in the sub of Saturn, who signifies V & XI. Hence
Venus has strength to give marriage for the girl.
Ayanamsa 23-22-30

Moen
112·45
22-6-2 Ill 3·45
Salurn (A)
Raru
IV 29·45
v 24-45
24-50-2
2·3-4

Juipter
127-16-:l> 7-3-52
Nirayana Bhava Vl23-45
Chakram Ms29-9-Q
Balance in lv1ercury
period
X1123-45 9y-Om-18days VII
27·16-:l>

Venus
Ketru 3-18-50
X 29-45
Xl23·45 24·50-2 Sn13-29-42
IX 3·45
Vlll2·45 Mercury
28-23-43

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

I
Sun Rahu Venus Saturn
Moon Sun Saturn Rahu
Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury
. Mercury Saturn Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Mercury
She got marned m the bukthi of Sun (from 18-2-86 to 18-2-
87). Discuss Sun.

Sun is in VII and there is Venus in Sun star. Sun is in the star
of Moon'in Lagna owning VI. Hence, Sun is not a significatorof
VII and on the contrary signifies the detrimental houses for ·
marriage i.e. I & VI. Then how the marriage celebrates during
March 86 in this Sun bukthi. .
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Now. look into the sub lord of Sun.lt is Rahu, placed in II. No
planet tenants Rahu star, and so Rahu signifies II fully.

In the major period of Venus signifying VII, under stellar

strength, and V & XI thro sub lord signification, in the bukthi of
Sun, signifying II thro sub strength, gave her, marriage. Apart
from Rahu getting the lind signification, having been placed in
the star of Venus in VII, Rahu gets Vllth signification also.

The parents of the native carT'e to me for consultation and it

was Rahu bukthi from Dec '89 to Dec '92.

I booked into Rahu, and it signifies VII, 111, IV & VIII. It was
not happy further the sub lord of Rahu was Mercury, signifying
VI, IX & XI told them that the present bukthi indicates a serious
type of disease, she will be suffering currently.

They accpted and said that Doctors tell that her Pancreas is
affected (Pancreas is the gland nearer to stomach supplying
digesting secretion).
I told them that it is a slow process and the seriousness of
the affliction will be upto Dec 92.

The students may please note that the bukthi lord Rahu is
connected to Virgo thro star, and Cancer thro Sub Cancer stands
for stomach and Virgo for digesting process.

Another Horoscope I shall deal with of the native Mr. Hadhara

Venkatarama is born on 3-2-1962 at 8-10 a.m. at Madras 13°-
4'/800-14

Ayanamsa 23-19-9 and the birth chart is as under.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus Venus
Moon Mercury Saturn Moon
Mars Kethu Rahu Rahu
Mercury Rahu Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Rahu
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Ill
II 22-5-16
23-29- 41 rv 21-s-16 V17-5-16

VI 14-5-16
I 16-21-47 RatlJ
24-59-31
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Mo 25--13-38 Bal<¥1oe in Venus
Ke 24-56-31 period
Ju 24-51-24
ve 22-5-18 3y-6111-3days
Sn 20-28-38 Vll16 -21-47
xn 14-5-16
Sa 10.16·38
Mars 7·35·4

Moen
24-19-38 X21-5-16 IX23-29-41 VIII
XI 17-5-16 22·5-16

The nat1ve was runnrng the maJor period of Mars from 6-8-
81 to 6-8-88.

Mars is in XI, ie the star of Sun in XII, owning VII , and in the
sub of Kethu i~ X II , placed in the star of Mars in XI, owning Ill &
X (No planet 1n Ill & X). In this period he had a successful
educational career and entered in service on 24-6-1988 also.

~ars, though virtually a full significator of XII, thro sub, he

attained X, XI, & Ill significations and so his life·was sweet with
good happenings, in its period.

~e entered Bank service on 24-6-88, when it was the major

penod of Mars and bukthi of Moon 6-1 -88 to 6-8-88. How Moon
gave him good service?

In the first instance, Moon bukthi is in the major period of

Mars, a full significator of XI, X & I ll thro sub strength.

T_
h enas regards to Moon itself, it is in the star of Venus in XII,
own1~g IV & IX. so IV, IX &. XII cannot give any service. Now
· look mto the sub lord of Moon. It is Mercury. Mercury is in XII,
22 SUBLORD SPEAKS
owning V & VIII. But Mercury attains the significations, of X I, X &
Ill as it is placed in the star of Mars in XI.
That Is why he got into Bank service on 24-6-88 in Moon
bukthi.
One unhappy event for this gentlemen, needs astrological
discussion. He was involved into a serious scooter Accident
on 6-8-89, and the very bad part of it is, that it ended into
Amputation of the Ankle on9-8-89.
How it happened?
His .Rahu period started on 6-8-88 and the bukthi of Rahu is
upto 18-4-91.
Discuss Rahu. Rahu is in VI, in the star of Mercury in XII
owning V & VIII.
Rahu' is in its own sub and so it fully represents Moon who
is a significator of VI &XII.
Here the IVth Trigon interferes (IV, VIII, XII).
Rahu with its signification of XII & VIII, under stellar
signification, as said above duly interfered by IVth Trigon, got
him involved in a, serious accident and as XII th signification is
also much present there, Amputation also occured on the 3rd
day. As Rahu has no planets in its stars and placed in VI, the
Vlth signification prevails, and at the same time, as i1 is placed
in its own sub it gives the planet a special power to continue his
service also in this period of Rahu despite the fact that Rahu
gets XII, V & VIII signification thro sub ... (I note if a planet is in its
own sub it fully signifies that house it occupies).
Yet another birth chart of Mr. V. S. Chandrasekar is discussed
her under.
Born on 4/5-11-1964 at 2.2 a.m. 1ST at ONGOLE 15°-30'/
80°-6'.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 23
Ayanamsa .23-20- 50
Planets Sublord Planets Sublord
s un Moon Venus Rahu
Moon Mercury Saturn Sun
Mars Rahu Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mars Kethu Venus
Jupiter Mars
The boys ' father had purchased a house in Madras for him
and it was on 9-8-91.

VIII ll<a> -10-34 Rah.J

19· 10-34 Jt..piter(R) X a:J-10·34 1· 38·45
28-51-19 Xl19·10·34

VII XII
19-1-8
Nirayana Bhava 19·10-34
Chakram
Balance in Jupiter
period
VI 9y-7m-1day Mars
10· 10.34 5·58·33
119-1-8

Moen
IVa:J- 10·34 25·19-51 Venus
Keth.J Mercury 11120·10-34 12·2·16
1-38- 45 1-14-00 Slf'l II 18·10·34
19-6-50

He is running the major period of Saturn which ends by 5-6-

1993, and so from 3-11-90 to 5-6-93 it is Jupiter bukthi.

No planets in Saturn star and it is placed in VI. Hence, Saturn

becomes a full significator of VI & VII. Saturn is in the star of
Mars in XII, owning IV & IX. Hence, Saturn thro stellar position
becomes VI VII IV & IX and so the matter are service, marriage
house
. and about his father'
24 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Saturn is in the sub of Sub and Sun owns leigna and placed
in II. No planet in Sun star. Sun signifies X as it is in swathi in
the star of Rahu in X.

Hence , the above 4 matters have happened in this period in

different bukthis.

It was Moon bukthi from 8-5-85 to 8-12-86. Moon signifies V

& VII I thro stellar status, but as it is in the sub of Mercury it
signifies Ill, II & XI. (Note no planets in Mercury stars). So in the
major period of Saturn, a full significator thro star & II thro sub.
He got employment in the bukthi of Moon signifying II & XI thro
sub.

It was Mars bukthi from 8-12-86 to 17-1 -88. M ars in IV, in

terms of IXth cusp which tells about father, Mars in the star of
Kethu in VIII from IXth Mars is in the sub of Rahu placed in the
star of Mars again in IV owning VIII & Lagna .

In terms of Trigon IV, the planet Mars in IV & connected to

V III. thro stellar position and thro Sub connected to IV, VI II &
Lagna (in terms of IX) the father was involved with serious
accident while, returning from his office and hospitalised for
more than a week and got recovered without a major scar as
the sub lord Rahu signified lagna also.

It is now Jupiter bukthi from 23-11-90 to 5-6-93. Jupiter is in

IX in the star of Sun in II (No planet in Sun stars) . So it signifies
II & I. Jupiter is in the sub of. Mars , so signifies IV, How? Mars is
in the star of Kethu in IV.

As Jupiter is connected to IV thro sub he got house on his

name on 9-8-91 exactly when Mercury anthra was on. Mercury
is in the sub of Mars in XII signifying IV (Mars in the star of Kethu
in IV).

He got married on 13-11-91 . 1n the Anthra of Mercury bukthi ·

of J upiter in the major period of Satum .
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 25
As already discussed, Saturn gets the full signification of II
thro sub.

Jupiter is in the star of Sun in II & in the sub of Rahu

representing Mercury and so signifies II & XI.

Mercury as already discussed, Signifies II & XI & V, VII & IX

thro sub and so got married in this anthra.

GOOD LUCK

+++
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SUB LORD SPEAKS

I received a letter of very recently from Mr. Borooah, Silcher,
Assam, a good KP Student, regarding some clarifications duly ·
furnishing his birth particulars:-

Date of Birth- 21-6-1941

Time of Birth -11-31-58 p.m. 1ST

Place of Birth - 26-46/94-16

Ayanamsa- 23-1-34
Planets Sublord Planets Sublord
Sun Rahu Venus Saturn
Moon Jupiter Saturn Rahu
Mars Mars Rahu Saturn
Mercury Saturn Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Rahu

112·•m-7 Satum
0·23·42 1V10-43·42
Ketru
1118·43·42 M'l2·39·41 Mercury
4·2·11
Ms0-43-29 JI.Jl 13·2 · 12 22-29-10
11116· 43-42 Ven23-49·9

xu v 5·43·42
4-43-42 Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Balance in Sun
period
3y -3m-19days
XI VI
5-43-42 4-43-42

Rahu
X VIII 4 -2- 11
10-43-42 16· 43· 42 18-43-42 VII
12-40-7
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI . 27
The date of his entry into agricultural service was 12-11-
1964 Major period of Rahu was running for him from 10-10-
1961 to 10-10-1979. Rahu placed in VI in the star of sun in Ill
owning VI. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn in II placed in the star of
sun in Ill owning VI.

So it is a good period for service & earning capacity.

He entered Agricultural service in the bukthi of Jupiter from

June 1964 to Nov 66.

Jupiter is in the II owning I & X and it is in the star of moon in

II owning V (No planet in V) . But it is placed in the sub of Rahu
in VI signifying Ill & VI.

Though Jupiter signifies II & V thro stellar strength which

tells financial affluence, but no service as Jupiter acquired VI
thro sub he entered service then.

He left the above service &joined Bank service during Venus

bukthi (2-5-1973 to 2-5-76).

Let us discuss Venus

Venus is in IV & no planet is in its star.

So it fu lly signifies VII I & IV

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in II owning I & X (No planet in

I & X). So it again sign ifying II, I & X.

So. VIII & IV tells of one matter & matter being profession
thro Xth signification.

With these matters end in bad or good, the sub lord speaks
about it. Venus is in the sub of saturn in II, placed in the star of
Sun owning VI & occupying lllrd bhavam tells change, with
betterment.

Hence Venus bukthi should give end to particular service

and give a better service.
. 28 SUBLORD SPEAKS
So . he resigned the Agricultural service on 15-11-1974 &
joined service in Bank on 25-11-1974 in the Anthra of Jupiter
6-11-74 to 30-3-75.
Discuss Jupite r.
Jupiter is in II owning I & X (Mars & Venus in the sta r of
Jupiter)

Jupiter is in the star of Moon in II owning V (No planet in V).

Matter is affluence in finance (II) change of service V.

What the sub indicates ?

Jupiter is in the sub of Rahu in VI, placed in the star of Sun

in Ill owning VI. So it gave chang~ with better placed service in
Bank.
He got a promotion in October 1983. Then it was Saturn
bukthi (28-11-81 to 10.6.84). Saturn as already discussed
attains VI & Ill thro stellar strength & thro sub lord Rahu again
Ill & VI. VI got him promotion (The sub lord Rahu represents
Mercury, a full signification of II, 1 & X.

He was again promoted during September 1988., and it was

Venus bukthi (22-8-87 to 22-4-90}. Venus signifies II , I & X thro
star and thro sublord Saturn , Ill & VI.

Mr. Borooah in his letter indicated a period (as his prediction)

that he would be getting another promotion during July'92 &
wanted me to confirm correctness of his assessment.

From 10-6-1992 to 16-3-1993, it will be Mars bukthi. Let me

discuss Mars.

Mars is in the XII bhavam and no plan et in its stars. So Mars

signifies XII fully.

Mars is in the star of Jupiter placed in II duly owning lagna & X.

Summing up Mars signifies XII, Ill & X und er stellar strengt h.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 29
As Mars is in its own sub, he again signifies II. I & X Further
as Mars is in its own sub. being placed in XII, he has a say
about XII also.

Hence he must be elevated professionally with a shift from

the present place.

Again there is another prediction given by him that he would

be able to acquire a plot of land and it will be during May 92.
It is upto 10-6-92 and it is Moon bukthi. Let us see if moon is
connected to purchase of land.
Moon is in II in the star of sun in Ill, owning VI. Moon is in the
sub of Jupiter placed in the star of Moon in II owning V.
It is venus anthra from 26.2.92 to 16.5.92. Venus owns Ill &
VIII & placed in IV (No planet in its star). So it signifies Ill, VIII and
IV.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in II owning I & X.

Venus is in the sub of Saturn in II. placed in the star of sun in
Ill, so thro Sub Ill significator tells the matter under fluid state.
Next Sun Anthra from 16-5-92 to 10-6-92, Sun is in Ill (Rahu
is in Sun star) Sun is in the star of Rahu in VI. Sun is in the sub ·
of Rahu in turn placed in the star of Sun in II I. Again Sun cannot
give the land matter.

Summing up it is clear that the matter of land cannot be

completed in the Moon bukthi upto 10-6-1992, & will be
completed in the Mars bukthi Mars Anthra. How?
Mars is in its own sub and so he signifies II & IX. Mars has no
planets in its star and so it signifies XII, II & IX.
Mars is in the star of Jupiter in II, owning I & X Here II
signification again.

Hence, Mars thro sub signifies II & IX & these significators

promise purchase and ownership of land property. Mars bukthi
Starts from 10-6-92.
30 SUBLORD SPEAKS
I take up another birth chart of Mr. Prabhakaran of Sriram
Fibres for discussion.
Born on 8-4-1955 at 6-18 pm. at Kalahasthi 13° 45' 79° 44'.

Ayanamsa 23°13'17'

Planet Sublord PJdnef Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Sun
Moon Jupiter Saturn Venus
Mars Mercury Rahu Rahu
Mercury Venus Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Venus

SUl Ket 7-1 -7

24-42-11 Mars
X23-8
VII 24·9·57 VIII 25-8 5-13-35
Mercury IX 25-8
27·28-51
1o-5-51

Vl24-8
Xl23-8
17·32-35 Nirayana Bhava
Chakram

10y-9~13ays
XII
V23-8
24-8

Satum
26-46-35
11125-8 II 25-8 124-9-57
Rahu 7-1-7
Moon
8-56-48

Let me take some of the past events and discuss here under.

He entered service on 10-1 -1975 and confirmed on 1-6-75.

He was running the major period of Jupiter from March '70

to March 1986.
Jupiter is in X in its own star and so he signifies IV & X fully.
(Sun tenents VII).
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 31
Jupiter is in the sub of Venus in V, placed in the star of Rahu
in Ill in Dhanus and so being in Dhanus fully signifies X as an
agent of Jupiter in X.
When he entered th is service. It was the bukthi of Mercury
(from·· Nov'74 to .Feb 77).
Mercury is in VI in the star of Saturn in II owning VI Mercury
owns I & X and is in the sub of Venus. in tum placed in the star
of Rahu in Ill in Dhanus duly representing Jupiter in X.

The marriage for this native took place on 4-9-81 . It was the
bukthi of Moon (from 10-7-81 to 10-11-82) Moon owns XI . and
is in the Lagna bhavam. (No planet in Moon stars Moon is in the
star of Rahu In Ill in Dhanus and so represents VII also.
Moon is in the sub of Jupiter in its own star in X and so
signifies X, IV & VII. Hence marriage took place in Moon bukthi.
He purchased a House during December '85. It is then Rahu
bukthi (16-1 0-83 to 10-3-86).
Rahu is in Ill in the. star of Ketu in IX. Rahu being in its own
sub he fully stands for Jupiter and so gets IVth signification and
being in the star of Kethu, signifies IX, which brings happiness
of getting a house.

I take up the birth chart of Sow. Jayalakshmi born on 16-9-

1932 at 11 -00 a.m. at Mayavaram 11-6/79.42.
Ayanamsa 22-5 4-2.
Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Rahu Venus Jupiter
Moon Venus Saturn Mercury
Mars Saturn Rahu Saturn
Mercury Rahu Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Venus
32 SUBLORD SPEAKS

MOO'l
I
21 ~2 ' 39" XII 17057' II 16°57'
20°44'1 7'
Xl 14·57

Mars
Ratl.J 4°35'59"
23~7' 1 4" Ill 1305] '
X 1105]' Nirayana Bhava Ve 15°1'10"
Chakram
Balance in Mercury
period at Birth Mercury
Saturn (R) 10y-9m-11d 19°52' 11 "
5°25'30" Jupiter
14°59'57'
K 23°37'14"

Sun
VII
VIII 16°57' VI 17°57' 0°43'16"
20°44'17'
v 14°57'

This native had the luck of constructing a costly House and

the graha pravesam celebrated during Aug/Sep 1967. - ·· ·
It was then the major period of Venus from June 1950 to
June 1970.
Venus is in Ill. owning VI & I and placed in the star of Saturn
in VI II. As there are planets in Venus stars, it cannot signify Ill, I
& VI. It can signify VIII & IX only fina lly
But she enjoyed best financial improvement in this period
so well. How?
Now look into the sub lord of Venus . It is Jupiter.
Jupiter is in IV_(There is Rahu in its star) and so Jupiter does
not signify IV.
Jupiter is placed in the star of Venus in Ill owning I & VI (No
planet in I & VI)
Hence in this period , she rose to a rich status. Only in this
period she could construct a big house during Mercury bukthi
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 33
(June 66 to April '69.)

How Mercury bukthi brought her a House?

Mercury is in IV but Moon is Mercury star. So Mercury does

not signify IV.

Mercury is in the s.tar of Venus in Ill. This is a negative matter

for house. Then How?

Mercury is in the sub of Rahu in X in Acquarius. So . Rahu

though in X, represents Saturn. who is a full significator of IV,
and again Rahu is placed in the star of Jupiler in IV.

So. Mercury is well connected to IV & Hence a house during

this bukthi.

Now, I take up an interesting Horoscope for discussing and

the owner of the horoscope is the son of the above Jayalakshmi
.Born on 5-10-1949, at 6.20 p .m . 1ST at Mayavaram 11 -6/74.42
Ayanamsa 23-8- 16

I 25°51 '16"
Ratu
23035'10" M27°4()' II 25°40" w 21 °40'
M001
1°36'25"

v 1go40'
XII 20°40' Mars
Nirayana Eflava
24°17'50"
Chakram
Balance in Jup~er
period
VI 20°40'
XI 19°40' 2y·Om·26days Sa tum
20"31'30"

Mercury
Jupiter 15°14'31'
IX 25°40'
29039'2" VIII $18°48'17'
VE!lus 2704()'
X 21°40' 1°1 3'38" 1<23"35'10"
VII
25°51 ' 16"
34 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Moon
Mars
Mercury Jupiter Ketu Mars
·Jupiter Rahu
During the fag end of 1~9 0, the mother of the native consulted
me if the boy has time to purchase a building in Delh i, where he
is in service and said he is trying hard as he is badly in need of
the same.
It was then Ketu major period and Rahu bukthi just then
started.

I looked into Rahu.

To my surprise Rahu indicated it. Le t me discuss it.

Rah u is in the star of Mercury in VI, owning IV & V II and so
signifies VI, IV & VI I.

I ag ain looked into the sublord It was Mars. Mars in V in the

star of Mercury again duly signifying V I IV & V II.

This tells the purchase of a building .

W ith all trials, the bo y could not suceed to own a b.uilding.

The mother again came and appraised the situation and I

was really worried to find that Rahu cou ld not bring about the
p urchase despite the fact, Rahu very well signified IV thro sub
also.
I recollected the saying of Sri. KSK in his Read er on Transit'
Thus all planets ruling the Dasa & Bukthi & Anthra shall tenant
in the constellation of the slgnificator and sub of the relevant
significators.

Havi ng this in mind, I began to eleminate, duly discu ssi ng

the bukthi's of Ketu dasa, one by one all the bukthi , Upto Rahu,
that could not bring about the purchase of a building, th ough
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 35
they signified IV thro-sub,

Ketu Bukthi : From 1-11-87 to 28-3-88.

Ketu is in the sub of Mars and in turn this Mars signifies IV &
Vi. Here sub indicates the purchase. But Dasanatha Ketu then
trans its Sun star 156° 49' -148° 59' significator of XII. Hence
did not co me up.

Venus Bukthi: 28-3-88 to 28-5-89.

Venus is in the sub of Mars and as explained the sub indicated
owning a building But did not come up, Ketu, the dasa lord was
then transiting Sun, Venus and Ketu stars 149° 59'- 126° 24'
Significators of XII. X & II, V, VI & IX. '

Hence negotiation for purchase of a House

Sun Bhukthl: 28-5-89 to 4-10-89.

Sun is in the su b of Mercury and so signifies XII, & so no
indication of purchase.

Transit of Dasanatha Kethu also does not connect Ketu was

in transit of Ke tu and Mercury stars 126° 24'-119° 34' signification
of II, V, VI & IX, XII.

So Nothing ind icated.

Moon Bhukthi: 4-10-89 to 4-5-90.

Ketu, the dasa lord then transiting Mercury star 119°-34' to
108o-20'·and it invoked the signification of XII only. lnspite of the
fact that Moon is in the sub of Rahu. and this attains the IVth
signification (Rahu is in the star of Mercury owning IV) matter
did not come up , as the transit of Ketu did not help purchase of
a building.

Mars Bukthi: 4-5-90 to 1-10-90.

Mars is in the sub of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the star of
Mercury duly signifying VI & IV. Which tells the possession of a
building.
36 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Then Ketu, the Dasanatha was transiting Mercury and Saturn
stars (108° 20' -1 000 23') duly attaining the signification of XII
& Ill , V, V III, XI which cannot help purchase.
Rahu Bukthi: 1-10-90 to 19-10-91.
Rahu is placed in the sub of Mars and in turn Mars is in the
star of Mercury and thus signifies IV and VI. This would promise
purchase of a building. Nothing came up, with all endeavours
and trials.

Why? look into Transit.

Ketu the Dasanath was then transitting Saturn, Jupiter sta~s
100° 23'. 80° 5' and got the signification of V Ill, VIII & XI & VI. In
transit the IVth signification never shown its head. Hence
every trial to purchase fell through.

Jupiter Bukthi: 19-10-91 to 29-9.62.

Jupiter is in the star of Sun in VI Owning VI and is placed in
the sub of Rahu in XII and it is in the star of Mercury in VI owning
IV (no planets in IV). Thus sub g ives Jupiter the power to
purchase a building. I checked up the Transit of Ketu the Dasa
lord and found that it was transiting the star of Jupiter and Rahu
and Mars stars, continuously and thus creating the signification
of VI &IV, VI & VII.
Currently Jupiter (the bukthinatha) transits the star of Ketu,
thus signifies IV, VI & VII relevant houses for building .

Prediction to the mother was given that the. purchase will be

done. with Registration before 10-6-199 2.

Then the Mother also accepted that advance had been paid
and shortly the registration is planned.
The readers now may kindly note that despite the fact. the
bukthi lords signified IV thro sub . even then except Jupiter, in
the previous bukthi periods. Ketu the Dasa Natha did not transit
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 37
the stars to connect the IVth signification, so the matter of
purchase did not come up. And so Prof. K.S.K's advice to look
into the transit. now help us with a proper guidance.
OM TAT SAT

+++
38 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPFAKS

It is my desire to continue this series of Article for six or
seven months more & continue to write on Transit, as
propounded by our Late Guruji Sri. KS.K.
Now I discuss the Horoscope of Mr. Shanker of Chennai,
born on 21/22-2-1946 at 2.28 a.m. 1ST at Porto-Novo 11°-24'/
79°-44'(Thursday)
Ayanamsa 23-5-45
Ral\3·37·37
Vll7·25-1
IV 12-46·55 v 13·46·55 VI 11-46-55 Ms21-1-51
Saturn(R)
2S-28-3J

Mer18-28-5
Venus
VII
14-28·46
Nirayana Bhava 7-46-55
1119--16-55
Sun9-32-40 Chakram
Balance in Rahu
period at birth
6y-4m-3days
117-46·55 IX 9-46-55

Mooo
15-18-22
17-25·1 XII
Xl13-46·55 X 12·46·55
Ket 3-37·37 11-46·55
J~,piter (A)
4-5-3J

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Jupiter Venus Kethu
Moon · Venus Saturn Mercury
Mars Jupiter Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Kethu Sun
Jupiter Venus
Let me discuss some happemngs m hts hfe and show how
s.ublord had control in bringing about the matters indicated by
the star lord of the plantes. It is what Sri KSK was telling in his
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 39
various lectures and it is the essence of Krishnamurthi
Padhdhati.

Mr. Shanker got married on 9th February 1981. It was the

major period of Saturn, bukthi of Mars. Anthra of Rahu.

Let me discuss how these plantes are responsible for the

marriage to come up.

Saturn period was from 24-6-1968 to 24-6-87.

Saturn owns II & Ill & placed in VII (No planet in Saturn Star)
so Saturn fully signifies II & VII thro stellar strength.

Saturn is placed in the Star of Jupiter in X & Jupiter owns I &

IV. So again Saturn signifies X, I & IV.

Saturn is in the sub of Mercury, in Ill owning VII &X. No planet

in Mercury Star & Mercury is placed in the Star of Rahu in VI.

So, thro Sub, Saturn attain VII, X & VI significations. Hence,

Saturn period can bring about the marriage with serious
obstacles & delay, apart from occupational (service) life.

Take up Bukthi lord Mars and the bukthi ruled from 27-12-
1980 to 6-2 1982.

Mars is in VII &owns V & XII (Jupiter is in Mars Star) so Mars

does not signify VII, V &XII fully only a feeble significator.

.Mars is placed in the Star of Jupiter in X, owning I & IV.

Hence Mars signifies X, I & IV thro stellar position.

These signification of X, I & IV never support marriage to

come up.

But Mr. Shankar got married in this bukthi of Mars.

Then How? What is the reason?

Now, look in to the sub lord of Mars. It is Jupiter. Jupiter is in

the Star of mars posited in VII bhavam. Mars owns V & VIII
· (KE!tu tenents XII).
40 SUBLORD SPEAKS
So, Mars thro sub strength signifies VII & V fully.
So, Marriage took place in Mars bukthi & is stated to be a
Love marriage.
Anthra then ruling, was that of Rahu, Rahu is in VI. (There
are plantes in its Star)
So it does not signify VI fully. It is positied in the star of Mars
in VII owning V. And as Node, it represents VII being in Gemini,
where in Vllth cusp falls.
He entered central Govt. service on 16-8-1970 (Saturn bukthi
from 24-6-68 to 27-6-71)
It was the major period of Satrun (June 1968 to June 1987)
As already discussed, Saturn, thro its sublord Mercury, signifies
VI, as it is in the star of Rahu in VI & so signifies VI & X also.
Hence the Dasa lord has power to give service life also.
Service started in the bukthi of Saturn itself. The Same·
signifitions thro sublord stands goods for entering service.
Now I like to discuss horoscope of Mr. Dakshinamurthy of
Aduthurai born on 14-9-1958 at 1.35 p.m. 1ST at Aduthurai 11 °6'
/79.37 Ayanama 23-15-48.

Kethu Mars
IV 21·34·28 0·34·12 4·45·36 Vl l 14·3·58
v 21-24-28 IV 18-34-28

VIII
11118-34-28
15·34·28
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Balance in Sun Mercury
period at birth 1 Hl-12
Oy-2m-28days Ve12-41-!:B
II 15-34-29
IX 18·34·28
SU1
27-44-44

Satum XI Mooo
26-11-53 21·34-28 9·27·40
I 14-3-52
XII Jt.p8-2-15 X
18-34-28 Rato-34-12 21-34-28
 KRISHNAMURTI P~DHDHATI 41
Planets Sublord Planets Sublord
Sun Moon Venus Mercury
Moon Venus Saturn Jupiter
Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury
Mercury Saturn Kethu Kethu
Jupiter Rahu

He was married on 14-7-85 and the period then was that of

Rahu and bukthi of Mercury.

Rahu signifies V fully and thro sub lord Mercury, IV & V also,
(Mercury is in the star of Kethu in Aries and so represents Mars).

Mercury owns VII and signifies IV &V (Saturn is in Mercury

star) Hence this period points to marriage and that too love
marriage in general.

Marriage took place in the bukthi of Mercury (from 24-10-83

to 12-5-86). The bukthi l ord Mercury is in the star of Kethu in IV
and pla~e? in the sub of Saturn. who in turn signifies VII fully
(Saturn IS 1n Mercury star and Mercury owns VII and no plantes
in VII ).

So , marriage took place in Mercury bukthi. He purchased a .

House on 19-1-92.

It is the bukthi of Moon (24-5-91 to 24-11-92).

Let us see how Moon is conneceted to the House matter.

Moon owns VIII placed in IX. (No planet in the star of Moon.)
So, Moon fully signifies IX & VIII.

Moon is in the s tar of Sun, placed in IX, owning IX. Hence

again signifies IX fully.

Significations of IX & VIII does not help to own a house.

Hence, sub lord tells the House Purchase, Moon is in the

sub of Venus in VIII, placed in the star of Kethu in IVth bhava . So
. Moon sig~ifies IV thro sub and so house was purchased during
the bukth1 of Moon , corresponding to the Anthra of Saturn.
42 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Discuss Saturn:
Saturn owns II & Ill and placed in XII, no planets in its stars
and so signifies IIIII & XII.

Saturn is in the star of Mercury in VIII owning VII & X.

So, Saturn signifies IIIII XII VIII & XI VII thro stellar strength,
Here Ill, XII, VIII & X are derterm inet significations for purchse
of properties like land, houses and vehicles.

But, the purchase took place in this anthra of Saturn. How?

Look into the sub lord of Saturn. It is Jupiter.

Jupiter owns IV and it has no plantes in its stars and so

signifies IV fully.

Further Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in Libra and as node

represents Venus who is a full significator of IV (Venus is in the
star of Kethu in IV).

The native who came recently for consultation, desired to

know how beneficial his future period of Jupiter, which is to run
from December' 93 for 16 years, would be.

Jupiter is in X and owns I & IV. No pl antes in Jupiter star and

so it fully signifies I IV & X.

Further Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in X. in Libra. So again

Jupiter signifies X.

As node Rahu, the star lord, represents VI & XI cusp also.

So under stellar strength, Jupiter attains tt.e significations

of IIV X VI & XI. So the matters are very good in Jupiter period.

Sub lord decides. How far these matters be beneficial to the

native.

Look into the sub lord of Jupiter. It is Rahu, as told above, as

node Rahu, being in X in Libra, it also acquires VI & XI signification
also, duly representing Venus who owns VI & XI.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 43
Venus is placed in VIII, in the star of Kethu in VI. So Rahu
acquires VIII & IV too.

Hence I told him, his Jupiter period shall give him good material
improvements, together with financial commitments also, in terms
of VIII signification attained by sub lord Rahu (Note. The sub
lord Rahu, as Node, represents, Venus, owning VI & XI, in VIII.
No planet in Venus stars and no planet in VI & XI.

Now I take up the horosco pe of Mr. Ananthakumar S/o. A.

Narayanan ofTrichy-1. Born on 2-11 -1 964 at 7-31 a.m. 1ST at
Salem 11/39/78-12. Ayanamsa 23-20-50.

Planets . Sublord • • ••
Sun Venus Venus Venus
Moon Venus Saturn Sun
Mars Moon Rahu Mercury
Mercury Venus kethu Venus
Jupiter Mars

Vl7-16 Rah
VII
v 6-16 JupEr(R) 1-47-55
4-22-10
29- 12-:rl VII 3- 16

Satum
5-<l- 16
IX 3- 16
IV Nirayana Bhava
4-16 Chakram
Balance in Moon
period at birth
X 4-16
I ll Zy-1m -23days Mars
3- 16
4-29- [()

Me rcu ry
X16-16
II 3-16 26-59-[()
VerB-42-ro
Ketu I 4· 22-10 Sl.ll Moc:o
. 1-47-55 16-a:l-10
a:l- 28 - 10
XI I 7-16
44 SUBLORD SPEAKS

The boy's father con sulted me in the 1st week of May 92

regarding the possibility of marriage coming up for the boy during
1992.
Boy is running the major period of J upiter from 25-12-91 and
the bukthi of Jupiter ends by 13-2-1994.

I discussed Jupiter.
It is in VI, & owns II & V & it is in the star of Sun in XII. It is
posited in the sub of Mars, owning I & VII & placed in the star of
Kethu in lagna bhavam.
Kethu as node repre sents Jupiter in VI duly signifying X &
XII.
So, I told the father that the boy cannot get married du ring
Jupiter bukthi i.e., upto Februray 94.
Then I looked into Saturn bukth i, which starts on 13-2-1994.

I discussed Saturn.
It owns Ill & IV placed in IV with no planet in its stars. So it
signifies Ill & IV fully.
Saturn is in the star of Mars in X, owning I & VI. So it signifies
X fully along with Ill & IV.
So there significatiof1s under stellar strength viz. Ill IV & X
full significations I & VI feeble significations, are determental
factors for bringing about the marriage.
But sub lord of Saturn being Sun, placed in the star of Rahu
in V II bhavam gives Saturn strength to bring about the marriage
during its bukthi .
So I told the father that the boy will get married definately, in
Saturn bukthi and Saturn anthra itself i.e., betwee n 13-2-1994
& '17-7-1994 and he left with sati sfaction.

Om Tat Sat
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 45

SUBLORD SPEAKS
I am sure by my series of Articles under the above caption,
students of K.P. are now giving more credence to the sublord
for finality in prediciton.

I now discuss one horoscope, an entity by itself, of one boy

by name KRISHNAN S/o. Vijaya raghavan, my friend.
'
Born on 15-11-68 at 11-45 p.m. I. S.T. at Madras.

13.04/80.17. Ayanamsa 23-24-11.

Planets .· Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Moon Venus Jupiter
Moon Mars Saturn Jupiter
Mars · Moon Rahu Rahu
Mercury Sun Kethu Rahu
Jup iter Mercury

Saturn(R)
26-23-47
XII
IX 25-'Sl-27 X 27-S2-27 XI 27-'Sl-27
2fHil -27
Rah.J
13- 39 - 5?

VIII I
24-57-27 Nirayana Bhava 26-36-44
Chak ram
Balance fn Sun 1----
pe riod at birth
II 24-'Sl- 27
VII Sy-1 m-8days Mom
26 -36- 44
28-39-22

Jupiter
VI26-'Sl-27 IV 27-'Sl-27 6-34-25
v 27-'Sl-27
Venus Mercury Ms10- 32 -'Sl
S.m 0-3-27
7-38-20 17-54-13 Ke 13-39-52
If 125- 'Sl- 27
46 SUBLORD SPEAKS
The boy was running the major period of Mars from
D ecember '83 to D ecember '90. Of course Mars , a full
significator of II & X, ( No planet in its stars and placed in 11).
Having been placed in the star of Moon in II owning 1., signifies
I also.

Mars is in the sub of Moon & so signifies IV & II.

So in terms, of IV & II, he passed the B. E. Exam. credi tably

in Pilani durin 1990, in Sun bukthi (17-1-90 to 23-5-90).

Please note Sun thro sub, signified IV fully.

With the advent of Moon bukthi in May'90, he found himself

selected for M.S. Environmental engineering studies in U.S.A.
& left for the same.

Note Moon is in the sub of Mars & signifies I, II & X.

In this bukthi he left for higher studies to USA .

At this function, I was hestitant to include this birth chart in

this Articte, as the Dasa lord Mars & bukthi lord M oon were not
connected to IX or XII for movement to foreign countires.

Here the lind cuspal sublord is Mercury & it is in the star of

Rahu in Pisces whe re IXth cusp fails . Mercury in the sub of
Sun & sun is in the star of Jupiter owning VI & IX.

IVth cusp sub lo rd is Venus & it is in the star of Kethu in Virgo

& so it represents Mercury in Ill, owning Ill & XII.
Hence, Mars as Dasa lord signifies IV & so he accquires Ill
& XII also & Moon thro sub signifies II & so acquires VI & IX.
. .
T his is a subtle matter, which studel)ts ·hav,''te~eenly watch
a nd fo llow. · · ··

The boy started the major period of Rahu on 23-12-90 and

its bukt hi is upto 5-9-93.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 47
The readers may kindly notice Rahu, the major Dasa lord is
in VIII and is placed in the star of Saturn in IX owning VII & VIII.
(No planet in VII). both VIII & IX are quite detrimental for material
progress.

In the case of Nodes, one should give more credence for

Rasi lords.

Here Rahu represents Jupiter in II, owning VI & IX (As sun is

in Visakam IV, Jupiter is a feeble significator of II, VI & IX)

Jupiter is in the star of Sun in lv owning II and so Jupiter

attains IV & II fully.

Hence, Rahu becomes a benefic and gives education,

financial prospects. ·

In Rahu bukthi, he progressed well in his MS environmental

Engineering in USA.

During May'92, the boy got Government service, in USA and

it was Mercury anthra in Rahu bukthi.

As already pointed out, Rahu, is well connected to IV & 11

fully.

The Anthra lord Mercury has to be discussed. Mercury is

the star of Rahu. in VIII representing Jupiter a significator of II,
VI & IV & Mercury in the sub of sun, a significator of II & VI.

So he settled down in Service life in Mercury anthra, in Rahu

bukthi itself As Node, play~ a better role in representing their
Rasi lord & their signification.

Now, I take up the Horoscope of Sri. Vijayaraghavan, born

on 12-10-1932 at 5.00 A.M 1ST) at Virinjipuram (vellore) 12-55/
79.41.

Ayanamsa 22-54-2.
48 SUBLORD SPEAKS

VIII X
Vll9-8·15 IX 9·57·00 8-57-00
8-57-00

Moa~
Xrl-57-00
26·49·36 Ms
Rate2-17~ Nirayana Bhava 19·36·21
VI 8-57-00 Chakram
Balance in Jup~er
period XIIS -57·00
v 7·57·00 7y-9m-21 days
Venus
Sa tum 12·26·33
5-17-27 Jup20·11·2
Ket22·17~

II 8·57·00 I 9-8·15
IV Ill
9-57-00
Mercury Sm
8·57·00 25-32-14
4·25·27

Planets Sub lord Planets .. Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Mercury
Moon Venus S~turn Mercury
Mars Venus Rahu Saturn
Mercury Venus Kethu Saturn
Jupiter Jupiter
The native of this horosocope is now running the major period
of Venus from 3-8-1983, for 20 years.
The readers may note that venus is in XII owning II & IX. As
these are planets in Venus stars, Venus cannot have the benefic
signification of II.
Venus is in the star of Kethu in XII .. So, under stellar strength,
it is not at all connected to give good.
But actually, Sri Vijayaraghavan owns a house in city area,
with a good Railway service in supervisory nature. He suffered
in this Venus period. no major setbacks & he enjoys best health
also with good social structure and influence, together with
happy family setup.
...
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 49
How? is the question.

Look into its sublord. It is Mercury and it owns I &X & placed
in the star of Mars in XI.

This is brought to you only to pointout, how a Dasa lord with

detrimental significations under stellar status, work well, gives
beneficial results in terms of Sub-Lord only & alone.

(Now I may pointout that one cannot ignore to note the Dasa
lord Venus, though rendered weak by being placed in the star
of Ketu in X II , the same Ketu as a node acquires the Rasi Lord
Sun. (Sun in Lagna, duly signifying XI) & Venus acquires these
benefic significations also.)

Another Horoscope of a girl by name Shanthi born on 18-10-

1970 at 8.25 am 1ST at Madras 13.04/80.17
Ayanamsa 23.25.51

Vl6-34 Vll4-17-9
v 6-34 Sallrn(R) Moen
VIII
27-35 -40 3-34
13-59-31

Rctl
5-28-47 IX 2-34
IV 4-34
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Balance in Moon
period
Ill X4 -34
7y-()n-22days
2-34 Ketll.J
5-28-47

Jupiter
MsS-5 -46
18-1q-44
I 4-17-9 X16-34
II 3-34 XII 6-34·.
Ve 1-35-46 Mer
SISI
24-25-47
0-53-27
50 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Pianets Sublord Planets Sub lord

Sun Mercury Venus Rahu
Moon Jupiter Saturn Moon
Mars Saturn Rahu Sun
Mercury Rahu Kethu Mars
Jupiter Moon
This girl had a brilliant educational life. For this we look into
the Sublord of the IVth cusp.

Here the Sublord is Venus.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter in XII owning !I & V. So Venus

signifies under stellar status XII, II & V. This does not portray
the same.

Now look into the Sublord of Venus.

It is Rahu .
Rahu is placed in IV (Acquarius), representing Saturn in VI.

Saturn is placed in the Star Sun in XI owning X.

So IV is connected to X & XI, apart from VI, thro the Sublord

of the IVth cusp Sublord, Venus.

She passed +2 with Gold medal in 1989. passed Bsc with

distinction in 1992 & studied through out till BSc with full
scholarship in merit.

Got married on 6-5-92. It was then the major period of Rahu

(Nov 89 for 18 years) & bukth i of Saturn (from 16-11-89 tp 22-
9-92) Discuss Saturn.
Saturn is in VI, owning Ill & IV, no planet in Saturn Stars and
it is in the Star of Sun in XI, owning X.
So the bukthi lord Saturn, when marriage is celebr~.ted
signifies VI, VIII IV X XI fully. Except XI, the other signifactors
are quite detrimental for bringing about the marriage .
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 51
Now look into the Sublord of Saturn. It is Moon placed VII,
owning IX. No planet in Moon stars & in IX also. (Moon in its
own star, Rohini)
So, Saturn signifies fuly V II & IX thro sub , both good for
marriage.
I take up the Horoscope of Dr. Natarajan, a leading Medical
practitioner of my locality.
He was born on 24-12-1949 at 9.35 p.m. 1ST at Madras 13
04/80.17.
. .• . . Ayanamsa 23-8-16.
. .· ... .
. .. Planets Sublord Planets Sublord
Sun Saturn Venus Venus
Moon Jupiter Saturn Kethu
Mars .Mercury Rahu Venus
Mercury Sun Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Mars

Ra19-al - ~
VIII
IX X XI
2-33-21 3-33·21 3-33·21
1-33-21

~ 10·19-2
VII XII
Nirayana Bhava 2·33 -21
2-3- «>
Chakram
Balance in Rahu
Ve20-27-3) period
12-3-40
Jupiter 13y-Om-26days
11 -45·27 Satum
VI 2-33-51 26· 10-24

26 -50-22
-
IV 111
111 · 33-21
Ms6-14-49
Sun9-24-41 3·33-21 2-33·21 Ketl't.l
V3-33·21 19-al-43

The Students may kindly note that the Sublords of IV & X

.cusps do portray his education & profession.
 SUBLORD SPEAKS
52
IVth cusp Sublord is Saturn.
Saturn in Leo. This falls on Medical study. Saturn is in the
star of Venu s in VI. The house VI tells health matters.
Saturn is in the sub of Kethu , placed in virgo (virgo is called
the Hospital of the zodiac).

Look into the Xth cusp.

The Sublord is Saturn again .

As discussed above . his profession also con nected to
medicine only.
Let me discuss various events in his life.
He was married on 10-11-1972. It is the major period of
Jupiter from Jan 1963 to Jan 1979.
Jupiter is in the star of Moon in VII owning XII , and no planet
in Jupiter stars and so Jupiter signifies VI , VII, & XII, under
stellar position.
It is in the sub of Mars placed No planet in Mars stars and so
Mars signifies II, IV & IX. As Mars is tenanting the star of Sun in
V, Mars· acquires the signification of V & I also. (I is feeble
signification, as Saturn is situat ed there in lagna)
So, Jupiter period has got the signification of VII, XII VI, so it
can give marriage, foreign tours and good income respectively.

