Why?

Saturn is in the sub ofRahu in VIIT in its own star being

in 13°00' 14" in Libra and also as node further signifies IV & VI duly
representing Venus posited in 11 '0' 5" in Taurus-

Divorce case continued during Saturn period.

Finally it ended up in mutual consent with more benefits during

1984 during the bukthi of Sun (from June 1984 to June 1985).

Sun is in the star ofMars in XII & no planet in Sun star and so
signifies VII & IV also. These signification portray the difficult
situations, he had to face. But being in the sub ofKetu, he attains a
full signification of II and Ketu, as node represents Mars, a full
significator of VI. These II & VI signification ended the case in his
favour with benefits. ·

Then lines only force the idea that Saturn a full significator ofll,
could not give a peaceful family life for the native and on the contrary
he had a bachelor's life though married, in this period, as the same
Saturn attains VIIIth signification thro it sub lord Rahu.

Mr. Rao again consulted me during 1992. when Jupiter bukthi

running in Saturn period and was apprehensive ofhis ensuing MercUIY
period to start on 3-7-1993.

Why? He stated that Mercury for Kumbha lagna, is the owner

ofV & VIII and is in V itself. Further no planet in Mercury Stars
Ayilyam, Kettai and Revathi. So he is fully signifying V & VIIT. He
said he would be facing serious troubles in the way ofhis service and
financial failures also. He went to the extent of saying, he could be
Iossing his service also.

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 Of course I accepted the signification ofMercury, being V &
VIII and pointed put to hlm the effect of Sublord over the planet.
Here the sublord ofMercury is Kethu a full significator ofll, and I
made an emphatic prediction that he would safely continue to be in
service and over and above will have the happiness of enjoying a
love affair al so, with a decent lady as V is connected to II.

· As indicated by me, now he came and accepted that no serious

matters ever came in his service life and over and above, he has affair
with a very rich woman also.

I also indicated to him ihat he will be going on more leave

during Keth bukthi i.e from 30-11-95 to 27-11-96. Why?

Jupiter Saturn Venus Sun2-36-35

13-2-51 5-36-12 1145 Moon 4-40-44
Ket 13-00-14 VS-58-55
II 11 -58-55 IV 12-58-55
III 14-57-44 Mer. 14-45-8

VI
16-12-40 Nirayana Bhava 5-58-55
Chakram
Mars Balance in Mars
11-32-58
XII
.
lYrs. OIVtonths 16 Days VII
6-12-40
5-58-55
IX 14-57-44
XI 8-58-55 X 12-58-55 Rahu VIII
13-00-14 11-58-'55

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 Kethu is in II & so fully signifies II and as node represents
Mars, placed in the star ofMoon owning VI no planets in VI. So VI
& II continues the service. But as Kethu in the sub of Mercury in V
tells some disturbances in the Venus ofservice and he will be obliged
to avoid office, by going on long leave.

Next comes the bukthi ofVenus from 27-1 1-96 to 27-9-99.

Venus is in the star ofMoon, signifying VI & IV fully.

Venus is the sub ofMoon and so signifies XII & X.

So I hinted him, he is retiring during his bukthi without any

i
"major trouble in Venus anthra itself.

In tenns ofthe Vth signification ofthe Dasa lord Mercury, he

is now deeply engrossed inmantlua sastra and now doing daily Japarns
andPoojas.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
I wanted to discontinue writing article under the above caption,
but as our steemed Editor Sri. K.Subramamam desires me to continue
the same for the sake K.P. Readers. I am continuing this.

Now I take up the Horoscope of My be loved friend Mr.

Doraiswamy, born on 22-4-1958 at 6-10 a.m. IST- Place Trichy at
10-50 N, Long 78-44 East. Ayanamsa25°15'48".

He used to, too often consult me and when he was running Sun
bukthi in Rahu period, between 26-9-89 and 20-8-90, when he was
working on administrative status in Rayalaseema industries, I told
him though he was drawing a fat salary) he is destined to earn lakhs
every month, but not more thousands. Then he could not accep my
statement his horoscope.
Mercury Sun8-7-50 n 9-59-5 5 III
29-23-20 Kethu 8-14-5 Moon 6-59-55
pm 4-59-55 I 9-41-32
Lagna 10-9-50

Venus
22-16-56 IV
Nirayana Bhava
Mar.3-0-25 2-59-55
XI 1-59-55 Chakram
Balance in Moon
period of birth
9 Yrs.-10 M- .16 Days. v
X2-59-55 1-59-55

IX6-59-55 VII 9-41-32

. Satum(R)
VIII
9-59-55
RahuS-14-15
Jupiter(R)
VI
2-12-9 4-59-55
2-54-59

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 Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
Sun Jupiter Venus Satwn
Moon Moon Saturn Venus
Mars Venus Rahu Rahu
Mercury Saturn Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Venus

Such changes for his betterment came in the meantime, now

on date he talks about millions only. How it happended, we shall
discuss.