As sub gives the signification of V II IV & IX the matters VII ,

XII, & VI florish well. ·
He got married in Rahu bukthi in Jupiter major pariod ( 16-9-
76 to 20-1-79).
Rahu is in VIII in the star of Mercury in Vowning II & XI. There
are planets in Rahu star and so it cannot signify V III . So Rahu
thro ste llar signifies V & XI also, as planets are in II, it does not
signify II fully, So, Rahuthro stellar strength signifies V & XI and
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 53
Rahu thro Sublord Venus signifies VII, as Venus is posited in
the star of MOON in VII. So he got married in Rahu bukthi.
He passed MBBS exam, during Dec 1974. It was then Moon
bukthi in Jupiter period. as already explai'ned Jupiter has IVth
house mat!er, thro sub. arid teiis success in the major period.
Let us discuss the bukthi of Moon and tell if it is connected to
education and prospects there on.

Moon is in VII in the star of Rahu in VIII & so it signifies VII

fully. But moon being placed in the sub of Jupiter in VI (No
planet in Jupiteer stars). The signification of VI gives success
in this bukthi. Discussing back again about Moon, under stellar
strength it signifies VIII fully. But one should not fail to discuss
further that moon is in the star of Rahu a node and so it
represents Jupiter in VI, a full significator of VI, as no planet
tenenting Jupiter stars. This should not be i_ gnored·.
So Moon has given him a success '(VI) in its bukthi, being in
major dasa Jupiter signifying V II IV IX thro its sublord, as
discussed above in previous paras.

By way of will & a settlement deed, he got a house from his

uncle on 12-4-1982, Let us discuss the bukthi lord on that date. ,
It was Saturn period & Mercury bukthi (23-1-82 to 2-10-84.)

Mercury is in the star of Sun in V, owning lagna cusp. This

does not tell anything addition in property.

But Mercury is the sub of sun, placed in the star of Kethu in

II & so II tells addition & acquisition of properties.
Apart from this, he construced a House in the same Mercury
bukthi.

As Mercury is in the sub of Sun in saggitary a Dual sign & as

sun also posited in the star of Ketu in II (Virgo) a dual house, he
had the. second house in the same Bukthi of Mercury during
1983.
54 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Now I take up the birth chart of Dr. Vanaja, a medical
predictioner of my locality, with a roaring practice.
Born on 16-17-1-52. at 1.30 a.m. 1ST at Chenganancheri 9-
36'/76-34'
Ayanamsa 23-1 0-47.
Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Jupiter Venus Mars
Moon Saturn Saturn Venus
Mars - Sun Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mercuery ·Kethu Venus
Jupiter Rahu

·.,-
..
. ·. . . .
Vl ,19.
Jupiter
VII VIII IX
18"15-39 17-9 16-9
14-45-43

v 17-9
Rall.J X16-9
1-25-43 Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Balance in Venus
period Ketll.l
IV 16·9 1-25-43
Sll1 Sy·7m-21 days Xl17-9
2-28·3 Moen
22·54-23
. .
Ill 16-9 Venus I 18·15·39 Xl119-9
Mercury 23·49·13 Mars Satum
11·29·43 1117-9 5·18-23 21-44·3

Doctor was running the major period of Mars from Sep'73 to

Sep'80.
Mars is in its own star Chithirai in XII owning II &VII. So Mars
signifies XII, VII & II. There is Venus in II & Rahu is in Mars star.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 55
So, one will be tempted to say Mars is a bad planet and
period would bring troubles in term of XII & VII.
Nothing happened.

Look into the sublord. It is sun & it is in its own star in 111
owning XI.

Through there is Moon in XI, Sun signifies XI as it is in its

own star and no planet tenant its stars.

Hence thro Sublord, Mars acquire Ill & XI, & so the period
of Mars was bright, she got married in 1976, passed MBBS in
1974. purchased a plot in May 1990.

She· passed MBBS during September 1974, it was Rahu

bukthi in Mars period (5-2-74 to 23-2-75.) Rahu is in the star of
Mars in XII & so signifies VII & XII, This is not encouraging
signification, under stellar strength.

Let us look into the sublord of Rahu. It is Mercury placed in

the star of Ketu in X. So he was successful in the exam and
passed it.

Marriage took place during November 76. It is the major

period of Mars from September'73 to September '80. ·

Mars thro star and Sub signifies II VII Ill & XI. So in this
major period, marriage took place in the bukthi of Saturn (from
January .Z6 to March 77.)

Saturn is in the star of Moon in XI & is in the sub of Venus is

· in II, placed in the star Mercury in II.

So, there is a good combination of VII, II & XI formed in this

bukthi & marriage took place on 1Oth November 1976.

She purchased a plot for House construction during 1990 in

the bukthi of Sun (October 79 to February'80)

Sun is in Ill in its own star & so fully signifies Ill:

56 SUBLORD SPEAKS
This is not encouraging & does not indicate purchase of
plot.
But, Sun is in the sub of Jupiter in V (No planet in its stars) &
so signifies V & VI. Having been placed in the Star is well
connected to IV & so purchase of Plot in this bukthi.

Now. I invite the attention of my beloved readers of this

magazine K.P. &Astrology to turn the page No . 13 of May 1992
of K.P. & Astrology, where in it was discussed and finally
predicted to the mother of the native, born on 5-10-1949, that
the registration of House would be before 10-6-92.

This is for the kind information of the readers and K.P.

followers please.

An improtant Note for K.P. followers:

1. PLANETS stellar significations. These significations tell

what ·m atters are eligible for the planets to give.

2. The lord of the sub portion in which the reference planet is

situated and to assess the correct signification of the sublord .

These significations alone allow the fructification of the

matters portrayed by the planet. ·

3. The quantum of such matters as allowed by the sublord

for fructification are assessed thro the sublord of the relevant
cusps that stand for such matters.

That is how to proceed .

KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 57
SUB LORD SPEAKS
In the Astro logical wo rld. we are required to assess the
correct matter and give result to the maximum extent correctly.

When we look into horoscopes we find some period, to be

weak in significations and bad also and we at once spellout
bad only, w ith out looking into the sublord signification of the
Dasa lord.

I now discuss a horoscope of a lady of my locality, born at 5-

15 a.m. 22-7-64, W~dnesday at Ramanathapuram 9.22t78.52.
Ayanamsa 23-20-50 . :~ ·:: · :

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Mercury Venus Saturn
Moon Rahu Saturn Saturn
Mars Mercury Rahu Rahu
Mercury Saturn Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Moon

Xl24-47-47 X1124-47-47 Ms0-44-45

X 20-47-47 Jupiter V91US Ra 7-15-12
28-15-11 28-57-17 I Z3-48-:ll

Sur6-51-55
IX20-47-47
II 20-47-47
Sallrn(R)
Ni rayana 8hava Me .wry
10-37-13
Chakram 28-53-13
Balance in Kethu
period
VIII 3y-8m-7days 1120-47-47
20-47-47

Vll23-48-:ll
Ketru VI v IV 22-47-47
7-15-2 24-47-47 24-47-47
Mn6-18-47
58 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Thi s lady came to me for consultation regarding marriage .
I mad e a through checkup of the period of Sun now on from
29-3-88 to 29-3-94.
Sun is in L agna bhava and owns Ill. Jupiter is in Sun star and
so Sun does not signify I & Ill.
Sun is in the star of Saturn in VIII owning VII I & IX so Sun is a
full sign ifrcator of VI II & IX.

So, these two significators do not help the native to get into
marital fold .

Looking into these significators of VIII & IX an Astrologer is

prone to tell that she is bad in health and bad in Material portion
of life also with no profession in life and with unemployment.
When asked she said that she is well educated and in
permanent, lucrative Railway service from 1987-88. .
The student now can understand how the stellar significations
lead you to lurch.
She is now financially well off and planning to own a house
also.
Now, we have to look into the sublord of Sun, the dasa lord.
It is Mercury and Mercury is in II in its own star, Ayilyam.

So, Mercury signifies II fully along with IV, as there are planets
in lagna bhava.
Hence , Sun is in the sub of a planet signifying II & IV fully.
This tells her material status.
L et us discuss the Year 87-88, she got into Railway service .
It was Kcthu bukthi from 29-1-87 to 27-3-88 .
Let us discuss the signification of Kethu, Kethu is in VI in its
own star and so fully signifies VI (services ). Kethu being in
Dhanus he represents Jupiter in XI, owning X also so Kethu
has got the matters of VI, X & XI.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 59
Let us see if the lord Kethu is connected to benefic houses
thro sub lord for fructification of the matters of VI, X is service
and professional life.
Kethu is in the sub of Rahu in XII in its own star, Mithunam,
So he fully represents Mercury in II in its own star so the matter
well fructified.
In the beginning I wrote t hat she came for knowing her
marriage time.

For marriage the current period of Sun should be signifying

II, VII or XI, VII or II, VI, XI. It signifies II & IV only thro sub, II
tells her financial position and IV detrimental signification for
marital matters.

So this period is weak for the same and now it is the bukthi
of Mercury from 17-1-92 to 23-1-92.
Mercury is a full significator of II & IV, under stellar strength,
but thro sub lord Saturn, it signifies XII, with II & IV. No use.

Then Kethu bukthi from 23-11-92 to 29-3-93, Kethu being

in Moola in VI, he signifies VI fully and thro sublord Rahu
signifie ~ XI I fully, alongwith II & IV. No use

Then Venus bukthi from 29-3-93 to 29-3-94. Venus is in XII

and no planet in its stars and so fully signifies V & XII.

Venus is in the star of Mars in XII, in its own star and so

signifies XII fully. No use for marriage

So, I told her that marriage cannct take place before April
'94 and she went away.

Let us discuss for the sake of students regarding the marital

position of this girl.

To confirm if there is marriage at all, you have to look into the

Vllth cusp sublord .

Here it is Saturn
60 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Saturn is in the star of Rahu in XII, & so signifies XII. As node
Rahu represents mercury in II in its own star and so Saturn
gets the signification of II also.

See if Saturn gets a benefic signification thro its sublord.

Saturn is in its own sub and so again gets signification of XII,
II & IV, the signific~tion of II is plus point whereas XII & IV are
minus points.

So, marriage cannot come up as detrimental signification

are dominant.

I take up another birth chart of a business magnet in Madras,

born on 17-7-51 at 11-50 a.m at SATTUR 9.21/77.58 Ayanamsa
23-9-56.
Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Mars Venus Venus
Moon Jupiter Saturn Saturn
Mars Venus Rahu Moon
Mercury Sun Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Venus

Vll24-20-15
Mars
Jup~er VIII
IX 23-43 15-44-37
20-29-7 24-43
X 22-43
i
Sun 0-42-6
Vl 23-43 - Mercury
Rahu
Nirayana Bhava 21-59-24
19-10-01
Chakram XI 22 - 43
Balan~ in Kethu
Venus
period
v . 13-57-25
2y-4m-14days Ketu
22-43
19 - 10-01
Xll23-43

IV 22 -43 Satum
Ill
Moen 1124 - 43 4-20-23
23-43
8-49-12 124-20-15
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 61
As in the previous chart, this bitrth chart also is a baffling
one.
Now the native is running the major period of Mars from 1-
12-89 to 1-12-96.
Discuss mars.
Mars is in IX & no planet in its.stars & so signifies IX, VIII fully
(Moon is in IV) Mars is in the star of Rahu in V,.

So, Mars signifies IX, VIII & V & these are d6lrimental
· -;i~Jr d , c a tio :-t s
for material progress. It tells all failures.
f~ J t
it is not the case with this person. He is having roaring
business life to the tune of crores.

Then how it happens?

Now look into the sublord of Mars.

It is Venus, Venus is in its own star in Xlth, owning II & IX (No

planet in II &Mars in IX) so Mars is in the sub of planet signifying
II & IX . What more one requires to get huge income than these
II & XI significations.

As the same Dasa natha, Mars is in the star of Rahu in V,

here V is the matter. He is dealing with matters producing Music
items in terms of V. and he will get on very well in this period of
Mars, on these lines.

On 1-12-96 he enters into the major period of Rahu for 18

years

Discuss Rahu.

Rahu is in its own star in V and it is as node, represents

Saturn, a full significator of X. (Saturn is in the Star of Sun in
Xth bhavam.)
So, Rahu has matters, connected to V & X. Rahu is in the
sub of Moon in II owning X I. (No planet in Moon stars) and further
Moon signifies XI, as it tena nts the star of kethu, posited in XI.
62 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Hence, Rahu period for 18 years will be very good, better
than Mars period.

I get correspondence from KP Student s requiring

clarifications if results of one planet repeal::; the !~a mt~ matter in
all the Dasas as it comes as bukthi natha.

Really it is a. moot point for discussion, and it is raised t•y f\..1r

Sriramulu, Manthany AP.

Firstly, you must assess the sign ification of the Dasa lord. it
the same has lllrd signification predominantly and the bukth i
lord has IV th signification, the IV th matter meets with failure
only or no progress at all in that direction, ie., IV th house
matters .

The same planet with IVth matter, come as bhukthi lord in

the period of one signifying IV, he will be flourishing in that matter
so well.

If the Dasa lord signifies IX and the bukthi lord with IV matter,
makes the native to go deep in his studies and do research .

If the Dasa lord signifies VIII or XII and bukthi lord of IV comes,
there will be serious accidents to the extent of hospitalisation
and amputation.

That is how. one should proceed.

OM TAT SAT

+++
KRISHN/'.MURTI PADHDHATI 63
SUB LORD SPEAKS

In this Aricle, I take up the Horoscope of on Mr. Palanivelu of

Adyar for discussion. You will notice how the stellar positions
of the D~sa Lord t~lls the matters that he suffers or enjoys in
that part1cul ar penod Let me proceed with the horoscope
details:-

He was born on 6-10-53 at 8-22 a.m., 1ST at Madras 13-04/

80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-11-37.

Balance in Sun period at Birth :- 2 years 5 months 15 days.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Kethu Venus Saturn
Moon Saturn Saturn Sun
Mars Jupiter Rahu Mercury
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Venus

XII 27 -35-5 I 1·58-38 J.Jp 3-9-37

1125·35-5 11125-35-5

Ketu
Xl2 3-35·5 6-6-31
IV22-35-5
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
X 22 -35·5 Mars
Rahu 20-35 -55
6-6·31 Ven22-0 · 36
v 23-35·5

VIII Mercury Mn 4-32- 11

IX 25-35"5 29-35-5 9-35·2 Slll
\1111·58·38 Sa tu m 19·51·56
4-53-43 V127-35·5
64 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Now, the native is run nin'g the major period of Jupiter from
21-3-1991 for 16 years.
Look into Jupiter. It is in the star of Mars in IV, owning VII ,
VII I. You will please note that no planet tenants its stars. So
Jupiter is a fu ll significator of II & X II too.
Hence, Jupiter under stellar position signifies II IV VII VIII XII.

So. in this period these are the matters to enjoy or suffer

that is what Sri KSK was telling time and again.

The native owns a big house in Adyar locality, and has house
rental income (II & IV.)
VII tells his matrimot~i a llife.

VII tells some litigations and agonising situations.

XII abnormal expenditure or overseas travels and sudden
movements.
These matters are in any way affecting him or suffering on
these lines, is to be seen thro the sub lord of Jupiter.
Jt,~piter is in the sub of Venus.
How is Venus? It is in IV, in its own star Pooram duly ow1 :ng
lagna and II cusps.
So, Jupiter significations of II , IV, VII, VIII & XII , should transform
and give results in terms of Venus significations.

II tells finance and family.

The IVth signification of Venus affects family in a way. And II
signification give him good flow of money.
IV tels Domestic situation and house hold matters. It is
affected as Venus gets IVth and so domestic disturbances and
litigations on house.
Vllth tells matrimonallife and his wife.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHOHATI 65
The IVth significator of Venus had disturbed his matrimonial
life and his wife is away from him and gone to her father's house.

VI lith tells serious matters and when connected to IV under

sub signification tells he is prone to accidents and litigation and
there is a serious court case on his house.

VIII & XII stellar significations connected to IVth thro ~ub tells
some sudden matter of a serious type to happen during the
Anthra of Moon 30-11-92 to 14-1-93.

He came to me for consultation regarding the Domestic

trouble and asked if his wife will come and join him and when.

I looked into Saturn bukthi which starts on 9-5-93 Saturn is

in VI, in the star of Mars in IV owning VII &VIII Saturn is in the
sub of Sun. And Sun is in the star of Moon in V. So. the matter
of VII & VIII shall be transformed into V and will bring her back to
sour fold, I said.

As regards to the court case on the House I told him the

same will come to an end ubruptly during Mars anthra i.e
between November '92 & January (93) as Mars signifies I & II &
IV thro stellar status and thro Sublord Jupitar II & IV.

As Jupiter tenents the star of Venus, I told him the case will
end under negotiation across the table.

I take up another chart of a girl by name Chi. Hemavathi,

barn on 13-.12-68, at 12-50 noon 1ST at Madras 13-04/80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-24-11.
'
Planet Sublord Plan at Sublord
Sun Saturn Venus Moon
Moon Jupiter Saturn Rahu
Mars Jupiter Rahu Mars
Mercury Venus Ketu Rahu
~upiter Moon .
66 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Sallrn(R)
25-21-31
Rahu 1113-44 11112-44 IV 8· 44
12-11-54
19-54-50

XIIS-44 v 5-44
N i rayana Bhava
Chak.ram
Venus
10-34-37 VIS-44
XIS-44

Mn1·18-12
X 8·44 Sl.fl V119-24-9J
VIII Ju10·2S·29
Mercury Zl-'Sl-'ZT 13-44
1·24-51 IX 12·54 Ms2S·59·31
Ke12·11 ·54

Balance in Sun period 3 years 10 months 29 days .

The girl got married on 10-9-1989. At that time, it was the
major period of Mars, bukthi of Moon and Anthra of Mercury.
Mars period was from 12-11-1982 to 12-11-1989 let us
discuss the dasa lord Mars. Mars is in VII, in its own star of in
the sub of Jupiter, a significator of VII as it is in VII without any
planet in its star. ·
So Mars has the matter of VII thro sub, a benefic significator
I

of VII for marriage.

Marriage ca me up in this period, with abnormal delay, as
Vlth signification of Mars thro sub is the cause (Mars is in the
sub of Jupiter and Jupiter is in the star of Moon in VI.)
So, Marriage took place in the fag and of Mars period ie. in
Moon bukthi between 12-4-89 to 12-11-89.
Moon owns V & is in VI. There are planets ie. Moon stars.
·so. Moon does not signifY V & VI.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 67
Moon is in the star of Sun in IX owning VI. So Moon signifies
IX& VI.

This is a detriment factor for marital matters.

Then How?

Moon is in the sub of Jupiter in VII, having no planet in its

stars. So signifies VII fully.

Look at the Anthra lord signification. It is Mercury Anthra from

14-8-89 to 14-9-89.

Mercury owns, IV & VII and there is Sun in its star. So it does
not signify IV & VII.

Mercury is in the star of Ketu in VII & so signifies VII and so

signifies fully VII. So, marriage can take place if sub lord allows.
What sublord tells?

Mercury is in the sub of Venus in XI and Venus has no planet

in its stars, and so Venus fully signifies XI.

Being in the star of Moon, Venus gets the full signification of

V also, as no planet in V.

So, marriage was consummated in this Anthra only on 10-

8-89, during the bukthi, of Moon signifying VII thro sub lord
Jupiter.

+++
68 SUB LORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPEAKS

In this Article, I take up the birth chart of Dr. Kamalesh, a
close realtive of mine.
He was born on 20-10-62 at 4-26 p.m. at Madras 13-04/80-
17.
Ayanamsa 2314" 9"
Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Jupiter Venus Venus
Moon Mercury Satrun Mars
Mars Rahu Rahu Mars
Mercurry Rahu Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Saturn

1123·41
Ill IV v
25-41 22-41 18-41

Mars
118-23-59
1-2.9-26
Jupiter
Nirayana Bhava Ra 12-9-29
10-41-16
Chakram Vl16-41
Balance in Jupiter
Xl/16-41 period
Ken2-9·2.9 9y-11m-29days VII
Sallrn(R) 18-23-59
11·28-31

IX 28 -41 Su15·27·53
XI X Ve27 -1 1·21 VIII 23-41
18-41 22-41 Moon Mercury
25-14-40 24-14-39

Dr. Kamalesh was running the major period of Saturn from

October "72 to October '91.
Students may please note that Saturn is in XI and owns lagna.
What is use.
· KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 69
There are planets in its stars so he does not signify XI & I.

On the contrary Saturn is in the star of Moon in VIII. So he is

a full VI lith significator. But he became a qualified Doctor in Saturn
period only.

Then How:-

Look at the sub of Saturn. It is Mars sub. Mars in the star of

Jupiter in XII owning II & XI.(No planet in II). So thro sub lord it
gains the good signification of II & so he could complete the
Medical education in Saturn period in Rahu Bukthi and Rahu
as full significator of II through sub lord.

In the fag end of Rahu bukthi in Saturn major period he was

selected for Research in West Germany, and he continued
that till October '91.

Near about October '91 he was here for consultation to know

if he had luck to continue his stay in Germany, as he was
misguided by somebody that Mercury is a bad malefic and will
hamper his plans of research study, as Mercury period starts
on 17-7-91, which will be for 17 years.

At that moment, Mohan was here in my room and was

consulted. He gave him to understand that Mercury period is a·
very good one, better than Saturn and he is fortunate to continue
his research in Germany.

And as predicted by Mohan, he is still there, in Germany,

doing research successfully.

Then how, when Mercury is in VIII and owning V, (having no

planet in its star), signifies V & VII fully, which are detrimental
for successful matters.
As Mercury is in the star of Mars, again signifies V.

How VIII & V could sustain him to continue there, with better
circumstances, which the Dr. really enjoys there and
progressing in the Research very well.
70 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Mohan clearly explained to him that Mercury is in the sub of
Rahu, duly placed in the star of Saturn in XI , owning lagna and
XII, which tells the fortunate circumstances to be enjoyed by
him. As predicted by Mohan the Dr. continues there with
recognition in his work .
Now, I take up the Horoscope. of Mr. K. Venkatachalam of
Salem, a multi crorepathi.
He was born on 30-4-30 at 7-30 a.m. at Salem 11-39/78-12.

Ayanamsa 23-00-44

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Moon Venus Mercurry
Moon Rahu Saturn Mercury
Mars Rahu Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Rahu Kethu Jupiter
Jupiter Sun
The native of this birth chart had been here for consulation
just a week before writing this article.

Jup3-11-27
Xll28-48-41 II 0·48-41
Satum 12-50·3:>
Ket 26-11 -5 Venus
12-2-58 Mars
Mercury 1·29-39
SU1 25-36·1 11126-48- 41
25-11 -13
16-31 -55

XI IV
24-48-41 Nirayana Bhava 23· 48·41
Chakram
Balanc.e in Mars
period at Birth
tviOM v
24-33·33 6y-4m·29days
24·48-41
X 23·48·41

IX 26-48·41 Rahu
VII
VIII 26-11·5
2·50-3)
0·48·41 VI2B·48·41
 KRJSHNAMURTI PADHDHATJ 71
He presented the horoscope and asked nie if I can tell
anything about the period, at the same time pointing out the
Vraya position of Saturn. He is now running the major period of
Saturn now from September ' 80 to September '99.

Of course Saturn is in XII having no planet in its star Poosam,

Anusham & Uthrattathi. It is a full significator of XII. It owns X &
XI. But there are planets, Moon in . x - and Mercury & Kethu in
XI.

So finally it is to be taken as bad period.

Of course, Saturn is in the star of Ketu in XI. This tells a

good matter and happy circumtances to happen.

That Ketu in XI, being Pisces, represents Jupiter in XII,

owning VIII, IX & XII (there are planets in XII)

Stellar strength in not very encouraging.

As the horoscope presented to me was in Traditional type. 1

referred the Emphemeris and found Satun in Aries 12-2-58 and
so in the sub of Mercury and Mercury in XI in Revathy star so
fully signifies XI & as Mercury owns II, Ill & VI, these benefic
significations also, emboldened me to tell that he is running a
very good period, with high materia l standard, heavy cash flow
etc.

Through he accepted it, he nodded his head with a slow

motion.

Then I again calculated and found out the bukthi now running
being that of Moon, From 11-8-91 to 11-3-93.
Moon was discussed.

The students may please note Moon in X in the star of No

planet in Moon star. So Moon is a full significator of 1 & X. It is
a fine status for anybody to have a roaring professional life
and heavy Income.
72 SUBLORD SPEAKS
And again I looked in to the sublord and it is Rahu. Rahu is in
V & No planet in Rahu star and so fully signifies V.
So I told him that here is a heavy fall in his income, though
his outword status maintained as the sublord Rahu signifies
lagna as it is placed in the star of Mars in legna.

Now, he was glad to openly comeout with his current financial

position, as pointed out by me, duly accepting the same.

Only now he came out with his material background, duly

accepting my findings which I noted down in the 1st para itself.

Let me now give a descriptive analysis of the nine planets,

portaying their strength, how he horoscope can be assesed to
have highly placed meteriat background.

Planets Stellar Signification

Signification Thro Sublord
Sun XII, II & I X, I, IV, VII
Moon X, I, IV, VII V, I & VII
Mars I & VII V, I, VII
Mercury XI, II, Ill, VI V, I, VII
Jupiter XII, VIII, IX, XI XII, II & I
Venus I & VII XI, II, Ill, VI
Saturn XII, IX XI, II, Ill, VI
Rahu V, I, VII XI
Ketu XI, II, Ill, VI XI
From the above details, one can note that planets signify
more benefic houses, thro sub lord strength . This has g iven
him a good material status to reckon with.

Of course one should look into the cuspal sublord strength

also, with more credence to have ·a final decision or
assessment.

Now take up the birth chart of a girl of my locality born on 8-

12-1960 at 8-30 p.m. 1ST at Madras 13-04/17.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 73
Ayanamsa 23-17-29 .

Xl13-11
X 1- 12 Xl3-11 Mars(R )
23-5-31

I 2-27-00
IX 29-11
Ketu
Mooo
17-16-38
Nirayana Ellava 22-45~45
Chakrarn 1129-11
Balance in Mercury
period
VIII 29-11 Ralll
Ve 4- 39 - 31 9y-2m-22days 17-16-38
VII 2-27·00 11129-11

Satum SuZ3-15-39
Z3-39-16 Mercury
IV 1-11
Ju15-27-39 8-3·9
Vt 3-11 v 3-11

This girl got married on 18-6-92, only in her 32nd year.

At the time of marriage it was the major period of Venus,

bukthi of Saturn and Anthra of Rahu .

Let me discuss for the sake of students of KP how these

three planets rule the marital significations under sublord
strength also.

Saturn bukthi is running from 30-12-90 to 30-2-93 and the

anthra of Rahu is from 7-4-92 to 28-9-92.

The Dasa lord Venus is in VII and as Saturn and Rahu in

Venus star, Venus is not a Vllth significator. Venus is in the star
of Sun in V owning Ill. So. Venus is full signification of V & Ill
only if it is not strong enough to give marital matters. But, Venus
is in the sub of Saturn in VI owning VII VIII & IX. Saturn is in the
star of Venus in VII. and so Venus period should give her marital
life, as it gained fruitful signification for marital life i.e. VII thro
sublord .
74 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Moon Venus Saturn
Moon Moon Saturn Saturn
Mars Saturn Rahu Moon
Mercury Ketu Ketti Ve nus
Jupiter Venus
The marriage had taken place in the bukthi of Saturn. Let us
discuss how Saturn is connected to marital matters .

Saturn is in VI. owning VII. VIII & IX & is in the star of Venus in
VII owning IV & XI. This is a good combination for marriage . .

Marriage actually had taken place the Anthra of Rahu only.

How is Rahu connected to Mar thro sublord. Let me discuss.

Rahu is in II in the star if Venus in VII & so signifies VII & XI

and further Rdhu is in the sub of Moon in lagna owning lagna
and II and having no planet in its stars, Hastham. Thiruvonam
and Rohini . It fully signifies II. ·

And it is in the star of Mercury in V. So t he Anthra lord is

sig_nifying II & V.

The bhukthi lord is sig nifying VII & XI

The Dasa lord is signifying VII only, Such a combination of II.

VII & XI have culminated in the Anthra of Rahu and the marriage
had taken place then.

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 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 75
SL1B LORD SPEAKS
This time I am discussing the birth chart of Mr. Ramesh well
known in our KP world.

Born on 12-10-57 at 12.25 P.~. IST. place of birth Pu.dukottai,

10.23'N/78.52-E.

Ayanamsa 23.14-58.
. . . : . .. . .

Balance in Sun period at birth:- 2 Yrs-1 0 months-15 days.·

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Rahu Jupiter Kethu
Moon Saturn Venus Venus
Mars Mercury Saturn Mercury
Mercury Saturn Rahu Moon
Kethu Rahu

IV2-45
v 1-45
Mooo VII
KethJ
18-23-53 3-36-37 24-18-2
Vl28-45

11128- 45 VIII
Nirayana Etlava 25-45
Chakram
Balance in Sun
period
1125 - 45 2y-1 Om-15days IX28-45

X1128-45 Mercury
RahJ 16-53-18
· I 24-18-2 Sa17-18-29
18-23-53 Ms18·32·16
Ve 9·18-38
Xl1 ·45
x2-45 Ju20·21·3:1
Sn25-26·20

Mr. Ramesh started his major period of Rahu on 27-8-77 &

. it is for 18 years.
76 : .. SUBLORD SPEAKS
· ·R.ahu bukthi is from 27-8-1977 to 4-5-1980, Rahu is in its
own star in X and so it is a full significator of X, and as node it
represents Venus. ·in XI owning V, VI & X (Moon in V). So Rahu
fully signifies VI X XI.

Rahu is iri the sub of Mc:>on signifying IX . So in this bukthi he

got good service in 1978 and had to leave this service & got
another one during February 1980, despite the fact that Rahu
signifies VI, X & XI.

He was running the bukthi of Jupiter from 9-5-1980 to 3-1 0-

1982. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in V owning VIII. As there are
no planets in Jupiter star, it signifies IX, and I. Summing up
Jupiter signifies V, VIII, IX & I.

But in this bukthi he was confirmed in service in Indian Airlines

& comfortably placed in service, without any trouble. How?

Look in to the sub lord of Jupiter. It is Kethu in IV, placed in

the star of Venus in XI owning V, VI & X (Moon in V). so thro sub
lord Jupiter signifies IV, (No planet in Kethu stars placed in IV}
XI, V I & X fully.

Further he passed out post graduation with distinction as IV

is connected thro sub lord.

He used to question me how the bukthi of Sun would be as

it was to run from 15-3-1992 to 9-2-1993 as Sun is placed in IX
owning IX, and in the star of Mars in IX owning IV, XI & XII. (Kethu
in IV and Saturn and Venus in XI)

So. Sun will be signifying IX & XII fully. The question was
regarding the fate of his service.

I categorically ruled out troubles, b•Jt I assured him on the

contrary, a promotion & high commanding status. H ow?

Look into the sub lord of Sun. It is Rahu & it is in X in its own
star. Further Rahu being node represents Venus in XI, owning
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 77
V, VI & X (Moon in V). So Sun thro its sub lord Rahu signifies XI ,
VI &X fully.

With the advent of Sun bukthi. he was suddenly made in

charge of Time office of Indian Ai rHnes , with nearly 300 people,
working under him, with an enhanced salary of Rs . 600/-plus ,
commanding good status and respect among the staff under
him.

The reader may please note, how the sub is working here.
He now accepts his Sun bukthi is working very well, as
explained above, any way, he has still lurking with another query
of how his Jupiter period would be.

You may please note that his Jupiter is in IX, and owns I. (No
planet in Jupiter star Punarpoosam. Visakam & Poorattathy)
So it fully signifies IX, I. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in V owning
VIII. (No planet in VIII). So Jupiter further signifies V & VIII also.
Summing up Jupiter signifies IX, I, V & VIII.
In view of IX, V & VIII by significations he has a feeling that he
wi ll be out of service.

No, I said. Look into the Sub of Jupiter. Luckily it is Kethu in

IV, placed in the star of Venus in XI. owning V, VI & X (Moon in V)
So Jupiter thro sub lord signifies XI , VI & X. So, he will certainly
continue in service with all status I assured him (readers may
note that in Jupiter bukthi of Rahu major period he was well
placed in INDIAN AIRLINES, as already discussed).
Next I take up Chi. Kauser D/o of my friend born on 13-6-
1960 at 10.00 a.m 1ST at Chennai 13.04/80.17
Ayanamsa 23-17-29.

Balance in Moon period at birth :- 2 Yrs 4 months 20 days.

78 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Saturn Venus Jupiter
Moon Kethu Saturn Saturn
Mars Venus Rahu Sun
Mercury Saturn Kethu Venus
Jupiter Rahu

Mercury
Mars
XI 2B- 22 -47 22 - 'Sl·Sl
IX 26-22-47 1-25-57
Sn2B-52 -12 XII
X 28-22-47
27 -32 -47

Ketu
26-43-57
127-2-56
VIII Nirayana Bhava
25-22-47 Chakram
Bala~e Moon
period
11 25-23 -47
Vll27-2-56 2y-4m-20days Rat-u
M-120-8-57
26 -43 -57

VI ZT-22-47
Salun{R)
IV Ill
23-:D-57 v 28-22-47 28-22-47 26-22 -47
Juper(R)
6-19-1

The father of the girl came to me for consultation during

December 1990, during. Saturn bukthi in major period of Jupiter.
regarding her marriage date.
Jupiter period is from November 1987 to November 2003.
Jupiter is in V in the star of Kethu in VIII, and it is in the sub
of Rahu in II (No planet in Rahu stars) & so Jupiter signifies II
fully & as Rahu is pla.ced in the star of Sun in XI. Jupiter signifies
XI also.
So .I told him that Jupiter bukthi could not give marriage as
Vllth signification not found (from 3- 11 -87 to 21 -12-89).
Then it is Saturn bukthi from 21-12-89 to 3-7·1992.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 79
Saturn is in V & no planet in its stars.. So it signifies V & VII.
Saturn is in, the star of Venus in X, owning IV & XI. So Saturn
signifies V, VII, X & IV.
Saturn is in the sub of its own and having no planet in its
star, it again thro sub strength, signifies V &VII .
So marriage shall take place in'Saturn bukthi I told him.
When we ~arne it was the anthra of Venus running from 17-
11 -90 to 19-4-91.

Venus is in the star of Mars in IX, & in the sub of Jupiter. and
so signifies VIII. So Venus is ruled out.

Then Sun Anthra from 19-4-91 to 0 5~6-91. Sun is in the

star of Mars in IX and in the sub of Saturn, duly signifying VII & ·
Vfully. . ·

I was not confident to tell that marriage matters can ·come

up in this Anthra, as Sat~rn the bukthi lord is Retrograde from
16-5-1991.
Then it is Moon anthra from 5-6-91 to 21-8-91. Moon is in
its own star and in VI and so signifies I & VI & thro sub lord.
kethu signifies VIII VI & IX not connected to marital matters.
As bukthinatha Saturn will be in Retrograde motion from
16-5-91 and so matters of Saturn i.e., V & VII cannot fructify at
all ti.ll it bec9mes: direct by 18-12-91. ·
Mars Anthra is frqm 21-8-91 .to 14-10:-9.1. Mars is in th~ star
of K ethu in VIII and in the sub of Venus signifying IX, It is not
indicating marital matters.

Then it is Rahu anthJa from 14-10-91 to 1 -3-92. Rahu is in II

(No planet in its star) and so signifies II fully and it is in the star
of Sun in XI owning II. Hen ce Rahu fully signifies II & XI. So
matters are very good .. Rahu is in the sub of Sun signifying IX.
Hen ce ; it can give marriage as the bukthinatha Saturn becomes ·
Direct on 18-12-91 itself.
80 SUBLORD SPEAKS
So the marriage will take place in Rahu anthra. I told him & it
took place on 2-2-92. · ·

Summing up I must point out to students that in the bukthi of

Saturn a full significator of V & VII thro sub lord strength, marriage
had taken place in the Anthra of Rahu signifying II & XI thro
stellar position and IX thro sub lord, in the major period of Jupiter
who signifies XI thro sub lord Rahu.
Now the girl is in the family way & Doctor's have confirmed
the same.
She is now running the bukthi of Mercury from 3-7-92 to 8-
10-94.
Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in V, and is in XI, having no
planet in its stars and so signifies V & XI. So V & XI are the
matters. Sub will fructify th e same. Mercury is in the sub of ··
Saturn in V & no planet in Saturn stars. So fully signifies V.
Hence the birth of child is there, soon.
Another birth .chart, I take up for discussion, the Native Mr.
Murali born on 9-3-1961 . at 3.42 p. m. 1ST at Chennai 13.04/
80.17
Ayanamsa 23-18-19.
Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Mercury Venus Sun ·' "'
Moon Jupiter Saturn Saturn
Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mercury Kethu Saturn
Jupiter Mercury
Mr. Murali is now running major period of Venus from 25-6-
85 for 20 years.
Venus has no planet in its st?rs and placed in IX & so he
signifies IX, fu lly along with XI feebly as Mars tenants XI.
Venus in the star of Kethu in VI I.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 81

Mars
Venus
XI 11-54-20
IX 17-17·22 3~21·53
20-17-22 XII
X 19-17-22
19-17-22

Sn25-18·11
VIII
16·17·22 118·29·24
K12·3l-54
Nirayana Bhava
Mert-40-11 Chakram
Balance in Saturn
Vll18-29·24 period Rah.l
Jupiter
5-36-47
Oy-3m-15days 12-3)-54
Satum
II
16-17-22
3-41-14

VI
v 20-19-22 IV Ill
Moen
19-17-22 19-17·22 17-17-22
16-27·37

The bukthi of Venus ran from 28-6-1985 to 25-10-88. In this

bukthi he passed CA & got into a foreign bank. How IX & VII
gave him good service & success in CA examination.

Look into the sub lord of Venus. It is Sun .and it is in VIII. As

Jupiter and Saturn are in its stars, Sun does not have Vl!l
signification. Sun is in in the star of Jupiter in VI owning VI &
IX. So thro sub Sun gets the full signification of VI. So Venus
bukthi gave him ' service and success inCA exam.

Next bukthi of Sun came & it is between 25-1 0-88 and 25-
10-89. In this bukthi he has been transferred to Bangkok with
better arrangmenets. How it happens?

Sun is in VIII. As there are planets in Sun stars, Sun does

not signify VIII, Sun is in the star of Jupiter in VI owninig IX. IX
tells foreign life. Look into the sub lord also whether it connects
to foreign life. The Sub lord is Mercury. Mercury is in VII & No
planet in its stars, So it signifies VII. I and XII. Ill & XII tells foreign
movements and stay. Further Mercury is in the star of Mars in
XI owning V & X (No planet is X & V) So he was transferred to
82 SUBLORD SPEAKS
BANGKOK soon after this beginning of Sun bukthi with better
emoluments.
When the father of the boy was consulting Sun bukthi, a
query was put by the father that his son's ambition of a higher
status, (as the boy passed ICW) will be fulfilled in this bukthi
itself. before 25-10-89.

As the sub lord signifies X & XI thro·Mars, I was about to tell

that he will get his ambitions fulfilled (ie to become financial
controller). But I was hesitant & handed over the birth chart to
Mr. Mohan who was with me then. He categorically ruled out-
his getting the higher status, as the sub lord was signifying VII
& V also which will stand in the way of his getting the desired
elevation in Sun bukthi.

He quickly made an elimination process & told that it is Moon

bukthi from 25-1 0-89 to 25-6-91.

Moon signifies I, IV, VI & thro sub lord Jupiter signifies VIII & II
so no elevation.

Then Mars bukthi. 25-6-91 to 25-8-92. Mars is in the star of.

Rahu in I & in the sub of Saturn, again signifying VIII & II, again
no change for betterment.

Rahu bukthi from 25-8-92 to 25-8-95. Rahu is in Lagna

bhavam. in .the star of kethu in VII and thro sub lord Mercury
signifying XI & X apart from VII & V.
/

But Rahu as node represents Sun a significator of VI & II

.and so better placed. than Sun, now the bukthi lord. So there is·
elevation in that bukthj only.

It is intimated to me by the father of the boy that he is now

lucky to get that status .from 4th week of September,
From this, one should notice that the strength of the matter
portrayed by the bukthi lord is allowed to fructify by the
signification of sub lord. It is a subtle matter that the bukthi lord
Sun though signifies VI but it is tagging will IX also. Where as
KRISHNAMURTI!PADHDHATI 83
Rahu as node gets a powerful connection to lagna again thro
Sun, as it represents Sun a full significatorof II & VI. comparably
better placed & powerful.

That is how the argument goes by Mohan, and it came true.

It is his argument that while giving credence to sub lord, one
should not lose sight of the strength of the stellar strength also.

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84 · SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPEAKS

During July this year, my wife was bad with ill health and she
consulted Mr. Mohan.

Query: Regarding sickness and health.

She herself gave No . 51 between 1 & 249.

Taken up for working at 12.7 p.m. on 31-7-92 at Madras

Ayanamsa 23-44-26.

Planet Sublord Planet Sub lord

Sun Rahu Venus · Jupiter
Moon Mars Saturn Venus
Mars Venus Rahu Mars
Mercury Kethu Kethu Venus
Jupiter Jupiter
Lagna cusp sublord is .Ketu and it is in the star of Mars in XI
owning VJ, and is in the sub of Venus in II signifying I, II & IV.

Mars
9·18-45 K4-48 -54
X 9·47-16 XI 12-54-34
XII 114·26-40
14·45-22

II 10·15-54
IX Sn11·33· 43
8·20·19 Nirayana Bhava Me19·00·19
Chakram Ve27-40-8
Balance in Ketu
Sat period Mo<n
21·55·21 4y-211l-9days 5-21-4
VI II Ul 8·20·19
10;15·54 Ju21 ·12-47

VII
14·26·40 VI v IV
Rat-u 14-45- 22 12-54·34 9-47-16
4·48-54
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 85
So lagna is c€ntered around VI & IV, and it i.s a bad sign for
health matters.

Vlth cusp was .looked in to. The sublord is Rahu and it is in VI

& no planet in its stars, and so it is a very serious matter.

Rahu is in the star of Kethu in XII. This tells chronic type,

H ospitalisation for a longer period. Always l agna tells
consolidation where as Xllth tells destruction while discussing
such health matters .

Rahu is in the sub of Mars owning VI and so serious sickness.

As Rahu the sublord of the Vlth cusp is connected to Taurus,

thro Mars the sublord of Rahu, he confirmed the location of
sickness and affliction is centered around Throat. Please note
that Mars stands for serious sort of ulcers.

Doctors dia-gnosed at a later date that she was suffering

from CANCER in THROAT.

Mohan already suspected the Same and the trouble in throat

only, he worked that the matter to be death with utmost caution
pnd to.take heavy and quick steps.

And I accordingly consulted experts like the Son of Dr. .

Sundaravadanam and Dr. Sastry of Adyar Cancer Institute.

They advised that feeding to be thro a tube to the stomach

and it was done in Dr. Sundaravadanam Nursing home.

My wife was suffering too much and"so I again sent for Mr.
Mohan last week and posted a query·as under:-

How long the suffering arid when .it ends for my wife Savithri.

I gave a number 84, between 1 & 249 for the above query
and it was worked out by Mohan at 12-1 0 noon on 1- 11 -92 at
Chennai 13-04/80-17.

Ayanamsa 23-44-16 .
86 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Planet Sub lord Plenet Sub lord

Sun Venus Venus Venus
Moon Saturn Saturn Mercury
Mars Sun Rahu Saturn
Mercury Venus Kethu Saturn
Jupiter Moon

X1·26-&> Xl 1-27-9
IX Mars
Kelu
0-10-14 29-16-44
29-53-54

VIII XII
28-57-23 Nirayana 8hava o-38-1e
VII 0-0-0
Chakram
Balance in Sun
Sat period
18- 18-17 3y-om-22days I 0-0-0
Ma 3-11-31 II 28-57-23
VI 0-38-18

Ra29-53-54
Sn
v Ve21-29-14
15-21-24
Jupiter
1-27-9 MerS-53-50 10-42-4
Ill 0 - 1Q-14
IV 1-26-&>

As the query is virtually about the Longevity of my wife, the

Vllth cusp and its sublord were looked into.

It was Mercury.
Taking Vllth cusp as my wife 's lagna, Mohan discussed the
matter, as under.
M ercury the sublord of lagna VII is in X (IV), in the star of
Saturn in XII (VI) owning II (VIII)
So it is very weak and tells the very weak status of her
longevity.
To confirm his, he again looked into the sublord of Mercury. It
was Venus.
 KRISH.NAMURTI PADHDHATI . 87
Venus isX (IV) and no planets in its stars and so X is the full
· signification of Venus X tells the· last journey of a person, in
such matters, like longevity.

. Further Venus owns IX (Ill) As Aquarius is the Lagna (VII) IX

IS a Bhadhaka status. ·

Venus is in the star of Mercury in X (IV) last journey indicated.

So Mohan indicated to me that her last days are very very
near.

He worked out the Ruling Pla.nets for the time, the Horary
chart is rnade. .

It were Sun, Saturn/Moon, Saturn/Sun.

So, he said that the life may end in end in the comb.ination of
Moon, Saturn and Sun.

And he pointed out that, as the lagna cusp VII Sublord being
Mercury a fast moving planet, (only next to Moon) the end is
very very near and hinted that it Will be 16-11-92,- as it is a
Monday, Poosam (Saturn) star and in Sun sub.

(Moon/Saturn/Sun) if the same does not t~ke place on

Monday. Thiruvonam star (Makara rasi of Saturn) and Sun sub.
Thiruvonam star that is in the night of 2-11-92. (Moon/Saturn/
Sun)

Actually the end came at 3-45 a.m. of 3-11-92, but Mohan

did not tell me personally, except thro 'Jaj bhay' another friend
of l"!'line and KP follower.

As indicated therein now it is the major period of Mars from

22-7-89 to 22-7-96 and currently is the bukthi of Saturn from
13-11-1991 to 22-12-1992 ..

We discussed thread-bare the signification. of Saturn, the

bukthi lord.
88 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Saturn is in VII in the star of. Venus in X There are planets in
the star of Venus and Saturn. So Saturn signifies IV & X.
So in terms of VII (reg wife) S~turn fully signifies X ·
Saturn is in· sub of Mars in VIII and so X marakadhipathi as
from VII, he is in its own star . ~nd no planets in its stars.
As Mars own Ill & X, Mars gets the signification of IX from VII
(Leo) and for Leo, IX is Bhadhakasthanam.
Hence, the bukthinatha, Saturn gets the signification of .X
thro stellar status and II & IX thro sublord status.
Hence; the pukthi of Saturn is bad for Longevity for wife more
so during Jupiter Anthra which starts on 29-10.:.92.
It is very bad from 29-10-92 as Jupiter is in VI in the star of
Mercury in XII, and placed in the· sub of Venus and Venus
signifies Ill, as it is in the constellation of Kethu in Ill.
Ill is IX from VI.! & VII cusp is in Leo and so the Anthranatha
Jupiter, acquires the signification of Bhadakasthana. ·
She passed away with the advent of Jupiter Anthra i.e. after
29-10-92.
Now; I like to draw the ·attention of KP followers and students
how the signification of Saturn, during the end, b~ing X, II & IX &
Jupiter the Anthranatha getting XII. IX & these significations are
portrayed in the Horary by Mr. Mohan being X, XII IX & II.
Now I draw the attention of old students of KP, during the life
time of Sri KSK to the fact that he too often emphasised that
the Horary is nothing but the portrayal of true and intricate matter
what is found in a Natal Position (birth chart).

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KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 89

SUB LORD SPEAKS

In continuation of my series of Articies. today I have chosen
to discuss the Horoscope of Sow. Janaki. who got married on
17-8-92. The planetary configuration is unique & so taken to
discuss this chart.

Born at 3.30 a.m. 1ST on 3-9-70 at Perambur. Madras 13.04/

80.17.

Ayanamsa: 23-25-51.
Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Moon Jupiter Jupiter
Moon Venus Venus Venus
Mars Rahu Saturn Mars
Mercury Saturn Rahu Rahu
Kethu Jupiter
It is the major period of Rahu for the native from 28-5-1988
for 18 years.

X 10-45
XII
IX 8·45 Satum Xl11 · 45
11-45
29-11-9

RahJ
8-~-24
110-46-58
VIII Nirayana Bhava
7-45 Chakram
Balance in Sun
period at birth Mars
6-23 -1 9
VII Oy-8m-25days 117-45
10-46-58
Ke 8-23-24
Sn16-34-19

Mercury(~)
IV 10-45
3-53-49
Vl11·45 v 11-45 Ju9-22-19
lvtiS-21·~
Ve2-40-24
1118-45
'90 SUB LORD SPEAKS
She got married on 17-8-1992, whef! it is the major period of
Rahu, bukthi of Jupiter, Anthra of Venus sookhma of Mercury.
How is Rahu?

Rahu is in VIII in its own star and it is in the sub of Rahu (in
its own sub) being a Node represents Saturn fu lly, because,
there is no planet in Saturn stars and in 7th also, at the same
time Saturn signifies 2nd house. So Rahu fully signifies 7, 8 &
2 thro Saturn Indicates marriage unexpectedly.

Jupiter is in Ill (No planet in its stars) & so signifies Ill, VI & XI.
Jupiter is in the star of Rahu in VIII &. so Jupiter has the
significations of Ill. VII X & VIII under stellar strength.

Jupiter is in the sub of its own and so signifies VIII as it is in

the star of Rahu in VIII.

So, though VIII is not a negative one for marriage, but not
well connected to marital matters.

Then how, these planets allowed the marriage on 17-8-1992

in Rahu period, Jupiter bukthi.

Here we have to look in a different angle. Rahu is coming in

the scene & it is a Node. Rahu is in Aquarius & no planet tenents
its stars and so he is the only sole representative of Saturn, so
he fully signifies what Saturn stands for.

How is Saturn?

Saturn is in X and no planet in its stars & so Saturn signifies

X, VII & VIII. Saturn is in the star of Sun in II owning II. Saturn is
in the sub of Mars duly signifying II.

Hence, Saturn siginifies X, VII, VIII, II.

So, Rahu acquires these significations & so marriage in Rahu

period.
By virtue of Jupiter placed in the sub of its own, it fully signifies
Rahu in VIII. Who in turn acquired the strength of II & VII, as a
 IKRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 91
representative of Saturn.

So marriage in this bukthi of Jupiter.

Marriage date ·falls in the Anthra of Venus & sookshama of

Mercury.

Venus is in Ill in the star of Mars in I owning V. Venus is in its

own sub & so signifies I & V. V is good for Happy occasions in
a native's life.

Mercury sookshma, Mercury is in II and no planet in Mercury

star, and so gets the signification of II, Ill & XII Mercury is in the
star of Sun in II owning II. II for kutumba Ill for contract and XII .
sayanasukam.

Mercury is in the sub of Saturn a full significator of X, VII &

VIII & II.
So, the marriage was solemized in this Sookshma of
Mercury.

Now. I take up the Horoscope of Mr. K. Karuanakaran born

on 20-9-1954 at 4.30 a.m. 1ST Madras 13.04/80.17.

Ayanamsa: 23-12-27
Planet Sub lord Planet SUb lord
Sun Saturn Venus Moon
Moon Saturn Saturn Mercury
Mars Rahu Rahu Mars
Mercury Rahu Kethu Sun
Jupiter Rahu
Let me discuss various incidents in his life· & how the sub
lords of planets ruling then acted and the events taken place.

He got married on 19-2-1978. Then it was the major period

of Jupiter from July to July 1983.

Jupiter is in its own star in XI & so signifies XI, VIII fully and V
. feebly. And being in the sub of Rahu signifies Ill only.
92 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Mn10·28-8
Vlll IX X XI 12·18·51
10·18·51 11-18·51 12-18-51 Ketu
17-39-41

Ju 1-46-8
VII
XII
10·50·23 Nirayana Bhava
11-18·51
Chakram
Balance in Rahu
period at birth
VI 12y-10m-8days I
11-18-57 10-50-23

Venus
Mars . Slll3-15-8
. 18-34-25
18-10-15 IV 1110-18-51
Sa13-38-18
Ra17-19·41 12·18-51 Mercury
Ill
v 12·18-51 11-18·51
24-34·58

So, in Jupiter period, he should enjoy all happiness XI, sexual

enjoyment VIII, Happy occasions like marriage & child birth V &
should enjoy these on the positive side as sub signifies Ill and
as also X comes in, he should enter into professional life too.

It di~ happen in different sub periods well connected to such

matters thro their sub lords.
So. the major period lord Jupiter has Vth signification duly
connected to Ill sub tells ha.PPY occasions in life.
On the day of his marriage it was the bukthi of Sun from 10-
2-78. to 28-11-78. Let us discuss Sun.

Sun is in Lagna in its own star end so Sun is a full significator

of Lagna only. So thro Sub alone it should have given marriage.

S1Jn is in the .sub of Saturn owner of VII cusp placed in Ill.

Saturn has no planet in its stars and so fully signifies VII & Ill.

Further Saturn is placed in the star of Rahu in V.

So marriage took place in this bukthi of Sun. He entered
service on 26-7-1976. It was then the bukthi of Venus (from 10-
6-75 to 10-2-78).
. KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 93
Venus is in Ill. owning X. There are planets Mars and Rahu in
Venus stars and so Venus does not signify X at all. Moreover
Venus is tenanting ,the star of Rahu placed in V. This utterly
negates a man e.ffering in to service.
How then in th is.bukthi?
Look into the sub lord of Venus. It is Moon, Moon is in X, and
·no planet in its stars, and so Moon attains full signification of X.
This gave him service entry in this Venus bukthi .
He has only daughter born on 14-12-78 . and it was then
Moon bukthi (28- 11 - 78 to 28-3-80).
Moon is in the s tar of Rahu in V & under stellar position itself
Vth matters ha ve come and the matter is well confirmed by the
sub lord of Moon i.e., Saturn having been placed in the star of
Rahu in V. So Mo on gets Vth signification thro its sub lord also,
and so only child birth in this bukthi.

Purchase of a H ouse done during 1982. It was in the bukthi

of Rahu from 4-3- 1981 to 28-7-1983.
L et us see how R ahu connec ted to IVth matter.
Rahu is in V in the star of Venus placed in Ill owning X. ·
Students well k now tha t Ill & X are quite detrimental houses for
one to acquire the IV house matters.
So sub also should have acted.
Rahu is in the sub of Mars owning IV & No planet in IV.
H ence, purchas~ of a house in Rahu bukthi.
He got a noth er flat purchased during 1990 beginning and it
was Kethu bukthi in Saturn period.
Kethu bukthi is from 10-4-89 to 19-5-90.
Kethu is in XI & no planet in Kethu stars so Kethu signifies X I.
Kethu is in the star of Rahu in V.
V & XI does not connect House matters.
 94 SUBLO~D SPEAKS

N ow as usual look in to the sub lord. It is Sun a full significator

oflagna .
Th en how he got a h ouse in this bukthi.
"It is a baffling matter, in the case of Nod es" as our Late
Guruj i, Sri. KSK 's oft-quot ed line. Now it is a Vedavakku for us.
As told a bove Kethu in Mithunam (Gem ini) having no planet
in its stars, it fu lly represe n ts the Rasi lord Mercury and its
significations .

See· how Mercury signifies. Mercury is in II owning XI, without

' a ny planet in its stars, and so signifies II & X I. Further Mercu ry
is in the star of Mars owning IV & no planet in IV. So Kethu had
acquired the IVth matters thro its Ra si lord.

So, a flat in Kethu bukthi. You please lend your patient ear to
me now.

When bukthinatha Kethu could give a house to him, one

sho uld scrutinise if the Dasa lord has any indications connected
to house matters.

Reverting back to discuss the D asa lord Saturn, and its

period is from 28-7-1983 to 28-7-2002 Saturn is in Ill. No planet
in its stars so it fully si gnifies Ill , VI & V II .

S aturn is in the star of Rahu in V. So sig n ifies V also.

In stella r strength no IVth house matter th en what look into

sub lord. lt is Mercury and Mercury is in II owning XI &no planets
in its stars. So Mercury is a full significator of II & XI. Furthermore
Mercury is in the star of Mars in V owning IV. No planet in IV.

So. thro sub, Saturn the Dasa lord fully signifies II, XI, V & IV.

So I find that Dasa lord has a say to the h appen ings, during
various bukthis, in such manner.

Mr. Karunakaran is a close friend of M r. M ohan and he was

consulted Juring Saturn bukthi, Saturn period i.e 1986 if he could
enter into speeuliltion and will it fetch him monies. It was advised
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHAT I 95
by Mohan that whether he speculates or not, he is getting Tons
of money during Mercury bukthi du ly forwarding his arguments
in support of his prediction.

M ercury bukthi from 1-8-86 to 10-4-89 and Mercury in II

owning XI without any planet in its stars. So fully signifies II & XI.

Mercury in the star of Mars in V & so IV, V, IX. So summing

up stellar strength is II, VI, IV, V & IX.

Mercury is in the sub of Rahu in V (There are planets in

Rahu stars) Rahu is in the star of Venus in Ill owning X.)

So, Mr, Karunakaran ·had hereby flow of additional finance

thro speculation. duly swelling his bank balance in Mercury
bukthi,

So Mercury had specially acted so well as it is in the major

period of Saturn as already explained, its signification being too
well , having II & XI significations thro its sub lord Mercury.

The native had change in his service to a better organisation

on 1-3-1991.

It was Venus bukthi in the major period of Saturn.

Venus bukthi is from 19-5-1990 to 17-7-93 and Venus is in

th e star of Rahu in V. V tells trouble in the current service. But
there was nothing like that.

As an offer came from a better organisation he switched

over to it. The sub lord substantiates the major change with
better status.

Venus is in the sub of Moon ,& Moon is in X. having no planet

in its stars and so fully signifies X. Hence a better status. The
same Moon owns XII cusp and no planet in XII. So. Xllth also
comes in. Hence, change to a new environment with high
service conditions in terms of the major Dasa Lord Saturn.
OM TAT SAT
. 96 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPEAKS

I take up the Horoscope of Smt. N. Of Srivilliputhur who is
well placed in service, but not so at all in her matrimonial life.

She was born on 5/6-1-1954 at 3.10 a.m. 1ST at Srivilliputtur

' 9-36/77-46.
Ayanamsa 23-12-24.

Balance in Sun period at birth 3 years 5 months 26 days.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Jupiter Venus Sun
Moon Jupiter Saturn Kethu
Mars Venus Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Moon Kethu Mars
Jupiter Rahu

\1116-44 -33
v VI
Jur;:ier(R)
VIII
9-21 9-21 5-21
25-15-3

Ketu
IV
1-15-53
7-21
IXS-21

-·
U15-21
Ml2-14-43
X 7-21
Rah.J
1- 15-53

Mars
Sa2··51-28
16-38-38
Me16-31-38
16-44-33 Sa tum Xl9-21
Ve16-10-~
14-38- 13
115-21
I x;~ !.:·~~,

She entered service as Stene in Air Port of Madras during

the middle of 1974, corresponding with the beginning of Rahu
major period which started on 2-7-1974.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 97
Let us discuss how Rahu fared well with securing service.
Rahu is in II, in the star of Sun in II, owning X, No planet in X
th bahava.. It is matter, telling on the professioal one .
Sub alone decides if the matter shown by the stellar position
gets fructified or not.

Now look into the sub lord of Rahu. It is Juiter in VII owning 11
& V. Kethu is in Jupiter star Punarpoosam. So Jupiter does not
signify II, V & VII.

What is its (Jupiter's} Stellar strengths? Jupiter is in the star

of Mars in XII, owning I & VI (Note that there are no planets in
both I & VI bhavas). So Jupiter acquires the signification of XII,
I & Yl fully.
So in the bukthi and Anthra of Rahu having the matters of 11
& X, and being in the sub of Jupiter signifyin-g VI fully, gave her
lucrative service in Air Port. ·

This is the good portion of Rahu is II, X thro star and VI thro
sub . These significations got her service.

Bad position is X, I, XII VI & these will tell upon the matrimonial
portion of life. These significations delayed her marriage upto.
her age of 28 and she got married durin g Saturn bukthi (8-8-79
to 8-8-82) during August '8 1.

That time is worked out to be in the Anthra of Mars 25-6-

1981 to 24-8-81.

First let us look into the significations of Saturn to bring about

· the marriage.

Saturn owns Ill & IV is in XII (No planet in its stars). So Saturn
fully signifies Ill, IV & XII. Saturn is in the star of Rahu in 11.
So, II & Ill has connection to marriage matter IV & XII detriment
matter for the same. ·

Let us discuss if Sublord gives a helping hand for bringing

about the marriage.
98 SUB LORD SPEAKS
Saturn is in the sub of Kethu, who is in turn placed in the star
of Jupiter in VII owning II & V.
Hence, the matter of II & Ill with the help of Sublord significators
VII , fl & V got her married in Mars anthra. (Mars is in the star of
Rahu in II & in the sub of Venus in II in its own star owning VII.

Now we will switch over to the major period of Rahu, as

already pointed out in the previous paras that the bad portion
of the significations X, I, XII &VI as regards matrimonial life. will
also work out.

Now In Saturn bukthi with its signification of VII. VI & V thro

sub gave her marriage in Mars anthra who in its tum signified II
&VII thro its Sublord Venus.
As the entire period of Rahu tells a bad one matrimonially
(X, I, XII, VI) she got out of her husband's house during July
'82 and subsequently got Divorced during 1985 beginning.

It was Mercury bukthi from 14-6-1982 to 2-1-89 when she

finally left the house .

Mercury is in the star of Venus in II owning Vii & XII.

But Mercury is in the sub of Moon placed in the star of Sun

owning X (No planet in X).

So in the major period of Rahu fully acquiring the major

detrimental significators "tor marital life had brought about the
break in the marital life in the bukthi of Mercury with Xth
signification thro Sub and finally in the lag end of that bukthi got
Divorce also.

So you may note in Mercury bukthi the total significators of

Rahu and Mercury i.e. X, I, XII, VI of Rahu & X of Mercury worked
out _the detriment matter and go implemented and Divorce
effected.
Let me discuss another horoscope of Mr. S.H. born on 23-3-
1959 at 5.00 p.m. at Vayalpad (Madanapalli) 13-4/78-37.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 99
Ayanamsa 23-16-38
Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Venus Vensu Saturn
Moon Jupiter Saturn Mercury
Mars Jupiter Rahu Venus
Mercury Kethu Kethu Venus
Jupiter Venus

Ke2:>-26-56 X 19-3)
Venus
Me18-&l-10 XI
9-51-21 Mars
VIII18-3J 19-3)
IX 19-3) 16-52-32
SuB-49-16

VII XII
18-35-8 Nirayana Bhava 18-3)
Chart
Balanc~ in Venus
period
I 18-35-8
VI 9 y - 4 m - 25 days
18-3) MOCI'I
2:>-27-53

v 19-3) IV 19-3)
Ill
1118-3)
Sa tum Jupter(A) Raru
18-3)
13-18-52 8-39-53 2:>-26-56

He is a Railway employee from July '84 when it was the

bukthi of Mars the major period of Mars.

Mars is in its own star in X & so fully signifies X & in the sub
of Jupiter in if placed in the star of Saturn in IV owning IV (no
.
planet in VI}, So he got into service il') the bukthi of Mars.
.
Again you discuss Mars, who being placed in the sub of
_ Jupiter in Ill (No planet is its stars) and so signifies Ill, V & VIII
100 SUBLORD SPEAKS
and being in the star of Saturn in IV owning VI, some accident
matters also seen. (IV, VIII, XII fall under IV th Trigon).
Actually he was involved in a very serious accident resulting
in a head-on collusion with a fast moving lorry on 13-1-1987.
It was the major period of mars, who, thro sub signifies IV &
VI and it indicates Accident mattes. Now it is the bukthi of Saturn
and Anthra of Saturn (from 3-12-86 to 6-2-87) and he had
operation on his Skull and was hospitalized for a full year ie.
entire Saturn bukthi( from 3-12-86 to 12-1-88)
H ow Saturn, in his chart, indicates Accident.
Saturn is in IV, in the star of Kethu, in VIII, IV &VIII tell accidents
(IV, VIII & XII). This is the stellar status of Saturn and this tells
the matter. Whether they will happen or not, the Sublord & its
signification tells.
What is the Sublord of Saturn. It is Mercury. Mercury is in VIII
in its own star, owning XI & II (No planet in XI, Rahu in II). So the
VII I signification thro Sublord had given him very serious Accident.
How then a long Hospitalisation when Saturn signifies XI also,
thro its sub lord Mercury as discussed above?
This is very subtle and Moon point to be discussed.
Saturn signifies thro sub, VIII & XI fully. VIII gave him accident.
XI must have given him im mediate relief and no
Hospitalisation. Then how Hospitalisation?
Now you look into the Sublord of the XI th cusp. This will tell
what the XI th house is . It is the secret of ' Krishnamurti
Padhdhati'.

The Sublord is Mars.

Mars is in X in its own star and so signifies X & IX fully (XI th

tells de-hospitalisation & X negates the same power of XI) .

Mars is in the sub of Jupiter own ing V & VIII & being in the
star of Saturn in IV owning VI tells accident, operation and
KRJSHNAMURTJ PADHDHATJ 101
sickness and no relief expected out of XI th. (In general XI th
tells dehospitalisation & immediate relief from sickness
normally).

At his juncture I may recall my Article in Astrology & Athrishta

of May 1981 Ed ited by Sri. K. Subraman iam who is also the
Editor of this esteemed Magazine KP & Astrology' under caption
'Cuspal sublords and their impact on Dasa effects' and I advise
the students to read the same to widen their knowledge
regarding the Cuspal sublords.

As the major period lord Mars, is connected to VIII, IV & VI

thro sub, even the fag end of mars J!',leriocl, he has been operated
upon in the beginning month of 1991 also.

You can now see how the Subl.ord speaks, in a subtle

manner.

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·,
102 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUBLORD SPEAKS
Father of Mr. Kubendran had been here to consult about his
Son's career & said not happy at all.
He reported that the boy is missing from 7-2-93 & all in
unhappy state of affairs in the family on this score.
1 made the chart, cited here under and that currently he is
running the bukthi of Sun from 27-7-92 to 9-7-93.
Sun is in X owning X it is in the star of Venus in X. So Sun is
a full significator of X & XII. Sun is well placed in the house of
occupation and is in the star of Venus in X.
Then he how is completely unemployed since 6 months as
complained by his father.
Look in to the sub lord of Sun.

It is Mercury.
Mercury is in X in the star of Moon in VII owning IX no planet
in IX.
So the 91h signification made him loose his job, despite the
fact , Sun is a full significator of X, stellar wise .
He also added that the-·boy left the house on 7-2-93.
Sun thro sub gets 71h and lxth significations , and 121h is not
to be found at all.
So, &felt the complaint of father, as the boy missing is not to
be acceptable.
1first crossed him, saying that the boy is not under missing
left, as complained ·by him and he would be returning on the
chithirai star day connected to Venus ie 11th February.
Then the father conceded that he received message that he
is in his sisters house and will be returning after two or three
days .
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 103 .
Now the students of KP may please note that the absence
of 121h signification, did notmake him wonder in new
environments and thus come under missing list.
Students may also note that the Sublord signification of Sun
made him unemployed and he suffers a disturbed status
domestically also.

Now let us discuss the major period of Saturn from August

'82 for 19 years, now running.

Mr. Kubendran born on 12-9-63 at 11-25 a.m. at Madras 13-

04/80-17
Ayanamsa 23-19-59.
Steller Planet Sublord Signification
signification Thro Sublord
X, XII Sun Mercury VII &IX
VIII Moon Moon VIII
XI,I&VI Mars Moon VIlli
VII & IX Mercury Moon VIlli
X Jupiter Rahu IV&V
X Venus Mars I, VI&XI
Ill, I, VI & XI Saturn Rahu IV&V
IV&V Rahu Saturn Ill, II, VI & XI
II, XII & X Kethu Saturn Ill, I, VI & XI
Saturn is in Ill & no planet in Saturn stars and so signifies Ill
fully & IV feebly.

Saturn is in the star of Mars in XI, owning lagna & VI. So XI, I
& VI fully.

I asked the father, if the boy had a successful education and

good service either to in previous Venus bukthi.
He said that the boy stopped his education with 71h standard
and served in more than half a dozen places, with no
permanency or continuousely.
 104 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Why was the question.

Mn18-9· 35
v 24-37-19 VI VII VIII
Jupiter
23-27-19 19-42-16 18-37-19
24-20-25
Ra23-48-57

IX
IV 22-37-19
Nirayana Bhava 19-37- 19
Chart
Balance in Rahu
period
Sawrn(R) X 22-37-19
24-20-13 2 y - 5 m - 24 days Sn25-26-31
11119-37-19 Ve 29-34

XII
Ketu Mercury(R)
I 23-37-19
23-48-57 10-16-40
19-42-16 Mars
II 18·37-19 IX 24-37-19
6-35-42

The period of Saturn should here given him a good education

& fine service from 1982, with the advent of this period of Saturn
as it signifies Ill, I, VI & XI.
Then what is the matter and why such a failure in life.
Now you have to resort to Sublord which alone can extend a
helping hand to the predictor.
The Sublord is Rahu and it is in VIII, in the star of Jupiter in IV
owning II & V (Kethu is in II & no planet in V).So summing go up
Saturn signifies thro Sublord, IV & V, detrimental to the
professional life of the boy.
· · - This well portrays the real postion of the professional life of
the boy, who is suffering an unsettled life.
I take up another horoscope of Sow. D.C. born on 15-12-
1954, at 1.30 noon at Madras 13-04/80-17.
Ayanamsa23-12-27.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 105
I
Planet Sublord Pia net I Sublord
I I
Sun Saturn Juipter Saturn
Moon Jupiter Venus Saturn
Mars Kethu Saturn Staturn
Mercury Mars Rahu Mercury
Kethu Mercury

Ketl"u
I II Ill
13-~113
23-20-7 25-26 23-26
IV 19·26

Jl.4)iter(R)
Mars
14-39-53 Nirayana Bhava Chart v 16-26
Balance in Ketu
period
2 y - 3 m - 20 days Moon
Xl16·26 8-56-33
Vl17-26

Sn29-35-53 Vlll25-26
X 19-26
Mercury Satum VII
Ral"u
23-57-33 23-20-53 23-20-7
13-5-13
IX 23· 26 Ven23-9-33

The brother of the native come to me to consult and said

that she is suffering much estrangement at the hands of her
husband.

The brother is a good KP enthusiast and has a fair knowledge.

. He said, she was married during 1976, is the bukthi of Kethu,

major period of Venus.

Let us discuss how Kethu gave her marriage . .

Ketu is in Ill and in the star of Rahu in IX, in Sagittarius, and

so represents Jupiter in IV. No much encouraging, as IV, I & X
thro Juipter does not tell about marriage.
106 SUBLORD SPEAKS
As Kethu is in the sub of Mercury in IX in its own star duly
owning VII, signifies IX & VII, so Marriage in Kethu bukthi, taken
place.

Marriage went on well, ~ut her life martially not as it should

be. Estrangement from husband was to the core, but marital
life continuous without break and the never leaves h.e r huaband's
house.
Then I discussed Sun period from April '77 to April '83.

Sun is in IX, in the star of Mercury in IX, owning VII. So Sun

fully signifies IX & VII. This tells good marital life without break.
Of course in her husband's house, status and standard as wife
is absent.

Why Sun is in the sub of Saturn, placed in the star of Jupiter

in IV, owning I & X (No planets in I & X). IV & X are weak houses
for happy marital life.
Then Moon period from April '83 for 10 years, Moon is in V
owning V. (No planets in its stars). So, Moon signifies V fully,
and further Moon is in the star of Kethu in Ill & so V & Ill is good
for happy marital life.

But if you look into the sub lord, it is Jupiter and Juipter is in
lv in the star of Saturn in VII, owning XI & XII. (Mars in XI & no
planet in XII).

So, thro sub lord, Moon signifies VII & XII. Generally planets
signifying IV or VII or XII, natives suffer estrangement from their
life partners or business part '3rs. Vllth sustains the marital life,
without any break.
So all thro this Moon period, she is suffering estrancement
only from her husband who is a very big officer.

Moon period ends by 5-4-1993, and the major period of Mars

begins. /

I discussed mars.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 107
Mars is in XI, no planet in Mars stars so it signifies XI & II and
being in the star of Rahu, signifies IX. So these are good for
marital matters and improvement for marital relationship.
Mars being in the sub of Kethu duly signifiying IX. So I said,
there will be a slight improvement in the relationship.
Anyway Rahu, as node represents Juipter in IV. But will be
countered by th e sub lord Kethu, also a Node, duly representing
VII & IX as it represents Mercury in IX owning VIII.
I told the borther that the estrangement will be in low profile
and the brother was happy while leaving my room.

Now let me take up another one. I received a letter from Mr K

Rajaram Rao of Hyderabad an avid follower of KP system and
a subscriber of KP & Astrology.
He indica t ed No.16 duly given by his brother's daughter in
UK , stating that the is suffering from pain left arm for quite a
long time and wished that Mr. Mohan also discuss the Horary in
detail.

I entrusted this to Mr. Mohan and the Horary map & his
arguments are as under.
No.16

Query Health.

Tak en up at Chennai 13.04/80.17

Time 5.30 p.m. on 23.1.93

Cusp Sublord
I Saturn
v Mercury
\11 Saturn
VII Saturn
XI Mercury
108 SUB LORO SPEAKS

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus Venus
Moon Mercury Saturn Rahu
Mars Moon Rahu Rahu
Mercury Venus Kethu Rahu
Jupiter . Venus

II 20-5·23 1111 6 -5-23

XII I
Keth.J Ma rs (R)
17-5·23 21 -53-20
25· 28-14 18· 18-44

Venus
IV
26 - 47- 14
13-5-23
Xl13-5-23
Nirayana Bhava Chart
Balance in Moon
period
Mn 17-50-14
X 13·5-23 4y-1m-15days v
Sn9-45-14 13-5- 23
Mercury
9·39- 44

Rah.J VI
25-28-14 VII 17 -5 -23
VIII 21-53-20 Jupiter
20-5-23 20- 53 -14

To discuss Diseases, w_.e check up the s ub lord of the VI th

cusp.
Here it is Saturn. No planet in Saturn stars and it is in X. And
Saturn in the star of Mars lord of Lagna & VIII in Ill bhava feels
trouble with Arms, shoulders, hands, As Saturn signifies X, no
complete cure can be expected.
As Saturn is connected to Ill, corresponding to Gemini,
Rheumati c pains in shoulde rs and Arms, indicated.
As Saturn being the sub lord of VI th cusp it is of chronic in
nature and the one as a result of suppressionof Urine and as
Saturn is in the sub of Rahu , in VIII corresponding with scorpio,
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 109
ruling genitals and rectine, bladder & urithra and suppression
of Menstrual, beqomes the other cause for such pain & affliction.
As Saturn is in the sub of Rahu duly s ignifiying IX & VI Rahu
having been placed in the star of Mercry, routed thro Vlll .no
complete cure can be expected .

V th cusp sub lord tells if cure is promised at all. The sub

lord is Mercury.

Mercury is in the star of Sun, owning V tells there is medical

d!lid. Is it effective? Look into the sub lord of Me rcry. It is Venus
and it is in the star of Juipter in VI owning XII. This tells the
ineffective medicines taken by the native or Doctors could not
correctly diagnose and prescribe exact medicine.

Summing up, no complete cure is revealed, as 11 1h cusp

sub lord is also Mercury duly connected to VI & XII thro its sub
lord Venus.

Now it is Mercury bukthi - a significator of V & IX thro star

and thro sub signify VI & XII also .. lt is not encouraging up to 8-
6-94.

Then Kehtu bukthi from 8-6-94 to 8-1-95 Kethu thro Rahu·

sub and representing Venus VI &XII indicated so not good.

Follow Venus bukthi from 8-1-95 to 8-9-96. It is in its own

sub and so signifies VI & XI I again and so bad.

S~n bukthis from 8-9-96 to 8-3-97, and it is in the sub of

Venus duly signifying VI & XII, so the trouble continues.

Then Mars period from 8-3-97 for 7 years. Mars thro sub
lord Moon signifies IV & X. N ot happy.

Totally summing up, the trouble continues.

++ +
110 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SPEAKS

Mr. Hari Krishnan is a permanetnt employee of Simpson
group of companies, Chennai and he came here for consultation
on 9-3-93.
Born on 8/9-9-1967 at 1-25 Mid night 1ST at Tirupati 13-40/
79-20

Ayanamsa 23-23-20
In this instance, the native was rather rigid and v~ry silent.
He wanted to k now if the birth time is correct, as the same is
d uring mid-night.
He will neither come out freely with some incidents for me to
check up, nor tell at least his date of entry into the service, so.
stoic he was.
The breaking point came and Mohan came to the rescue.

Saturn(R) Ratu I
XII
16·15-21 6·38·21 17-2·46
17·22
X 12·22 )0 15·22

II 12·22
IX 11·22 Jupiter
Nirayana Bhava Chart 28·52-37
Balance in Jupiter
period at birth
Venus(R)
14y-7m-6days 6·54· 16
VIII
12-22 Ill 11 ·22
Sn 22-4-48

Mo01
VI 17·22 21·59·50 Mercury
VII Mars v 15·22 5·9·29
17-2-46 Kettu N 12·22
5-49-2
6·38·21

So from the traditional style, the birth chart had been

calculated by Mohan in a hurried manner with the help of
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 111
calculator and the same under Placidius system is shown below.

Planets Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Rahu
MQOn Saturn Saturn Mercury
Mars Mercury Rahu Rahu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Moon
Jupiter Saturn
First he discussed the major period Lord Saturn running from
April '82 to April2001.

Saturn bukthi is from April '82 to April '85. Saturn is in the

star of Mercury is Ill & in the sub of Mercury again and so signifies
Ill & I fully & IV feebly.

Mohan indicated to him that he was a student with average

status in studioes, then.

Then Mercury bukthi from April '85 tq December '87. Mercury

is a full significator of I &Ill &thro sub of its own , signifies Ill fully
&IV feebly. So he indicated to him that he should have completed
this education successfully, but only average status.

He nodded his head which infused confidence in Mohan's

mind.

Then discussed the bukthi of Kethu from Dec. '87 to Feb. '89.

Kethu is in IV in the star of Mars in V owning VI & XI no

planets in VI to XI. So matters V, VI & XI. Rather encouraging.
Kethu is in the sub of Moon in V in the star of Jupiter in II owning
VII & X. Mohan pointed out that he should have entered into
some r'ucrative service . No the shed his silent attitude and was
happy to accept the predic~ion, duly starting he entered service
on 1-7-88.

He wanted to know when his marriage comes up.

Now h·e is running the bukthi of Moon from 18-3-93 to 18-1 0-
94.
 SUBLORD SPEAKS
112
Moon is in v owning II (No planet in Moon star). So Moon
signifies V & II. Moon is in the star of Jupiter & so II & VII & X.
Moon is in the sub of Saturn and so signifies Ill & I. Matters are
well connected for marriage to take place & sub also supports
the same with lllrd signification. So Mohan selected the Anthra
of Ketu. 11-5-94 to 14-6-94 for the marriage to come up Why?
Ketu is in the stra of Mars in V owning VI &XI. So V, VI &XI full
signification. Ketu is in the sub of Moon ~n V _owning II_ (No planet
in its star) & placed in the star of Jup1ter 1n II owmng VII (No
planets in VII).
So he told the consultant that on all counts he is getting
married in Ketu Anthra & the boy was happy and went away .
promising to intimate us on the fixation of marriage date.
1 take up another birth chart for discussion and to confirm
the efficacy of the sub lord.
Mrs. Kalpana born on 31-10-71 at 11.00 a.m. at
Kancheepuram 12'50/79-45. Ayanamsa 23-26-41.

The horoscope is as under:-

rv 29-23 v
Saturn(R}
VII
Mooo 11-33-20 20-54-19
28-23 \1125-23
5-59-34

11.1 Kethu
26 -23 16-27-38
Mars Nirayana Bhava Chart VIU 22-23
3-20-12
Balance in Saturn
period
• 22-23 15 y -2m - 16 days
Rahu IX 26- 23
16-27-38

XII 25-23 XI 28-23

I Jupiter Mercury X 29-23
20-54-19 15-12-18 27-~-'51
Ve 0-35-18 Sn13-41-4
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 113
Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Mercury Venus Mars
Moon Mercury Saturn Mars
Mars Venus Rahu Saturn
Mercury Venus Kethu Jupiter
Jupiter Jupiter
I was consulted regarding the marriage of this girl and it was
Venus bukthi then running.

I checked up the major period of Mercury from Jan '87 for 17

years.

Mercury is in X (No planet in its stars) & so fully signifies X,

VIII & X. Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in XI owning 1 & IV
(Mercury in Jupiter star). So under steller status. Mercury
signifies XI & IV fully. (Rahu in I & no planet in IV).
Mercury is in the sub of Venus in XI (No planet in Venus
Stars). So signifies XI & VI. Venus being in the star of Jupiter
and XI and so signifies XI & IV.
This tells, that marriage shall take place in ~ome bukthi,
which signifies benefic houses for marriage thro sub.
It was the beginning of Venus bukthi and so I discussed Venus
( 11-6-90 to 11-4-93).

Venus has no planet in its stars and is in XI. So signifies XI,

VI.

Venus in the star of Jupiter in XI & so signifies XI & IV.

Though XI is good IV & VI are detrimental houses for
marriage.
But, Venus was found in the sub of Mars, in II in its own star
and owning V & XII so thro sub it signifies II, V & XII.
So I thought the marriage shall take place only in this bukthi,
in some good anthra.
114 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Venus Antl"!ra ends by 1-12-90 & Sun Anthra is upto 22-1-

91.
No planet in Sun's star and placed in X owning IX. Sun is in
the star of Rahu in Lagna.
As node Rahu in Capricorn represents Saturn in V owning II
& Ill.
Sun is in the sub of Mercury in X ( No pla11et in Mercury star)
owning VII & X. Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in XI.
With the sub strength of VII & XI, I boldly told the consultant
that the girl shall get married in January '91 in this Anthra.
Last week they came and told me that the marriage took
place as told and also added a good news of child birth for the
girl during 151 week of March '93.
That is to say in the same bukthi of Venus from 11-6-90 to
11-4-93.
We have already discussed that Venus.gets II, V & XII thro
its sub lord Mars. So child birth also taken place in·the same
bukthi of Venus.
Let us see what Anthra it was. It is the Anthra of Kethu from
11-2-93 to 11-4-93.
Kethu is in VII in the star of Saturn in V & is in the sub of
Jupiter signifying V. So child birth corroborated ~ell with sub
strength.
Yet another birth chart I like to put forth he.re to show how
the sub lord alone is the strength of the planet to give good or
adverse results in terms of its significations obtained.
Mr. Sadagopan is born on 9-5-1948 at 8-32 a.m. 1ST and
Myladuthurai 11 °6'/79°42'
Ayanamsa 23-7-26
KRISHNAMURTI RADHDHATI 115

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Mercury Venus Rahu
Moon Mercury Saturn Moon
Mars Sun Rahu Juipter
Mercury Mercury Kethu Jupiter
Jupiter Mars

Xl1-11-51
Xll4-1l-51 13·59-38
Aa2J-51-12
Mercury . Venus
Su25-15-49
Mn25·34-7
6-34-41 s.a-49

110-1 1 -51
X Satum
28-11 -51 23-3-49
Nirayana Bhava Chart
Ill 27-11-51
Balance in Venus
period
IX 27·11·51 1y - 10m-15 days Mars
VIII 3-9· 19
0-11·51 rv 28-11 -51

J~iter(R) Kelh.J
VI
4-56- 56 al-51-12
4-11-56
Vll3-59 · 38 v 1-11-51
·-
The native of this birth chart is a Bank employee and now
well placed materially.

Students of KP should look sharp here and I shall discuss

the period of Jupiter how steller wise it does not portray the
present status of the person.

Jupiter period is from 24-3-1988 for 16 years.

Jupiter is in VII duly owning VII & it is in the star of Kethu,

placed in V, V & V II are detriments for one to be in service. But
the fa ct is that the native is in a lucrative Bank service , with the
good material back ground.

Now, look at the sub lord of Jupiter and it is Mars.

116 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Mars is in Ill & no planet in Mars star (Chithrai) Avittam, &
Mrigaserisham. Mars owns VI & XI, so signifies Ill, VI & XI fully.

So the Dasa Lord Juipter is getting the strength of Mars

significatios of Ill , VI & XI. Furth er Mars in the star of Kethu, a
node, who repres ents Venus, a significator of I & XI and so
Jupiter has been rendered powerful to· uphold his material
status, with good service condition as well.

+++
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 117

SUBLORD SPEAKS
New I am discussing the Horoscope of Mr. Prasant Kumar
now at Jangore.

Born on 16-5-19 64 at 11-40 a.m. 1ST at Siwan (Bihar) 26-12

N 84-13 E

Aynamsa 23-20-50

Mercury
Xl1-46-1
9-23-31
IX Slll Venus
Ma13-8-2B
27-46-1 2-3-4 10-25-51
Ju14-45-46
A 10-48-24
X 29-46-1

VIII
27-46-1
XII
2-46-1
Sa10-58-41
·Mom
VII Nirayana Bhava Chart 2-48-28
1-52-19 Balanoo in jup~er
periOd at birth
Oy-7m-17days I
VI
1-52-19
2-46-1
II 27-46-1

Ketll.J
10-48-24
IV Ill
29-46-1 27-46-1
v 1-46-t

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Juipter Venus Juipter
Moon Rahu Saturn Saturn
Mars Mercury Rahu Saturn
Jupiter Venus Kethu Saturn
Mercury Saturn
The native of this birth chart is an IPS Officer & now ASP at
Tanjore selected and Posted to that Post during September
. 1990.
118 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Currently it is the major period of Mercury from 7-1-84 to 7-
1-2001 .

Let us discuss mercury

Mercury is in IX. Placed in the star of Kethu in V.

Both significations of Mercury IX & V tells a bad status for

the person. On the contrary he had good education during this
period and passed the competitive examination also during the
bukthi of Venus.
Venus gets the Xth signification & thro sub lord Jupiter gets
the lvth & Xith signification & so he got the IPS status in this
bukthi.
But how the. Dasa lord had given him the elevation to IPS
cadre, inspite of the fact it signifies steller wise IX & V, both
detriment for a marital progress.
Now, you look into the Sublord of Mercury, it is Saturn. No
planet in the stars of Saturn & it is in VII, owning Vi, VII & VIII. So
thro Sublord Mercury gets the full signification of VI, VII & VIII.
And further the same Saturn is placed in th e star of Rahu in XI.

So the VI & XI thro Sublord had strengthed Mercury so much,

that the native could rise well above in status.

Having passed out LPS examination in Venus bukthi is

explained ·above, he is permanently taken the charge of ASP.
Tanjore from September 1990 during Sun bukthi (27-3-90 to 3-
2-91)

How is Sun placed?

Sun is in X, in its own star duly owning I & II Sun is in the sub
of Jupiter duly placed in the star of Venus in XI, at his young
age of 28 giving him a very lucrative administrative status.

, The querry from the consultant regarding his marriage &

when?
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 119
Currently it is the bukthi of Mars from 3-7-92 to 30-6-93

Let us see it Mars promises the event.

Mars is in the IX th & has no planet in its stars. So it signifies

IX and as it is in the star of Ketu, it signifies V. And further it is in
the sub of Mercury in IX (No planet in its stars) &so signifies IX ·
& Ill as Mercury own Ill. And further Mercury signifies again V
being in the star of Ketu in V.

Hence, these significations does not cannote marital

matters.

Then the bukthi of Rahu from 30-6-93 to 18-1-96.

Rahu is in the XI, placed in the star of its own & so fully
signifies XI steller wise. It is a good augury.

Rahu is in the sub of Saturn in VII & no planet in Saturn stars

& an fully signifies VII & further Saturn is in the star of Rahu in
XI.
So thro Sub, Rahu signifies VII & XI & this tells marriage to
take place during Rahu bukthi. Saturn Anthra is, between 20-3-
94 & 15-8-94, if the same did not come up is Rahu anthra from
30-6-93 to 17-11-93.

Why Saturn Anthra.

Saturn is in VII & no planet in its stars & so fully signfies VII,
& as it is in the star of Rahu XI also steller wise.

As Saturn is in its own sub, it again signifies VII & XI & so

marriage shall come up in the Anthra of Saturn.

Now let me explain to the students how the strength of the

entire horoscope, has been trebled by strenth of the planets
thro its Sublord signification & how weak they look thro stellar
wise comperatively.
120 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Planets Sub lord Stellar Signification
Signification Thro Sublord
Sun Jupiter X, I & II XI&IV
Moon Rahu XII, IX XI
Mars Mercury IX, V IX, Ill, V
Mercury Saturn IX, Ill & V VII, VI, VIII XI
Jupiter Venus XI, IV XI
Venus Juipter XI XI, IV
Saturn Saturn VII, VI, VIII VII, VI, VIII,
&XI XI
Rahu Saturn XI VII, VI, VIII, XI
Ketu Saturn v VII, VI, VIII, XI
Of the planets only Mars has been rendered by weak & the
rest are well connected & signify XI thro Sublord. So, he has
stepped in to a very good administrative rank as young as 25
years.
I take up another Horoscope of a great scholar Dr. V.P.A.
born on 13/14-9-1939 at4.00 a.m. 1ST at Kancheepuram N 12-
50/79.45 E
Ayanamsa 22-59-54
Jlfliter(R) Saturn(R)
12·34·49 7-27-41 X IX
VIII Ke8·19·41 10·33·46 10·33·46
7·33·46 IX 8·36·46
..