He got married on 18-12-1983. It was then the major period

ofRahu, from March 1975 to March 1993.

Rahu is in its own star in VI, but as node respresenting Venus

in XI, owning II & VII. So Rahu has the power to allow marriage
despite the fact it signifies VI. .It is imperative in the case ofNodes,
you must give credence, to its rasi lord (Note Venus has no planet in
its XI, II & VII)

The date ofmarriage falls in the bukthi ofSaturn.

Let us discuss Saturn. Saturn is in VIII and owns X & XI (No

planet in Saturn stars) and so fully signifies X, VITI, X & XI.

Saturn is in the sub ofVenus in XI (No planet in Venus Stars)

and so fully signifies XI, II and VII.

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 So though Saturn signifies VIII and~ detriment siginfication
for Marriage, through sub it signifies ~,VII & XI and so marriage in
this bukthi.

It was an illuck, he had to pass that way where a murder being

committed. The murderer also saw him and found that he will be in
trouble and eye witness ofhis committed ofthe act ofcrime and so
mentally troubled that he sould be implicated and forced to stand as
a witness against a murder.

It is during Aug 1982. Then it was middle of Saturn bukthi.

Let us discuss how it happened as it was a regular torment to

his mind.

Saturn as discussed above fully signifies Villas it has no planet

in its stars. Saturn owns X and XI (No planet in X and there are
planets in XI). So Saturn signifies X also fully.

Saturn is in the star ofKethu in XII. So Saturn signifies XII

also.

Saturn in the sub ofVenus in XI, placed in the star ofJupiter in

VI owning IX and XII. So VIII, XII and IX gave him torment ag~
X & VI gave him mental strength, as it is a good cause. (Vlli & XII
gave him murderous threat to him all through the case which ended in
Jupiter Anthra in Mercwy bukthi.

Mercury is in XII in its own star and so signifies XII, ill & VI
and is in the sub of Saturn in VIII and placed in the s~ ofKethu in
XII. ' I

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 So Mercury gets XII, Vill and XII again and the~fo~ it was
hell ofa time for the native.

Jupiter Anthra (between 10-1-85 and 29-4-85) ended the

Torment, as the case got finalised and the culprits jailed for long term.

What is the strength of Jupiter to give him mental peace.

Jupiter is in VI, in the star ofMars in XI in its own star, owning

Lagna and VIII.( Saturn is in VIII) So Jupiter fully signified XI and
this is good.

Such a Jupiter is in the sub ofVenus XI (No Planet in Venus

star) and so for signifies XI. The same Venus is inthe star' ofJupiter in
VI. So, VI & XI releived him from the nasty trouble of being a
winner for MURDER CASE.

He got his first Child on 24-4-84 Then it was Mercury bukthi.

(20-2-83 to 8-9-85)

How Mercury is connected to Progency.

Mercury is in XII in its own star and so fully signfies XII, II &
VI. But Mercury in the sub of Saturn placed in the star ofKethu in
XII. Then how a child on this bukthi that has nothing to do with Vth
at all.

Look at Kethu i.e. the star lord ofthe sub lord Saturn. Kethu
is in Aries 14-S"and Sun in Aries 8°-7-5' Kethu by virtue ofits
occupation with Sun owning Vth cusp and no planet in V, so the child
Mercury bukthi.

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 Another child born on 12-5-1988 it was then running Venus
bukthi (26-9-86 to 26-9-89) How Venus is connected to child
birth, let us look into. Venus is in XI No planet in Venus stars) and so
fully signifies II & VII also Venus is in the star ofJupiter and so VI, IX
and XII (Mercury in XII) Venus is in the sub of Saturn and placed in
the star ofKethu in XII in.A.ries at 8°14' 5" with close promixity with
Sun in Aries 8°-7' 50", as discussed above Venus bukthi could give
child.