VII XII
8·5·46 9-33-46
Nirayana Bhava Chart
Balance in Sun
VI period at birth 18-5-46
9-36-46 1y-10m-12days Me19-34-33
Mars Sn27-12-10
3-48-33 Ve29-27-16

11 1"8-33-46 Moen
v IV
Ral"l.l 4-13-23
10-33-46 10-36-46
8-19·41 117-33-46
 KRISHNAMURTI PAOHOHATI 121

Planet Sublord Planet 1 Sublord

Sun Sun Venus Rahu
Moon Saturn Saturn Rahu
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Rahu Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Mars
The native entered service in L:JSA on 1-10-68 & it was Mercury
bukthi from 8-7-66 to 26-1-69.

Let us see how Mercury got him the lucrative service.

Mercury owns II & XI in Lagna & no planet in Mercury stars.

So Mercury signifies II, XI & I.

Mercury is in the star of Venus in I, owning Ill & X. So Mercury

signifies II II &X also.

Mercury is in the sub of Rahu a full significator of II.

So thro star and sub it promises a good status thro service.

The same service he left by Sept. 87. It was the Moon Bukthi
in Juipter period (26-11-87 to 26-3-89).

Let us discuss Moon.

Moon is in the star of Sun in Lagna owning Lagna & it is in

the sub of Saturn in VIII, placed in the star of Ketu in VIII virtually
on the IX th cusp .

This reveals the end of service & change there by.

He indicates that he and his wife lived in different places,

owning to the spheres of their profession being in different
places. And it is from 1987 upto date.

He was running the major period of Jupiter from July 76 to

July 92.

L~t us discuss Jupiter, Juipter is in VIII owning V & VIII.No

. planet in Jupiter stars and so fully signifies V & VIII.
122 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Jupiter is in the star of Saturn in VIII owning VI & VII and no
planet in VI th and VII and so fully signifies VIII also .' ·.

But Juipter is in the sub of Mars in V and no planet in Mars

stars. So Jupiter does not show any sep_aration and on the
contrary.good love and affection between.them .

But he says that from 1987 they are not able to live together.
Let us discuss how?
It was Sun bukthi from 8-2-87 to 26-11-87 is in lagna in its
own star and so fully signifies Lagna. Sun is in its own sub and
so fully signifies I thro sub 1st negates one to be in family.

Then it was the bukthi of Moon from 26-11 -87 to 26-3-89.

Moon is in Lagna and placed in the star of Sun in Lagna.

Moon is in the sub of Saturn duly signifying VIII, by being placed
in the star of Kethu. VIII gives disturbances in family and
domestic life.
Mars bukthi from 26-3-89 to 2-3-90 Mars is in VI in the star of
Sun in Lagna owning lagna. Mars in the sub of Saturn in VIII,
placed in the star of Kethu in VIII, same as Moon bukthi.

Rahu bukthi from 2-3-90 to 26-7-92. Rahu thro star & sub
signifies it. But as node being in its own star in Thula signifies
fully i.n signification of Venus, who in turn fully sign ifies lagna
and so lagna negates one- to have the plesure of Kutumbham.

Now I take up the horoscope of a girl by name Sow

Maheswari born on 7-7-70 at 1-40 p.m. 1ST at Madras 13-04/
80-17E.

Ayanamsa 23-52-51
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 123
The horoscope is as under :
j

'
' VII
13-8-44 VIII
Xl9-52
Mercury
VI 14-52 21-51 -23
Sa tum 10-52
Su21-22-33
26-17 - 11
Ms29-31-25

v
12-52 X
Raru 11-52
Nirayana Bhava Chart
11-55-47
Balance in kethu
period at birth
Ve0-38-38
5y-10m-7days
IV Mn2-8-4
11-52 Ke11 -55-47
XI 12-52

113-8-44
Ill II ;,u
Jupiter
9-52 10-52 14-57
2-56- 10

Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Jupiter Venus Kethu
Moon Venus Saturn Kethu
Mars Moon Rahu Saturn
Mercury Saturn Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Venus
The parents of the nat1ve came for consultation the beg1nning
months of 1992 and wanted to know when the marriage comes
up for the girl.

As the horoscope of the girl was a traditional type, I asked

Mr. Velayudamurthy who is a KP student under Mr. Mohan who
was also in my room.

They made the Horoscope under Placidiou s system. I

wanted Mr. Murthy to reply the parents.

The. cu rrent bukthi was that of Mercury from 24-5-92 to 24-

3-95. It was January 1992 when I wa s consulted and it was
Saturn bukthi.
124 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Mr. Murthy discussed Saturn. Saturn is in VII owning IV & V.
No planet in Saturn stars and Vth. So Saturn fully signifies VII
& V there is Rahu in the IV Bhavam. Saturn is in the star of
Venus is X owning I & VIII.

Mr. Murthy was tempted to tell that Saturn being VII & V
signifi~ator,marriage could come up. Immediately in the Anthra
of Jupiter, bei ng placed in the star of Mars owning II & VII.

Mohan, his Guru alerted him, how he was proceeding with

pred iction, without looking into the sub lord strength .

They Murthy found that the sub lord of Saturn, Kethu be ing
Xth significator, cannot give a helping hand for bringing o~t the
marriage. And further Kethu represents Sun, duly signifying Ill,
XII & VI detrimental for marital matters. ·

Then he discussed Mercury bukthi from 24-5-92.

Mercury is in IX and no planet in Mercury stars. Mercury owns

IX & XII (Jupiter in XII) So Mercury signifies IX"fully. Further
Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in XII owning Ill & VI No planet in
Ill &VI.

So summing up. Mercury signifies IX, XII, Ill & VI.

XII & VI are completely detriment for bringing about marriage.

Now Murthy was alert and told Mohan that Mercury is in the
sub so Saturn in VII and No planet in Saturn stars. And so the
sub lord Saturn atta ins VII & V significations fully.

Now boldly declared that marriages with take place in the

bukthi of Mercury and Anthra of Mercury and this was conveyed
to the parents of the girl. 'Mercury anthra between 24-5-92 to
18-10-9 2.

Marriage did take place in the above period on 30-8-92.

Last week parents again called on velayudamurthy to know
about the prospects of child bearing duly appreciating the
prediction about marriage date.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 125
Mohan was present here in my room and he took up the
matter and discussed.
It is Mercury bukthi from 24-5-92 to 24-3-95 Mercury thro in
sub lord Saturn signifies VII & V fully (As Saturn is in the VII &
owns V having no planets in its stars}. So child bearing also
can take place in this bukthi of Mercury.
After eleminating process, he choose Rahu anthrax
December ('93 to Mary '94) to be the period for the girl to be in
the family way end child birth in the bukthi of Kethu which begin
on 24-3-95.
Why Kethu bukthi?
Kethu as node, though in X it is on the XI th cusp. Kethu is in
11 -55-4 7 in Leo and XI th cusp 12-52 in Leo, Kethu is in the sub
of Mercury and XI th c usp is in the sub of Mercury. Kethu
represents Sun a significator of XII & VI tells child birth shall be
difficult and Hospitalisation for surgery not ruled out.
Mercury thro its sub lord Saturn fully signifies V.
So Mohan predicted chid birth by March '95 and the parents
were happy.

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126 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUB LORD SP EA KS

1 reproduce the brrth chart of Mrs. Kauser D/o. my friend,

born on 13-6-1960 at 10.00 a.m. IST ·at Madras 13.04/80.1-7

Ayanamsa 24-17-29
Balance in Moon period at birth Yrs 2 months 4 days 20.

Mars Ve27-t6· 23 Mercury

IX t-25 ·57 Xl28·22· 47 22-'j{-57
26·22-47 X SU'l XII
28·22·47 28·52· 12 27-22· 47

Ketll.J
26·43·57 I
VIII 27·2·56
25·22·47
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Vll27·2·56 1125·22-47
Moon AallJ
20-8·57 26· 43·57

\A'ZT·22·47
Saturn(R)
23-3).57
v IV Ill
28·22·47 28-22-47 26-22-47
Jup{A)
9·9·1
L-.---"'--- ·-· -·--- -·~-------- -...&.......------1

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Jupiter
Moon Kethu Saturn Saturn
Mars Venus Rahu Sun
Mercury Saturn Kethu Venus
Jupiter Rahu
The girl got married in Saturn bukthi in Rahu Anthra on 2-2-
92.
Th is I discussed on page 2 of +<P & Astrology November
1992 issue.
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 127
The bukthi of Saturn ended on 3-7-1992 & Mercury bukthi
started to run upto 8-10-94.

Let us discuss Mercury & its signfications.

Mercury is in XI & no planets in its stars and so it signifies XI

fully.

As it owns Ill & XII it gets the signification of Ill & XII also fully.

Mercury is in the star of Jupiter in V & so V also Jupiter owns

VI & IX. As Moon is in VI and Mars in IX. Mercury cannot signify
VI&IX.

Summing up Mercury signifies XI, Ill, V & XII fully. This is

steller significations.

Except XII, the significator does not indicate anything bad

maritally. As per this signification XI, Ill & V nothing was happen
bad martially.

But she is now a Divorced girl since last month (March/April

'93) How?

Look into the sub lord of Mercury. It is Saturn.

Saturn is in V in the star of Venus in X, owning IV & XI. Sun is

in XI & No planet in in IV.

So thro Sub lord Mercury attain the full signification of X & IV

both detriment for marital matters.

The bad matters happened in Venus Anthra 16-12- 92 to 2-

5-93. Venus owns IV & XI. Has planets in XI & no planet in IV.
Venus is in X. There are planets in Venus star.

So look in to its star lord. It is Mars placed in IX. So Venus is

a sole significator of IX. Venus is in the sub of Jupiter in V. owning
VI & IX. Mercury is in Jupiter star, and so Jupiter does not signify
V at all. Jupiter is in the star of Kethu in VIII. So Venus finally
gets Vlllth signification, a detriment for Kutumbham & so
separated from her Husband's Kudumbham during this Anthra
·of Venus.
128 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Now 1take up an interesting birth chart of a girl born on 20-
11-1969 at 12.45 Noon 1ST at Gooty 15.7/77 .41

Ayanamsa 23-25-1

Balance in Mercury period years 12 months 4 days 9. The

birth chart is as under

Sa tum
Moen 10·19-47
20·18·27 Ill 16·39
IV v
14·19 10- 39
II 13·39 Jupiter
18·44·37

Rahu ;
VI
244-5
I 7-52- 15 ..... 6-39
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Mars VII
17-51·11 7-52- 15
XII Kettu
6-39 244-5 .

X 14·39
Venus
XI Me6·40·41 VIII
$1.1) 18·57·59
10·39 13·39
IX 16-39
4-23·25
I
• • •• Pla net Sublord
Sun Saturn .. Venus Moon
Moon Vensus Saturn Saturn
Mars Saturn Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mercury Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Rahu
. This girl was married to a particular boy in Venus penod &
Venus .bukthi, in the 1st week of November '92, in the Anthra of ·
Saturn (May '92 to Dec. '92)

What does Venus signify?

Ve.nus is in the star of Rahu in lagna and it is in the sub of

Moon in II, placed is the star of Mercury in IX owning V & VIII.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 129
The Anthra lord Saturn is in II in the star of Ketu in VII, & as
Saturn is in its own sub, again signifies VII.

So the marriage took place in this Anthra itself and it is stated

or rumoured that the same was celebrated under duress to
cover up the illegal matters of the mother of the girl.

Let us discuss from the Horoscope of the girl if the period

now running has any indications of such a po!ition regarding
mother.

Let me see it Venus portray such matters in this of IV th

cusp, (IV is the lagna for mother of the girl).

In term of IV th cusp Venus is in VI owning I & is placed in

the star of Rahu in X stellar significations does not tell any
sca ndalous matter at all.

Look in to the Sublord of Venus. It is Moon in XI & it is placed

in the star of Mercury owning II & V. This tells some love mat~ers
of the mother of the girl.

It is rumoured that she was involved in such matters with

the son-in-law itself, who was already her nearest relative.

Let us check up if her lagna cusp & Sublord portray such ·

things as incest from the girl's chart (lvth cusp) .

IVth cusp falls in Taurus 14.39 ruled by Jupiter as sub lord.

Jupiter is in the star of Venus in Libra & in the sub of Rahu in
Aquarius of Saturn duly placed in the star of Jupiter in XII,
Aries of Mars .

If lagna cusp is badly connected to Venus, Mars and Saturn

in some way or other such natives are to prove such amourous
love matters with the nearest blood relatives.

So IV th cusp Sublord which stands for mother substantially

such activities of the mother.

As already stated that the mother had illicit connection, with

her son-in-law, then we have to discuss if the VII th cusp that
130 SUBLORO SPEAKS
stands for husband of the girl, has such bad combinations for
such activities as incest.

VII th cusp to be discussed taking the same as lagna of the

boy the husband of the girl.

The sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is in Aries of Mars . Jupiter is

in the star of Venus in Libra . And Jupiter is in the sub of Rahu in
Aquarius of Saturn and placed in the star of Jupiter in Aries of
Mars .

Here also the lagna is polluted by the combination &

involvement of the 3 planets in Venus, Saturn & Mars telling
INCESTUOUS nature of the son-in-law.

Good Luck

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KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 131

SUBLORD SPEAKS
This time I take up the birth chart of a boy fo r discussion
who had died falling in wa ter.

He was bo rn on 28-10-82 at 1.40 p.m. 1ST at Chennai 13.04/

80.17

Ayanam sa 23-35-54.

RahJ
Ill IV v 13-41·9
28 -55-5 28-55·5 25-25·5 VI
21-55-5

II
24-44-C6 VII
Mooo Nirayana Bhava 20·3-11
18-07-55 Chakram
balanoo in Rahu
period
I 2y • 3m - 4days VIII
20-3- 11 24-55-C6

X121·55-5 X 28-55 -5
Mercury
Ke13-41 ·9 Ju23-43·12
XI 27-2-22
Mars Sn10·57-1
25·5-5 IX
3-41-58 Ve9-14-4
28 -55-5
Sa2-42-37.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun · Saturn Venus Jupiter
Moon Moon Saturn Venus
Mars Moon Rahu Mercury
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Venus
Jupiter Saturn
132 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord
I Kethu \Ill Venus
I Mercury \11 11 Mercury
Ill Saturn IX Saturn
w Mars X Sun
v Rahu XI Rahu
VI Saturn XII Saturn

With the above birth chart & working . Mr. Velayudamurthy, a

KP student entered my room when Mohan was also present.
Mr. Murthy came with a testing mind, & duly handling over the
birth chart, posted the question as under I

What should have happened in Venus bukthi, in Jupiter major

period for this boy?

As the query was challenging Mr. Mohan took it from my

hand, and discussed the bu.kthi of Venus in Jupiter period.
J upiter in IX in its own star & so signifies IX, XII & Ill. Jupiter is
in the sub of Saturn owning II & placed in the star of Mars in XI
owning XI. (No planet Saturn star & 2"d house also).

So this period portrends seriousness in the way of accidents

& dealing with life.
Bukth i of Venus from 14-12-1992 to 14-8-1995

Venus is in IX in the star of Rahu , in V in its own star and so

Rahu represents Mercury, a full significator of XI, having been
placed in the star of Mars .in XI, owning XI Bhadhaka for Makara
lagnam . He also assessed the strength of the sub lord of the
Lagna cusp. It is Kethu.
Kethu is in XI in the star of Venus in IX Kethu is in the sub of
Venus, placed in the starof Rahu. who repre sents Mercury a
full significator of Bhadaka athana also.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 133
So he assessed the boy's longevity should be below 32 yrs
(Aipayush) and also added that the boy should have been
involved in an accident and succumbed to it.

Mr. Murthy accepted, with all appreciation of how padhdhati

is so thought provoking when we apply Sublord of strength for
assessment.

He said that the boy dies in water on 2-5-93.

Reverting back let me explain how the boy had died under
accident in water.

One has to look into the VIII th cusp to findout one's way of
death.

Here in this birth chart, the Sublord of the Vlllth cusp is

Mercury.

Mercury is in VIII & no planet in its stars. Mercury signifies 8 11'

& 61h fully.
Mercury is in the star of Mars in XI, owning IV.

But in the ·sub of Jupiter -in IX in its own star & so IX & XII.

So Vll lth cusp sub lord having V III under stellar status & XII
!Jnder Sublord signification tells an accidental death, as here
the combination of IV, V III & XII (IV TRIGON) comes into force.

As the Sublord Jupiter owns Sagittary & Pisces having some

planets in Dhanus & no planet in Pisces. Pisces the Watery
sign acted and the boy died in Water.

Now I like to discuss the birth chart of Vineets Mehta of

Mehsana (N. Gujarat) to substantiate how Sublord has a better
say in Predictive side.

Born on 27-4-65 at 1.58 p.m 1ST at Jodhpur 26.18/73.4

Ayanamsa 23-21-40
134 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus mars
Moon Saturn Saturn Jupiter
Mars Sun Rahu Venus
Mercury Venus Kathu Moon
Jupiter Kethu
Horoscope is as under :

IX 2-4-42 X 4-4 - 42
Mer19·30·9 Ju 7-42- 16 XI
SlJ"l
VIII
13-30·9 Raru 6-4-42
2-4-42
Ve17-17-26 22-27-26

MoCJ'I
22-27-27 XII
Sa 20-54-16 Nirayana Bhava 7-4-42
VIIS-44-4 Chakram
balanoo in Jupiter
period
I 5-44-4
VI 13y- Om - 18days Mars
7-4-42 15-42-6

Kettu
v 22-27-16
Ill II
6-4-42 2-4-42 2-4-42
IV 4-4-42

The native is now running the Major period of Saturn from

May '78 to May '97.
Saturn is in VII & no planet in its star & so it signifies VII & VI
and it is placed in the star of Jupiter placed in X.
So finally it signifies VII, VI, X. This is stellar signification.

Saturn is in the sub of Jupiter again & so signifies IX fully.

So matters of VII, VI & X are controlled by the IXth signification.

For VII, IX acts very well & allows the native to get in to marital
fold & higher educational prospects.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 135
For VI, IX acts not so well & tells breat in service. As VI
regards one's illness & defect in health & being connected to
IX. Here IX th cusp falls in Aries, which stands for head. So the
native has severe head ache too often in Saturn period .

For X , IX tells many a change in preofessional sphere .

This is the assessment regarding Saturn, generally interms

of significations.

Let us discuss some important incidents in this period.

The native passed BE (CIVIL) during March 1987.

It was then Venus bukthi, Saturn period, Venus is in its own

star in IX owning Ill & X.

There are planets in Venus star and X. So finally Venus

signifies IX & II only.

IX & Ill does not tell any success, but only higher education .
But she got thro in Exam.

Now look into Sublord of Venus. It is Mars. Mars in Lagna &

no planetin its star and so, fully signifies I & IV (Feebly). So
Venus gets lagna signifiation & so success in exam.

First service the native entered during December '87. It was

the Venus Bukthi again, Mercury Anthra.

Venus signifies IX fully along with Ill &X feebly.

Being in the sub of Ma~s. lagna and IV signification.

The Anthra lord Mercury signifies II & XI fully alongwith VIII.

Mercury is in the sub of Venus and so signifies IX & Ill & X
feebly. The feebly Xth signification has given the native service.

During Sun bukthi (2-5-88 to 14-4-89) there was a change in

Job to Public sector during January '89.
Sun is a full significator of IX & Ill & X feebly.
 136 SUBLORO SPEAKS
Sun is in th e sub of Venus and so again IX & Ill & X feebly.
So in terms of IX the change over completely to Public sector
in terms of IX th signification.
Got engaged on 5-1 -92. Then it was the bukthi of Rahu and
Anthra of Jupiter, Discuss Rahu.
Rahu is in X in the star of Moon In VII. And Rahu is the sub of
. Venus signifies IX & Ill.
So Rahu should give the native marriage itself in its bukthi
along with betrothal (IX & Ill).
The engagement taken place on 5-10-92 when it was Jupiter
Anthra.
Jupiter is in X the star of Sun and Sun in IX. And Jupiter is in
the sub of Kethu in IV in Mars Rasi and so fully represents Mars
a full significator of IX & Ill. So engagement in Jupiter Anthra. ·
There is a query from the native regarding marriage day.

Then 1discussed Saturn Anthra from 13-10-92 to 26-3-83.

Saturn is in the star of Jupiter in X & in the sub of Jupiter du ly

signifiying IX only. Then Mercury Anthra from 26-3-93 to 21-8-
93.
Mercury is in VIII and so fully signifies VIII, II & XI but thro sub
lord Venus, signifies IX &111 only.
Then ~..ames Kethu anthra from 31-8-93 to 21-10-93. Kethu
sin the star of Mercury and so signifies VIII &II, XI and thro sub
lord Moonsignifies VII feebly and X, V fully.
Marriage should take place in this Anthra preferably in
Sookshama of Moon in lind week of September 1993.
1 take up one more birth chart for discussion, that of Mr.
Ranganathan (Retd.) Railway officer as CPO.
Borr. on 27-11-1929 at 4.30 a.m. 1ST at Bangalore 12.58/
77.37
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 137
Ayanamsa 22-51-31.
Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Moon Venus Mercury
Moon Venus Saturn Rahu
Mars Rahu Rahu Mars
Mercury Moon Kethu Sun
Jupiter Mercury
Mr. Ranganathan retired as Chief personal officer, SRY during
the fag and 1987, after the completion of his 58 yrs of age without
blemish.

VII VIII
VI 14-12-5 13·45·42 IX
15-45-42 Ratu Jup(R) 12-45-42
17-56-6 19-25-49

v X
13-45-42 Nirayana Bhava 12-45-42
Chakram
balance in Moon
period
IV Oy - 9m - 23days XI
12-45-42 13-45-42

Ill 12-45-42
II 13·45·42
Ve24-10-52
XII
Satum Ms 13-11-39 15·45-42
Ke17-56-6
Su11·21·59 moen
6-47-14 114-12-5
Mer11+34 22-15·2

Let us discuss some important incidents.

He passed out his B.E. exam during 1954, in the bukthi of

Mars. in the major period of Rahu.

Discuss Rahu, It is in VII in the star of Venus in Lagna owning

lagna and in the sub of Mars a full significator of II & IV. So Rahu
was a successful period and he had successful education.

Mars is in I no planet in its star and so signifies I. Mars is in

· the star of Satur in II and so signifies I, II & IV. Mars is in the sub
138 SUBLORD SPEAKS
of Rahu a full ~ignificator of Lagna. So he successfully passed
and obtained B.E. degree in this bukthi.

Then the major period of Jupiter started 20-9-1955 for 16

years.
Jupiter is in VIII and there are planets in its star and so it is
not VIII th significator.

Jupiter is in the star of Moon in XII owns X and so signified XII

&X fully.

Jupiter is in the sub of Mercury and so signifies lagna and IX

as there are planets in Mercury stars.

Mercury is in the star of Saturn in II & so II fully.

Jupiter Bukthi is from 20-9-55 to 8-11-57. As Jupiter has lagna
IX & II signification, he got first service during January 1956 and
then leaving this got into service in CPWD by April '56 and
subsequently changed his service over to Aerodrome. Asst.
Engineer, By March 1957 in terms of IX & II signification.

By 8-11-57, Saturn bukthi started, Saturn is in II in the star of

Kethu in Lagna and in the sub of Rahu duly signifying I, II.

In this bukthi he got Railway servie and took over as Asst.

Engineer on 9-12-57 which continued til(his retirement.

He got married on 10.. 1-1963. It was then Kethu bukthi in

Jupiter period.

As already noted, Jupiterthro its sub lord Mercury signifies II

& V, as Mercury is in the star of Satur in II owning V.

Kethu is in Lagna, in the star of Rahu in VII, and so fully

signifies VII and Kethu being in the sub of Sun and so signifies
I & XI, II, V. So in this Kethu bukthi there is a good combination
of II·, V, X & VII required for marriage and so marriage celebrated
in this bukthi.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHOHATI 139
Then he got children, a Son on 6-1-64, daughter on 8-8-65.
It was then running the bukthi of Venus from 2-8-63 to 2-4-66.
Discuss Venus.
Venus is in lagna. owning lagna.
Venus is in the star of Jupiter in VIII , owning Ill & VI.
So no signfication for the birth of children as II, Vor XI, Vor at
least V. Then How?

Now look into the Sublord, It is Mercury, No planet in Mercury

star and is in lagna. So I & IX.

Mercury is in the star of Saturn in II owning V.

So Venus gets I, IX, II & V thro Sublord Mercury, required for
birth of children.
The native was elevated highest status as Chief Personal
officer during 1983, when he was running Moon bukthi from
August '82 to May '84.
Moon is in XII in its own star and so full significator of XII. As
it owns X and no planet therein, signifies X also. So matter of
promotion is there and XII with a change of place.
But promotion did come without change of place. It was a
matter of prestige for Ranganathan to be in Chennai itself and
he contacted me to know if there will be a change of place, as
there in XII.
I told him that he would not be disturbed as Moon is in the
sub of Venus in Lagna, signifiying VI & VII. Lagna and VIII does
not tell change o(environment.
He was promoted and posted in the same place as desired.
He retired from his service as CPO IS .RlY during November
'87 without any blemish what so ever, as in the case of other
officers who held such responsible and lucrative posts.
It was Rahu bukthi in Saturn period.
140 SUBLORD SPEAKS
Rahu is in VII, in the star of Venus in Lagna owning lagna. As
Node Rahu represents Mars in lagna and no planet in Mars
star. So Rahu fully signifies lagna and so prestige not lost.
And it is well confirmed by Rahu being in the sub of Mars
and so angain lagna sign ification as no planet in Mars stars
and further Mars is in the star of Saturn in II owning V.
Lagna V got him retirement, II & I protected his status as a
decent officer.

+ + ·+
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 141

SUBLORD SPEAKS
I have run enough on this subject & I feel the students must
have understood well that sub lord alone finalises the matter
either way the matters shown by the star lord of a planet.

And this also applies to the planet who happens to be the

Sublord of a cusp in the Natel or Horary chart.

Now I take up the Horoscope of Miss. Charulatha, born on

25-10-1969 at 10.20 p.m.IST at Chennai 13.04/80.17.
Ayanamsa 23-25-1

Planet .. Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Jupiter Venus Saturn
Mars Rahu Saturn Mercury
Moon Mercury Rahu Mercury
Me rcury Rahu Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Jupiter

Saurn(R)
X 12-18-29 XII I
13- 52 Mn12-45-11 18-52 17-53-18
XI 16-52

Rat-t.l
II
25-25-53
Nirayana Bhava 13-52
IX 11-52
Chakram
balance in Ketu
period
Ill 11-52
VIII Oy- 3m - 20days
13-52 Ketu
25-25-53

Mars IV 13-52
29-26-19 VI
v 16-52 Ve16-48-53
VII
SU"'
18-52 Me 25-3-1
8-40-59
17-53-18 · Ju 26-25-24
142 SUBLORD SPEAKS
·The native had comeout successful in her BE Exam &
declares as such during April/ May '90 and joined service as
Engineer in a reputed firm in New Delhi on 1-7-1992.

Let us discuss the period how it aids the native to be

successful in graduating herself & get in to lucrative service so
young as now.
She is now running the major period of Sun from 15-2-1990
to 15-2-1996. Sun is in IV & is tenanting the star of Rahu in IX.
Both significations do not promise material prospects. Virtually
IV & IX does not promise any profession at all.

She passed out Be during April I May 1990 and got into
lucreation service 1-7-92 in Sun period itself.

How is it?
Look into the sub lord ofSun.

It is Jupiter & it is placed _in the star of Mars in VII owning V I &
XI (No planet in VI & XI).

So this period has power to give her fine material

advancement in terms of VI & XI & marital happiness also in
t~rms of VII.

Sun bukth i was between 15-2-90 & 3-6-90 & she get BE
degree then in terms of signification IV & IX becoming XI.

On 1-7-92 it was Jupiter bukthi from 3-3-92 to 21-12-92.

Jupiter is in IV in the star of Mars in VII, owning VI & XI & it is

in its own sub & so again VII, VI & XI. It is a fine period to fix her
in a lucreative service in New Delhi.
The native's parents consulted me about her marriage, then
it was Saturn bukthi in Sun major period.

I discussed Saturn.
Saturn in X & no planet in its stars and so fully signfies X &
VIII.
KRISHNAMURTI PAOHOHATI 143
Saturn in the sub of Mercury in IV (No planet in Mercury sta'r)
& so fully signifies IV & I. Mercury is in the star of Mars in VII
owning VI & XI. So there is a combination of XI & VII & it can
bring about marriage & VI tells imped iments.

I fixed the marriage to come up in the anthra of Jupiter is

between 17-10-93 to 3-12-93.

Let us take up the Horoscope of Smt. Devi born on 27-10-52

at 11.23 a.m. at Salem 11 .39/78 .12.

Ayanamsa 23-10 -47

The horoscope is under :

IV 0-34
J~..piter(R) VI VII
24-21-13 26-34 22-24-56
v 29-34

Ill Ketll.l
27-34 24-22-13
Nirayana Bhava
VIII 24-34
Chakram
balanre in Mars
Mooo
24 -42-40
period
11 24-34 6y- 3m - 9days IX 27-34
Aall.l
24-22- 13

XII 26-34 Xl29-34

I 22 -24-56
Mars Ve12-59-13 Slll Sa tum
17-42-2
Mercury 10-34-58 26-43-13
0-6-37 X0-34
--·--·-- -~-- --
Planet . Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Saturn Venus Rahu
Moon Rahu Saturn Jupiter
Mars Mars Rahu Rahu
Mercury Moon Kethu Kethu
Jupiter Mercury
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Smt. Devi came for consultation regarding her matrimonial
life , which she said was so horrible & has a mind now to leave
her husband 's house & live separately. That is her status of
mind now, matrimonially.
I worked out the horoscope & I arrived at the Saturn period
to be from 6-2-1993. I discussed the planet Saturn.
Saturn is in IX owning II & Ill. There are planets in Saturn
stars.
Sun is in the star of Mars in XII owning IV, V & XII (Jupiter in IV
& Mars in XII} So Saturn signifies XII & V.
V is encouraging & XII is a detriment for marital matters.
Further I looked into the Sublord of Saturn . It is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in IV & Mercury is in Jupiter star.

Ju ipter is in the star of Venus in XI owning VI. X, XI (Mercury
& Venus in XI end Sun in X) So Juipter signifies XI & VI fully.
So the major period lord Saturn signifies XI & VI thro sub
lord.
Hence the stellar signification of XII is toned down by XI & at
the same time agravated by VI.
Though the period is _very good materially it is mixed one
martially.
So I told her that she will have pin pricks, but she can stand
it & no trouble to the point of break down and comparitively
better than the period of Jupiter.!

She got satisfied & went away.

Before leaving my room, she narrated her suffering at the
hands of her husband. But no break in the marital life upto,
now.
For the sake of students let us discuss Jupiter and its
significations.
KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 145
Jupiter is in IV (There is Mercury in Jupiter star) so Jupiter is
not a IV th significator.
Jupiter is in the star of Venus in XI , owning VI, X, & XI (Sun is
in X) So Jupiter signifies XI & VI fully. This pla9ed her in a very
good material back ground. But marital life is so horrible. Why?
Now look into the sub lord of Jupiter, the period lord.

Jupiter is in the sub of.Mercury in XI. (Rahu in Mercury star)

So Mercury does not signify XI at all. Mercury is placed in the
star of Jupiter in IV.

So Jupiter fully signifies IV, & IV is a detriment for smooth

married life. Let us have a overall view of the planets
signification.
Steller Planet Signification thro Sub
Signification
I,X Sun XII & V
II, VIII, XII & V Moon XII & V
XI&VI Mars XI&VI
IV Mercury II, VIII, XII & V
XI&V I Jupiter
IX&III Venu XII&V
XII & V Saturn XI&VI
XII & V Rahu XII&V
VII &XI Kethu XII& V
From the above the student shall note that every planet has
detriment signification of either XII or VI or IV. This itself tell, not
a smooth sail in marital life.

Further I take up the Horoscope of Mr. Ramesh Babu born

on 9/10-4-1963 at 3.30 a.m.IST. At Chennai13-64/90-17.
Ayanamsa 23-19-59
146 SUBLORO. SPEAKS

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Mars
Moon Moon Saturn Jupiter
Mars Jupiter Rahu Rahu
Mercury Rahu Kethu Jupiter
Jupiter Kethu

Sn26-<l-6
Mercury
1116-3-46
6-40-1
IV v
Jupiter 16-3-46 12-3-46
11118-3-46
B-2-51

Rah.J
Vmus.
2-6-16
19·38·1
Nirayana Bhava Vl9-3-46
I 10-4·13
Chakram Ms15-12-1
balance in Mars
Satum period
27·2B-~
Oy - 6m • 21 days VII
Xll9-3·46
10-4-13
Keth.J
2-6-16

IX 18·3·~ ·
XI X VIII
MOO'\
12-3·46 16·3·46 16-3·46
5-36-1

Mr. Ramesh Babu is marine engineer and he had successful

education, got in to service and maintains a good financial status
from 1981 onwards.
Let us examine the major period he is running from 1981, It
is the period of Jupiterfrom 1-11-1981 and it is upto 1-11-1987.

Discuss the significations of Jupiter.

Jupiter is in Lagna and own II & XI. There is Rahu in Jupiter
star. Punarpoosam, So Jupiter cannot signify I, II & XI.
Jupiter is in the star of Saturn in XII owning I & XII. As Jupiter
is in Lagna and as Rahu is in Jupiter star, Juipter signify XII
alone.
KRISHNAMURTJ PADHDHATI 147
Hence one is liable to question, how the boy got successful
education in Engineering and got into service as Marine
Engineer and enjoying lucrative service with good emoluments.
Nowlook into the sub lord of Jupiter.
It i5 Kethu .

Kethu is in XI , placed in the star of Sun in II.

So Jupiter thro its sub lord Kethu gets the benefic signification
of II fully XI feebly, along with VII.

Hence the period got him a ll these benefici al matters.

But it was stated by the mother of the boy tpat marriage was
settled and b etrothel done during June ' 91 and broken soon
after.
Then it was Venus bukthi.

Let us discuss how Venus has given him such a state of

affair.

Venus is in lagna and no planet in its stars. So Venus fully

signifies I, IV & IX & V.

Venus is in the star of Rahu in V. So fully signifies I, IV, V & IX.

As the Sub!ord of Venus being Mars, duly signifying X II , having
been placed in the star of Saturn in XII, all these matters of I, IV,
V & IX for bringing about betroth al has be en broken soon after,
in terms or the sub iords signification X II , brings him agonizi ng
situation and fall in Saturn, socially.

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148 SUBLORD SPEAKS

SUBLORD SPEAKS
Now, I take up the Horoscope of Sri Udayavarlu, a Gold
merchant and decent citizen of Chennai.
He was born on 6/7-4-1933 at 3-56 a.m. 1S T at Tirupathi 13-
40/79-20.
Balance in Kethu period at birth : Yrs 3, m 5; days 18.

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Ven us
Moon Rahu Saturn Ve nus
Mars Jupiter Rahu Mercury
Mercury Rahu Kethu Mercury
J upiter Saturn

Venus
19·56-44
11118-9-49
Ill IV v
20-9·48 18·9·48 14-9-48
Sn 13·44-47
Mer2·46·38

As
13·57·31 VI
Ratu 11·9· 48
12· 54-s:> ~irayana Bhava
Chakram
balance in Ketu Mr6-31-10
period at birth Mars(R)
Sa tum
8-6-24
21·29-52 3y- 6m - 18days Ke12· 54· 50
XII
Vll 13·57-3
11 ·9·48 Jl.J)iler(R)
22·2· 32

XI X IX VII I
14·9·48 1 8·9·48 20·9·48 . 18·9·48
.. _......

The native of this Horoscope is rather a man of financial

status and continues to be so even on date.
KRISHNAMURTI PAOHOHATI 149
Some bad incidents had taken place during his mars period
Venus bukthi, which should not have happened for such a good
soul, as I know him personally. It is fate and it is explained here
under.

He was running the major period of Mars from 4-11-1972 to

4-11-1979.

Mars is in VI & no planet in its star & so he fully signifies Ill, VI

&X.
Mars is in the star of Kethu in VI & so again VI. These are
very good matters, what Mars has to give. Mars is in the sub of
Jupiter in VII, in the star of Venus in II, owning IV & IX.

Matters like Ill, VI, X which are regulated by the sub lord under
signification of II, necessarily give high income & roaring
business life.

And it did give.

But the same stellar signification of Ill, VI &X, when regulated

by the sub lords signification of IV & IX, tells some fishy matters
also to happen to his business life and reputation.

IX tells some disturbances and shortage of professionall~fe

and IV some censure like matters, connected to occupation
way of life.

It is to happen in general in Mars period.

Matters went on very well in the bukthi of Mars, Rahu and

Jupiter which run upto 7 -2.. 1975.

Saturn bukthi started by 7-2-1975 & it run upto 16-3-76.

During this bukthi, there was suddenly a Police raid in his

Jewellery shop and h~ was arrested and taken to custody under
suspicious of theft Articles being displayed by him in his show
room.

How it happened in ths bukthi.

,,
 150 S.UBLORO SPEAKS
I have already explained dispute the fact, Mars (Major period
lord) signifying very good house II, he has other disturbing
houses also such as IV & IX. This is over all effect in Mars
Period.
Partie. <:)rly in this bukthi of Saturn, matters have become
very bad.

Why?

Saturn is XII (Sun is in Saturn) in the star of Moon in VI. This

is OK. VI cannot bring him anything serious matter at all.

Look into the sub lord. It is Venus. Venus is in II (there is

Jupiter in its star) and Venus is placed in the star of mercury
owning V & VIII. So Saturn gets V & VII thro sub lord and there is
a serious jolt for him and as Venus in the star of Mercury in
Lagna, saved him in time he was released immediately after.
But there was criminal case between him and Government
and it went on for years.
Finally judgement in Supreme Court was given adversely
during October 1992 & he was Jailed.

Why in 1&92. It was then in his major period of Rahu (from

4-11-1979 to 4-11-1990) Rahu is in its own star in XII & so full
significator of XII, is adverse.
Rahu is in the sub of Mercury, placed in the star of Jupiter in
VII, owning II & XI (Venus Ill) so signifies VII & XI.

So stellar signification of XII, results in terms of VII &VI. XI is

good & VII is adverse & defeat for self.

There is the major period of Rahu with such a signification,

already explained.
The matter of Judgement delivered adversely during October
'92.
·It was then Venus Bukthi (from 22-5-91 to 22-5-94)

,,
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 151
Venus is in II (there are planets in Venus stars) Venus is in
the star of Mercury in I owning V & VIII (No planets in V & VIII).

Venus is in the sub of its own and so again I, V & VIII.

Stellar signification fo V & VIII has afflicted his status as Thro

sub also it signified V & VIII detrimentally.

He was jailed during October '92 and within a short period

he was released on Political reasons. Lagna signification thro
sub wonderfully worked out for this release.

NoW I take up a Horary for discussion as I had to workout for

an intricate querry raised by a leading Doctor of my locality.

At 11-30 a.m. on 3-8-93 the Doctor entered my room and

raised me intricate query duly giving No.196 (1-249)

Ayanamsa 23-45-7

His query was as follows 'Let me know the cause of silence

of my wife'.

I made the horary figure for the sub over time as under.
Planets Sublord Planets Sublord
Sun Mercury Venus Rahu
Moon Rahu Saturn Venus
Mars Rahu Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Venus Kethu Jupiter
Juipter Saturn

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord

I Mars VII Moon
I Venus VIII Venus
Ill Venus IX Mercury
IV
V
Jupiter
Saturn
X
XI
Jupiter
Mercury I
I

VI Mercury XII Venus

I
J
 152 SUBLORD SPEAKS

Venus
Kethu
Ill IV 7-45-2
15-19-53
19-30-6 20-30-6 Vl 13-30-6
v 17-30-6 Me27-58-8

VII
1115-30-6
11-6-40
Saturn(R)
Slll
4·25-53 17-10-8
Nirayana Horary
Chart
Mooo
25-30-8 VIII
I 15-30-6
11-6-40

Mars
Xl17-30-6 0-46-8
XII X
Rahu Jupiter
13-30-6 20-30-6
15-19-53 16-21-8
IX 19-30-6

As the matter queried • pertain to his wife, Vllth cusp should

be taken, as Lagna & discussed.

Let us see what her lagna cusp says, lagna cusp is ruled by
Moon as sub lord. Moon is in VII, in the star of mars in VIII &so
signifies VIII, XI & VI. The same Moon is in the sub of Rahu in X.
in the star of Saturn in I.

So Lagna cusp reveals, that Matter is pertaining to VIII (II

from VII) mainly. So it is purely with in the Kutumbam & thro
Sublord Rahu, it is broadly connected to X (IV from VIII) & lagna
(VII from VII) So it is matter something reactionary one with
one of the Domestic members.
Let us discuss Vlllth from VII to find out the source of Agony
she suffers, in a broader out line VIII th (II nd) cusp Sublord is
Venus. Venus is in the star of Rahu in X (IV) & in the sub of
I
I
Rahu in X (IV) placed in the star of Saturn in I (VII).

I
I
So VII, antagonistic situation formed between her & mother
How?

J
 KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI 153
The Sublord of the VIII th Venus thro stellar status points to
IV & thro sub lord status points to VII, So IV becomes opposition,
IV stands for mother & house hold properties & matters, etc.
Again the silence of wife should be elucidated. For that you
must give more credence to XII th cusp. Here from VII th the XII
this VI th. (XII) VI th cusp sub lord is Mercury.
Mercury is in VI (XII) in the star of Jupiter in VIII (II) so Mercury
points to XII & II Mercury is in the sub of Venus.
Venus is in the star of Rahu in X (IV)
So the agonizing situation arises with the differences ith her
mother (IV)
The Dr. has given the no & no lagna cusp sub lord also
deserves discussion.
Lagna cusp sub lord is Mars.
Mars is in VIII, in the star of Sun in VII.
Mars is in the sub of Rahu placed in the star of Saturn in
Lagna itself.
So the query of Dr. well corroborates the query about his . ·
wife VII & he will have full control of the situation (I)
.(
I told Doctor that his wife is agonizingly silent as a result of
diff~rerices with her mother, perhaps connected to some
Household matters.
The next day he came that he was able to findout with
difficulty the cause of her silence and that well corroborates
·with my finding thro Horary & duly appreciating me, he went
away.

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 SUB LORD
SPEAKS
PART- 3

BY
Late Prof. K.M. SUBRAMANIAM

Edited by
Sothidamamani
K. SUBRAMANIAM
S/o. Sothida Mannan. Jyothish Marthand
(Late) Prof. K.S. KRISHNAMURTI
 Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha

I SUB LORD SPEAKS

l
Thi s time I take up two horoscopes and discuss events to prove
the efficiency ofthe usage of sublord while giving prediction.

First I discuss the horoscope of Sow. Muthulakshmi of Salem,

born on 15.1.1962, at 12-29 Noon at Trichy 10-50/78-44.
Ayanarnsa 23°-1 9°-9'. Balance in Sun period at birth Yrs 5- month 7-
:lays 26. ·

Plannets Sublord Planets Sublord

Stm Jupiter Venus Mars
Moon Moon Saturn Venus
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Kethu

19-1-21
XII 4-8-51 ' Moon II9-23-51 Ill 7-8-51
27-25- 49

IY 2-24-51
XI 1-24-51 Nirayana Bhava Chakra~ Rahu
Balance in Sun period 25-56-41
at Birth
Ke 25-56-41 5 Yrs. 7 Months 26 Days
Ju. 20-23-56
Me 18-27-23 y 1-24-51
Sat 8-2-54
X 2-24-51
Sun 1-20·34
Yen 2&-26-43 Ylll
Mars 23-3-16 Yll9- 1-21 Y14-8-51
9-23-51
IX 7-8-51

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
 It was indicated by the native that she was married on
12-4-1990 and she has no children so far.

Now let us discuss the period now on. It is Rahu from 11-9-84
for 18 yrs. Rahu is in IV and no planet in the stars ofRahu so the Dasa
lord signifies IV fully, a detriment house for children.

Rahu is in the star of Mercury in X owning Ill & VI (No planet

in ill & VI) so Rahu fully signifies Xill & VI. These promise here good
material standard.

As Rahu has no planet in its stars, it fully represents Moon in

lagna and Moon is a full significator ofV, as it is placed in the star ofSun
owning V and no planet in V.

So reverting to the query, I can say that birth ofa child is not ruled
out in the period ofRahu.

Now I discuss each bukthi.

Now it is in the bukthi of Mercury from 23 -8-92 to 11-3-1995.

Mercury is in X in the star ofMoon in I owning IV Mercury in the

sub of its own and so again I & IV No chance for child bearing in this
bukthi.

Then Kethu bukthi from 13-3-1995 to 29-3-1996 Kethu is in

the star ofMars in IX owning I & Vlli Kethu is in the sub ofRahu in IV.

But as Rahu has no planets in its star, it fully represents Moon, a

fu ll significator ofV (Moon is in the star of Sun in IX owning V, no
planet in V)

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* Sub- Lord Speaks
 So I told the native that there is every possibility for child bearing
in this bukthi.