Joined a lucrative service in Raya laseema Industries on 15-9-

87 from ordinary job. It was then Venus bukthi Rahu major period.
Venus ( 26-9-86 to 26-9-89) is in XI (No planet in Venus stars) So
fully signifies XI, II & VII Venus is in the star ofJupiter in VI owning
IX and XII Mercury in XII) So jupiter signifies VI & Venus is the sub
of Saturn and so signifies Vill & X (No planet in Saturn stars) Xll
being in the star ofKethu in XII, VI IX changed his job, X & XI gave
him status in service, as Kethu the node represents Mars in XI.

He maintained a good administrative status in Rayalaseema

Industries and when he was there, he consulted me in Moon bukthi,
regarding his future, when I was told enough to tell him that he would
become a Crorepathi in Jupiter major period, and such correction
are to come in Mars bukthi itself in Rahu period. It was the Moon
bukthi from 20-8-90 to 20-2-92. Moon is in II in its own star and
own sub. predicted him that he would be getting a bing amount then.
It happened and he got the money, Four lakhs through chit which
was so utterly not in his preview.

Accepting this prediction, he consulted about his future.

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 I looked at Jupiter and its significations Jupiter period to run
from8-3-93 for 16years.

Jupiter is in VI, and as Venus is in Jupiter star, Jupiter cannot

signify VI, IX and XII Jupiter is in the star of Mars in XI in its own
star So XI &J ( Saturn is in VIII) so through star Jupiter fully signifies
XI & I fully, Jupiter is in the sub ofVenus in XI (No planet in Venus
star) and so fully signifies XI, II & VII.

Venus is in the star ofJupiter in VI, owning IX and XII (Mercury

in XII) and so VI and IX. Here Jupiter with its Stellar signification of
XI, 1 is aided by its sub lord venus, with the signification ofXI, ll VII
&VI fully.

So I finalised and told that during this Moon bukthi, he will be

leaving his Job and take u~ a bing business life during Jupiter major
period and earn Lakhs.

He could belive it and went away.

Again ve:ry soon by December 1991 he again came to me and

told that my prediction is taking shape to come 100% true.

How, I asked him. He narrated how by his Grace, one of his

!ich relative has given him some hundreds ofAcres ofland on lease
for producing Salt and now during May 1994, lease has been made
permanent and he is·now getting lakhs ofrupees in his production of
salt. Getting back to Moon bukthi the lease l?Dds has come under his
'
control. How?

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 Moon owns IVth cusp and no planet in IVth, more so Moon
fully signifies N. Moon being in its own sub, IVthandllnd significations
are there (Moon is in its own star and own sub in II).

Hence IVth house matter, is lands, with the aid of Sub

significations ofVI & II, has come to him with least trouble.

Lands do come, when IVth signification works out thro Sub.

It is general matter.

Here, the lands got under lease only. How to find out? The
IVth cusp sub lord tells about it. Our Gurujui Sri. KSK used to tell
that only lease matters can be seen ifRahu intervenes.

Here actually the sub Lord is Rahu, as the IV Cuspal degree

falls in Cancer 2°59'55".

Rahu is in its own star and Sub in VI. ag~nst odds, he easily
got the lands under lease in Moon bukthi itself.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

I take up the birth chart of Mr. Karthikeyan born on 30-9/

I
1-:-10 -1942 at 12-5 night at Madurai-9°-55'178°-10' Ayanamsa:
23°-2-24
xn 17-27 • ·•-+

Sat.l9-27-36 I 16-22-55
X 13-27 XI 16-27 Moon Jup.29-22-1
2543-20

IX 11-27
Ketu Nirayana Bhava 1112-27
9-20-17 Chakram
Balance in Mars
period at · Rahu
VIII Yrs.5-8-28 days 9-20-1 7
12-27
III 11-27

VII v 16-27 Ven.2-1 2-13

Mercury IVI3-27
16-22-55 VI 17-27 Sun 13-54-17
2-40-32
MarslS-39-48

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord

I Venus VII Moon
II Mars VIII Rahu
III Mercury IX Saturn
IV Rahu x. Rahu
v Venus XI Moon
VI Mercury Xll Saturn
·,

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 Planet Suhlord Planet Suhlord
Swt Jupiter Venus Jupiter
Moon ·. Rahu Saturn Mercury
Mars Jupiter Rahu Saturn
Mercury Venus Ketu Jupiter
Jupiter Stm

He entered into Central Government Service on 8-10-1963.