They told me that the native got married on 12-4- 1990. Let us
discuss the period ofthe time ofmarriage.

It was Saturn bukthi from 17-10-1989to 23-8-92.

Discuss Saturn.

Saturn is in X owning X & XI. No planet in its stars. There are

no planets in XI. So Saturn signifies X and XI fully.

Saturn is in the star ofSWl in IX owning V and so IX & V also.

XI, IX & V are good houses for bringing about marriage.

Further, Saturn is in the sub ofVenus owning II & Vll and Venus
placed in the star of Sun owning V (No planet in V). So Saturn with
matter ofXI, IX & V could bring about the marriage as it signified II &
VII fully & V fully.

Next I take up the Horoscope ofDr.D.C. Poddar ofCalcutta for

discussion ofvarious incidents in his life.

He was born on 5-9-1954 at 7-45 P.M. I.S.T at Calcutta

22-34/88-24.

Ayanamsa 23 -12-27.

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
*
 Planets Sub Lord Planets Sub Lord
SW1 Rahu Venus SW1
Moon Venus Saturn Saturn
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Moon
Jupiter SW1

Ket 18-25-11
ASC. II0-48 IV 21-48
I28-t4-33 lll27-48 Jupieter
29-20-5

XII1948 Nirayana Bhava Vl748

Chakram
Balance in Mere.
period Sun
XI 17-48 Yrs.ll- 10 M-17 Days 19-15-59
V11948

X 21-48 IX 27-48 Saturn Mercury

Rahu Moo n 12- 17-33 2-13-33
18-25-11 20-43-52 Venus V ll 28-14-33
Marsll -19-18 VIII0-48 5-27-35

ThenativeofthisbirthchartisinsetViceinAIR/CCCasanARTIST
(MU SIC)

Let us discuss ifhis Vth cusp sub lord is connected to Vth house
matters and House ofArts (Leo).

Here the sub lord is Mercury.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Mercury owns IV & VII & placed in VI in the star of Sun in V in
Leo. This is matter and well connected to house ofArtistic native.

The same Mercury is in the sub ofJupiter owning X & no planet

in X. So V is connected to house ofProfession thro sub.

Now took in to the Xth cusp & its sublord Jupiter.

Jupiter is in its own star in IV & so fully signifies IV I & X. This

is matter. Jupiter is in the sub of Sun. Sun in Leo & V & placed in the
star ofVenus in LIBRA (Another Artistic house), owning ll & III .

This tells his profession, in Artistic line Vocal Music II & III
communication.

I told my desire that I would be delineatoring his Horoscope, he

had been gracious enough to send me some incidents in his life, and I
am discussing these here under.

He writes that he was bitten by a Dog, in 1957 & lost hi s speach

for a temporary period. lt was then the period of Mercury from his
birth to July 1966., & it was the bukthi ofMoon, then fromAug'56 t<?
Jan 58.

Moon is in Scorpio (bestial sign) symbolised by beasts (Animals

) & no planet in Moon Star & so Moon signifies VIII fully (House of
Hurts) Scorpio isa Hurtfull sign.

Moon is in the star ofMercury in VI (House of sickness ) & iri

the sub ofVenus, placed in the star ofMars in IX owning VIII.

The planet Moon from a Bestial sign ( Scorpio) had detrimental

connection to VI & VIII has resulted in a bite from a Dog.

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
*
 As the sublord Venus signifies Vlll, talking powers deminished
& began to stammering as Vlllth thro sub affected talking capac ity & it
lasted for two years.

By Jan 1959, it was Rahu bukthi Rahu is in IX in the star ofVenus

& Venus in Vll owning IT & no planet in II. So matter wise II (Talking
capacity).

· As Rahu being in its own sub, again signifies II, hence he got
back good talking capacity without stammermg.

As Node Rahu represents Jupiter in IV in its own star, in Rahu

bukthi itselfhe was put in to school for eduction (Rahu being in its own
sub).
He was running the Major period ofKetu from July'66 to July
1973 . He quotes some bad incidents during this period which I like not
to confide such incidents.

Any way I shall discuss Ketu.

Ketu is in the star of Rahu in IX & in the sub of Moon, a full

significator ofVIll & VI. Students can know what matters can happen
with the significator ofVill, VI & XII.

As star lord ofKetu, begin Rahu, represented Jupiter signifying I

& X and the sublord Moon sigriified VI also, so he was saved from .
going bad to worse positions.

Then he started the major period ofVenus from July' 73 for 20

years.

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* Sub - Lord Speaks
 Venus is in VII, in the star ofMars in IX owning IX & Vill & so
matter is IX fully & Vill feebly.

Venus is in the sub of Sun, placed in the star ofVenus in VII

owning II & III.

So in the Venus period, the matters ofIX & VIII will happen with
a successful note.

Let us discuss bukthi wise, what had happened.

Venus bukthi from 22-7-1973 to 22-11-1976.

As discussed above the matterofiX (Higher education) becomes

II fully.

He passed B.Com in 1974 & in 1975 took admission in LLB &

MA(Drama)

Next comes the bukthl of Sun from 22- 11-1976 to 22-11-1977.

Sun in the star of Venus in VII owning II & ill & in the sub of
Rahu in IX placed in the star of Venus in VII owning II & Ill. He
passed MA (DRAMA) in 1977.

It was Moon bukthi from 22.11.1977 to 22.7.1979.

Moon in star ofMercwy in VI, owning IV & VIT & in the sub of
Venus in VII owning IT & ill.

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 He got registration for LLB & passed LLB. Mars bukthi from
22.7.1979 to 22.9.80.

Mars is in IX in the star ofKetu in III & in the sub ofSaturn, a full
significa tor 1 lfVll XI & XII plus IX.

It W<C> a period of suffering, by changingjobs, in terms of IX XII

signification thro Sub. Not happ y.

;-rext bukthi is that ofRahu from 22-9-80 to 22-9-83. Rahu is in

IX in the star ofVenus in Vll owning II & III. in the sub of its own & so
again II fully & lli feebly.

Kindly note Rahu is in Dhanus in its own sub & so fully represents
Jupiter & so IV I & X also comes in thro sub.

He got in to Govt. Service (clerical LD) on 4-3-1981 thro

employment exchange.

On 1-10-1982 he had purchased a plot for construction ofhouse

in West Bengal.

As discussed above Rahu thro sub signifies II feebly a house

stands for possession & further Rahu represents Jupiter in IV in its own
star & so Purchase of Plot, corresponding to Venus anthra from
25-8-1982 to 25-2-1983.
Venus is in the star ofMars in IX in the sub of Sun signifYing VII,
II fully. Here IX purchase of property as it is III, a vrayakaraka for IV
from VII. Thro sub it is II, possessing the matter.

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* Sub- Lord Speaks
 Marriage had taken place on 29-6-1983, when it was Rahu
bukthi & Moon anthra.

· Rahu being in its own sub, signifies VII & II fully.

Moon is in the star of Mercury owning VII & in the sub ofVenus
in VII owning II & being placed in the star of Mars, IX also. So Moon
with the matter of VII, gets VII & II thro Venus & IX also a benefic
house ofmarital matters.

So marriage had taken place in Rahu bukthi & Moon anthra.

On 8-5-1986 he received his PHD degree when i! was Jupiter

bukthi from 22-9-83 to 22-5-86.

Jupiter is in IV in its own star and owns I & X & so fully signifies
IV, I, & X. (No planet in I &X).

Jupiter in the sub ofSun, a full significator ofVII & II.

Students may ask to know the signification ofiX for higher studies
and research.

I have already discussed the signi!J.cation ofDasa lord Venus who

is a full signification IX.
That IXth matter only is derived thro the sub lord strength of
·Jupiter signifying II fully. II will always help to successfully possess the
matter ofIX.

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
*
 He passed the Bachelor Degree in LIB in 1987, when it was
Saturn bukthi.

Saturn has no planet in its stars in VII & so signifies VII, XI fully.

And Saturn is in the star of Rahu in IX. (IX and II stands for
library)
Saturn is in the sub ofits own & so signifies XI fully. So he got
degree ofB.LIB in this bukthi.

On 23rd March 1988, occupied New home when it was Saturn

bukthi & Saturn thro Sub, signifies IX being placed in the star ofRahu,
as Node represents Jupiter in IV in its own star.

In 1990, his wife entered in to service in the University of

....rivandunn (Research Institute).

It was Mercury bukthi (26-7-89 to 22-5-1992) & Mercury is in

VI in the star of Sun in V & in the sub ofJupiter in IV. In its own star.
So thro sub Mercury signifies X from VII ( VII stands for wife). So
wife got employed well in University in terms ofJupiter.

ln the same bukthi he joined AIR, SILCHAR as Programme

executive. In terms oflagna~ Mercury is in the sub ofJupiter in IV and
so fully signifies X, & I also.

Received Akashavani Award as the best Drama producer on

5-3-93 when it was kethu bukthi from 22-5-92 to 22-7-93.

Kethu is in III in the star ofRahu in IX. Dhanus & so Rahu gets
IV, I & X signification & Ketu is in the sub ofMoon, placed in the star
ofMERCURY in VI.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
Sri Santhakumar was born at 4-33 a.m. 1ST on Thursday the
13th February 1941 at Bangalore 12.58/77,3 7.

Ayanamasa 23-1-34.

Balance in Venus period at birth: 19 Years, 10 months, 20 days.

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Mercury Venus Jupiter
Moon Venus Satwn Sun
Mars Stm Rahu Moon
Mercury Moon Kethu Stm
Jupiter Sun

IV7-33-49
Kethu
Jupiter
10-51-33
15-47-7
v 6-33-49 VI2-33-49
III 3-33-49 VII 28-26-8
Sat 15-56-79

Mercury
18-42-32
Sun 0-46-4
II 0-33-49
Nirayana Bbava
Cbakram
Balance in Venus period
19 Yrs-lOM- 20 Days VIII
Venus 0-33-49
14-33-46 Moon
13-24-26
I 28-26-8
Mars XI 6-33-49 X 7-33-49 IX 3-33-47
3-32-49 Rabu
jxu 2-33-49 10-51-33

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 The native ofthis birth chart is a big chemical engineer, now worldng
in UAE, well placed, drawing a: sizeable amoWlt monthly and runs a life
with a good material backgroWld.

Let us discuss the current period which gives him such a material
status.

It is now the major period ofRa.hu from 3-1-84 to 2-1-2002.

HowisRahu?

Rahu is in IX, in the star ofMoon in VIII,IX& VIII does not tell
a person to enjoy good and paying service, and rich backgroWld.

On the contrary he has a very lucrative service in UAE with high

salary and with high Household and vehicular comforts.

Star lord status of Rahu being VIII tells ( Nirdhanam) bad

monetory matters and 9 tells no stable service.

Now look in to the sub lord Ra.hu.

It is Moon again and Moon is in the star ofVenus in lagna bhava

owning V&X having no planets in both bhaves.

The signification ofX had given him a decent & enviable status in
service. I had given him, a good status thro material backgroWld and V
children.

1feel this is a striking example to tell the efficacy ofthe sublord &
its impact in changing the entire picture as shown by stellar strength of
Dasalord.

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 Now I take up the birth chart ofMr.Raj Kr. Jaiswal ofPatna city,
born at 2.15 PM 1ST on 22-12-1960 at Patna city 25°37'/85°.13'.
Ayanamsa 23-17-29.

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Rahu Venus Venus
Moon Mercury .Saturn . Mercury ·
Mars Moon RahU · Moon
Mercury Satun Kethu Venus
Jupiter Rahu.
,.

Ill 16-42
I 24-58-31
XII 15-42 II 22·42 Mars (R)
Ascendant
.. 18-38-8

Ke 16-33-25
XI 10·42 Nirayana Bhava IV 11-42
1-47-31 Chakram
Balance in Mars period
at Birth
Venus · 2 Yrs. 6 M- 23 Days . v 10-42
20-SI-2
Rahu
X 11-42
16-33-25

Sat 25-1 1-4

Jupiter Mercury VII VI 15-42
18-31-42 29-1-25 24-58 -3 I
IX 16-42 VIII 22-42
Sun 7- 14-7

Mr. Jaiswal is a business magnet in Patna city& he is now running

the major period of Jupiter from 15-6-81 for 16 years.

He states that he is doing well with his business life from the
beginning ofJupiter period & Mercury and Kethu bukthi, he had done
very well. But left out Saturn bukthi.

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
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 Let us discuss Jupiter.

Jupiter is in IX, owning IX & XII No planet in Jupiter star of

Punmpoosam, VJSakam & Poorattathi and in 12th Bhavam and so Jupiter
fully signifies IX& XII fully. ·

Jupiter is in the star ofVenus in X owning II & VU{ No planets in

both) so summing up Jupiter signifies IX,XII,X,II & VII under stellar
status.

Sublord ofJupiter will turn the matter ofiX XII X II & Vll to his
benefit or otherWise, interim ofsublords signification. It is the saying of
our Guruji Sri KSK.

Jupiter is in the sub ofRahu in V There are planets in the stars of

Rahu. So Rahu does signify V. On the other hand, Rahu is in the star of
Verius ~X, owning II & VII. So Jupiter thro its sublord Rahu signifies
X, II &·vm. So in terms of X & II, the entire period shall be very
progressive professionally & monitorily in his business life VII.

Jupiter bukthi is from 15-6-81 to 3-8-83. As discussed Jupiter

bukthi should have given him good progress professionally as stated by
him

Next Saturn bukthi fro~ 3-8-83 to 15-2-86. Saturn is in the star

ofVenus in X owning il & VII & placed in IX without any planet in its
star. So Saturn under stellar strength signifies X II VII & IX also.

Stellar wise good matters promised. What is the sub lord strength.
It is in Mercury su~l , ·
/.. .. .,
Mer~~~ . .'1 Vili. owning III & VI. There is a planet in Ill.

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 So thro sub lord signifies VIII & VI only. So it is not wholly
good and mixed only.

Hence while stating he left out making reference to Saturn bukthi

and emphasised about Mercury & Kethu bukthito be good.

Mercury bukthi is fonn 15-2-86 to 21-5-88.

He says this bukthi was very good & done business very well.

Mercury in Vill & no planet in its star & so full signifies Vill &
VI. Apart from that Mercury is in its own star in Vill. So finally Vlli &
VI fully under stellar position. VIII (indebtedness, shortfall in finance &
VI, free flow of money'& general success~)

Mercury in the sub of Saturn & so signifies IX fully ( X & XI

feebly) & also X II & VII. These signification ofX. II & VII must
have given him high business progress, as stated by him. ·

Next kethu bukthi also has given him good business progress.
Ketu is between 21-5-88 & 27-4-88.

Ketu is in XI in the star ofRahu in Vis rather bad, as Ketu does

not retain Xlth signification, as Soo is tenenting Kethu star.

But Kethu is in the sub ofVenus, placed in the star ofMoon in X.

So the 1Oth signification thro sub had given fine professional

success, as stated by him.

He further stated that Venus bukthi is totally adversefor him lind

line ofbusiness life and SWI bukthi was bad. But Moon bukthi done
-well.

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. Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
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 Let us discuss these planets.

Venus bukthi is from 27-4-88 to 27-12-91. Venus is in X and

these are planets in Venus star. Venus is in the star of Moon in X&.
owns IV. It~ good. But Venus in the sub ofits own & so again signifies
X & IV X is good, but IV is adverse for professional life.

So his original business did not suffer, but the lind line ofbusiness
had a failure in tenn of IV.

Sun bukthi from27-12-91 to 15-10-92.

SWI is in Vill (No planet in Sun star) & so fully signifies VIII &
V. Sun is in the star ofKetu in XI.

But it is in the sub ofRahu & so signifies II VII & X.

Hence he was financially bad, owning the 2nd line ofbusiness.

Ofcourse his original one continues to flourish.

He says, Moon bukthi had done well & still my 2nd business is
not OK.

Moon bukthi isfrom 15-9-92 to 15-2-94.

Moon is in X in the star ofMars in III owning I & signifies III &
I Moon is in the sub of Mercury and so signifies VID & VI fully.

Sub - Lord Speaks 16

 Now we shall discuss what his VIIIth cusp & Vlth cusp say.

VIII cusp sub lord is Moon signifying I & mthro star and VIII &
VI thro its sub lord.

Vlth cusp sub lord is Saturn signify in IX & XII VII thro star and
thro sublord Mercury VIII & VI.

So these two houses have mixed n:suits and whatever planet signify
VII & VI thro sub will give mixed results only.

He writes, " I am interested mainly to know how will my next

bukthi ofMars & Rahu will be".
Marks bukthi from 15-2-94 to 21 -1-95.

Mars is in III in the star ofRahu in V & in the sub ofMoon. So

signifies II & I. Hence Mars bukthi shall give high professional success
and profit thro prOduction side thro his factory the 2nd line ofbusiness.

Rahu bukthi from 2 i-1-95 to 15-1-97. ·

Rahu is in V in the star ofVenus in X & so signifies II Vll & X

Rahu in the sub ofMoon and so signifies ill & I fully.

Hence Rahu will give him tremendous success in his business and
his business life, in all his lines and will make a mark ill his business life.

I take up one more birth chart for discussion.

Krishnamurthi Padhdhati 17
 Mr. Bhagavathy was born 1.1.1950 at 5-10 a.m IST at
Trrunnelvelly 8-44/77-44.

Ayanamsa 23-9-6

Balance in Sun period at birth 0 years 10 months 3_days.

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Stm Moon Venus Mars
Moon Venus Saturn Kethu
Mars Venus Rahu Kethu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Rahu

v 1°0'8" VI 000'8"
Rahu Moon VIII
18°56'57" 8°7'50" 26°0~8"
XII 26°40'35

IX 28°0'28'
IV 29"0'8" Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Balance Sun period
Ill 26'~'8" 0 Yrs. 10 Months 3Days
Venua
2)048'37 Satrun (R)
Ju 13"21'43" 26°16'54"
M~rcury X 29°0'8"
6'1 6'S9"

11 2~ ' 8 " Mars

Sun I 26°40'35" XI 100 ' 8" 9°3'37"
16°51'4" XII 0°0' 8" Kethu
18°56'57"

The native of this birth chart was running the major period of
Rahu from 4-11-1967 to 4-11-198 5.

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 It was Rahu bukthi, from 4-1 1-67 to 16-3-1970. In this bukthi
he was a student ofCTI. Guindy and passed in Ist in Tamilnadu and he
waS appointed in 1969 in Ashok Leyland, Madras.

Let us discuss how Rahu bukthi could give him good & useful
education and at the same time passed in highest rank in Tamil Nadu
and subsequently entered service in a reputed organisation on a
pennanent basis.

Rahu inN & no planet in Rahu star and so fully si_grtifies IY. It is
matter telling education.

Rahu is in the star ofMercury in 11, so signifies IT. This is a good

matter as money.

These matters of IV & II , should be seen thro sub lord if they

prove to be successful in passing out the exam & gets financial status.
Rahu is in the sub of Ketu in X No planet in Ketu stars & so fully
signifies X Ketu in the star ofMoon in VI 8:.. so VI also.

So the matters of IV & IT turn to be very successful & so he

passed with credit in term of VI & X thro sub lord.

This bukthi is up to July 70. During the beginning ofl969 he got

into service in Ashok Leyland in term ofVI & X signification thro
sub.

He used to tellthat he got children one dming Tamil montb.Margali

or Dec. of 1983, & another Panguni month of 1985.

When I worked out the bukthi period Dec'83 falls between

16-4-19 83 to ·16-1 0-84 which happen to be Moon bukthl in Rahu
dasa.

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 Let us see if Moon has eonnection with child birth.

Moon is in VI, in the star of Sun in Lagna owning X. He is a full

significator ofLagna & feeble one for X. So I looked into the sub lord
of Moon. it is Venus.

Venus is IT, placed in the star of Mars in X owning (No planet in

V).

So there was birth ofa girl child in this bukthi.

The other one born in Panguni of 1985 This period falls between
16-10-84 & 4-11-85 when it is noted to be Mars bukthi in Rahu period.

Let us discuss Mars.

Mars is in X, owning I Xll & V. There are planets in mars stars.

So Mars does not signify I XII & VI at au.
Mars is in the star of Sun in Lagna owning X. So mars fully
signifies lagnaonly.

So I again looked in to the sublord ofMars. It is Venus.

Venus is in IT, in the star ofMars owning V & so a child in Mars

bukthi again female.

Students can see how sublord tells more clearly regarding finality
in the fructification ofmatter.

With pranams to our Guruji Sri KSK.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
Before I commence my Article. I like to reproduce our Guruji
Sri.KSK's sayings about the sublord & it is taken from his book
Krishnamurthi Padhdhathi Vol II & it is on page 7, as under:-

"Further a planet in the sub an evil planet, indicates loss, difficulty

or failure whereas the same planet, in the same star, but in the sub of
benefic, promises success, gain & pleasure."

'The lord oftheci>nstellation may indicate the matters of7th house.

The planet in the sub ofmalefic causes enmity where as that in the sub
o.fa benefic, brings in Harmony & happiness. Also the planet in the sub
of an evil one threatens loss in litigation where as that in the sub of
benefic indicates victory even though the constellation told densites
litigation."

" Ifa planet indicates business, the stars governed by this planet
show business and the planet in the beneficial sub promises profit.
whereas that in the sub ofan evil one threatens loss".

"The lord ofthe constellation may show any one walk oflife to
the native. It is the sub which decides whether that area is advantages
or not and there by indicates whether the planet occupying these it will
offer desirable results or adverse ones".

The students ofPadhdhathi are desired to read andre- read the

above lines to assimilate the same way well.

Now I take up the birth chart ofMr. Rao for discussion.

Krishnamurthi Padhdhati 21
 He was born at 10.20 a.m. on 28.10.1962 at Chennai 13.04/
80.17.

Ayanamsa23°19'9"

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Stm Saturn Venus Saturn
Moon Rahu Saturn Mars
Mars Rahu · Rahu Stm
Mercury Rahu Kethu Moon
Jupiter Jupiter

Vl-27 VII
IV2-27
Vl27-27 23-41-15

Rahu
ID29-27 10-47-7
Jupiter Nirayana Bhava Mars
9-29-51 Chakram 14-51-54
Balance in Rahu period Vlll25-27
16Yrs. 7 Months 7
1125-27 Days
~at 11-43-20
Ke 10-47-7 IX29-27

Xll27-27 Sun 11-0-26

Venus(R)3- Moon7-42-6 Mercury
123-41-15
~56 X2-27 24-26-14
Xll-27

The native had been involved into accidents on two occasions

during the major period ofJupiter from June 79 to June 95.

Let us discuss Jupiter.

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 It is in the star ofRahu in VII & Jupiter in its own sub & so it
signifies VII thro Rahu.

Rahu as Node fully r~resents Moon & so signifies VIII also, as

VID cusp falls in Cancer.

Hence, Jupiter in general is connected to VIII, & so accidents to

happen.

He Was involved in an accidenton6...2-1990. Then it was Jupiter

period, sun bukthi (17-12-89 to 5-10-90)

··:stin is in X, in the star of Rahu in VII & is tpe sub of Saturn

p!aced in the star ofMoon owning Villth cusp & no pl~et in Villth.

So thro Saturn sub is connected to Vffith & hence the accident.

On 6-2-1990 ·it was theAnthra ofMars ( 25-1-90 to 12-2-90).

How Mars is connected to accident.

Mars is in the star ofSaturn in I & in the sub ofRahu. Here Mars
has no planet in its star & so Fully signifies IV & XII are indicators of
Accident. As Mars in the sub ofRahu, as node represents moon, he
acquired the 8th house matters and hence the accident in MarsAnthra.
Nodes coming in to positive treatment should be in a different way.
,/·
I
He was involved in cmmar accident
' .
on 26-8-1992.

't r •

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 Then it was the bukthi ofMars (5-2-92 to 11-1-93).

Mars is in VII in the star of Saturn in Lagna & it is in the sub of

Rahu. As discussed above Mars signifies 4 and 12 also.

Rahu is in the house ofMoon & so signifies Vill.

Hence the accident.

Now I take up another birth chart ofMr.D.Subramaniam, born

on 16/17-11-54 at 2.25 a.m at Bombay 18.58/72.59
Ayanamsa 23-12-27
Planets Sublord Planets Sublord
Sun Mars Venus Venus
Moon Rahu Saturn Jupiter
Mars Rahu Rahu Venus
. Mercury Saturn Kethu Kethu
Jupiter Mercury

Ketu
VIII28°28' IX 29°28' X 29<128' 14"35'36"
XI 29~8'

Jupiter
6°43'33"
VII . Moon
29'114'50" Nirayana Bhava . 24°24'18"
Xll ·29"28'
Chakram
Balance. in Mercury period
7Yrs.l Months 18 Days
Vl29"28' 129°14'50"
Mars
24-34-9
Ill 29°28'
v 29"28' Venus \Rl
Rahu
IV 29°28' 28"14' I' n~s·
Sun 0°45'53" Mercur9
W35'56" 11'44°4 ..
Sat 20°17 '42"

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 The native got married on 12.5.1986. Then he was running the
major period ofVenus (Jan 69 to Jan 89) bukthi ofMercwy (Jan 85 to
Nov 87 & in the Anthra of Moon ( 10.3.86 to 6.5 .86)

Venus the Dasa lord is in the lind house in the star ofJupiter in XI
owning V & VIII ( No planet in VIII). So fully signifies under stellar
strength. VIII & XI. Venus being in its own sub again VIII & XI.

So in the bukthi ofa planet signifying VII thro sub shall give hin
marriage, as XI & VIII support marriage to come up.

Marriage took place in the bukthi ofMercwy (Jan. 85 to Nov.87

on 12-5-1986.)

• Mercury is in 11 (There is Moon in its star). This is in the star of

Rahu in rv. The stellar signification does not support marriage to come
up at all. But Mercury is in the sub of Saturn in II, owning VII duly
signifying XI. So marriage came up in this bukthi ofMercury. It was
MoonAnthra when actually marriage took place.

Moon is in XI & no planet in Moon's star, Moon signifies XJ

fully.

Moon is in the star of Mercury in II, owning II & XI. Moon in .

Rahu sub. signifies II.

Another horoscope ofMr.Devadoss born on 27/28-3-1960 at

3.24 a.m 1ST at Chenglepet 12.42/80.1 is detailed below :-

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 Ayanamsa 23-17-29

Planets Sublord Planets Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Jupiter
Moon Venus Saturn Mercucy
..
Mars Kethu Rahu
Mercury Mars Kethu Mars
Jupiter Saturn

Sun 13°56'24'
Moon III 2°52'40 IV2°52'40'' VI
21°3'38" V28°52'40"
25°52'40''
Ketu 0°49'52'
112<)052'40"
Ve21°18'6" VII
Mer 19°25'3" 24~6'12"
Mars 2°35'31" Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
!Balance in Mer. periocl
llYrs. 4Months VIII
124~5'12" 2~52'40"
23Days

XJI25"52'40"
Sa24°23' 10" XI 28°52'40" IX Rahu
Ju 9°29' 10" X2°52'40" 2°52'40" 0049'52"
-

ThenativeofthisbirthchartisaGazettedofficerinCentralSeiVices.

He is currently running the major period ofVenus from Aug. 78

toAug98.

Venus is in the star ofJupiter in XI, owning XII (no planet in XII)
so Venus is a full significator ofXI & XII Venus is in the sub ofJupiter
again & Jupiter is in the star ofkethu in II. So thro sub lord Jupiter gets
the benefic signification ofll & hence he is in a good material status.

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 At the same time as the star lord ofJupiter, kethu being a node,
represents Jupiter again & so XI & XII also fully.

Here XI is good, but XII quite adversely and as XII VIII & IV
constitute the IV Trigon tellihg about accidents, enimical plots and SOITO\\<.

Signification ofll & XI gives him good material standard but XII
gives him sorrow & accidents, oontinuously all thro this period.

I am coming to the point now.

He was travelling in ajeep on official work, unfortunately, serious

accident occured during 1986 & his back bone seriously affected,
rendered him walking with a stick supporting him & with difficulty and
this is standing in the way he is getting married.

It was the bukthi ofRahu when the accident occured.

Let us discuss how Rahu is connected to that tmdergoing incident.

Rahu is in vm bhavam.

Rahu is in the star of Sun in II and owns VIII cusp & so II &
Vlll. So tmder stellar strength, Rahu signified Vill & II fully.

Rahu is in the sub of its own in VIII. The impact of the VIII
bhavam will be more than II bhavam & so again VIII & II. As sub
indicates Vill,Accident had taken place & seriousness in terms ofstellar
signification ofVIll, with the result ofhis back bone attacked & walking
is impaired.

Till date marriage for him had not come in spite ofefforts taken
by his parents.

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*
 Let us discuss the Vllth cusp. The sub lord is Rahu. Rahu is a
full significator of II & Vlll & Rahu being in its own sub, again II &
vm.

As Node Rahu represents Mercury owns VI & signifies VIII.

So there is serious impediments in the way ofsetting his marriage.

Current period ofVenus, as discussed above, signified II & XI

and it shall give him marriage:

When Marriage is the querry?

Now it is saturn bukthi upto 21-8-94. Saturn is in the star of

Venus in lagna, owning NV & IX & is in the sub of Mercury duly
signifying VIII & VI also, will not come up in this bukthi.

Then Mercury bukthi from 21-8-94 to 21-6-97.

Mercury signifies VI & Vlll & being in the sub ofMars signifies
I III X XI (Sat & Jupin XI) No chance in Mercury bukthi.

Then Ketu bukthi from 21-6-97 to 21.8.98.

Kethu is a full significator ofll & thro its Rasi lord again II.

Being in the sub ofMars, signifies I ill X & XI, he may get married
in Ketu bukthi i.e., by Jtme 97 only.

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 Let me discuss one more birth chart of Mr. Raju born on
25/26-5-1971 at 5-23 a.m 1ST at Chennai 13.04/80.17

Ayanamsa 23-26-41

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Moon Venus Sun
Moon Saturn Saturn Saturn
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Moon kethu Rahu
Jupiter Kethu

I 1-33 I 5-0-19
Me 16-42-59 Sat.3-35- 17
ll2-33
Sun 10-40·12
Ven us Ill27-23
~oon 29-57-11
15-35-58

IX26-33
Ke 24-50-20
Ni rayana Bhava
IV 25-33
Chak.ram
Balance in Mars period
X25-33 at Birth
Ra 24-50-20 3 Y rs. 6 Months 9 Days V26-33
Mars
17-8-11

IX 27-33
Jupiter(R)
VIII VI 1-33
7-48-21
2-33 VI5-0-19

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 He is now rwining the major period ofJupiter from 5-12-92 for
16years.

As an unique matter I am discussing here how Jupiter saved him

from a disaster.

He is in Border Security he had to rush to Calcutta under duty on

31-12-92.

All set and the plane he had to travel, was certified well to take
off& all crew including him emplaned.

Just seconds.before, his officer wanted him for some secret urgent
work in the security & was asked to get down & take the next plane.

As ordered, he got down & got the matters from his officer &
waited for the next plane to Calcutta. In the meantime.

An urgent message received by the officer that the plane, from

which thi s bOy was asked to get down & take up another one, crashed
in to the sea, after few minutes it took off.

Please note how miraculously he escaped death.

Let us discuss how Jupiter is connected to death houses and escape

also shown. Jupiter is in Vll & no planet in Jupiter star & so fully signified
VII.

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 Jupiter own IXth cusp also & so a Bhadaka for Taurus lagna

Jupiter is in the star ofSaturn in XII.

VII IX & Xll normally serious death inflicting houses.

This is the stellar strength ofJupiter.

Then how he escaped death.

Jupiteris the sub ofKetu in ill & no planet in Ketu stars Aswini,
Makam & Moolam & so fully signifies ill; a house that protects a man's
life & gives long longevity (By God's grace).

Good luck.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
I had reproduced our Guruji's sayings in my previous Article in
December 93 issue ofKP & Astrology. I feel the students must have
read and assimilated the same as the essence ofKP is there.

Let me now take up Horary for the sake ofKP Students to establish
how sublord miraculously reveals.the matter queried.

Mr. Mohan had dealt with this matter fully.

On 8-9-93, Mr. Natarajan, a business magnet fromAdyar had

been to me for consultation, and Mohan was with me then.

Mr. Natrajan posed a question as under:-

"Something bad, that should not occur had happened to me on

7-9-93. Tellmeaboutthat"

No.213 (l-249)wasgiven byhimforthis.

Horary chart was made at 1-15 Noon on 8-9-93 at Chennai

13-04/80-17, by Mohan and it is as under :-

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord

I Rahu VII Rahu
II Mars VIII Rahu
III Venus IX Venus
IV Rahu X Rahu
v Jupiter XI Jupiter
VI Mercury XII Mercury
l ~

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 Moonlt 06'10'
IV 13°13'21"
n 12°13'21" Ill 15 ' 13~1 " Kethu v 9°13 ' 21 "
13°25'53"

I 6°40" Vl6°13'21 "

Satum(R) Venus
1°47' 15" 20051 '8"
Nirayana
Horary Chart
Vll(i040'
X ll6° 13 ' 21 "
Ayanamsa 23-45-7
Sun
21 °55'37''

Rahu Mercury
Xl9°13 '2 1" 1 3~5'53" IX 15°13'2 1" VIII0°48'7'"
12°13'21"
X 13°13 '2 1" Ju 22°50'53"
M 23°46'29"

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Venus
Moon Moon Saturn Mercury
Mars Mars Rahu Rahu
Mercury Rahu Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Sun

It was discussed as follows :-

1. Lagna cusp sub lord is Rahu

Rahu is in X and no planet in Rahu stars and so signifies X fully.

So your status not affected and Rahu in the star ofSaturn in x:n and so
signifies XII seriously.

K rishna.murthi P~cihcih~ti 33
 Rahu is in own sub and so fully signifies Xll and it is alanning and
it portands, some serious loss and environmental status is injolt.

Rahu as node fully represents Mars in Vlli duly placed in its own
star. This suggests a serious loss that cannot be retrieved.

2. The querist had used the wo rd Bad, So we should look in to

the vrn cusp also.

The sub lord ofVIII cusp is Rahu.

Rahu is in the Xth and no planet in Rahu stars and so signifies X

fully. lbis tells athe vm house matter what had happened cannot shake
his general status and name.

Vlllth cusp also tells your money to be taken away by some

body and owned; It cannot be found out.

Rahu is in the star ofSaturn in XII and so XII also a Dupe (Saturn)
had taken. Your money (XII being VI form Vll) by a person ofthieving
(Vll) mentality. Saturn stands for this appropriation in accounting.

So I am emphatic that a vile person. has duped some sizeable

amount under accounting, Rahu represents Mars in VIII in its own star
in Kanya (Accounting).

3. XII cusp also needs probing, as he uttered that something that

should not occur. It tells untoward thing to happen.

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 The sub lord will detail the matter. Sublord is Mercury and it is in
Vll in the star ofSun in VII, owning Vllth cusp.

Being in the sub ofRahu duly signifying XII, by being placed in

the star of Saturn in XII. Here Mercury and Saturn are interconnected
and so result forgery and falsifying ofaccoWlts comes in.

4. Vllth cusp sub lord being Rahu (Having no planet in its stars)
signifies X fully and being placed in the star ofSaturn, signifies XII fully.
Rahu being in it own sub, again signifies xn.

XII is VI for VII & VII stands for the culprit, So he is left scot
free.

With th~ matters Mohan told Mr. Natarajan that there is a fishy
matter happened, connected to AccoWlting and you must have pardoned
that particular person.

Yes, he said. Not accountant, but my pay clerk said to the tune
ofthousands, money missing in his pay box. But I pardoned him though
I have my own suspicions for his character.

I take up another one for discussion. It is the birth ch8rt of Mr.

Rah born on 11.8.62 at 6-55 p.m. 1ST at Bombay 18-55/72-54.

Ayanarnsa 23-19-9.

K rishn:tmnrthi P.::.tihtih.::tti 35
 Planet ~ublord Planet Sublord
Sun Rahu Venus Venus
Moon Saturn Saturn Jupiter
Mars Saturn Rahu Jupiter
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Jupiter
Jupiter Venus

IV2-41
V2841
III 3-41 VI 23-41
Mars
29-33-13

1128-41 Ral4-54-ll
Jupiter Nirayana Bhava VII22-7-51
16-5346 Chakram Sun25-3-14
Balance in Mercury
122-7-51
period
1 Y -1 M -8 Days Mer8-2-13
Ke 14-54-11
Saturn
VIII2841
13-56-37

XII 28-41 Moon 29-5-2 Venus

XI284l IX3-41
X2-41 9-45-38

Mr. M. Raj is aconsultantofMr. NadarofPerambur ( Mr.Mohan's

deciple) and he was consulted regarding his marriage.

Mr. Nadar made out the above horoscope and predicted the
marriage would take place during December 1993 and it is coming
true.

We shall discuss how it took place in terms ofperiods.

Snh - T.nrrl SN>.::tkc: 36

 The boy is currently rurming the major period of Sun from
17-9-1 990 for 6 years.

The marriage, as predicted by Nadar, it is fixed to be celebrated

on 3-12-1 993 and while preparing this Article the invitation card is
received.

How is Sun? Sun is in the star of Mercury in Vll and so signifies '
VII fully. (There are planets in VI).

Sun is in the sub ofR.ahu in Cancer 14-54-11 in Vlth bhava and

represents Vll also and placed in the star of Saturn inXll and owning ll
and no planet in II brings marriage.

Marriage is taking place in (3-12-93) Saturn bukthi 23-7-93 to

5-7-94.

Discuss Saturn.

Saturn is inXll. (Rahu is in Saturn star) So does not signify Xll.

Saturn is in the star ofMoon in XI, owning Vll so fully signifies

Xl&VII .

Saturn is in the sub of Jupiter in I is the star ofRahu as node

represents Vllth. Venus Anthra works out to be from 25-11-93 to
22-1-94 duly covering the marriage date.(3- 12-93).

Venus is inthe star of Sun in VII and an Venus being in its own
sub, again signifies vn fully.

So Marriage has taken place in this anthra only on 3-1 2-93 .

With Pranams to out Late Guruji Sri KSK.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
Mr. Gopi a consultant of mine approched me with a query as
under on 18-12-93.

Query : I am getting phone calls more often is that the girl. I am

in league with?

No. given 113 (1-249)

Horary map was drawn at 4-15 P.M. on 18-12-93 at Chennai

13-04/80- 17 Ayanamsa 23°45'7"

Kethu
vn ll-6-40 VITI 11-4-39 8-3-37 X 10-44-39
IXll-42-40

VI 10-44-39
Moon
5-2-29 XI 10-44-39
Satum2-3-4 ~orary chart
Nirayana
No.113
v 10-44-39 Xlll0-44-39

Ven.25-44-53
IV 10-44-39 Mc:r.24-37-25 Jupiter
Mars 5-3-1 III 11-42-40 13-45-34
II 11 -40-32 16-40
S un 2-45-49 Rahu 8-3-37

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 It is as under :-

Cusp Sr1blord Cusp Sublord

I :tv'!ars vn Moon
II Saturn VIII Meremy
III Moon IX Mars
IV Saturn X Saturn
v Moon XI Stm
VI Saturn XII Saturn

Planet Sub lord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus .Rahu
Moon Stu1 Saturn Kethu
mars Mars Rahu K.ethu
Mercmy Mars Kethu Venus
Jupiter Mercmy

Before answering his query, we shall discuss what the lagna

cusp tells.

The sub lord is Mars & is in lll.

Mars is in the star ofKethu in VIII. So signifies VIII.

Mars is in the sUb of its own in ill & so again Vlll.

So mystic phone calls.

And it is better to look in to XII the cusp.

XII th falls secret matters.

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 The sub lord is Saturn & it is in Vth & placed in the star of
Mars in ill. And further Saturn is in the sub ofKethu, placed in the
star ofSun III. owns Xllth bhavam having no planet in it.

So thro star & sub saturn signifies III & III. So XII which
stands for the secret matters, signifies ill fully thro star and sub lord.

Hence it is fmal, the person phoning up is a girl as telephone

operator even receptionist. When lagna stand for the querist, the
Vllth is about the person whom he quried about. So it portrays the
person so well and who the person is.

The sub lord ofthe VIIth cusp is Moon. Moon is in V. No

planet in Moon stars and so fully signifies V&XI.

Moon is in the star ofMars in ill & so ill also fully.

Moon is in the sub of Sun, in ill placed in the star ofKethu in

Vll & as node represents Venus in II (No planet in Venus star) & so
III fully & IX also along with II by representation.

As Sun the sublord ofMoon (owning the sub position of VII

cusp) is placed in the star ofkethu in Taurus, being feminine & signifies
ill fully, .it is a female connected to communications.

As the sub lord of the 7th cusp Moon also rules the Vth cusp .
as sublord; Love is involved here.

Summing up the consultant Gopi was told categorically that

the person who calls him on phone is a female and must be a
Receptionist and also love is involved.

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* Sub- Lord Speaks
 He went away, & on 27th December he' came & was glad to
confirm that the prediction is cent percent correct and it is only a
receptionist phoned to him & they are in closer tie.

This Horary is dealt with entirely by Mr.Mohan, my friend and

a state ofart in K.P.theory.

I take up this birth chart of Mr. Bhaskaran born at 1-58 mid

night on 28/29-8-64 at Chennai 13-04/80-17 Ayanatnsa
23-20-50
Planet Sub lord Planet Sub/ord
Sm Mercury Venus Kethu
Moon Satrun Saturn Rahu
Mars Mercury Rahu Sm
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Mars
Jupiter Juptier

RahuS-25-3
XI 14-29-34 Jup2-18-44 I 15-55-20
X I 1-29-34 Moon XII Mars 25-44-25
22-14-58 16-29-34 Venus 26-2246

XI
10-29-34 II
Saturn(R) Nirayana Bhava
Chakram 11-2-34
8-1-3
Balance in Venus
Ill 10-29-34
period at Birth
VID Sunl2-40-46
6 Yrs.7 Months 15 Days Mer(R)
11-29-34
20-33-14
VII
15-55-20
Kethu
Vll6-29-34 v 14-2-34 IV
5-25-3 11-29-34

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*
 I am happy to tell that Mr. Bhaskaran a K.P. Student &
approched me for consultation about his Mars period from April '87
toApril'94.

He wanted to know why Mars though placed in lagna& owned

VI & XI & signified X & XI having being placed in the star Jupiter in
XI owning X, he was below average materially.

Students may note that Mars cannot signify VI & XI and Lagna
Rahu is in its star, VI & XI as Kethu is in VI & Moon Jupiter in XI.

But it can well signify X & XI having been placed in Jupiter

star.

I told him that it is stellar signification. This tells you must have
good and roaring professional income (X) & all round happiness.

But nothing is there, except an average income and without

any major trouble.

I have drawn him to the sub lord theory I asked him to look in
to the sublord to Mars.

He said the sublord is Mercury.

Mercury is in ill, placed in the star ofVenus in Lagna

Lagna will give you general health and some status in society.
He accepted the same.

But material dullness and very nonnal professional income, you

are required to look into the ownership ofVenus, I told him.

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* Sub - Lord Speaks
 This Vth and no planet in V. So Venus is a full signifcator ofV.

Vis not good as far as professional. life and income, is concerned.

He caught the point and accepted the efficacy ofthe sub lord
in:finalishing the planetary signifcation and effects, during these periods.

He desired to know ifRahu period at leaSt give him professional

life and it starts shortly by April94 and it is for 18 years.

I asked him to find out the signification.

Rahu is in XII, (Saturn is in Rahu star) and so Rahu does not

signifyXIl

Rahu is in the star ofMars in Lagna owning VI & XI. So Rahu

signifies lagna fully and VI & XI feebly.

These are stellar signification. They are OK.

Let us look in to the sublord and what signifies and tells.

Rahu is in the sub of Sun in ID (Jupiter is in its star) and so it

does not signify m.

Sun is in the stars ofKetu in VI and so VI fully.

So I told him that his 1agna, XI & VI are to give him in terms of
VI. '·
So you will have heavy income and good financial status.
Ofcourse some sickly periods also.

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
*
 Sununing up very prospective life during Rahu rn.ajor period.

He understood the importance of sublord while making

prediction and went away.
i

Let me discuss another birth chart ofDr. Raghunath Singha of

Calcutta, hom at 3-00 a.m on 21-101959 at Calcutta 22-34i88-24
Ayanamsa 23-16-38.

Planet Sub lord Planet Sublord

Sun Venus Venus Rahu
Moon Kethu Saturn Jupiter
Mars Moon Rahu Venus
Mercury Mercury Ketu Venus
Jupiter Venus

VID26-5 Moon
Kethu IX26-5 19-58-18 XI28-5
9-15-41 X27-5

VII27-3-9 Nirayana Bhava XU 28-5

Chakram
Balance in Moon period
at Birth Venus
V128-5 2 Yrs. 9 Months 6 Days 19-1-41
·I 27-3-9
lll26-5
V28-5 IV 27-5 Mer.24-47-39 Rahu
Saturn Jupiter Mars 6-23-7 9-15-41
9-38-13 Sun 3-28-7 ll26-5
8-50-57

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* Sub- Lord Speaks
 Dr. Singha is a M.Sc., ph.D. in Chemistry. Let us discuss this
at the on set. IVth cusp tells one's educational way.