Then he was in the Major period of Rahu, and bukthi of Sun
(17-1-63 to 17-12-69).

Let us discuss Rahu first. Rahu is in II, in the star ofKethu in

VIII. Rahu is in the Sub of Saturn and so signifies XII and IT. So
Rahu is a mixed period, with average flow ofmoney, long travels
also indicates, along with new environment.

When he get employed it was Sun bukthi. How Sun is

coiUlected to Service?

Sun is in IV, in the star ofMoon is XII. But it is in the Sub of

Jupiter in Lagna in its own star and owns X. So thro' Sub, Sun gets
X signification and so got employed this bukthi.

As Dasa lord and bukthi lord both have XII signification from
star, he got service in a far offplace in Madhya Pradesh.

He left service on 1-2-1969. It was the bukthi of Saturn ( 17-

8-68 to 29-2-71). Let us see how Saturn tells that.

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 Saturn is in XII and no planet in its stars so fully signifies XII,
VIII & IX. It is in the Sub ofMercury. Mercury in IV ofno planet in
its star stands as detriment to service and it tells bad occupational life
during this bukthi.

After leaving service, he opened a book circulating library on

23-8-1972. It was then the bukthi ofMercury (29-2-71 to 5-6-73).
No planet in Mercury star and it is in IV, the star of Mars in IV,
owning VI & XI. The same Mercury is in the sub ofVenus in Ill (no
planet in Kethu's star) and so fully signifies ill. Ilrd house stands for
Books ofthe like.

He was doing circulation of books upto end ofJupiter period,

Jupiter is in its own star Mithunam, which stands for Books and
Jupiter being in the Sub ofSun IV, in the star ofMoon owning II in
XII tells collection ofBooks.

Got married on 1-7-1974, in the bukthi ofVenus (17-5-74 to

17-1-77), Venus is in ill and having no planet in its stars, signifies III,
Vfully.

Venus is in the star ofSun in IV owning ill. Venus is in the sub

ofJupiter, in Lagna in its own star and owns VII, no planet in VII and .
so fully signifies VII.

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 In kethu bukthi (i.e. between 11-3-88 to 20.4-88) during
October 88 , he bequeathed a big amount of money, to the tune· of
severallakhs.

Let us discuss how K.ethu is so powerful. Kethu is in Vlli in

the star ofRahu in ll is good, and it is in the Sub ofJupiter in Lagna in
its own star owning X and no planet in X.

Now I like to discuss two Horary Figures for the Nwnbers

giv~n by my friend Mr.Rajendar of Adyar and a K.P. Follower,
· regarding the purchase ofa Motor Bike (Raj Doot).

His way ofprofession is servicing (T.V. and the like) requires

a Bike to make quick movements.

In 25-8-94 he came to my room with a·quety ifhe would be

getting a particular R.ajdoot Motor Bike and gave No.68 to work out
the Hol'alj.

As usual I entrusted the Iwork to my beloved friend Mohan

and it is as follows.

No.Given68.

Reg: - Wili I get a particular Motor Bike (Rajdoot) taken up

. for working 10-45 a.m. on 25.8.94.

Krishnamurthi Padhdhati • 101

 Moon X6-56-15 Xll8-56-15
2344-3 Xl8-56-15 Mars
Kethu
IX4-56-15 24-49-24 11-42-22

Saturn(R)
1548-41 I 7-20
vm ·Lagna
4-56-15
Nirayana Horary Chart
ll4-56-15
Sun8-1-31
VII 7-20 Mercury
19-36-14
Rahu 24-49-24
VI
v 8-56-15 Jupiter m14-56-15
8-56-15 15-2-48 Venus
N6-56-15 24-2-31

Place :-Chennai 13°-4'/80°-17'

Ayanamsa used:- 23°-45 ' -57" . ·

Mr.Rajendran divulged that he had already advanced some

amount, still there is something that prompts him to consult as the
owner ofthe Bike indicated that he would part with the Bike ifhis b-
in-law gives a clearance, which he expected soon and that is why this
Horary.

Mohan looks into the Sub Lord ofthe IVth cusp.

He says IV in cusp tells about the Bike now under view, and
the Xth cusp fells ifat all he will be getting a Bike (Raj Doot)to his
liking, now in thiS instance.