Here the sublord is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in III a negative house for education. As Mercury is

in Jupiter star, Jupi ter does not signify III at all.

Jupiter is in the star ofSaturn in IV and so successful education

life.

Let us discuss Venus.

Venus, as above, is inN in its own star and owns Vth cusp
and so fully signifies IV & V.

Venus is in the sub of Mercury in VI, duly owning VI & VII &
IX (No planet in Mercury stars).

Mercury is in the star ofRahu in Vlll.

So Venus signifies only badly connected houses ofiV VIII

which I have discussed now.

If the period is connected to the Houses constituting the Nth

Trigon one will be badly undone, seriousl y affected in health and as
Vth house also connected, Brain faculties seriously affected and with
such position there will be delay and decrepitude.

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~shnarnurthiPadhdhati
*
 As Venus signifies IV, the native shall suffer hospitalization ana
by being in the institution, with enclosures, whose library is fully
cUrtailed . (IV cusp sublord Jupiterthro star signifies XII fully and the
sub lord Rahu VIII & II & VI).

Here IV connected to VIII & XTI is bad.

The boy will be getting Rahu bukthi from 01-10-94 and is for
3 years.

Rahu is in VIII in the star ofKethu in Rahu is in the sub of its

own and so sigrufied II also.

Here the re is a sutle matter to discuss lind cusp sublord is

Mercury and there is planet in its stars. So Mercury is in VI and
owns VI VII & IX.

As it is in the sub ofRahu, signifies again, along with VII.

So, lind cusp is well connected to Maraka & badhaka house

and Rahu shall bring about demise ofthe boy in the Rahu ~thra itself
around October/ November '94.

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* Sub - Lord Speaks
 I SUB LORD SPEAKS I
Present Health Hazard how long? is the Query ofmy consultant
Sow Jayamma. I took No.178 (1-249) from her & made the
Horruychartat 10-40 a.m. on 12.1.94at Chennai 13°-04'/800-17'

Ayanamsa 23.45 .7

Cusp Sub lord

I Moon
v Mercury
VI Kethu
VII Venus
XI MercU!Y_

Ketu
JV24-08-32 V24-08-32 6-44-1 vn
VI 20-8-32 16-13-20

lll2l-8-32
Sat. 4-21-23 Nirayana Horary Chart VIll
Balance in Sun period 17-8-32
at the moment
1117-08-32 Yrs.4, OMonths 13Days
Mercury
03-12-38 IX
Moon 21-08-32
1- 1-41
Sun 28-0-1 XII20-08-32 XI 24-08-32
Ven.26-50-14 Rahu Jupiter X
jMars 2S-S3-4 24-8-32
6-44-1 17-35-36
I 16-13-20

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
*
 Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Moon Venus Stm
Moon Rahu Saturn Venus
Mars Satum Rahu Mercury
Mercury Saturn Kethu Mercury
~ter Sun

To question here regarding the nature ofher health problem.

she was away by the time, I completed the working.

Now it is a hazard for me to pitch upon the nature oftrouble.

I began to discuss lagna cusp, to find out the general strength

ofthe perso~ to stand the'trouble.

The sub lord is Moon

Moon is in Lagna bhava itselfand no planet in Moon stars. So

.it fully signifies I & VIII. I tells here good stamina & VIII tells
trouble.

Moon is in the sub ofRahu and so signifies II & ill.

So no serious consequences and she can come round.

What is the nature ofdisease?

Vlth cusp tells the same. The sub lord is Kethu.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
*
 Kethu is in V & no planet in Kethu·stars and so fully signifies V.
It is a good sign. But as node Kethu stands for Venue and hence VI
&~also.

So there is.some disease and it is under control.

Thenwhatisthedisease?Itisadifficult}X>inttofindout. Mohan
began to discuss now.

Vlth cusp sub lord Kethu is in Taurus and no planet in kethu

stars and so Taurus is the region, hence neck.

Kethu incidently stationed in the sub ofMercwy in lagna bhava

and no planets in its stars. This tells relief. But Mercury stand for
Nervous and owns mithuna and .Kanya

Mithuna stands for shoulders and hands and .Kanya for Hip.

Mohan said it should be a matter of nervous pain in her neck.

shoulders and hip as well. .

I sent for her and told her the position and said it will be alright
by 13-2-94, with the advent ofJupiter bukthi is Sun period.

She.accepted and said that Doctor had diagonised as Spondilitis

and by the time I was preparing this articles i.e. by 7-2-94 she is
almost alright

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Krishnamurthi Padhdhati
*
 I am taking up another horoscope of Mr.S. born on
26-1-1920 at 7-58 a.m. 1ST at Poonamallee ( Chennai) 13.04/
80.17.

Ayanamsa 22-43-59

Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord

Sun Rahu Venus S\Bl
Moon Venus Saturn Mars
Mars S\Bl Rahu Venus
Mercury Saturn Kethu Moon
Jupiter Venus

Fort 1-2-36
Moon m 11-44 IV 10-44
10.0.11
V6-44
Kethu28-18
ll8-44

Asc. VI 3-44
I 03-27-47 Nirayana Bbava Jup (R)
Chakram 21-28
~alaoce in Saturn period
Sun 12-6 at birth VII
Mer.4-51 9Yrs.·5Months 26Days 03-27-47
XII 3-44 Sat(R) 17-55

Rahu28-18 Vlii
)(]6-44 X 10-44 IXll-44
Venus3-9 8-44
Mars4-59

The elder brother ofthe native ofbiith chart passed away on

31.3-94, 11-15a.m

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Sub - Lord Sneaks
 . I have chosen to discuss the matter intenns of this horoscope
for thebenefit the students ofKP.

The deceased is the elder brother to elder ofthe native.

So XI to XIth cusp should be the centre ofthe discussion.

That is IXth house meets the point

Does this birth chart portray the demi of such a brother, is the
prime factor terms ofiXth cusp.

In terms ofiXth bhava (elder to elder) the IXth cusp falls in

Libra 11 °-44'.

Major period lord is Mars and its peri-od is from July 89 to July
96.

Let us see ifMars has killing power in terms ofthe IXth cusp
and the relative represented by it.

Mars is in VIII in its own star owning III & X. These are
planets in ill & XI Mars is a full significator ofVIII & XII and feeble
significator ofll & VII.

Mars is in the sub of Sun in XII i.e owning VII i.e XI.

For libra chara rasi XIth is a bhadhai full killer.

KrishnRmurthi Padhdhati 51
 So the Dasa lord had attained the powers ofMaraka to the
relative.

As already told the relative passed away on 31-3-94 when it

was the bukthi ofKethu from 19-1-94 to 16-6-94.

Let us discuss ifKethu has the killing powers.

Kethu is representing Mars and so acquired powers as

discussed above.

Kethu is in the star of Sun in IV from IX owning XI and so

attains Bhadaka status.

It is in the sub ofMoon owner ofX in 1Oth house denotes "

Last stride ofa duly signifYing XI, a full bhadaka Moon is in the star
Saturn in VII i.e. XI from IX.

So Kethu can bring about the demise ofthe relative.

It was Venus Anthra from 27-1-94 to -2-94~

The death occurred in thisAnthra only.

· Venus is in X owning IX & IV i.e. II, I & VII.

Venus is in the star ofKethu in III i.e. a maraka house.

Kethu as node stands for Mars in VIII owning II & X in XII,

II & VIII so bad marakas.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Venus is in the sub of Sun in XII owning i.e. IV & XI,XI a
bhadakasthana for Libra)

So demise in this anthra.

As there is a combination ofiV, VII & also. (IV trigon) the

relative died, duly involved in a serious road accident.

Another birth chart ofMr. V. Ramasamy Trichy ( Makalikudi)

is taken up for discuss Born at 8-53 p.m. 1ST on 20-9-57 at 10°-
50'/78°-46'

Ayanamsa 23°-14'-58"

XII Ketu
16-57-28 19-32-18
1119-57-28 m17-57-28
121-12-43

IV12-57-28
XI 12-57-23 Moon
Nirayana Bhava
19-31-7
Cbakram
Balance in Mercury
period at birth
v 12-57-28
X 12-57-28 Mercury
13Yrs. 4Months 19Days 18-7-51

vm 19-57-28 Vll21-12-43 Sun4-8-48

IX 17-57-28 Saturn Rahu 19-32-18 Mars 4-28-22
15-40-57 Ven14-14-5 1 Ju 15-40-51
VI 16-57-28

Krishnamurthi Padhdhati 53
 Sub lord Planet Suhlord
Saturn Venus Mercury
Venus Saturn Jupiter
Saturn Rahu Mars
Rahu Ketu Rahu
Saturn

Cusp Sub lord Cusp Sub lord

I Jupiter VII Jupiter
II Kethu VIII Venus
III Sm IX Mars
IV Rahu X Rahu
v Mercury XI Mercury
VI Saturn XII Mercury
I
I shall discuss various events in his life and point out how the
sub lord had a sway over the events fiuitification.

He entered into service on 27-7-1979 and he was then running

Venus major period and the same bukthi (9-2-78 to 9-6-81) Let us
see how Venus is connected to service.

Venus is in VI, but Ketu and Mercury are tenenting its star, so
Venus is a not a Vlth significator.

Venus is in the star or Rahu in VI. It is ~ence a VI significator

and it is good.

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* Sub - Lord Speaks
 Even then Venus should signify VI or X or XI or n thro sub to
give him service and at the same time not detrimental house to X
(i.e)V or IX.

Here Venus is in the sub ofMercwy.

Mercwy is in V but Moon is in Mercury stars and so Mercury

cannot signifY V and on the contrary Mercwy byvirtueofits placement
in the star ofVenus in VI gets the VIth and 2nd signification because
there is no planet in 2nd bhavam owned by Venus, and so he got
service in Venus bukthi itself, by the strength ofsublord signification
on 27-7-79 in Venus bukthi.

On 4-6-84 he was promised to a highest post and it was Mars.

bukthi (9-2-84 to 9-4-85).

Let us discuss how Mars has signification for promotional

chances.

Mars is in V (No planet in Mars star) & he is a detrimental .

significator ofVth bhava for elevation.

Further Mars own lagna and Vffi and so he gets I & Vffi
signification. vm is bad for monetary benefits.

Mars is in the star of Sun in V owning V and so again Vth

signification. This is stellar strength by Mars, quite detrimental for
elevation

Then ~ow the promotion in Mars bukthi?

Krisbnamtirthi Padhdhati * ..' 55

 Look in to the sub lord of Mars.

It is Saturn and Saturn is in Vll in its own star and owns X &
XI. ( No planets in X & XI) and so thro sublord Saturn. Mars
attains the fruitful signification ofX & XI and so he was promoted in
Mars bukthi, despite the detrimental signification ofV under stellar
strength.

He got married on 7-9-89 . It was the bukthi ofJupiter ( 9-4-

88 to 9-12-90)

Jupiter is in V and owns IX & XII and no planet in Jupiter star

and so fully signifies V, IX & Xll. Jupiter is in the star ofMoon in lV
owning IV and so in a detriment signification for marriage to come
up.

But Jupiter is in the sub of Saturn and Saturn is in VII and

owning X & XL (No planets in X & XI and Saturn in its own star
' '
and fully signifies the fruitful signification pfVII & XII for marriage.

Got a child on 18-7-90 in Jupiter bukthi itself(9-4-88 to 9-

12-90)

Jupiter is in V and owns IX & Xll having no planet in its stars,

signifies V & XII fully. Being in the star ofmore signifies IV and in the
sub ofSaturn, get fruitful signification ofXI and so IV connected to
XI, he entered the newly construction home in this bukthi.

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 As discussed above, Jupiter in V, and no planet in Jupiter star
and so fully signifies V and being in the sub ofSaturn signifies XI. So
child birth in this bukthi itself

He built a new home and grahapravesam on 14-9-88 in Jupiter

bukti.

He purchased TVS 50 moped, on 20-9-93.

Then it was the bukti of Saturn (9-1 2-90 to 9-2-94)

Let us see how Saturn is connected the IV th house.

Saturn is in VII in its own star and X & XI and no planet in

Saturn stars and Saturn fully signifies VII & X & XI. The stellar
signification and no where connected to IV for purchase ofvehicle.

Now look into its sub lord it is Jupiter & Jupiter is in V owning
a IX also but planet in the star of Moon in IV owning IV. Saturn
gets contact with IVth signification and so purchase ofVehicle in
Saturn but 4&9 combination for purchase ofsome thing.

When Mr. Ramasamy visited me duringJan'94 I told him that

there is a fortune ofhis getting elevated to higher status in service,
soon after he enters in Mercury bukthi (9-2-94 to 9- I 2-96).

How it is promised?

Krishnamurthi Padhdhati 57
*
 Mercury owns III & VI and there are planets in VI and in
Mercury star also, and so Mercury cannot signifY both m& VI useful
for elevation in service. .

Further Mercury is in V also, but in the star ofVenus in VI

owning I l & VII. There is saturn in VII, no planet in II. So thro
stellar Mercury signifies II & VI. It is good Let us see if sub lord
decides the same to be fruitful.

Mercury is in the sub ofRahu in VI in its own star and so fully

signifies VI, and so Mercury signifies ofii & VI have been well fortified
by its sublord signification of VI and so he is elevated to class I post
and he got news that his name fmds a place in the list of successful
candidates on 10-2-94 and the same he intimated me on 14-2-94.

While I was compiling this Article, Mr. Nadar (Mohan' disciple)

was with me along with Mohan.

Mr. Nadar was critical with me for not giving proper clarification
for the marriage not coming up in Sun and Mars bukthi (during 9-6-
81 to 9-6-82) and 9-2-84 to 9-4-85 respectively.

His contention is that Sun in V and being in the star ofSun in V

owning V, signifies V fully and firmly being in the sub ofSaturn in VII
in its own star signifies VII & XI fully.

And Mars in V (no planet in Mars star) so fully sig:Ufies V and

being in the star ofSun inV owning V, fully signifies V fully and finally
being in the sub ofSaturn in Vll in its own star signifies VII & XI fully.

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 With these significations ofVll & XI fully 1hro sub With a basis
ofV thro stellar status. Why the marriage had not come up either in
Sun bukthi or Mars bukthi?

It is his contention. Ye it is a moot point for discussion and this

will certainly clarify the question well.

Mr. Mohan had taken up the issue.

At the outset he draws the attention ofKP students to the Article

under Caption "Cuspal sublord and their impact on Dasa effect"
published in Astrology andAthrishta in 1981. There it has clearly
clarified such matter.

Coming to this querry the cuspal sublord of Vth cusp is

discUssed.

It is Mercury. Mercury is in V and there are planets in its star

and so it cannot signify V and it is in the star ofVenus in VI owning
II.(Saturn is in VII) So Mercury signifies VI & ll only.

Mercury is in the sub ofRahu in VI in its own.star and so fully

signifies VI.
/
Now take up to discuss the sublord ofiVth cusp. The sub
lord is Rahu and so signifies VI. And Rahu is the in sub ofMars,
being placed in the star of Sun in V signifies V fully.

Finally, V cusp is more connected to VI only and IV cusp is

connected to V fully.

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 Hence Sun and Mars through sub signified Vll & XI thro sub,
are fruitful to give the matters ofiV only, and on the contrary Jupiter
being placed in the star of Moon in IV owning IV gets the happy
signification for marital matters ofV as IVth cusp sublord is well
connected to V thro its sub,

. Hence marriage is only in Jupiter bukthi.

Yet another horoscope I have taken up for ddiscussion, 1:¥t of

Mr. Mohanrangan born on 11-12-64 at 5-30 a.m 1ST at N~idupet
14°-09' /79°-54.

Ayanamsa 23°-20' 50"

Horoscope is as under :

Vl16-39 Vllll2-37-IO
v 16-.39 Jupiter(R) Rahu VIIlll-39
24-18-10 29-49-10

IV 14-39 .
IX 12-39
Saturn Nirayana Bhava Chart
6-18-10 Balance in Rahu
period at birth
11 Yrs. 10 M 11 Days Xl4-39
Ill Mars
12-39 23- 10-10

Kethu
II 11-39 29-40-10
Venus
Merc.(R) Sun25-39-10 26-22-10 XI 16-39
ll-14-10 I 21-37-10 XII 16-39

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 Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Rahu Venus Kethu
Moon Saturn Saturn Moon
Mars Saturn Rahu Saturn
Mercury Saturn Kethu Saturn
Jupiter Mercury

The father of the boy consulted regarding hi s marriage and

was predicted that the same will take place during Venus anthra, in
the bukthi ofSaturn, as the boy was running Saturn period and Saturn
bukti and Kethu anthra then while consulted.

Saturn dasa started on 22-10-92 and the bukthi is from 22-

10-92 to 25. 10.95.

Kethu anthra is then running upto 11.:.11-93.

I discussed Saturn and it is in Ill and no planet in its star and so

fully signifies Ill & IV and is placed in the star ofMars in X owning I·
& VI owning I & VI and so signifies X al so fuly and I & VI feebly.

Except for III signification, nothing encouraging as regards to

the status ofSatun, to bring about marriage.
0

When I looked in to the sublord of Saturn, it was Moon. Moon

is in III owning IX No planet in IX bhavam. (No planet in Moon
star) and so fullysignifiesill&IX. Beingplacedinthe starofRahu in
VII, it was derived that Saturn bukthi can bring about marriage.

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 I worked out the Anthra and found then to be ofKethu from
18-9-93 to 21-1-93.

Kethu was assessed to findout if Marriage can click in this

anthra.

As Kethu being in the sub ofSaturn, signifies X fully and I &

VI feebly, quite detrimental for marital matters.

So I worked out Venus anthra that it was from 21-11-93 to

21-5-94.

Venus discussed.

Venus ?WDS VII & XII and placed in XII.

Venus is in the star ofJupiter in VI owning II & V. No planets

inii &V.

Venus is in the sub ofKethu, placed in the star ofMercury on

the lind cusp owning XI (No planet in XI).

So Venus having the fe eble signification of VII and full

signification ofii & V, is well connected to II & XI thro sub.

So I told the father ofthe boy that ther is very good chance of
his marriage coming up in Venus anthra.

Recently it was indicated that Marriage had taken place on

22-1-94.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
At the on set, I feel obliged to answer the question through
letter regarding the basis oftheAyanamsa, I am using in all my articles.
I had many a time explained the basis and again I write the same.

Gurjuji Sri KSK told that the year 291 AD is the one to be
reckoned for this and the New Comb rate of precision i.e.
50-23 88475 seconds per year. to be taken for arriving the correct
ayanamsa

And I have strictly followed his advice and theayanamsaarrived

at and using the same for all my Articles, either to published in the
columns ofKP &Astrology.

Now I take up the Horoscope of Mr. S. Subramaniam a

business magnetofAdyar, born on 12/13-10-63 at 5-5 a.m. ISTat
Tenkasi ( T.Veli) 8°-59'/77°-21 '.

Ayanamasa 23-10-59

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Rahu Venus Rahu
Moon Moon Satmn Sun
Mars Venus Rahu Satmn
Mercwy Moon Ketu Satmn
Jupiter Venus

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 Jup(R) vm XS-24-23
20-30-9 9-24-23 IX9-24-23 Rahu
VIIS-35-33 27-15-5

VI
7-24-23 XI7-24-23
Nirayana Bhava
Chakram
Balance in Kethu
Sat(R) Moon
23-11-2
dasa at birth 3-5940
V7-24-23 4 Yrs.l OMonths 25Days XII7-24-23

Kethu Mars I 8-35-33

22-15-5 III 27-37-17 Mer. 10-7-25
IVS-24-23 9-24-23 119-24-23 Sun 25-34-59
Ven7-17-42

Though Mr. S~am is a man ofhigh material standard, I

have nothing to discuss except a grave incident happened to him on
23-8-1992.

One will shudder to hear it as it is a bign accident to occurred

to him and his two friends vecy seriously and miraculously spared by
almighty, ofcourse with serious cuts and bruises all over his body.

He and his friends, on that fateful day were caught under a big
fast running lony and the on lookers were sure that not a bone will be
spared.

But God, he is supreme and he spared all the

3 to come alive, .
ofcourse badly damaged bodies and in unconscious stage.

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 They were hospitalised and came out perfectly well. Lets us
discuss the same Astrologically.

Mr. Subramaniam was running the major period of Sun then

i.e. from 7-9-1988 to 7-9-1994

Let us discuss Sun.

Sun is in lagna and owns XII. (No planet in Sun star) so sun
signifies I & XII fully.

Sun is in the star of Mars in II owning III & Vill. So II III &
VIII also fully.

Sun is in the sub ofRahu & It is in the sta':" of Jupiter in VII,

owning IV.

So it signifies VII & IV thro sub.

Hence Sun attains ofthe signification of XII & Vill thro star
and IV thro sub. The combination ofiV VII & XII (IVth Trigon)
portend accidents and untoward happenings.

This had happened in the buk.-th.i ofMercury from 25-6-92 to

1-5-93.

Let us see what Mercury tells.

It is in lagna, in the star ofMoon in XI owning XI. It is good.

But how it had given him such a horrible sufferings.

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 Look in to the sub lord ofMercury.

It is Moon & Moon is in the star ofKetu in IV. It is bad.

On the day it was the anthram of Ketu in IV. (8.8.92 to

26.8.92).

It is in the star of Venus in I & in the sub of Saturn and so

signifies V VI & XI.

So the entire signification ofN VIII & XII had given him serious
accident and the benefic signification of V & XI & I had saved him
miraculously in the post accident period and brought him to nonnally
in Ketu anthra itself.

Now I take up another birth chart ofSri.E.A. Venkatachari of

Chennai born at 1-44 a.m. on 29/30-4-1936, atATHI Village very
near to Kancheepurarn 12-50179-45.

Ayanamsa 22-57-23.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

SlDl Moon Venus Ketu
Moon Venus Satmn Ketu
Mars Moon Rahu Venus
Mercury Mercury Ketu Mercury
Jupiter Venus

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 Ve0-10-00
Mere.
m10-26-40 v 5-56-40
n 7-56-40 Sun 16-21-31 5-13-U
Kethu
IV9-56-40
Mars27-25-32 13-36-35
Saturn
26-19-20
IV2-56-40
I 2-33-34 Nirayana bbava
chakram
period at birth
5 Yrs. 11 M 21 Days. Moon
Xll2-56-40
VU2-33-34

Rahu 13-36-35
Xl5-56-40
X9-56-40 IX vm
Jupiter(R) 10-56-40 7-56-40
0-51-35

I take up discussion ofvarious matter and the fructification of

those matters the role ofsublord as well.

He entered his service during May 93 corresponding with the

major period Venus, bukthi ofSaturn&AnthraofSaturn(28-2-55
to 29-8 -55).

The major period lord Venus is in the star ofKethu.. Placed in

V is a detriment for entering service.

But the same Venus is in the Sub Kethu and so signifies XI (

being Kethu placed in the star ofRahu in XI in Dhanus duly standing
for Jupiter in X owning II) & ll.

It was the bukthi of Saturn, antras Saturn. · How Saturn is

connected service?

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 Saturn is in Lagna (No-planet in stars) and so fully signifies I
& XII Saturn being placed in the star ofJupiter and so X. This stellar
strength.

Saturn is in the sub of Kethu in V and there are planets in

Kethu star. But Kethu is in the star ofRahu in XI ( Dhanus) and so
fully represents Jupiter in X.

So he entered into service in thisAnthra ofSaturn.

His marriage was celebrated during November 1962.

It was then the major period of Sun and bukthi of Moon ( 16-
8-62 to 16-2-63)

Sun is in the star ofVenus in II, and in the sub ofMoon in VI,
duly placed in the star ofKethu in V, (No planet in Moon star) and
so Sun signifies V & VI thro sub and owns VII. Bukthi lord Moon is
in VI and placed in the star ofKethu in V and being placed in the sub
ofVenus, signifies V. It is rather good.

It was the anthra of Saturn from 2-11-62 when the marriage

was celebrated.

Saturn is in the star ofJupiter in X. owning II & XI & being in

the sub ofkethu, signifies XI fully. (Here V, VII & XI combination
under sub lord signification).,

1st child was born during April 65. Then it was the major
period of Sun, bukthi of Saturn Antra of Saturn ( 3-3-65 to
27-4-65)

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 Sun being placed in the sub ofMoon, signifies V & VI Saturn
being placed in the sub ofKethu in V and so signifies XI.

So in the Anthra cfSatum V & XI combination has worked

out and so child in Sun/Sat/Sat.

lind child born during June 1967. Then it was the major period
of Sun, Bukthi ofVenus andAnthra ofVenus 27-4-67 to 27-6-67.

As explained above, Sun gets the signification ofV & VI thro

sub lord.

Venus the bukthi and Anthra LORD IS IN THE SUB OF

Kethu in V duly signifying XI: So in the anthra ofVenus V & XI
combination worked out and so a child in Sun/Venus/Venus.

lllrd child he got in November 1969. Then it was the major

period ofMoon from28-4-68 for I 0 years and during November'69
it was the bukthi ofRahu (28-9-69 to 28-3-71) andAnthra ofRahu
from 28-9-69 to 18-12-69.

Let us discuss Moon.

It is in VI and placed in the star ofKethu in V. (No planet in

Moon star) and so fully signifies V & VI also.

Moon is in the sub of Venus in II duly placed in the star of

Kethu in V. So V fully thro sub.

Rahu is in the star of Venus in II & So fully II, IV & IX are

being in the sub ofVenus signifies V fully.

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 Hence a child in the buk:thi and Anthra ofRahu ( Here II & V
combination had worked out for a child)

Lost his mother on 23-4-1968.

It was the period of Sun from 28-4-62 to 28-4-68.

Sun as already discussed signified IV & IX thro stellar position

· X & V & sub lord strength.

Mother passed away in Venus bhukthi and KethuAnthra.

Venus is in II, in the star ofKethu and in the sub ofKethu and
so signify and duly stands for Jupiter in X.

In terms ofiVth house Xth is a Mars place. Keth.u is in V in

the star ofRahu again and in the sub of Mercury in XII planet in
Mercury stars) apd so signifies fully and Mercury being in the star of
magain XII fully.
So here mother died under the signification ofV, X & X under
sub lord, strength i.e.II & VII in reference to IV.

He had voluntacy retirement from service during December 89

when he running the major period ofRahu (April to April2003).

Rahu is in XI placed in the star of in II, owning IV & IX, and

placed in the of Venus signifying V, as Venus is placed the star of
Kethu in V. As node stands for Mercury in III and owns V.

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 This tells fall out from service sustained in Rahu bukthi from
April' 85 to January 88, as Rahu stands ofJupiter.

So only Jupiter bukthi he could get retirement Why? (Jan 88

toJan90)

Jupiter is in the star ofKethu in V the sub ofVenus which is

also placed and star ofKethu, in V duly standing for Vlll.

He was relived on the 1st of Dec' 89 and it was then Moon

Anthra (23-11-89 to 5-12-89). Moon is in VI, in the star Kethu in
V, and placed in the sub ofVenus owning IV & IX & placed in the
KethuinV.

This generation voluntarily retired on 31-12-89 and became

more fortunate there after How? Had a big windfall thro a being
payment over 2lakhs ofRs. thro share market during MAy'92.

Then it was the major period or Rahu from April' 85 to 2003

April.

Rahu is in XI in the star of Venus in II & so it gets a fines

signification ofll.

Rahu in the sub ofVenus again and so II and placed in the star
ofKethu in V tells share market. As node, Kethu stands for Mercury
in Ill having been placed in the star of Sun in ill.

So V, ll, lii has an unique combination for money thro share

market.

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 With the advent ofRahu penod, he had payment thro shares
offand on.

But during May 92 he had very big payment. Then it was the
major period ofRahu and bukthi ofSaturn ( 4-6-90 to 10.4.93)

I have already discussed Rahu and as for Saturn, it is in Lagna

owning Lagna and no planet in its star and so fully signifies lagna.

Saturn is in the star of Jupiter owning II & XI in X.

And it is in the Sub ofKethu, in V placed in the star ofRahu in

XI.

These signification ofSaturn II, Xl, XV & XI had given him a

big financial boost.

It was Mars anthra (20-4-92 to 20-6-92) Mars is in III owning

III & X, no planet in Mars star and so III fully & X feebly.

Mars is in the star of Sun in III and it is in the sub ofMoon in

VI, owning VI (No planet in Moon star) and so fully signifies VI
Moon is in the star ofKethu in V.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

Today I have taken up the Horoscope of the VVIP of

I
Tamilnadll .

Born at 11-6-42 A.M. (Rectified) on 4-2-48 at Bangalore -

12 58/77-38. Ayanamsa 23-7-26

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sub lord

I Mars VII Venus
II Jupiter VIII Jupiter
III ·saturn IX Saturn
IV Kethu ·X Mercury
v Jupiter XI Jupiter
VI Rahu XII Rahu
XII Rahu
24-1 3-29 24-49-52 II 26-13-29 Ill 22-13-29
Ve 21-4 1-56 Asc-I
28-27-32

XI 20- 13-29
Sun
Nirayana Bhava IV 19-13-29
11-24-36
Sat 24-54-24
Mer (R) Chakram
2-50-15 Balance in Kethu
dasa at birth Mars (R)
4Yrs. 7 Months25Days 2-27-13
X 19-13-29 Moon
4-28-27
v 20-13-29

Vll
IX VIII 28-27-52 VI 24-13-29
22-13-29 26-13-29 Kethu
Jup 2-00-26 24-48-52

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 Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
Sun Saturn Venus Sun
Moon Moon Saturn Rahu
Mars Venus Rahu Mercwy
Mercwy Venus Ketu Mercury
Jupiter Venus

Now I desire to assess the horoscope by a briefdiscussion on

the strength of Sub-lords ofall .the 12 cusps ofthe birth chart.

The 1st cusp sublord here is Mars.

Mars is in IV, and it owns lagna cusp.

It is in the star ofKetu in VI.

And it is in the sub ofVenus a full significator ofX & ill.

This tells a birth with a long lease of life over middle age, with
good material status, with no good constitution ofbody.

The Ilnd cusp sublord is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in VIII (Ketu is in Jupiter star) and so it does not

signifyVID. ·

Jupiter is in the star ofKetu in VI is good.

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 Jupiter is in the sub ofVenus in XI owning II no planet in II ( ·
No planet in Venus star) & so fully signifies II, XI, It is fine.

Venus is in the star ofMercwy in X owning II & VI. This tells

high financial standard oflife.

Illrd cusp sublord is Saturn. Saturn is in the star ofMercury in

X owning ill. This tells her very bold temperament & prowess Saturn
in the sub ofRahu duly signifying XI. Hence it is final that she will act
very boldly.

IVth cusp sub lord is Kethu.

· Kethu is in VI, in the star ofJupiter in Vill.

Being in the sub ofMercury, It signifies IV & I. This tells she

enjoys best vehicular and House hold comforts. Good education is ·
shown, with more gener.al knowledge.

Vth cusp sub lord is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in the star ofKetu in VI is fine.

Jupiter is in the sub ofVenus and so signifies II, XI & X.

This tells her very successful acting life and also political status.

Vlth cusp sub lord is Rahu.

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 Rahu is in XII, in the star of Venus in XI. Rahu in the sub of
Mercury in X, placed in the star of Mars in IV (Leo) tells Health
troubles connected to Heart & Spinal Cord.

Vllth cusp sub lord is Venus.

Venus is in XI & owns II (No planet in II ) and so should have

got married.

But as Venus in the star of Mercury in X owning Ill, & also

being the sub of Sun signifying IV, tells negation to marital life.

Vffith cusp sub lord is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in VIII.(Ketu is in Jupiter star) and so it does not

signifyVill.

Jupiter is in the star ofKetu in VI is good.

And it is in the sub ofVenus in XI, owning II & placed in the

star ofMercwy in X, owning ID tells the fortunate position ttult she is
free from accidents & even ifthere is, not affecting the person of the
native, at all, and miraculous escape, ifany.

IXth cusp sub lord is Saturn. Saturn is in IV & owns X &

XII(as no planet tenants its stars) it signifies IV & X & XI.

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 Saturn is in the sub ofRahu, placed in the star ofVenus in XI
owning II tells the native is ushered in to this world, with high Poorva
Ptmyam & to enjoy very high status in this Janrna.

Xth cusp sub lord is Mercury.

Mercury is in~ & placed inthe Saturn, Mars in IV.

Owning Lagna. (No planet in lagna) Mercury is in the sub of

Venus, in XI placed in the star of Mercury in X tells high political
status, with better circwnstances.

Xlth cusp sub lord is Jupiter.

Jupiter is in Vill (Ketu in its star) does not signify VID.

Jupiter is in the star ofKetu in VI placed in the sub of Venus

duly signifying X. This tells r.igh friends and supporter with all sincerity.

Xllth cusp sub lord is Rahu.

Rahu is in XII (Stm is in Rahu star) & so does not signify XII.

Rahu is in the star ofVenus in XI owning II so fully signifi~ XI

&II.

Rahu in the sub ofMercury and signifies IV & I.

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 l)l.e above discussing tells, the complete strength of the
horosc~pe and also reveals that it is a fine Horoscope, promising·
high political powers. & high material standard all through. With
such a strength of 12 cusps only. The periods can afford good status
and the nati ve can enjoy results ofthose significations, shown by the
J)eriod with such significations afforded with such density & strength
as revealed by the cuspal sublords of such houses, shown tmder
them sub lords strength.

Let us now discuss the periods enjoyed by the native.

It was themajorperiod of Sun from 19-10-72 to 19-10-78.

Sun is in X & no planet in Sun stars and so fully signifies X & V

also.

So this period should have given the native more name & come
thro Artistic way & acting, and also connection to Politics, in a general
way.

Next period of Moon from 19-10-78 for ten years i.e. upto
19-10-1988.

Moon is in IV & no !Jlanet in Moon star and so fully signifies

IV. This is against political status and any recognition.

Moon is in the star ofKetu in VI. Tells some serious bodily

discomfort & bad illness.

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 Moon in the sub of its own & so VI again & so this period
went on without acting life in terms ofiV and not well recognised in
political field also.

Then comes the major period of Mars from 19-10-1988 to

19-10-95.

Mars is in IV and here is Mercury an Mars star and so does

not signify IV at all.

Mars is in the star ofKetu in VI is good.

Mars is in the sub ofVenus and so signifies X & ill fully.

So she emerged a powerful politician and even elevated to the

status ofChiefMinister ofTamilnadu during July 1991 duly defeating
her political opponents hands down.

How? It was the bukthi of Saturn from 10-3-91 to 13-4-92.

Saturn is in the star of Mercury in X, owning III & VI and

being in the sub ofRahu and so signifies XI & II fully. So the Xth
signification has been fully realised and became a reality to her and
elevated her to a very high political status.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
I take up the Horoscope of Mr. DAS born at 11.40 p.m. 1st
on 11-6-1962 at CALCUTTA 22°-34°/88°-24". Ayanamsa
23°-19-9°"
Cusp Sub lord Cusp Sub lord
I Mercury VII Mercury
II Venus VIII Kethu
III Jupiter IX Rahu
IV Saturn X Saturn
v Saturn XI Saturn
-vi Venus . XII Kethu

III 1-S8-51
111-58-51 Mer. 20-27-24
Mars V22-58-51
Sun22-0-45
16-15-19 IV 27-58-51
..
·. Ve0-12-48
124-10-44 Rahu ·
Jupiter Nirayana Bhava
18-7-35
18-41-53 · Chakram Vll9-58-51
Balance in Moon
XII19-58-51 period at birth
Kethu 18-7-35 7Yrs. 6 Months 18 Days
VII
Saturn (R)
24-1044
17-44-20

X
XI 27-58-51 vm Moon
.22-58-51 IX 1-58-51 1-58-51 13-17-23
..
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 .
Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
SW1 , .Jupiter Venus Moon
Moon Rahu Saturn Saturn
Mars Moon Rahu Mercury
Mercury Venus Kethu Mercury .
Jupiter Moon

The native ofthe birth chart approached me to know about his

marital life or love affairs ifany.

So I made the horoscope and looked in - to Vllth cusp.

The sub lord Mercury owns V and is in lll, in the star ofMoon
in VII, owns VI and no planet in VI.

And Mercury is in the sub ofVenus in V, placed in the star of

Jupiter in XII.

So in terms of stellar strength the matter is VII & VI i.e.

matrimonial matters and as sub lord Venus in V & signifies XII so, the
matrimonial and love matters should face failures.

It was Rahu bukthi from December 76 to September 79. Rahu

has the matters ofV & VII. should have hand in love matters and a
beginning in that line oflife.

Jupiter bukthi came from September 79 to February'82 Jupiter

in the star ofRahu in V tells love affairs and Jupiter in the sub of
Moon duly signifying VI & Vll, fully did not materialise iqto wedlock,
as VI is detriment and spoiled it as Moon is owner ofVIth cusp, also.

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 Next, the bukthi of Saturn from February'82 to December'84
SatUrn is in the star ofMoon in VII & owning VI no planet in VI so
marriage matter. Saturn in the sub ofits own and so again VI & VII .;

and so no love affair. It is a barren one for love matters. Mercury

bukthi from December'84 to June 87. Mercury in the starofMoon
in VII owning VI and no planet in VI. So regarding marital matters.

Mercury being in the sub ofVenus signifying XII again a barren

period from love affair. Nothing will come up.

From June 87 to July 88, is Kethu bukthi. Kethu is in the star

of Moon and so signifies VI & VII. Being in the sub of Mercury,
again signifies VII & VI. it is a barren one for love matters.

July 88 to July 91 is the bukthi ofVenus. Venus is in V, in the

star ofJupiter in:xrr,and being in the sub ofMoon duly sig11.: :-ying VI
& YII so secret love matters had come up and continued in Sun
bukthi.

Sun bukthi is from July 91 to June 92. The student will note
that Sun is in ill and no planet in Sun star and so fully signifies ill &
VII. Sun is in the sub ofJupiter planet in the star ofRahu in V. The
love affair was success~lly ~ntinuing in this bukthi, as sub signifies V
very well.

All went well in the love matters and Moon bukthi came in
June 92 to Dec.93.

Moon is in its own star in VII & owns VI a detriment matter

for marital matter. And Moon is in the sub ofRahu in V & signifies
III.

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 During December'93 the matter came to the ears ofthe parents,
when Mars bukthi started and so trouble started.

Why?

Mars is in the star ofVenus in V & so the matter, love affair.

Mars is in the sub ofMoon placed in its own star in Vll? owning
VI and no planet in VI. VI worked out in full and the trouble had the
beginning, with the girl changing her mind and the boy faced fiustration

So the students may note that in the matter oflove affairs, ifthe
planet is controlled by the sub lord signifying VI or IV or XII the
matter will fall through, and further, VII cusp sub lord is Mercury and
it signifies VI & VIII thro star and there sub lord Venus signifies Xll
& so his Vllth does not promise marital life.

Now I take up another horoscope, of a lady born at 11-55

am (old time)on26-5-1945 atKanchipuram 12-50/79.45Ayanamsa
23.4.55.

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Mars Venus Kethu
Moon Rahu Saturn Venus
Mars Rahu Rahu Sun
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Mars
Jupiter Mercury

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 Venus X8-27 Xl8-27
Mars
0-23-25 Sun Sat.l6-6-57
24-48-23 IX7-27
. VIII 6-27 Mer20-33-1 ll-32-35 Rahu
. 18-1-17

VD Xll7-27
6-55-24 Nirayana Bhava Chakram
Balance in Jupiter
period at birth
OYrs. 11 Months 28Days 16-55-54
IV7-27 Jupiter
24-38-37

Ketu VIS-27 116-27

Ill7-27
18-1-7 Moon
VS-27 2-30-15

This lady lost her mother in her very young age of4 suddenly
during July 1949, it was then the bukthi of Mercury in the major
period ofSaturn.

We shall see how Mercury kills the mother of the native.

Mercury is in IX owns II & XI. There is Mars in Mercury star. So
Mercury does not signify IX, II & XI and Mercury is in the star of
Venus in VIII, owning III & X. In terms ofiVth cusp representing
Mother's lagna) Venus signifies V, VII & XII. This is matter telling
death ofMother. Does it fructify.

Look in to the sub lord of Mercury. It is Jupiter and Jupiter is

/

in the star ofVenus in VIII owning IX & X as above, and so in terms

ofiV signifies V, VII & xn. This tells the passing away ofthe mother
ofthenative.

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 Now the question arises does IV cusp indicate so short a life
ofthe mother.

The sub lord ofthe IVth cusp tells the same. The sub lord is
Venus.

Venus is in V from IVth cusp & owns VII & XII.

Venus is placed in the stars & sub ofKetu, in ll as tenns ofVth

and duly signifying VII & XII. This tells short life for mother.

She got some landed property transferred on her thro a will in

the bukthi ofKethu in Saturn period i.e.. by October 1952.

Let us discuss Kethu. it is in V and Venus is in its star and so

does not signify V. Kethu is in the star ofVenus in VIII and so signifies
VIII fully. This is matter VIII, stands for wills.

Kethu is in the sub ofMars, placed in the star ofMercury and

so signifies II & XI (II fully) lind ~tands for possession.

So she got the landed property and even today·she possess

the same;

She got married on 14-8-59 in the bukthi ofMars in between

27-11-1958 to 6.. 1-60.

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 Mars is in the star ofMercury and so signifies IT fully and XI
feebly, and placed in the sub ofRahu in XI in its own star.

(Please note Rahu and Saturn the Vllth house significator are
within 2° and also note that no planet gets the sub lordship ofSaturn
the Vllth lord, & as no planet tenants Saturn stars).

This is an unique status in the horoscope as regards to Vllth

matter.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
In continuation ofmy Articles under the above caption I like to
discuss the birth chart ofMr.Rao of Madras born on 17-6-1939 at
10-45 P.M. at Chennai 13.04/80-17.

Ayanamsa 22-59-53

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Stm Kethu Venus Moon
Moon Venus Saturn Rahu
Mars Mars Rahu Mercwy
Mercury Kethu Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Rahu

I had already discussed this chart in my Article under caption

sub lord speaks IX.

Mr. Rao had then consulted me regarding his court case

regarding Divorce.

• As predicted by me it ended up in Sun bukthi, in Major period

ofSaturn from July 1974 to July 1993 (Sun bukthi from June 84 to
June85).

Saturn though signifies IT under stellar strength fully, it failed to

give the native family happiness.

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 Why? Saturn is in the sub ofRahu in VIIT in its own star being
in 13°00' 14" in Libra and also as node further signifies IV & VI duly
representing Venus posited in 11 '0' 5" in Taurus-

Divorce case continued during Saturn period.

Finally it ended up in mutual consent with more benefits during

1984 during the bukthi of Sun (from June 1984 to June 1985).

Sun is in the star ofMars in XII & no planet in Sun star and so
signifies VII & IV also. These signification portray the difficult
situations, he had to face. But being in the sub ofKetu, he attains a
full signification of II and Ketu, as node represents Mars, a full
significator of VI. These II & VI signification ended the case in his
favour with benefits. ·

Then lines only force the idea that Saturn a full significator ofll,
could not give a peaceful family life for the native and on the contrary
he had a bachelor's life though married, in this period, as the same
Saturn attains VIIIth signification thro it sub lord Rahu.

Mr. Rao again consulted me during 1992. when Jupiter bukthi

running in Saturn period and was apprehensive ofhis ensuing MercUIY
period to start on 3-7-1993.

Why? He stated that Mercury for Kumbha lagna, is the owner

ofV & VIII and is in V itself. Further no planet in Mercury Stars
Ayilyam, Kettai and Revathi. So he is fully signifying V & VIIT. He
said he would be facing serious troubles in the way ofhis service and
financial failures also. He went to the extent of saying, he could be
Iossing his service also.

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 Of course I accepted the signification ofMercury, being V &
VIII and pointed put to hlm the effect of Sublord over the planet.
Here the sublord ofMercury is Kethu a full significator ofll, and I
made an emphatic prediction that he would safely continue to be in
service and over and above will have the happiness of enjoying a
love affair al so, with a decent lady as V is connected to II.

· As indicated by me, now he came and accepted that no serious

matters ever came in his service life and over and above, he has affair
with a very rich woman also.

I also indicated to him ihat he will be going on more leave

during Keth bukthi i.e from 30-11-95 to 27-11-96. Why?

Jupiter Saturn Venus Sun2-36-35

13-2-51 5-36-12 1145 Moon 4-40-44
Ket 13-00-14 VS-58-55
II 11 -58-55 IV 12-58-55
III 14-57-44 Mer. 14-45-8

VI
16-12-40 Nirayana Bhava 5-58-55
Chakram
Mars Balance in Mars
11-32-58
XII
.
lYrs. OIVtonths 16 Days VII
6-12-40
5-58-55
IX 14-57-44
XI 8-58-55 X 12-58-55 Rahu VIII
13-00-14 11-58-'55

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 Kethu is in II & so fully signifies II and as node represents
Mars, placed in the star ofMoon owning VI no planets in VI. So VI
& II continues the service. But as Kethu in the sub of Mercury in V
tells some disturbances in the Venus ofservice and he will be obliged
to avoid office, by going on long leave.

Next comes the bukthi ofVenus from 27-1 1-96 to 27-9-99.

Venus is in the star ofMoon, signifying VI & IV fully.

Venus is the sub ofMoon and so signifies XII & X.

So I hinted him, he is retiring during his bukthi without any

i
"major trouble in Venus anthra itself.

In tenns ofthe Vth signification ofthe Dasa lord Mercury, he

is now deeply engrossed inmantlua sastra and now doing daily Japarns
andPoojas.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
I wanted to discontinue writing article under the above caption,
but as our steemed Editor Sri. K.Subramamam desires me to continue
the same for the sake K.P. Readers. I am continuing this.

Now I take up the Horoscope of My be loved friend Mr.

Doraiswamy, born on 22-4-1958 at 6-10 a.m. IST- Place Trichy at
10-50 N, Long 78-44 East. Ayanamsa25°15'48".

He used to, too often consult me and when he was running Sun
bukthi in Rahu period, between 26-9-89 and 20-8-90, when he was
working on administrative status in Rayalaseema industries, I told
him though he was drawing a fat salary) he is destined to earn lakhs
every month, but not more thousands. Then he could not accep my
statement his horoscope.
Mercury Sun8-7-50 n 9-59-5 5 III
29-23-20 Kethu 8-14-5 Moon 6-59-55
pm 4-59-55 I 9-41-32
Lagna 10-9-50

Venus
22-16-56 IV
Nirayana Bhava
Mar.3-0-25 2-59-55
XI 1-59-55 Chakram
Balance in Moon
period of birth
9 Yrs.-10 M- .16 Days. v
X2-59-55 1-59-55

IX6-59-55 VII 9-41-32

. Satum(R)
VIII
9-59-55
RahuS-14-15
Jupiter(R)
VI
2-12-9 4-59-55
2-54-59

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 Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
Sun Jupiter Venus Satwn
Moon Moon Saturn Venus
Mars Venus Rahu Rahu
Mercury Saturn Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Venus

Such changes for his betterment came in the meantime, now

on date he talks about millions only. How it happended, we shall
discuss.

He got married on 18-12-1983. It was then the major period

ofRahu, from March 1975 to March 1993.

Rahu is in its own star in VI, but as node respresenting Venus

in XI, owning II & VII. So Rahu has the power to allow marriage
despite the fact it signifies VI. .It is imperative in the case ofNodes,
you must give credence, to its rasi lord (Note Venus has no planet in
its XI, II & VII)

The date ofmarriage falls in the bukthi ofSaturn.

Let us discuss Saturn. Saturn is in VIII and owns X & XI (No

planet in Saturn stars) and so fully signifies X, VITI, X & XI.

Saturn is in the sub ofVenus in XI (No planet in Venus Stars)

and so fully signifies XI, II and VII.

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 So though Saturn signifies VIII and~ detriment siginfication
for Marriage, through sub it signifies ~,VII & XI and so marriage in
this bukthi.

It was an illuck, he had to pass that way where a murder being

committed. The murderer also saw him and found that he will be in
trouble and eye witness ofhis committed ofthe act ofcrime and so
mentally troubled that he sould be implicated and forced to stand as
a witness against a murder.

It is during Aug 1982. Then it was middle of Saturn bukthi.

Let us discuss how it happened as it was a regular torment to

his mind.

Saturn as discussed above fully signifies Villas it has no planet

in its stars. Saturn owns X and XI (No planet in X and there are
planets in XI). So Saturn signifies X also fully.

Saturn is in the star ofKethu in XII. So Saturn signifies XII

also.

Saturn in the sub ofVenus in XI, placed in the star ofJupiter in

VI owning IX and XII. So VIII, XII and IX gave him torment ag~
X & VI gave him mental strength, as it is a good cause. (Vlli & XII
gave him murderous threat to him all through the case which ended in
Jupiter Anthra in Mercwy bukthi.

Mercury is in XII in its own star and so signifies XII, ill & VI
and is in the sub of Saturn in VIII and placed in the s~ ofKethu in
XII. ' I

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 So Mercury gets XII, Vill and XII again and the~fo~ it was
hell ofa time for the native.

Jupiter Anthra (between 10-1-85 and 29-4-85) ended the

Torment, as the case got finalised and the culprits jailed for long term.

What is the strength of Jupiter to give him mental peace.

Jupiter is in VI, in the star ofMars in XI in its own star, owning

Lagna and VIII.( Saturn is in VIII) So Jupiter fully signified XI and
this is good.

Such a Jupiter is in the sub ofVenus XI (No Planet in Venus

star) and so for signifies XI. The same Venus is inthe star' ofJupiter in
VI. So, VI & XI releived him from the nasty trouble of being a
winner for MURDER CASE.

He got his first Child on 24-4-84 Then it was Mercury bukthi.

(20-2-83 to 8-9-85)

How Mercury is connected to Progency.

Mercury is in XII in its own star and so fully signfies XII, II &
VI. But Mercury in the sub of Saturn placed in the star ofKethu in
XII. Then how a child on this bukthi that has nothing to do with Vth
at all.

Look at Kethu i.e. the star lord ofthe sub lord Saturn. Kethu
is in Aries 14-S"and Sun in Aries 8°-7-5' Kethu by virtue ofits
occupation with Sun owning Vth cusp and no planet in V, so the child
Mercury bukthi.

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 Another child born on 12-5-1988 it was then running Venus
bukthi (26-9-86 to 26-9-89) How Venus is connected to child
birth, let us look into. Venus is in XI No planet in Venus stars) and so
fully signifies II & VII also Venus is in the star ofJupiter and so VI, IX
and XII (Mercury in XII) Venus is in the sub of Saturn and placed in
the star ofKethu in XII in.A.ries at 8°14' 5" with close promixity with
Sun in Aries 8°-7' 50", as discussed above Venus bukthi could give
child.

Joined a lucrative service in Raya laseema Industries on 15-9-

87 from ordinary job. It was then Venus bukthi Rahu major period.
Venus ( 26-9-86 to 26-9-89) is in XI (No planet in Venus stars) So
fully signifies XI, II & VII Venus is in the star ofJupiter in VI owning
IX and XII Mercury in XII) So jupiter signifies VI & Venus is the sub
of Saturn and so signifies Vill & X (No planet in Saturn stars) Xll
being in the star ofKethu in XII, VI IX changed his job, X & XI gave
him status in service, as Kethu the node represents Mars in XI.

He maintained a good administrative status in Rayalaseema

Industries and when he was there, he consulted me in Moon bukthi,
regarding his future, when I was told enough to tell him that he would
become a Crorepathi in Jupiter major period, and such correction
are to come in Mars bukthi itself in Rahu period. It was the Moon
bukthi from 20-8-90 to 20-2-92. Moon is in II in its own star and
own sub. predicted him that he would be getting a bing amount then.
It happened and he got the money, Four lakhs through chit which
was so utterly not in his preview.

Accepting this prediction, he consulted about his future.

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 I looked at Jupiter and its significations Jupiter period to run
from8-3-93 for 16years.

Jupiter is in VI, and as Venus is in Jupiter star, Jupiter cannot

signify VI, IX and XII Jupiter is in the star of Mars in XI in its own
star So XI &J ( Saturn is in VIII) so through star Jupiter fully signifies
XI & I fully, Jupiter is in the sub ofVenus in XI (No planet in Venus
star) and so fully signifies XI, II & VII.

Venus is in the star ofJupiter in VI, owning IX and XII (Mercury

in XII) and so VI and IX. Here Jupiter with its Stellar signification of
XI, 1 is aided by its sub lord venus, with the signification ofXI, ll VII
&VI fully.

So I finalised and told that during this Moon bukthi, he will be

leaving his Job and take u~ a bing business life during Jupiter major
period and earn Lakhs.

He could belive it and went away.

Again ve:ry soon by December 1991 he again came to me and

told that my prediction is taking shape to come 100% true.

How, I asked him. He narrated how by his Grace, one of his

!ich relative has given him some hundreds ofAcres ofland on lease
for producing Salt and now during May 1994, lease has been made
permanent and he is·now getting lakhs ofrupees in his production of
salt. Getting back to Moon bukthi the lease l?Dds has come under his
'
control. How?

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 Moon owns IVth cusp and no planet in IVth, more so Moon
fully signifies N. Moon being in its own sub, IVthandllnd significations
are there (Moon is in its own star and own sub in II).

Hence IVth house matter, is lands, with the aid of Sub

significations ofVI & II, has come to him with least trouble.

Lands do come, when IVth signification works out thro Sub.

It is general matter.

Here, the lands got under lease only. How to find out? The
IVth cusp sub lord tells about it. Our Gurujui Sri. KSK used to tell
that only lease matters can be seen ifRahu intervenes.

Here actually the sub Lord is Rahu, as the IV Cuspal degree

falls in Cancer 2°59'55".

Rahu is in its own star and Sub in VI. ag~nst odds, he easily
got the lands under lease in Moon bukthi itself.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

I take up the birth chart of Mr. Karthikeyan born on 30-9/

I
1-:-10 -1942 at 12-5 night at Madurai-9°-55'178°-10' Ayanamsa:
23°-2-24
xn 17-27 • ·•-+

Sat.l9-27-36 I 16-22-55
X 13-27 XI 16-27 Moon Jup.29-22-1
2543-20

IX 11-27
Ketu Nirayana Bhava 1112-27
9-20-17 Chakram
Balance in Mars
period at · Rahu
VIII Yrs.5-8-28 days 9-20-1 7
12-27
III 11-27

VII v 16-27 Ven.2-1 2-13

Mercury IVI3-27
16-22-55 VI 17-27 Sun 13-54-17
2-40-32
MarslS-39-48

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord

I Venus VII Moon
II Mars VIII Rahu
III Mercury IX Saturn
IV Rahu x. Rahu
v Venus XI Moon
VI Mercury Xll Saturn
·,

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 Planet Suhlord Planet Suhlord
Swt Jupiter Venus Jupiter
Moon ·. Rahu Saturn Mercury
Mars Jupiter Rahu Saturn
Mercury Venus Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Stm

He entered into Central Government Service on 8-10-1963.

Then he was in the Major period of Rahu, and bukthi of Sun
(17-1-63 to 17-12-69).

Let us discuss Rahu first. Rahu is in II, in the star ofKethu in

VIII. Rahu is in the Sub of Saturn and so signifies XII and IT. So
Rahu is a mixed period, with average flow ofmoney, long travels
also indicates, along with new environment.

When he get employed it was Sun bukthi. How Sun is

coiUlected to Service?

Sun is in IV, in the star ofMoon is XII. But it is in the Sub of

Jupiter in Lagna in its own star and owns X. So thro' Sub, Sun gets
X signification and so got employed this bukthi.

As Dasa lord and bukthi lord both have XII signification from
star, he got service in a far offplace in Madhya Pradesh.

He left service on 1-2-1969. It was the bukthi of Saturn ( 17-

8-68 to 29-2-71). Let us see how Saturn tells that.

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 Saturn is in XII and no planet in its stars so fully signifies XII,
VIII & IX. It is in the Sub ofMercury. Mercury in IV ofno planet in
its star stands as detriment to service and it tells bad occupational life
during this bukthi.

After leaving service, he opened a book circulating library on

23-8-1972. It was then the bukthi ofMercury (29-2-71 to 5-6-73).
No planet in Mercury star and it is in IV, the star of Mars in IV,
owning VI & XI. The same Mercury is in the sub ofVenus in Ill (no
planet in Kethu's star) and so fully signifies ill. Ilrd house stands for
Books ofthe like.

He was doing circulation of books upto end ofJupiter period,

Jupiter is in its own star Mithunam, which stands for Books and
Jupiter being in the Sub ofSun IV, in the star ofMoon owning II in
XII tells collection ofBooks.

Got married on 1-7-1974, in the bukthi ofVenus (17-5-74 to

17-1-77), Venus is in ill and having no planet in its stars, signifies III,
Vfully.

Venus is in the star ofSun in IV owning ill. Venus is in the sub

ofJupiter, in Lagna in its own star and owns VII, no planet in VII and .
so fully signifies VII.

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 In kethu bukthi (i.e. between 11-3-88 to 20.4-88) during
October 88 , he bequeathed a big amount of money, to the tune· of
severallakhs.

Let us discuss how K.ethu is so powerful. Kethu is in Vlli in

the star ofRahu in ll is good, and it is in the Sub ofJupiter in Lagna in
its own star owning X and no planet in X.

Now I like to discuss two Horary Figures for the Nwnbers

giv~n by my friend Mr.Rajendar of Adyar and a K.P. Follower,
· regarding the purchase ofa Motor Bike (Raj Doot).

His way ofprofession is servicing (T.V. and the like) requires

a Bike to make quick movements.

In 25-8-94 he came to my room with a·quety ifhe would be

getting a particular R.ajdoot Motor Bike and gave No.68 to work out
the Hol'alj.

As usual I entrusted the Iwork to my beloved friend Mohan

and it is as follows.

No.Given68.

Reg: - Wili I get a particular Motor Bike (Rajdoot) taken up

. for working 10-45 a.m. on 25.8.94.

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 Moon X6-56-15 Xll8-56-15
2344-3 Xl8-56-15 Mars
Kethu
IX4-56-15 24-49-24 11-42-22

Saturn(R)
1548-41 I 7-20
vm ·Lagna
4-56-15
Nirayana Horary Chart
ll4-56-15
Sun8-1-31
VII 7-20 Mercury
19-36-14
Rahu 24-49-24
VI
v 8-56-15 Jupiter m14-56-15
8-56-15 15-2-48 Venus
N6-56-15 24-2-31

Place :-Chennai 13°-4'/80°-17'

Ayanamsa used:- 23°-45 ' -57" . ·

Mr.Rajendran divulged that he had already advanced some

amount, still there is something that prompts him to consult as the
owner ofthe Bike indicated that he would part with the Bike ifhis b-
in-law gives a clearance, which he expected soon and that is why this
Horary.

Mohan looks into the Sub Lord ofthe IVth cusp.

He says IV in cusp tells about the Bike now under view, and
the Xth cusp fells ifat all he will be getting a Bike (Raj Doot)to his
liking, now in thiS instance.

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 IVth cusp sub lord here is Rahu.

Rahu is in IV is good.

Rahu is in the star ofJupiter in IV is fine.

With this one is tempted to say a positive answer that he will

be getting the Bike question, as he had already advanced a sizeable
amount to the party.

But Mohan looks into the Sub lord status ofthe planet Rahu.
It is in the Sub ofMercury. Mercury is in ll and it is encouraging. But
Moon is in Mercury star and so does not signify II and Mer~ury is
stationed in the star ofVenus ·in III a complete detriment house for
such matters and emphatically told Rajendran that he fails to get that
particular Bike (Raj Doot) and it is confirmed by the sub lord ofXth
cusp. The sub lord being Rahu again through its sub lord Mercury
signifies magain a detriment.

Mr. Rajendran left me with a word that he would be meeting

me again with the results.

He again visited me on the evening of30-9-94 telling that he

failed to get that Bike and the advanced amount was returned to him.

Rajendran gave another No.l88 for Horary to find out ifthe

Bike (Rajdoot) now in his views, will be purchased by him.

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 Mohan was gracious enough to take up the working of the
Horary and it was 3 -7. p.m on 30-8-94 for the No. l88 given by
Rajendran.

Ayanamsa used 23°-45' -57".

VI2-26-59
IV 8-26-59 v 6-26-59 Mars 15-8-I 0
III 6-26-59 Kethu Moon
Vll 29-13-20
24-32-13 27-54-42

Sarturn (R)
15-24-00
II 2-26-59
Nirayana Horary
Chart Vlll 2-26-59
Sun 13-13-20
Mercury
2749-53
.
Rah24-32-13 IX 6-26-59
129-13-20 XI 6-26-59 Jup.IS-50-32 Venus
XII2-26-59 XS-26-59 29-5-31

,Cusp Sub lord

I Rahu
II Ketu
IV Jupiter
VII Sun
X Rahu
XI Mercury

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 Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Stm Mercwy Venus Satwn
Moon Saturn Satwn Venus
Mars Ketu Rahu Mercwy
Mercmy Moon K~tu Mercwy
Jupiter Venus

Now the Nth cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is in X and

placed in the star ofRahu is X. This tells immediately a failure and X
tells the Bike will not be parted with by the owner; this is stellar strength.

Now look into the sublord ofJupiter it is Venus.

Venus is in IX, in the star ofMars in VI, owing N ·& XI.

This tells he will be getting the Bike he likes, very soon, as the
lagna cusp sublord Rahu·is th~ Sub ofMercwy a very fast planet.

Mr. Rajendran carp.e on 1-9-94 in a Bike which has come to

him on 31 .8.84 itself. ·

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 1 SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
Now I take up the birth chart of one of my friend
Mr.Singaravelu, the sitting Sub Judge in Tamil Nadu Judicial
Department born on 3/4-8-1947 at 5.11 a.m at 10°-58'179'-25"
Ayanamsa:23°-6'36"

Mars0-18-50
Rahu XII 6-17
IX 3-17 X5-I7 5-38-26 Mercury
XI7-17 28-23-39

Moon I 5-19-9
Ven 9-17-22
8-50-49 Nirayana Bhava Sun 17-38-26
VIII 2-17 Chakram Sat.19-6-18
Balance in Rahu
period at
VII 5:-19-9 Yrs 15-00-20 days II 2-17

v 7-17 Jup
III 3-17
VI 6-17 Ketu 25-7-24
5-38-26 IV 5-17

Planet Suh/ord Planet Suhlord

Stm Mercwy Venus Venus
Moon Jupiter Satwn Ketu
Mars Mercwy Rahu Ketu
Mercwy Venus Ketu Meremy
Jupiter Mercwy

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 He is in Judicial Department and let us see ifhis Xth cusp is in
any way connected to Jupiter or IX in signification.

Xth cusp falls at 50- 17 in Aries.

It is ruled by Mars as Sub Lord.

Mars is in its own star in XI tells good occupational life.

But it is not connected to either Jupiter or IXth. As it is in its

own star, it signifies X & V also, that is all. Then how Judicature is
connected? Now look at the Sub lord ofMars. It is Mercury. There
are planets in Mercucy stars and so does not signify XII, But Mercury
is in the star of Jupiter placed in its own star in Libra. And further
Jupiter owns IX & VI. This amply indicates his profession as Judge.

He was running the maJor period ofJupiter from August 62 to

August 78 and bukthi of Moon from December 73 to April 75.

In this bukthi, he was elevated to the status ofDistrict MtmSiff.

How?

Moon is in the star ofRahu in X, is good. Moon is in the Sub

of Jupiter in itS own star in IV and so fully signifies VI & IX. (No
planet in VI).

So X & VI acted and he was...elevated to bench in District

level.

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 Further he was elevated to Sub Judge status on 7-3-1984. It
was the bukthi ofMercury from 27-8-81 to 6-5-84.

Mercury is in the star ofJupiter in IV in its own star duly o~g

VI (No planet in VI). So signifying IV & VI fully along with IX, and
being in the Sub ofVelms. Venus is in 1 and in the star of Saturn.
Who is also in Lagna Bhavam and rules IV & XI (No planet and
Venus star) and so elevated to a bigger status.

He was involved in an accident on 6-9-92 . it was in the bukthi

ofRahu from 6-11-92 to 16-2-95. Rahu is in X in the star ofSub in
I owning II.

Rahu is in Sub ofMercury in xll owning Xll, placed in the star

.of.Jupiter in IV, owning VI & IX.

So Rahu gets, the signification ofl & II, thro star & thro Sublord
Mercury feeble significator of XII, and full signification ofiV, VI &
IX.

Rahu is in the star of Sun in I in 17°-38'-26" with nearer

promixio/ to Saturn in 19°-6' - 18", who owns VII & VIII in cusps.

So Rahu the bukthinatha gets Vill, IV & XII in a way and so

the occurance ofaccident in this bukthi.

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 As Rahu is in the Sub of Mercury in XII placed in the Sub of
Jupiter owning IX in Pisces, So zodiacal XII.

Hence Xllth involved him in accident and his feet is seriously

affected and the infection still continues and pain persists.

I to ld him that infection will be up to the end ofRahu bukthi i.e.

March95.

Further more, I gave him a prediction that he will be elevated in

his service with the advent ofthe bukti ofJupiter i.e. February/March
95.

How? Jupiter is in IV in its own star owning VI (No planet in

VI) So Jupiter signifies IV & VI fully.

Jupiter is in the Sub ofMercury in XII. (There are no planets in

Mercury stars). Placed in the starofJupiter signifying IV & VI fully.

Jupiter thro star and sub signified. VI and so it shall elevate bini
in service, with out any disturbance, in the venue ofservice, and without
disturbance to his environmental status.

I have another Horoscope for discussion and to emphazie the

efficacy ofthe usage ofsub lord in finalising a prediction.

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 Mr. M.S. Panda was born on 6-1-1955 at 10-33-15 hrs. a.m
( Rectified by me) place of birth Aska, in Oriss a 19o-36-50"
84°-40-lS"E. '

Ayanamsa : 23°- 13-17"

Planet Suhlord Planet Suhiord

Sun . Jupiter Venus Mercury
Moon Ketu Saturn Mercury
Mars Moon Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mars Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Rahu

Asc. ni6°'43'26 IV 2°43 '26"

I 1°3 ' 16" . · II
¥oon Ket.ll 0 '54'5"
6°'43 ' 26" 2 00' 15'20"
M 0°20 ' 48" V 2'?43' 26"

Ju2°58'42"
Nirayana Bbava Vl25°43 '26"
Chakram
Moon Period Balance
XII
Y2-4-21 days
25°43 ' 26 "

Mer.2 l054'37" Saturn

XJ27°43'26" Venus 25°34'40"
Sun21°34'56" VII
6°44'4" Vlll 1°3' 16"
Ra 11 °54 ' 5"
IX6°43'20" 6°43 '26"
X2°43'26"

Mr. Panda was running the major period ofRahu from April' 64
toApril'82.

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 Rahu in X, in the star ofKetu in IV, This teUs fourth h.ouse
matters (educational life and connected matters).

Rahu is the Sub ofMercury, in XI ( no planet in Mercury star)

and placed in the star of Sun in X. (No cusp in Leo). So fully
signifies XI, X, IV & VII.

So it is a fine period, to give him education and service too,

Actually he passed out M.Sc ., (Maths) in 1978 in this period ofRahu
and in the bukthi of Venus between December 75 and December 78.

Venus is IX, in the star of Saturn in VIII duly owning XII, so

signifies Vill & XII. then how it gives him service in this bukthi of
Venus.

Now look into the Sub lord ofVenus. It is Mercury, placed in

XI (No planet in Mercury Star). duly placed in the star ofSunin x (
·No cusp in Sun's rasi Leo) So well employed.

From April82 to April98, it is the major period of Jupiter.

Jupiter is 1n V, in its own star, and so fully signifies V, I, X & XL

Jupiter being in the Sub ofRahu signifies IV (being placed in

Ketu star) and Ketu stands for Mercury in XI.

So this period of Jupiter is rendered good; duly giving him

educational success, maritial life, children and good service.

He got married on 4-7-1983. Then it was the bukthi of Juptter

(Apri l 82 to June 84).

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 How Jupiter gives him marriage?

Jupiter is in the sub ofRahu, placed in the star ofKetu in IV

(MITHUNAM) and so as node Ketu fully stands of Mercury. Hence
VIth matter also comes in thro ' sub strength. ·

He passedAMIE in Chemical Engineering during 1984. The

same bukthi lord JUPITER is in the sub ofRahu, who is in the star of
Ketu in IV & so educational prosperity.

For bettering his prospects he changed his service and joined

Indian Rare Earths on 10-4-1985, when it was Saturn bukthi running,
in Jupiter Major period Saturn bukthi from June 1984 to December
1986. Saturn is VIII, in the star of Jupiter in V. Then how better
·service he could change to. Now look into the sub lord ofSaturn. It
is Mercury Mercury is in XI (No planet in Mercury stars) and is in
the star ofSun in X. So thro sub lord Saturn gets XI & X signification.
Hence elevation in this bukthi, and got better job.

As the sub lord Merc ury is a D ual planet, placed in a Dual

house ( Dhanus) he was obliged to change his job for still more better
prospects on 12-6-1986. by joining as Senior Engineer in Pradeep
phosphates Ltd., inthe same Saturn bukthi.

Got a daughter on 24-9-1984. It was then Saturn bukthi

(June 84 to Dec.86) Saturn in the star ofJupiter in V and thro' sub
lord Mercury signifies XI, IV, V & VII. Here Saturn gets the matter
V & thro' sub V & XI. So a child in this bukthi.

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 Got another child (Son) on 19-4-92. Now it is the bukthi of
Venus. (January 90 to September 92). Venus is in IX , in the star of
Saturn in VIII owning XII. But Venus inthe Sub of Mercury in XI. (
No planet in Mercury stars) owning IV, V VII So thro sub lord'
Venusthe bukthi lord signifies V & XI.

He purchased a piece ofland for Housing purpose on 15-6-

1993. Then it was the bukthi ofMoon, in its own star in Ill, a detriment
house for such a mat ter, But being in the sub ofKethu, in IV duly
representing Mercury, a full significator ofXI, rv, fourth house matter
comes in.

He was found to suffer from Diabetes on 12-10-93 And also

attacked by Jaundice which was detected on 8-10-94. These two
dates fall between 9-6-93. to 9-10-94. which is the bukthi ofMoon
in Jupiter Major period. It also indicates by the native of this
horoscope that he is suffering from respiratory problem from 7-7-
1994.

Let us discuss Moon & how it is connected to illness stated as

above.

Moon is in III in its own star and no planet in its star duly
owns) VI in cusp and no planet in VI. This tells that it is the period
ofillness and Moon alone is fully signifying the illness matters ofVIth.

Moon is in the sub ofKetu in IV, in Gemini and owns VI in

cusp in Cancer this tells these diseases.

He will have still suffering from illness even up to Mars bukthi

in Dec. 95 as Mars is in the sub ofMoon, a full significator ofVI.

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 He will be completely free from ill health only with the advent
ofRahu bukthi in from December 95, as Rahu is in the Sub ofMercury
a full significator ofXI & V.

Rahu bukthi is from December'95 to April98. Rahu is in X, in

the star ofKetu in IV and it is in the Sub of Mercury in XI and no
planet in Mercury star so fully signifies XI and IV. I am sure he will
take up construction of his house and fini sh he same in that bukthi
itself

Current period is that ofJupiter up to April 98 and it signifies

IV fully, So it is felt no foreign service up to April 98.

Next major period ofSaturn from December 98 for 19 years.

Saturn is in vm and owns XII, and is in the star ofJupiter in V

& so signifies V & I fully. it is stell ~ signification and it is not
encouraging fo r material prospects.

But Saturn is in the Sub of Mercury Mercury, as already

discussed, fully signifies XI & XI and so I am ofoplnion Saturn period
will bring him immense luck duly enhance him to the status ofVIP in
his realm ofactivities.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
I append here under, the birth chart ofone Mr. N.S.R a Railway
Employee, born on I 0-3 -1943, at 9-00 p.m 1ST at Coimbatore
11 °-00177°-0(}
Ayanamsa 23°-3-15"

VII vm
Venus 3°57' IX2°57''
3°47'45"
23~'33 " Jup iter(R)
Moon Saturn
Vl3°57'' 130J0'20" 22"7 '45"
1'1'48'45''
Sun 26°8'30"
Mer. 6°5'48"
Nirayana Bbava X 1°57''
V ~57''
Ketu 0°48'09 Cbakram
Balance in Venus
Mars period at birth Rahu
8°36'24" 10 Y - 6 M - 16 days 0048"49"
IV 1°57'' Xl2°5T'

Ill 2°57" II 3°57" 1 3°47'1 5'' XII3°37''

Pla11et Sublord Planet Sublord

Stm Ketu Venus Moon
Moon Rahu Saturn Rahu
Mars Venus Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Saturn

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 The native ofthis Horoscope is well at playing on FLUTE. Let
us discuss how his Vth cusp portrays the same.

The sub lord ofthe Vth cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of
Mercury in V tells artistic faculty and further Mercury is in Airy sign
and so Flute. As the same Venus is in the Sub of Moon, duly placed
in the star of Venus in Pisces, being in short Ascession, Flute is
confinned.

If the same Venus were to be in long ascession, it would be

Nadaswaram or Clarinet.

He lost his eye sight in his age of eight what h~ tells. It was
then Venus period. Let us see ifVenus can make him blind. Venus is
in VI, in the star ofMercury in V, owning Xll, Venus is in the sub of
Moon, again placed in the star ofVenus in VI owjng Vlll. This tells
danger and illness. ·

I surmise he should have lost his eye sight in Mercury bukthi in

Venus period. Mercury is in V, in the star of mars in IV owing II
stands for eyes) Mercury is the Sub Moon. placed in the star of
Venus in VI, owning Vlll. This tell s some serious matter for his
eyes.

He was given service in Railway as an handicapped person

during 1984 only. When worked out it was the major period of
Mars from September '79 to September 86. And further working
the bukthis, I found it was Mercury bukthi from March 83 to April
84. If we analyse, (Mercury happens, to be in the sub of Moon,
owing X, in the star ofVenus in VI. Got married by December 1985.
It was then Mars period and Sun bukthi. ( 22-10-85 to 28-2-86).
Let us discuss Sun.

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 Sun is in V, in the star ofJupiter in IX and so signifies ill &IX.
Sun is in the sub ofKetu placed in the star of Mars, owing II & VII.

One K..P. enthusiasist from Nanganallur, Chennai approached

me for clarification regarding some event in Mr. Ravi's horoscope, It
was that there was no indication of illhealth in the period (Buk.thi)
then running, but he was seriously affected in health.

Using the sub lord I proved how bukthi well portrayed the ill
health. It is as under Mr. R.avi is born on 8-2-195~, at 4-20 a.m 1ST
at Madras 13°-4/80°-17' Ayanamsa 23°-15' -48"

Ketu 0-49-45 Sun 13-18

VU26-44 IX Mar. 13-35-3
VIII 26-9
Moon 26-9 X 25-9
Venus
10-39-53 Mer.27-41-53
27-42-11

XI
VI Nirayana Bhava 26-1
27-9 Cbakram
Balance in Satun
period Jup20-7-39
v Saturn
26-9 Yrs .8 -6 -28 days
26-27-30
Xll27-9
II 26-9 I
IV III 2644
Rahu
25-9 26-9 As c.
0-49-45

Let us first discuss how R.avi was seriously ill on 26-10-93.

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 What is the major dasa then on 26-10-93, It was that ofJupiter
fromApril88 to April2004. How is Jupiter, Jupiter is in X owning I
& N no planet is Jupiter shows that it fully signifies X and fully I &
IV. Jupiter is in the star ofRahu is X as node Rahu acquires the
strength of its Rasi lord Venus and so VI also. Jupiter is in the sub of
Rahu in X in its own star and so signifies X fully along with VI.

General luck is very good in this period along with VI house

matters i.e., sickness. On the date 26-10-93 it was the bukti of
Mercury ( from-30-12-92 to 6-4-95) The K.P. enthusiastic was happy
when I discussed Mercury.

Mercury is in 1agna in the star of Sun in II. This does not tell
sickness. Mercury is in the sub ofVenus in lagna in the star of Sun in
ll signifies II & I But as Venus has no planet in its~ it fully signifies
VI & so serious sickness as I & VI is connected here as our Late
Guruji too often told that connected to VI will end in sickness seriously.
The enthusiastic was happy to see how the sub lord alone portrays
real position thought the stellar strength reveals nothing about ill health.
Mr. Ravi, got married on 3-2-83. It was then the bukthi ofVenus in
Rahu period ( Venus bukthi from 18-11-81 to 18-
11-84) Let us see how Venus is connected to the marriage
signification. Venus is in lagna and owns VI (No planet is VI and
Venus stars also) So it signifies I & VI fully otherwise. How then the
marriage made possible in a bukthi fully signifying VI which is a fully
detriment for marriage.

Now look in the sub lord ofVenus. It is in its own sub and no
planet in its star and so it signifies VI & XI fully and further XI is an
antidote to VI and cancels the lord of VI.

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 Venus is in star of Sun in II is good for marriage and XI is
connected toll. Venus and Mercury in the same sub ofVenus and
Mercury in the same sub ofVenus i.e. Mercury in 8°-4 in makara and
Venus ~-3 5" in makara. Mercury owns Vllth cusp. so here there is
sub continuation II, Vll & :XI.

Now I take up the horoscope of a big politician the birth

particulars has been taken from a big Astrological journal. The
anthenticity ofwhich I am not 100% sure As I want to explain status
and how in strength ofplanets is latent and how it gives strength to the
periods to make him No.1 in Bharat Desa.

He was born at 1-12 Noon 1ST on 28-6-1921 at 18°-28'

N.L/79°-6 LongitudeAyanamsa being 22°-44' -47"

Ketu 0-49-45 SlD113-18

VD2644
Vill26-9 IX Mars 13-35-3
Moon
Venus 26-9 X 25-9
10-39-53
27-42-11 Mer.27-41-53

VI27-9 XI
Nirayana Bhava
26-1
Chakram
Balance in Satun
period Jup20-7-39
Saturn
V26-9 Yrs.8 -6-28 days
26-27-30
. Xn27-9

II26-9 I
N25-9 Ill 26-9
Rahu 26-44
049-45 As c.

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 Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Mercury Venus Moon
Moon Stm Saturn Kethu
Mars Mercury Rahu Mercury
Mercury Venus Ketu Venus
Jupiter Jupiter

He had attained the status ofNo.1 in India it was then R<iliu

Bukthi in Mars period.

What is Mars in the birth chart.

Mars is in IX.

Mars in the star ofRahu is lagna Bhava

Mars is a significator ofl. It is good as for it goes. Ofcourse

it tells some status for the native look at sub ofMars. It is Mercury.

Mercury owns I & X.

Mercury is in X no planet in Mercury star and so signifies, I &

~fully. Further more Mercury tenants Jupiter star and Jupiter is in
XI and si~es so XI full. So Mars for Kanya lagna) considered by
traditionaiAstrology so seriously hannful planet, gets I X, XI more
powerful and high signification through sublord strength to the extent
ofelevating him to No. In India. You can note how sub lord works
in a subtle manner.

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 He was elevated to this status in Rahu bhukthi. Let us discuss
Rahu, Rahu is lagna in the star of Mars in IX ( IX is good for
enthronement). Rahu is in the sub ofMercury in X and own I & X.
(No planet in Mercury star) So signifies I & X it is fine and is placed
in the star ofJupiter in XI.

So elevated in this bukthi of Rahu. In the interest to make

understand the Students ofK.P. I am discussing here under and assess
the strength ofeach planet under the sub lord strength.

Sun:- Sun owns XII in IX in the starofRahu in lagna stellar

wise is good, as it derives lagna strength it is multiplied
by sublord strength ofl & X, XI having been placed in
the sub ofMercury. So good.

Moon :- Moon is in the VI No Planet in Moon star and so fully

signifies VI & XI.

Moon is in the star of Saturn in XI & so V & XI Moon

is in the sub of a sun significator oflagna having been
placed in the star ofRahu in Lagna- Good.

Mars :- Mars in IX in the star ofRahu in lagna and in the sub of

Mercury a full significator ofl, X & XI- Good.

Mercury:- Mercury is in X and no planet in Mercury stars so fully

signifies I & X being in the star ofJupiter, XI & IV also.

Mercury is in the sub ofVenus and so signifies IX and

XII: bad.

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Jupiter :- Jupiter is in XI in the star ofVenus in VIII & signifies II &
vm.
Jupiter is in the sub of its own, again VII & II It is mixed.

Venus :- Venus is in the star of Sun in IX & so signifies IX & XII

fully.

Venus is the sub of Moon and so signifies VI & XI (no

planet in Moon star)

Moon is in the star of Saturn in XI & so XI & V also

good.

Saturn :- Saturn is in XI, in the star ofVenus in Vill & so signifies

VIII & II. Saturn in the sub ofKethu and so signifies VII
fully bad.

Rahu :- Rahu is in lagna in the star ofMars in IX and so signifies

IX & mfully Rahu is inthe sub ofMercmyand so signifies
I,X & XI - Good.

Kethu :- Kethu is in its own star and so signifies VII fully. Kethu
is the sub ofVenus and so signifies DC & VII -Bad.

From the above the student's may note that. out of9 planets
only Ketu, Saturn and Mercury are bad and the rest are good.

So the majority ofthe planets being good they have aided the
native to climb up to the post ofPJ~~:.<'>flndia, during Mars period.
;• • I

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
rt I
Today I have taken up the birth chart ofone Mr. N., Inspector
ofPolice, Tamil Nadu, when I first met him. he was in the near circle
ofthe then DGP Sri.B.P.Rangasamy.

AsicameoutoftheroomoftheDGO,hewaswaitingoutside
and gave me his Horoscope in traditional style and I asked him to
come on the next day so that I could cast it wtder Placidisu system.

He came the next day and I handed over his horoscope in

Placidious way & the particulars are as under.

He was born
. at 5-31.am.
. IST on 5-1-1964 at Chennai 13°-
04/80°-17'. Ayanamsa 23°~20' -50"

Balance in Sun period at birth years 3 months 11 days 8.

Jupiter vn
1746-10 v 12-11-37 VI9-11-37 5-12-13
Nll-11-37 Rahu
17-47-10

ill8-11-37 VIII
5-11-37
Nirayana Bhava Chart
Balance in Sun period .
Sat27-29-l0 3 Yrs. 11 Months 8 Days
'
Ve2l-45-l0
115-ll-37
IXS-11-37
Mars·~l3-10

Su20-19-10
Mercury{R) xn XI Moon
19-21-10 9-11-37 12-11-37 1-15-10
;Ket17-47-10 X 11-11-37
ll5-12-13

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 Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Jupiter Venus Venus
Moon Jupiter Saturn Jupiter
Mars Rahu Rahu Stm
Mercury Rahu Kethu Mars
Jupiter Mercury

It was really happy for me to see his Xth cusp fell on Kanya
11-11-37 ruled by mars as sub lord- I have already mentioned that
he is a Inspector ofPolice. Mars is in Lagna in the star ofSwt a royal
planet & in the sub ofRahu in VII its own star, duly representing
Mercury in Lagna in Dhanus duly signifies VI & XI.
. '

So service in Police department.

< ~e joined police service in the major period ofRahu, buk.thi of

Rahu, Anthra of Moon, on 6-5-1987 on Wednesday.

As I was telling him that his horoscope tallies well in terms of

his service and joining date, Mr. Mohan who was all along with me
and DGP, intervened and told him that he has medical knowledge.

To my surprise, he accepted that he has good knowledge in

administering medicines (HOMEO) since his joining police service,
as he studied the same separately.

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 Mr. Mohan also explained how the Nth cusp sub lord is Moon
and has connection to'Sun thro' star IX & thro sub IV fully, and
added that he will become and adept in Medicine as Jupiter has no
planet in its star, and placed in IV, as IX & IV is connected.

He told me that he got married on 5-12-1993 & it was a Friday.

It was then the period ofRahu, bukthi ofMercury and anthra

of Mercury.

Let us discuss Rahu.

Rahu being in its own star in Vll, signifies Vll, being in the sub
ofSun, signifies n VI & XI. Here their is a good combination ofVll,
II, VI & XI. Mercury is in lagna and owns VII.

So marriage took place in Mercury bukthi and Mercury anthra.

I found the date ofMarria~e was in the sookshama of Mars

(30-1-93 to 8-2-93)

How Mars is connected to marriage? .

Mars is in lagna bhava and owns V & XII. Mars is in the star
ofSun in lagna owning IX Mars is in the sub ofRahu a full significator
ofVII.

The inspector wanted to knowifhe would own a house during

1994.

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 Mohan started discussion Mercwy bukthi ifit can bring a house
for him. mercury signifies I & IX thro star and vn thro sub. So no
owning a house in this bukthi.

Then he took up Ketu bukthi (from 13-6-95 to 1-7-96) Ketu

is in the star ofVenus in II, owning VI & XI and in the sub ofMars in
I, owning V & XII; duly placed in the star of Sun in I owning IX
(Moon in IX)

So Kethu also ruled out.

Then Mohan took up Venus bukthi ( 1-7-96 to 1-7-99) Venus

is in II, in the star ofMoon in IX owning VIII.

And Venus in the sub ofits OWn & so again IX & VIII.

II & IX will make you to make serious attempt for getting a

house only. But actually no purchase could be made.

Then Sun bukthi (from 1-7-99 to 25-5-2000) Sun is in lagna.

&owns IX.

Sun is in the star ofVenus in II, owning VI & XI. Houses IX,
II & XI tells about owning a 'house. This is stellar strength.

SWl is in the sub ofJupiter in IV owner ofIV and no planet in

its stars and so fully signifies IV., and Jupiter is in the star ofMercury
in I owning X & no planet in X.

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 Mohan told him that he would own a house duly parting with
Some house hold jewelleryas ~th cusp sub lord is Mars, owning V in
in
the star of Sun in I and subofRabu Vlt; and connected to Xand
represents Mercury ih the star ofVenus in II. ··,

Mr.Ravi a close friend of Mr. Mohan his birth nativity is

discussed here below:-

His date of birth is 28-10-1962 and the time ofbirth is 11-20

a.m. 1ST. Place ofbirth is Chennai 13°-40" I 80°-17"

IV2-26-35 v 1-26-35 _vn

VI27-26-33 . 23-41-00

III29-26-35. Rah 10-47-8

Jupiter(R) Nirayana Bhava Mars 14-51-43
9-29-51 VID23-26-35
Chakram
1123-26-35
Balance in Rahu
Saturn period at birth
IX29-26-35
ll-43-19 Yrs.l6-8-13days
Ket.I0-47-8

I Xll27-26-35 Sun 11-0-4

23-41-00 Venus(R) Moon Mercury
3-47-00 . 7-37-39 24-25-42
XI 1-26-35 X2-26-35

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 Pla11et Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Saturn Venus Satmn
Moon Rahu Saturn Mars
Mars Rahu Rahu Sun
Mercury Rahu Kethu Moon
Jupiter Jupiter

Mr. Ravi was born in Dhanus lagna at 23-41 & it is ruled by

Saturn as sub lord.

Saturn is in lagna in the star of Moon in X owning VIII. No

planet in Vlll.

Saturn is in the sub ofMars in VII, Mars is in the star ofSaturn

inLagna

So there is a strong combination of VIII thro star and I thro

sub. Hence it is final that the native is well promised with a longivity
_ that side of66 years as lagna cusp sub lord signifies I & VIII thro its
sub lord.

Why I discussed the strength oflagna only is to tell the student

that longivity is seen only by the strength oflagna alone and also for
one more argument by Mr. Gopi.

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 Mr. Gopi the student ofMohan was critically arguing with him
when Mr. Ravi wa5 running the major period ofJupiter, which signifies
VII thro its star lord Rahu & thro its own sub again Vll.. Is not VII a
bhadaka and maraka for Dhanus lagna?

Mohan was adament in not explaining his student Gopi strongly

and gave him a counter question why all these who receive payments.
( it is sure payments are there and the native should be ~ing lind
signification a maraka house then) do not die at once on these days.

Gopi could not catch it. it was well p::>inted out that the longivity
is to be assured thro lagna cusp sub lord as explained above and any
period corning before the assessed qate will not trouble his life and
on the contrary money will be paid only. IfVII operates marriage
only and not death as all do not die on the day ofhis marriage.

This should be borne in mind by all students while offering

predictions.

Mr. Ravi got marri~d on 8-8-9~. it was Jupiter period, Rahu

bukthi Saturn anthra and Kethu sookshama.

Let us discuss what Jupiter says.

Jupiter is in the star ofRahu in VII & being in its own sub,
again VII. So marriage is promised in Jupiter period. .Rahu bukthi is
from 17-2-93 to 11-7-95 how is Rahu?

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 Rahu is in Vll (Sun is in Rahu star) and Rahu is in the star of
Saturn in I owning II & III so Rahu fully signifies I & III.

Rahu is in the sub ofSun (No planet in Sun Star) & Sun is in
X and owns IX.

And sun is in the star ofRahu in VII. and so Rahu tbro sub
signifies Vllfully.

On marriage date, it was the Anpua ofSaturn (from 19-6-93

· to 13-11-93) Saturn is in I in the star of Moon in X Saturn is in the
sub ofMars in Vll. Placed in the star ofSaturn in I owning II & ill.

It was the sookshama ofKethu from 3-8-93 to 11-8-93 Ketu

is in lagna, in the star of Moon in X and so signifies I, VIII and X.
Ketu is the sub of Moon and Moon is in the star ofRahu in VII.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

Mr. G. is a Central Government employee and he was born

I
on 18-12-1958 at 11-45 p.m. at Hampi. 150-9"N 760-55'E
Ayanamsa 23-15-48.

The Horoscope is as under :

Planet Sublord Planet Sub/ord

Sun Sun Venus Mercury
Moon Mars Saturn Moon
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Venus

Kethu Mars X XI
25-28-55 23-20-12 25-15-8 25-15-8
VIII24-15-8 IX25-15-8
Moon 12-25-25

VII XII
24-33-40 Nirayana Bhava
24-15-8
Chakram
Balance in Saturn
VI Period I
24-15-8 6 Y - 0 M - 17 Days 24-33-40

V25-15-8 Jupiter
Venus 12-10-10 IX25-15-8 ll24-15-8
Mercury(R) 28-10-20 Rahu
Sat4-39-3l Jll25-25-8
Sun3-4-55 16-18-2 25-28-55

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 Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord
I Mercury VII Mercury
II Rahu VIII Rahu
III Mercury IX Mercury
IV Rahu X Rahu
v Mercury .XI Mercury
VI Rahu XII Rahu

He entered Government service on 18-10-82, and it was the

major period ofKethu ( 5-1-82 to 5-1-89) Let us discuss what Kethu
promises. Kethu is in VTII, in the star ofMercury in III owning II &
XI.

Kethu in the sub ofRahu a full significator ofll as Rahu is in ll

and no planet in Rahu stars. So it can be construed that Kethu has
good benefic significations.

It was the bukthi ofVenus when he entered service. Has Venus

~ything-to do with service. Venus is in IV, in the star ofKethu in VIII .
is bad. But Venus is in the sub ofMercury owning II & XI and placed
in the star Saturn owning VI and no planet in VI. S<? signifies VI fully.
. .
So he entered service in this bukthi only.

He was elevate~ to a Gazetted status during December'91.

It was then the major period ofVenus and bukthi ofVenus.

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 As discussed above Venus thro star signifies VIII fully and
thro sub lord Mercury signifies VI fully and so elevation.

He got married on 31-1-1987. It was then the bukthi of Saturn

(2-1 2-86 to 11 -1-88).

Saturn owns VII in VI in the star ofKethu in VIII and in the

sub ofMoon in VII a full significator ofVII, as no planet in its stars
and further placed in the star ofSaturn owning VII.

He came to me to know ifhe has luck to go overseas and ifso,

when?

I looked in to the Xllth cusp and it was ruled by Rahu as subloni.

Rahu is in the star of Mars, owning IX and no planet in IX.

Rahu is in the sub ofits own, and so again signifies IX. So there is a
clear indication ofhis going overseas.

As Rahu the sub lord stands for Mercury a full significator of

VI, I told him that he may be going overseas, connected to his service
preferably during Rahu bukthi i.e. between March 97 and March
2000.

- The purpose of this horoscope being included here, only to

.
bring home to the students how, Venus .
a full signifcator
.
ofVIII thro
star, could bring him a big house in its bukthi and a high status service
wise. How?

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 Venus is in the sub of Mercury in III owning II & XI and
placed in the star ofSaturn and thus signifies VI fully.

Now I take up the horoscope of Sow. Kanchana born on

31 -3/l-4-52 at 4-20 am. (Monday ffuesday) at Chennai 13°-04'I
80°-17' Ayanamsa 23 -10-47.
Mercury
25-33-47 Jup0-7-30 Moon
ill22-14-48 VI20-14-48 2-20-24
ll2().40..23
Sun 17-58-21 v 16-14-48
Venus ! .
25-44-37 VI13-t4-48
I 15-15-37
RahuS-27-12 Nirayana,Bhava
Cbakram
Balance in Mars period Keth u
XII 5-27-22
13-14-48
2 Yrs. 3Months 8 Days
VII
15-15-37
Mars Saturn
, ·xr X . 18-28-28
25-1-28
16- 14-48 20-14-48 VITI
IX22- 14-48
20-40-23

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Stm Mercwy Venus Mercury
Moon Kethu Saturn Mercury
Mars Mercury Rahu Sun
Mercury Rahu Kethu Mars
Jupiter Kethu

She got married on 19-8-88 & it was the major period of

Saturn (from 9,.7-88 for 1~ ye(U's).

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 So it was Saturn bukthi itselfwhen marriage took place Saturn
is in VII & no planet in Saturn star and so fully signifies VII. Saturn is
inthe sub ofMercury & M~::.rcury is in its own star in VI duly owning
V & VIII no planet in V Jc VIII. So Saturn get VII Signification
thro star and' II & V thro sub and so the marriage took place then.

The native attained 36 years ofAge & why the period ofJupiter
which ended by 9-7-88 did not bring about the marriage.

Let us discuss Jupiter.

Jupiter is in II and owns II & XI and so fully signifies II & XI.

It is good signification for bringing out marriage. But Why? Jupiter is
in the sub ofKethu, placed in Vliil its own star and so marri~ge
could not come up in Jupiter period. · ··

She got 2 children on 29-10-1989 and another 29-10-1991

both dates fall in Sanun bukthi.

Let us discuss how Saturn gave children. Saturn as told above,

though signifies VII, having been placed in the star ofMoon IV also.
Then how children in this bukthi?
. . . ·. .. --·-· -·
_As already stated. Saturn being placed m the sub ofMercury,
in II owning V brought about child birth also.

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 Mr. Kulothungan born at 11-50 A.M. 1ST on 26-12-1958 at
Chennai 130°4' /80°17' Ayanamsa 23-1548.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Jupiter
Moon Saturn Saturn Mars
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Moon

The birth chart is as under.

Kethu 1110-18 1V6-18

25-5-30 Mars m I0-18 Moon
16-19-49 23-35-53 / ll-5649 .

XILI
Nirayana Bhava v 2-18
2-18
Chakram
Balance in Rahu period
12 Yrs. 10 Months
XI 14 Days
2-18 VI 2-18

Ven.21-35-15
Mercury VII6-1949
Sun 10-43-18 Jup29-39-6
18-18-32 Rahu
X6-l8 VIII 10-18
IX 10-18 25-5-30
Sat5-32-29
The native of this chart got married on 19-8-1983 and it was
the bukthi ofRahu ( 16-8-1982 to 10-1-1985). Rahu is in VII, in
the star of Mars in II arid in its owns sub & so fully signifies II. Rahu
being a Node and in its own sub it fully represents Mercury a full
significator ofVII and so marriage took place in this bukthi.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 He entered service as AEE!INEB during November 1985 . It
was then the period of Saturn and bukthi of Saturn from 10-19.85 to
13-l-88.

Let us see how Saturn placed in IX is connected to give him

good service.

Saturn is in IX in the star ofKethu is Lagna & in the sub of

Mars in ll duly placed in the star ofVenus in X. So it is well connected
to the house ofprofession X, thro its sub lord.

From 1980 till the end of Jupiter period i.e. January 85, he
changed many a service why?

Jupiter owned I & X & there are planets in I & X.

Jupiter is in Vlli in its own star and so fully signifies VIII. VID
stands breaks.

Jupiter is in the sub of Moon in IV owning V & no planet in

Moon star and so IV & V. As regards to service, IV & V are
Cletriment significations.

. So, in Jupiter period he was much unsettled in his service life.

Further I take up a Horary ofdiscussion.

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 My friend Mr. D.S. came to me with a query as under: -land
to the tune of hundreds of acres, in my name will be with me for
another 20 years? My no. for Horary is 200.

I made out the Horary figure for the Number 200 at 1-50 p.m.
IST on 20-3-1995 and it is as under:

Cusp Sub lord Cusp Sub lord

I Mercury VI Mercury
II Saturn vm Saturn
III Jupiter IX Jupiter
IV Sm X Venus
v Mars XI Mars
VI Mars XII Rahu

Kethu
lll26-49-5 13-51-1 V2349-5 Vl19-49-5
Sun5-29-32 JV26-49-5

Saturn 22-59-32
II 2249-5 Vll7-46-40
Mercury
Nirayana Horary Mars(R)
13-52-1 5 Chart 19-31-1

Venus
Ayanamsa: 23°45'57" vm
26-51-3
I 21-49-5
17-46-40

Xl23-49-5 X 26-49-5
XII IX26-49-5
Jupiter Moon 19-4-41
1949-5 Rahul3-5J-l
21-33-3

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* Sub - Lord Speaks
 Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
SWl Mercury Venus Jupiter
Moon Moon Saturn Satwn
Mars Venus Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mercury Kethu Venus
Jupiter Venus

As usual I looked in to the sub lord ofLagna cusp, Mercury.

Mercury is in lagna itself, placed in the star ofRahu in IX.

IX is the signification attained by Lagna lord and in~ ofthe

query, IX is very good & this tells firmly that land cannot go away to
other as IX is the Vrayasthana for X, which is the house oflands for
the other man.

Mercury is in the sub ofits own and so again IX. it is good sign
for the matter queried in this Horary figure.

As the query is about lands, N cusp is to be looked into.

Nth cusp sublord is Sun.

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 Sun is in,II and no planet in Sun's star and so signifies II fully,
Sun is in the star ofSaturn in II and so again II.

It is good as II stands for possession for any body.

Sun is in the sub of Mercury, placed in the star ofRahu in IX.

So it tells that the said land cannot leave his hands and he
continues to own it for 20 years with no interference.

Yesterday i.e. on 1-4-95 he came and told me that the takeover

of these lands by Government had been dropped.

II .

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* Sub- Lord Speaks
 I SU B L ORD SPEAKS
l
This is one ofmy v~ous articles under the above caption,
published in this magazine from 1989.

I had made it clear in so many ofmy articles on the above

subject i.e. , sub1ord , in the other magazines also.

Whether it is a planet or CUSPAL SUBLORD these are

controlled by the relevant sublord & it significations only.

As regards to a planet, the matter is seen thro the star lord

ofthat planet and the SUB LORI) ofthat planet decides the result
& how the matter is altered & enjoyed and suffered by the native.
WhilewetakethesublordoftheCUSP(allknowtheSUBLORD
is a PLANET), we must be more care, whi le dealing with the
subject.

As told above, the CUSPAL SUBLORD is a PLANET. ·

Here we must finalise the efficiancy ofthe CUSPAL SUB LORD,
by finding out the signification ofCUSPAL sublord and any period
runs under that planet signifying that House (CUSP), effects to
·get altered in those terms.

To be more clear for the students ofK.P. I like to discuss

the following birth chart, as an example.

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Krislmamurthi Padhdhati
*
 is
It the birth chart ofMr.R. born; on 10-03-1943 at 9.00
P.MISTatcoimbatore 11°-00/77°-00Ayanasma used 230-3'-15"

Planet Sub lord Planet Su b lord

Sun Ketu Venus Moon
Moon Rahu Sat ·Rahu
Mars Venus Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Kethu · Mercury
Jupiter Saturn

Ven us 3°- 47'-1 5 3°-57" 2°-57"1X

23-9-33 VII Vlli Jupiter(R)
3°-57"VI Moon Saturn 22-745
19-48-45 13.3030
Sun26-8-30
Mer.6-548
Nirayana Bhava 1°-57" X
2°-ST'V
Ketu0-48-0 Chakram
Balance in Venus
Mars period at birth Rahu
8-36-24 Yrs.l 0-6-16 days 0-48-9
1°-5T'IV 2°-57" XI

2°-57' ASC 3°-57"

3°-57"II
III 3°-47'-15" XII

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* Sub - Lord Speaks .
 Cusp Sub lord Cusp Sub lord
I Venus VII Moon
II Sannn VIII sannn
m Venus IX Venus
IV Jupiter X Rahu
.· v . Venus XI Venus
XI Satwn XII Saturn

From birth for a time 'bound period of 10 yrs, 6 months & 1~

days, it was Venus major period. Let us discuss Venus in this nativity. ·
Venus owns lagna Cusp & is in VI, in the star of MERCURY in V &
so signifies V & XII. Venus is the sub ofMoon, placed in VII, duly
tenanting the star ofVenus in VI owning Lagna Cusp.

So this period ofVenus is taken to be a good one, as Venus

had obtained the VI in lagna signification thro sub -lord and hence a
status should have been maintained. It had not happened. Now
took in to the VI cusp sublord & find out what it has to say.

It is saturn in VIII (No planet in saturn star) & so signifies

VIII fully. Saturn in the star of Moon in VII, owning X & so Vlll
only. (Rahu in X). Saturn in the sub ofRahu, duly placed inthe star of
KETU inN. So a bad detriment for VI CUSP let us turn to the lagna
CUSP. Lagna CUSP sublord also need, a discussion. The SUB
LORD is VENUS. Venus is in VI in the star ofMercury in V and so
V & XII fully. Venus in the Sub ofMoon duly placed in the star of
Venus in VI & so VI & I. So such a period of VENUS, which it
stands VI & I Lagna CUSP maintained good signification, has given
the body some material status. but was rendered bad also the extent
ofblinding him with sudden loss ofeye sight

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*
 '•

Next period of Sun from Sep 53 to Sep 59. Sun in V & Sun
owns XI (Mars in Sun's star) Sun is in there star ofJupiter in IX & so
signifies fully IX & ill. Sun in the sub ofKetu & so signifies N & II ~
with the matter of IX & ITI, ended in IV & II under sublord, there
must be some good income for the native. It is not the case. Why?
The sub lord significators are N & ll. The sublord ofthe lind CUSP
is SATURN. Saturn-is in Vlll (No planet in Saturn stars)&
so fully signifies VIII and saturn in the star ofmoon in VII owning X
(Rahu in X). So saturn fully signifies VII & VIII. Saturn in the sub of
RAHU signifYing IV. so lind had been ~ndered vexyweak & nothing
can be expected out ofllnd Cusp. The other signification ofiV to be
discussed. The Sublord ofthe IVth CUSP is Jupiter, Jupiter signifies
III & IX fully under stellar,strength. Jupiter in the sub of Saturn in
r
VID (No planet in Saturn star) & so VII fully & Saturn in the star of
Moon in VII & so VII fully so VII & VIII fully.

Hence though sub signifies II & IV thro sub, the two houses
are rendered very weak, as explained above arid Sun signifying such
Houses, have rendered Sun period very weak & bad. In this period,
he was reduced to a street beggar & as he got the talent ofplaying on
a flute under a particular tree small changes were thrown in his hands.
Then comes the major pe~od ofMoon from Sep'59 to Sep'69 Moon
is in VII & owns. X (Rahu in X) & Saturn in Moon star. Moon is in
the star ofVenus in VI & so VI & I fully Moon, in the Sub ofRahu in
X (No planet in Rahu stars) & so X fully. Rahu in the star ofKetu in
IV & so IV also.

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 ·-
Hence in this period under stellar strength, signifies VI & I. It
is fine & under Sub lord•strength X with IV, so , this period should
have elevated him financially & materially in general. Let us see what
his Xth CUSP tells. The sublord ofthe Xth cusp in Rahu and as told
above. Rahu signifies X & IV under stellar strength. Rahu in the Sub
ofVenus, duly placed in the star of Mercury & so signifies V & XII.
Coming to IV in Cusp ofSublord, it is Jupiter, Jupiter in his own star
in IX & owns IV & so IX & III, as no planet tenans Ill.

Being in the Sub of Saturn in VIII (No planet in Saturn Star)

signifies Vill fully. Saturn being in the star ofMoon in Vll signifies
Vll also. So summing up. this period ofMoon has detriment faculties
only. as the Sub significations of Moon are rendered very very weak
as discussed above. So in Moons period he continued to be a begger,
as told above. Then comes the major·period of Mars from Sep 69 to
Sep 76. Mars is in the star of Sun in V. Owning XI (No planet in
XI). So V & XI. Mars in t he sub ofVenus in VI. duly placed inthe
star ofMercury in V owning IX & XII (Jupiter in IX) & so V & XII
fully.

So MARS period shall be deemed to be a vecy bad period, as

per star signification ofV & ~· ~d thro Sub signification ofV and
XII. As V & XII is dominant, he should suffer dire peruny, in this
period ofMars, But actually he is taken in railway as a class IV staff,
as handicapped person under rehabilitation policy ofdowntrodden
·&poor, with the advent of Mars period. Th~ sub. ly1ars signifies V
& XII. What does Vth cusp sublord tells? It is Ve~us.

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 Venus is in VI (There is Moon in Venus star ) So does not
signify VI. And Venus inthe Venus in the sub of Moon, owning X
duly placed inthe star ofVenus in VI & so VI & I. Corning to Xllth
CUSP, the sublord is Saturn. Saturn signifies VIII fully along with
VII.

But Saturn in the Sub ofRahu in X (No planet in Rahu stars)

&soX fully.

So the sublord strength ofMars being V & XII, have attained

VI I & X under Cuspal strength, Hence in result. From the state of
beggary, dragged into a life ofdecency in social life, with a Railway
service. Next he is in the major period ofRahu from Sep 76 to Sep
94. Rahu in X, no planet in Rahu star & so X fully. Rahu in the star of
Ketu in IV & so IV also fully Rab.u in the Sub ofVenus, duly, placed
in the star of Mercury in V owning IX ?& XII (Jupiter in IX ) & so
signifies v & xn fully.

So discuss the Vth Cusp & assess the strength. Vth Cusp
sublord is Venus, Venus signifies V &XII, thro star and signifies VI &
I, as it is in the Sub of Moon duly placed inthe star of Moon. XII
Cusp sublord is saturn. Saturn signifies Villth fully along with VII
and begin in the Sub ofRahu, signifies X fully along with IV As the
relevant Cuspal Sublords point to X, VI & I fully, Rahu period
continued him in profession, service, as a result ofthem ~ial status
also.

Jupiter is in IX, in its owns star and so IX & ill fully.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Now he is in the major period of Jupiter from Sep 94 for 16
years. Jupiter on the Sub of Saturn. & so signifies VIII & VII. These
sublord significations of VIII & VII, does not point to a life with
person stability & a social status. But he Sublord ofthe VIIIth Cusp
is saturn & so ~t signifies VIII & VII & thro its sublord Rahu signifies
X &IV. And the sub lord of the VIIIth Cusp is Moon. Moon is in
vn in the star ofVenus in VI & so VI & I. And Moon in the sub of
'
a
Rahu & so X & IV. X & IV and X & IV gives him good domestic
happiness and good re occupational status also.

It is a true history ofa individual whom I know personality &

ling power. The articles is written only to shop that a period gives
strictly in terms of its star and sublord significations, duly prw1ed by
the real strength of the relevant CUSPAL positior, connected to the
planetary sublord signification. coming to his eye matters, ifone turns
to II & XII in CUSPAL position, that stands for both eyes, you will
find bad significations for both the CUSPS.

Let me discuss this. lind Cusp sublord is Saturn, Saturn is i~

VIII, no planet in Saturn stars, so fully signifies VIII, Saturn in the star
of Moon in VTI & so VII also. Saturn inthe Sub of Rahu & so
signifies X & IV. So the lind Cusp has detriment signification ofVIII
& IX; VII & X cannot help the matter (II for right eye & genernlly for
both eyes). XIIth Cusp sublord is saturn again. As discussed it is
Vill & IV; Vll & X. The same result for left eye. Hence in blindness.

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 Finally, I like to bring to the knowledge of the students ofK.P.
that the Sub lord of planet tells the fructification of certain matters,
shown by the Sublord & the result either good or bad in terms of the
signification of the sublord. The quality & quantity of the result is
simply assessed thro the signification attained by the Sublord of the
planet ruling the relevant CUSP. This is final in KRISHNAMURTHY
PADDHATHl

At this Juncture I like tb advice the students of K. P. to please

read the matter given in the lectureofMr.N. Mohan on 31.05.97 at
the International astrological conference by Mr. Mittal at Chandigarh
on 31.05.97 and 10.06.1997 where Mr. Mohan dwelt on the above
subject separately & very clearly.

By reading this, the students will be cleared of the interaction

on this subject matter, altogether, the Souvenir available with MR.
HARIHARN, the IIIrd son of our great "GURUll SRI K.S.K." and
I

also with MR. Ml'ITAL'at CHANDIGARH.

I am of fmn opinion that the students will not miss reading the
same to have a clear vision of the above subject. I thank very much
the EDITOR Sri. K. SUBRAMANIAM for allotting space in this
esteemed magazine. K.P. &ASTROLOGY.

.* Sub- Lord Speaks 148

 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
This time I am discl!ssing the birth of my friend Mr.
l
Parthasarathy of Chrompet.

Born at 5-55a.m . 1ST on 24/25-3/1952 at Bombay

11 °-55 '17 2°-54. Ayanamsa: 23°-10'47"

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Moon Venus Venus
Moon Moon Saturn Mercury
Mars Mercury Rahu Moon
Mercury Jupiter Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Saturn

Jup. 281l28' 28'" m v

Mer. 27'14'27" ll2o:1'4 1" 30]'4 1' '
24'13'41"
Sun II cry' 16"' N21Jl3'41 "
Moon 008' 43"
Ascendant
I 26°1 '30" VI
"Ven.11l1 1'30" Nirayana Bhava 2:203 '41 " -
Rahu 5°49' 16" Chakram
Balance in Jupiter
period Kethu
XII22°3'41" 5°49'16"
3 Y- 9 m - 25 days
VII
26°1'30"

Mars
X29'13'41" Saturn
X124°3'41 25°17' 13"
IX3°3'4l/ 19'11'8"
Vlll2o:l'41"
i '
..

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 He was running the major period of Mercury from January75
to January 92. In this period he was doing independent business life
and is went on very well.

-
Let us discuss Mercury Significance.

Mercury is in I, in its own star & so fully signifies I, V. Mercury

is in the Sub of Jupiter, signifying I & XI. Sub lord signification of
Mercury that is I & XI. had given him good status in society and high
income.

All through this period he was rising from one standard of

financial status to another.

His peak period in his business life was from 1984 to 1989.

Then he was running the bukthi of Rahu and Jupiter when he

made very good money. Rahu is in x:n, in the star of Mars in VII &
Mercury owns II, X. Rahu is the sub of Moon and so signifies I &
XI. Stellar signification of ll & X has been boosted by Sub lord
signification II & XI and he made high income.

Then Jupiter is in Lagna Bhava, in the star of~ercury in Lagna

and so fully signifies I & V. Being in the Sub of Saturn, signifies I & .
VI. What financial status he got in Rahu, he will maintain in Jupiter
bukthi.

It was Saturn bukthi in Mercury period from May 89 to January

92.

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 Saturn is in VII, in the star ofMoon in I & in the sub ofMercury
in I, in its own star and own.s V & VITI. There is a planet in Vill & so
I & V only. The lagna sigrification, well maintained his status but the
V one gave him financial deplition. Bank Account went down. Faced
lot of trouble from business quarters.

Then he started the major period of Ketu from 20.1.1992 and

it is for 7 years.

With the advent ofKetu he faced serious financial trouble.

Let me discuss, Ketu.

Ketu is in VI, in its own star, and so fully signifies VI. VI tells
high flow and bank balance soreing up.

Then how.

Ketu of course full significator of VI, this is the matter. VI

when connected to benefits, there will be bank balance going up.

If on the reserve, that is if connected to bad sub lord, the same

VI iii matter will be converted to running after debts.

It happened so in this person's life.

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 Here in the birth chart, Ketu is in the sub ofRahu duly placed
in the star of Mars in VITI and so VI is transformed to VIII, and there
was fmancial depletion. And then trouble started and with the advent
of Venus bukthi in by June 92, matters have become too bad, let him
completely close his business.

Why? Let us discuss Venus.

Venus is in Xll and no planet in Venus star and so fully signifies

XII, HI & IV.

And Venus is in the star of Rahu in XII.

These signification tell matters. It matters nothing.

Look in to the Sublord. It is Venus itself and so it gets the

signification ofXII, IV fully. So the position has reached the status of
gloom and he has no other alternative then to close the entire show in
this bukthi iT'l the beginning itself.

In 17-8-93 he restarted the business happily. What is the period

then? It is the b_ukthi of Sun from 17-8-93 and Sun is in the star of
Saturn in VII and in the sub of Moon, a full significator I & XI.

Now the native is questioning me, ifhe has wilful getting a very
huge amount.

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 I worked out and it is the bukthi of Rahu froin 20-12-94 to 8-
1-96. I di scussed Rahu and it is in XII, in the star of Mars in VIII,
owning II and X.

And Rahu is in the sub of Moon, a full significator of I & XI. I

told him though he cannot get to the full of20 Lakhs but to some
extent; as bukthi is powerful but has not Dasa lord Ketu, as discussed
in the beginning.

Coming back I like to discuss his marriage date which fell on

18 ~6-8~. Then it was th e bhukthi Rahu ( 17-7-84 to 5-2-87). Rahu
is in XII in the star of Mars in VITI owning II, IX & X., in the sub of
Moon duly signifying I & XI. As node Rahu represents Saturn in
VII. So aJ I told there is continuation of II, IX, VIII, XI & VII. So
marriage during Rahu bukthi.

Then he got a child on 18-12-89 and it was Saturn bukthi

from 11-5-89 to 20-1-94. Saturn is in VII in the star of Moon in
lagna and so signifies I & VI. It is sub lord Mercury in I is in the star
owning V, and no planet in V. So Saturn get full signification of V and
so a child in that bukthi.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

I rake up the Horoscope of Mr. Snehasish Dos of Calcutta-9

I
forclis o :ssion.

He wa<; born at 7-15 p.m. on 12.7.1956 at 22°-34'/88°-24'.

Ayanamsa; 23.14.8.
IV 1°46" Mercury
Ke.l2°35'30" 18<1'23'41"
ill2°46'
v 26°46" VI21°46"
Ven.2~' 1 3'50" Sun 26°56'42"
Sun 26-8-30
Mer. 6-5-48 vu
Nirayana Bhava 19041'52"
241-S'r'V
Ketu0-48-0 Chakram
Balance in Sun
period at birth Jupiter
I 19°4 I ' 52" 5 Y- 4 M- 13 days 7039'24"
Vll21l46'
Moon 2804'7"
XI 26°46"
Ra. I 20)5'30''
Xll21°46" IX2°46"
Sat.( R) 3° 11 ' 41 "
X 1°46" I
Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
Sun Venus Venus Saturn
to. 'loon Moon Saturn Rahu
Mars Mercury Rahu Mars
Mercury Moon Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Jupiter

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 The native of this birth chart wro~e to me that he is not getting
good and well paying jobs despite the fact that he is an Engineering
Graduate and Hons in Chemical Science. ·

he
Above is his birth chart and now is running the major period
of Rahu from Nov.l978 to Nov. 1996.

He alsO added that he is now in an organisation V(ith bad fmancial

conditions and with the result, his emoluments are being stagnated as
such suffering to run a big family, which he has to look after.

Let us discuss Rahu.

Rahu is in X, in the star of Saturn in X owning I & III So Rahu

is a full significator of II & X, fully and Lagna feebly.

The star lord signification is fine and why he is suffering to get a

good and paying job.

Look in to the Sublord ofRahu.

It is Mars, Mars is in Lagna, owning ID, X & XI. Then result

should be very good. Why bad again. Look in to the planets stars if
they are tenanted.

Yes, Venus is in Mrigaseersham owned by Mars and so Mars

cannot signify I, ill, X, IX. Then see the star-lord of Mars and it is in
the star of Jupiter in VII owning XII, no planet in XII.
•,

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 So the Dasa lord Rahu is in the Sub of a planet fully signifying
VII & XII. Both bad. VII, delays for any matter he takes up and
XII, status seriously affected and financially troubled.

I take up another Horoscope of Sri A.D. Advani of Bombay

for discussion.

. . 0
He was born at 2-00 P.M. on 29- 11 -54 at Bombay 18 -55'/
72°-54' .

Ayanam.sa 23-12-27.

IV5°1'34"
I Kethu
II 10')'34'' III~'I'34"
4(1 19'21"
13°55'29"

V0°1 '3 4"

Jupiter(R)
Mars 31'16'47" ·.Nirayana Bhava 6'28' 51"
Chakram VI2901'34"
Balance in Venus
xn zgo r 34" period at birth
XHf1'34" 1 Y - 6 M - 27 days.

Moon Mer2<1' 13'47"

2511J6'56"' Sun Venus (R) VII
Rahu 13''22'9" 22°19'53" 4°19'2 1''
13°55'29" IX~I'34" .Sat21°46'2"
X511 1'34" VIII HY'I'34"

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 Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
Sun Rahu Venus Saturn
Moon Mercury Saturn Jupiter
Mars Venus Rahu Venus
Mercury Sun Ket:u Mercury
Jupiter Mercury

The native of this horoscope is in service in a private firm from

20- 11-1985.

Let us see if the date has relevance with the period then. It
was Rahu Maha Dasa from 26-6-79 for 18 years and while entering
service it was Jupiter Bukthi (8 -3 -82 to 2-8-84).

Jupiter is in V and there are planets in Jupiter star and so Jupiter

does not signify V, I & X.

Jupiter is in the star of Saturn in VIII owning XI and XII. No

planet in XI and Mars is in XII. So it signifies XI & VUI only. ·

This does not tell employment.

Look in to the sub of Jupiter. It is Mercury, Mercury has no

planet in its stars and so signifies VII fu lly, along with Vlll.

Mercury in the star of Jupiter in V, owing I & X. So the X in

significator has bought him service and not to his satisfaction.

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 He had a short trip to MUSCAT on 18.1 J.94 and returned to
Bombay on 20.1 1.94 in connection with a foreign assignment and it
was a failure.

It was then Sun Bukthi ( 14-1-94 to 8-12-94).

Let us see how Sun is connected to Air Travel to foreign coantty.

Sun is in IX and no planet in its star and so signifies IX fully.

Sun is in the star of Saturn in VIII, owning XII & so XII

feebly as Mars is there.

Sun is in the sub of Rahu in X placed in the star of Venus,

owning ill & VIII (These are planets in Vll) so Sun signifies ill fully
through Sub.

So the full significator of IX and feeble significator of XII for

Sun under stellar strength has been given a support by full III
signification of Sun through sub.

So had a flight to foreign land on a very short duration and it

was a futile one as regards to profession, as there was no significations
of either VI or X though sub in Sub bukthi, which ended by
8-12-94.

Mr. Advani, the native of his birth chart is very anxious to

know if he has any job opportunity abroad.

Let us discuss Moon bukthi (8-12-94 to 8-6-96). Moon is

in X in the star of Venus in VITI and in the Sub of Mercury in VIII,
owning IV & VII. ( No planet in Mercury star). So thro Sub,

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Moon does not signify either, IX or XII to go abroad on the contrary
signifies Vlli & IV fully, a detriment signification for going aborad it
indicates that he is prone to Accident in this bukthi.

Next comes the bukthi of Mars from 8-6-96 and is up to

26-6-97.

Mars is a full significator of XII, feebly IX, as no planet tenants

its star and is in its own star. So matter is more connected to foreign
travels.

Mars is in the Sub of Venus owning ill & XII, there are planets
in VIII and no planet in III. So Venus fully signifies III. This tells
travel abroad, in terms of matter of IX & XII.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter 'in V owning I & X. So Venus

fully connected to X.

Hence there is a possibility to travel again to foreign country

for an as signment. He writes to me in his letter, that his marriage was
fixed to be celebrated in the month ofFeb._82 and was postponed
and held on 11-3-82 due to demise of his maternal grand mother. ·

Let us discuss why not celebrated during Feb.82.

It was Rahu bukthi from 26-6-79 to 8-3-82. Let us see if

Rahu.is connected to _maternal house or not.

Rahu is in X, in the star of Venus in Vill and in the sub ofVenus

and so signifies V, VI, X. Here II, VII or XI not coming in to the
scene.

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 The sub lord Venus, signifies III, fully and V fully, III & V
should have given him the status of betrothal, but cannot give him
marriage.

From 8-3-82 to 2-8-84 it was Jupiter bukthi, marriage was

postponed and held on 11-3-82: Let us see how Jupiter is connected
to marriage.

Jupiter is in V, in the star of Saturn in VID, owning XI & XII.

So Jupiter fully signifies XI and feebly V & XII.

Jupiter is in the sub of the Mercury Vill, owning IV & VII (No
planet in Mercury stars and there are planets in IV).

So Jupiter acquires the signification of VII fully.

Mercury is in the star of Jupiter again and so V fully.

Hence the VII signification sub allowed the marriage to take

place in Jupiter bukthi after 8-3-82 only.

Child was born to him on 23-5-1983. Then it is the bukthi

Jupiter from 8-3-82 to 2-8-84.

Jupiter is in V & in the star of Saturn in Vlli owning XI & XII,

(there are planets in Jupiter star and Mars is in XII). So Jupiter
signifies only VIII & XI fully ~d feebly V.

Then how child in Jupiter bukthi. Look into the Sub, It is in the
sub of Mercury.

Mercury again in the star of Jupiter in V. So V acted and there

is a child.

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l
I feel that K.P. Students are benefitted my Articles under the
above caption, and I continue the Articles for the sake of students.
But I get letters for clarification. viz. in some cases the sub lord
signifies for instance, marriage and the mauer is not at all shown by
the star lord signification, is it that we should ignore the star lord
position and signification.

Never I like to reitarate that star lord signification is as equally

important as sub lord.

Of course, the star lord might not have signified the Vllth
signification, but sub lord indicated VII and marriage concluded.
~~.

Here at such places, kindly look into the significator under star
lord, in which houses it is situ ated and it is a node, if fully presents its
house lord and its signification and it might show VII.

Ifnot, say the lord signifies, IV, which not an encouraging factor
f?r marriage and thr~ the sub lord significator of VII, marriage had
come up.

If you still probe into the matter, the IV cusp sublord and its
signification, would definitely signify VII and then only the marriage
comes up.

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 I feel I have made the matter cleat for all and particularly to the
student who queried Mr. Mohan thro letter.

Take it for granted the IVth cusp sub lord had not signified the
relevant marital houses then only comes the issue.

Then comes the rectification of the birth time and the IVth cusp
will be arranged and rearranged to signify VII and this is a surer way
of arriving at the correct birth time.

In Natal chart, the cuspal degrees are not completely

dependable.

Now, I take up the horoscope of Mr. Kannan born on

7-9-1933 at 1-28 noon IST at Alangayam 12 -4 1 I 78-39.
Ayanamsa 22-54-52.

Moon
291148'39" V 12o:32'5T' VI'P32'57" vn
- 5o:34'19"
IV ll!IJ2'5T'

IITS032'5T' VIII :
Nirayana Bha:va
Rah u4°46'40" 5032'57"
Chakram
Balance in Mercury
period Ke4°46'43"
Saturn (R)
IX80J2' 57"
1'1153'15" 0 Y - 2M - 27 Days Mer 16°58'26"
1
II 5 ~2' 57" Sun 21° 19'8"
Mars Jup. 6028'59"
XII
I 5 34'19"
11 J4058'32" X l1 o:32'57"
(}J32'5T' XI 12°32'57" Venus 27°14'6"
-.

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 He is a big business magnet and has to his credit several crores
worth business.

Let us discuss how he had risen in hi~ material life from a low
status.

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord ·

I Rahu vn · Moon
n Mercury vm Mercury
m Rahu IX Jupiter
IV Moon X Mars
v Mercury XI Saturn
VI Venus XII Venus

Planets Star lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Jupiter Venus Jupiter
Moon Saturn Saturn Mercury
Mars Ketu Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Ketu Mars
Jupiter Mercury

In this birth chart, lagria cusp sub lord isRahu, Rahu is in II. in
the star of Mars in XI, owning V & XII. ( Nq planet in V & xm and
so fully signifies XI, V & XII.

Rahu in the sub of Venus in X, placed in the star of Mars in XI.

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 So this has given him a lucky life with prowess at) Mars is in the
scene. Very bold in action and a fighter. This telJs a Poomayush over
66 years definite

It was Venus period from Nov. 40 to Nov. 50.

It was a very ordinary period and he had no much material

status. Let us discuss Venus. Venus is in X in the star of Mars in XI
& Venus owns VI & XI, but nothing to tell about his material status
why?

Venus is in the sub of Jupiter in IX (no planet in Jupiter star )

and so fully signifies XI and further. Jupiter is in the star of Sun in IX,
owning IX. So not at all enjoyed with good professional life. No
good earnings.

Next came his Sun period from Nov.60 to Nov. & 66 Sun is in
the star of Venus in X, owning VI & XI. Matter is good. But sub is
in the sub of Jupiter in IX, placed in the star of Sun in IX .

This period also did not give him rise in material life despite the
fact, star lord signification is very very good. He was just average,
with ordinary profession.

Then the period ofMoon from Nov. 66 to Nov.76 Moon owns

Vlli and is in IV, placed in the star of Mercury in IX. But is in the sub
of Saturn in II (No planet in Saturn star) and so fully signifies II and
Saturn also placed in the star ofMoon owning VIII.

During this period he had roaring business life, but in the end,
nothing worth remained and average all weak again.

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 It was Mars period from Nov.76 to Nov.83, Mars is in XI, in
the starof Rahu in II. It is a fine signification and it is onl y thro stellar
status. He had roaring business life then and all failed to leave any
substance and all become Nil why? Mars is in sub of Kethu, in VIII
in its own star. So fully signifies VITI. All failed and nothing tangible
done.

As the sub lord signifies VIII, he was always prone to accidents,

all thro the period of Mars.

Then he entered into the major period of Rahu from Nov.83

and it is for 18 Years.

From Nov.83 he is on the ascending side in his life and now he

is assessed more then 6 to 7 crores and his field of busi ness are
giving him many a fold yield.

Let me discuss Rahu.

It is in II, in the star of Mars in XI and in the sub of Venus in X,

placed in the star of Mars in XI.

So on both counts i.e. stellar wise and sub wise it is fine and
the result is high material status.

In this Rahu period, bukthi of Saturn he was involved in a very

major Accident during March 1989 and out of all involved he was
the only person left free and no scratch at all.

Saturn is in II in the star of Moon in IV owning VII. IV & VII

tell about accidents. Let us see what Sllb says. Saturn is in the sub

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of Mercury in IX, placed in the star of Venus in X, owning XI. So in
term of stellar status, he was involved .in a very big accident, sub
saved him.

It is now Kethu bukthi (Rahu period) from 6-5-94 to 24-5-

94. Let me discuss Kethu period. Kethu is in VIII in its own star
Mak.ham, and so a full significator of VIII. This is matter that tells
about accidents, major operations and so on.

Let us see what sub says. The sub lord is Mars. Mars is in XI,
in the star of Rahu in IT in Kumbham. As node Rahu stands and
represents for Saturn who is a full significator of VI & VID.

He was operated upon 23-1-95 for a major matter and

survived.

The native's brother, approached me before the operation to

know the outcome and the longevity of the person.

I categorically told him that he has no fear for life in Rahu major
period as thro sub lord Mars, not at all connected to Badhakathipati
Mercury, in any manner.

I also added that he has life upto Mercury bukthi, Jupiter major
period, as Jupiter is in the sub of Mercury in IX and Mercury is a
Bhadlakadhipathi.for Dhanus lagna and earmarked the bukthi of
Mercury since Mercury is in the sub of Moon, placed in the star of
Mercury owning VII (No planet in VII).

So it is final, that the native has no trouble for life upto Mercury
bukthi, Jupiter period i.e. upto July 2006.

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 SUB -· LORDS WHODIVERT
THE !>ASA LORDS
What every may be type of Astrological Magazines, readers
evince interest on their respective Rasi Gochara Palas. Most of the
readers do not read the articles and ou thi s I use to feel very much
sorry for them. It used to be my desire that readers should evince
interest to read the articles just to know what these articles say about.

Readers the moment they see the Bhava/Gruha Sputa. They

feel allergic still further this KP. System and its sublords are a further
confusion to them. After all what is in this K.P. system should they
not show a small interest?

Mr. V.A. Sivapadham, by this K.P. system

will boldly tell well in advance that a particular card alone can be
packed at a given moment of time.

Mr. N. Mohan Rangam, our Madras friend will tell in advance

about the date & time of return of the missing person.

Kalachari Brothers Seshadri /Vedhachalam will foretell what

child will be born on what date. Thus those who study K.P. system
will foretell of events to occur on particular dates. Should not all of
you know about his K.P. which holds many surprises. So far no one
has developed or found such a type of Astrology.

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 In this chart Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter, Saturn & Mercury 6
planets having connections to different Bhavas, in particular has strong
signification to 8th Bhava. In this chart 8th Bhava sub-lord is Sun.
Sun is in the star ofRahu, who is in the 3rd Bhava and therefore he
is strong significator of the 3rd Bhava.

Therefore planets Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter, Saturn and

Mercury when attacking the 8th house, the sub -lord Sun holding his
powers to the 3rd Bhava only, diverts the 6 planets powers totally.
3rd house tells one's easy pattern oflife. During moments, difficulties
might have been experienced and still sitting under the fan and by
contacts over phone earnings or made in hundreds daily.

The 8th Bhava indicates, in our life big disappointments, jail,

punishments, accidents. But if the sub -lord gets a strong signification
for any one house of 1,2,3,6, 10, ll a person need not at all worry
about, whatever may be the Dasa is on or to come. The sub-lord
gets the power to divert the results of the Dasa lord. And therefore a
planet of its independent powers over Bhava res ults can not effect it
independently. That particular Bhava Cusp sub lord having power to
effect results for a particular Bhava alone ha to be implemented by
the Dasa Lord.

We will now look to another example - In this chart mars lord

of 5 and 10 in 6 has Bhava signification for 4,5,6,8 and 11.
Respectively the sublords Rahu for 2 & 8 Venus for 3rd, Jupiter
4,8, 11. Sun 3rd and Venus 3rd house significations are operating.
Mars has the Bhava signification for houses 4,5,6,8, 11. But the sub
lords has signification for 2,3,4,8 & 11th house. Therefore the Bhava

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 signification to 5th and 6th houses by mars is lost. i.e. mars loses the
Bhava signification over 5th and 6th houses. And therefore mars is
permitted to offer the results of2,3,4,8 & 11 houses only.

Planetary positions and Dasa I Bhukti will be siinilar in many

birth chart. In the charts of twins it will be 100% similar. Even then in
the gap of a few seconds, it is the Bhava sub -lords that decides the
. life span events. This is what we ha ve to realise. The secret of K.P.
System lies in the Bhava sputa. To say this period is Suba Das or
Asuba Das or such & such Bhava lord Dasa, is all an eye wash. No·
planet is Malefic and no planet is Benefic.

Benefic or malefic, we should understand that if a Bhava sublord

get the Bhava signification of houses 1,2,3,6, 10,11 they will give only
good results.

Once while talking to Mithuna our Trichy friend, he raised a

doubt. That was in K.P. System 11th Bhava indicates fulfillment of
one's desires (House of ambition). But the same 11th house is taken
as Badhakasthana for Sara lagna persons. How to reconcile. This
chart in a Sara Lagna one. Some of our relatives, attend the marriage
function in our house. As our guests, it is certain one day they will
take leave of us. Some leave biding good-bye. And some leave
without informing us as a matter of courtesy. Thus with a smile I
informed him that those who leave without informing us belongs to
the category of Sara lagna persons, Mr. Mithun probably did not
understand what I told, requested me to elaborate a little further.

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 11th Bhava fulfills the desires of any particular lagna. For Sara.
1agna the fulfillment is of the in -wards belonging to the (soul) Athama.
This Athma desires to leave the physical body without informing.
Whereas in the caseoftheSthira& Ubayalagna llthBhava, fulfilment
of the desires of the physical body is had by threatening.

In this particular chart 11th Bhava sublord is .Jupiter. Note.

how it is positioned: Jupiter is in the 1Oth Therefore Bhadakasthana
looses its strength. That is lOth is Vraya- 12th to 11th. This position
gives a long life to the native. Therefore K.P. system is the Master
key to open the door and reveal the secrets of Man's life.

X8.04
Kethu 9.59 Saturn 17.26 XI XD
IX6.04 Moon 17.40 9.04 9.04
Jupiter 18.45
Sun 19.36 3.3.1941
Mer.(R) 9.33 Mon 3-27 Hrs.
Venus7.47 I 7.47
Trichy
Vlll5 .64
Karkata_Lagnam
Bhavani 2nd Pada
VII7.47
II 5.04
Venus Dasa Balance
13Y-6M-OD
Mars9.04 lii 6.04
V9.04 N8.03
VI9.04 Ral'lu 9.59

Rahu Dasa running from 3.09.1977.

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 Star Lord Sub lord
Rahu Sun Venus
Mercury Rahu Rahu
Venus Rahu Rahu
Sun Rahu Mars
Kethu Saturn Venus
Mars Venus Moon
Moon Venus Mars
Saturn Venus Mars
Jupiter Venus Rahu

Cusp Sub lord

I Kethu
II Mars
ill Mercury
IV Rahu
v Venus
VI Jupiter
VII Venus
.vm Sun
IX Mercury
X Jupiter
XI Venus
XII Jupiter

Pranams to Guruji KSK..

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