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 IVth cusp sub lord here is Rahu.

Rahu is in IV is good.

Rahu is in the star ofJupiter in IV is fine.

With this one is tempted to say a positive answer that he will

be getting the Bike question, as he had already advanced a sizeable
amount to the party.

But Mohan looks into the Sub lord status ofthe planet Rahu.
It is in the Sub ofMercury. Mercury is in ll and it is encouraging. But
Moon is in Mercury star and so does not signify II and Mer~ury is
stationed in the star ofVenus ·in III a complete detriment house for
such matters and emphatically told Rajendran that he fails to get that
particular Bike (Raj Doot) and it is confirmed by the sub lord ofXth
cusp. The sub lord being Rahu again through its sub lord Mercury
signifies magain a detriment.

Mr. Rajendran left me with a word that he would be meeting

me again with the results.

He again visited me on the evening of30-9-94 telling that he

failed to get that Bike and the advanced amount was returned to him.

Rajendran gave another No.l88 for Horary to find out ifthe

Bike (Rajdoot) now in his views, will be purchased by him.

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 Mohan was gracious enough to take up the working of the
Horary and it was 3 -7. p.m on 30-8-94 for the No. l88 given by
Rajendran.

Ayanamsa used 23°-45' -57".

VI2-26-59
IV 8-26-59 v 6-26-59 Mars 15-8-I 0
III 6-26-59 Kethu Moon
Vll 29-13-20
24-32-13 27-54-42

Sarturn (R)
15-24-00
II 2-26-59
Nirayana Horary
Chart Vlll 2-26-59
Sun 13-13-20
Mercury
2749-53
.
Rah24-32-13 IX 6-26-59
129-13-20 XI 6-26-59 Jup.IS-50-32 Venus
XII2-26-59 XS-26-59 29-5-31

,Cusp Sub lord

I Rahu
II Ketu
IV Jupiter
VII Sun
X Rahu
XI Mercury

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 Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Stm Mercwy Venus Satwn
Moon Saturn Satwn Venus
Mars Ketu Rahu Mercwy
Mercmy Moon K~tu Mercwy
Jupiter Venus

Now the Nth cusp sub lord is Jupiter. Jupiter is in X and

placed in the star ofRahu is X. This tells immediately a failure and X
tells the Bike will not be parted with by the owner; this is stellar strength.

Now look into the sublord ofJupiter it is Venus.

Venus is in IX, in the star ofMars in VI, owing N ·& XI.

This tells he will be getting the Bike he likes, very soon, as the
lagna cusp sublord Rahu·is th~ Sub ofMercwy a very fast planet.

Mr. Rajendran carp.e on 1-9-94 in a Bike which has come to

him on 31 .8.84 itself. ·

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 1 SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
Now I take up the birth chart of one of my friend
Mr.Singaravelu, the sitting Sub Judge in Tamil Nadu Judicial
Department born on 3/4-8-1947 at 5.11 a.m at 10°-58'179'-25"
Ayanamsa:23°-6'36"

Mars0-18-50
Rahu XII 6-17
IX 3-17 X5-I7 5-38-26 Mercury
XI7-17 28-23-39

Moon I 5-19-9
Ven 9-17-22
8-50-49 Nirayana Bhava Sun 17-38-26
VIII 2-17 Chakram Sat.19-6-18
Balance in Rahu
period at
VII 5:-19-9 Yrs 15-00-20 days II 2-17

v 7-17 Jup
III 3-17
VI 6-17 Ketu 25-7-24
5-38-26 IV 5-17

Planet Suh/ord Planet Suhlord

Stm Mercwy Venus Venus
Moon Jupiter Satwn Ketu
Mars Mercwy Rahu Ketu
Mercwy Venus Ketu Meremy
Jupiter Mercwy

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 He is in Judicial Department and let us see ifhis Xth cusp is in
any way connected to Jupiter or IX in signification.

Xth cusp falls at 50- 17 in Aries.

It is ruled by Mars as Sub Lord.

Mars is in its own star in XI tells good occupational life.

But it is not connected to either Jupiter or IXth. As it is in its

own star, it signifies X & V also, that is all. Then how Judicature is
connected? Now look at the Sub lord ofMars. It is Mercury. There
are planets in Mercucy stars and so does not signify XII, But Mercury
is in the star of Jupiter placed in its own star in Libra. And further
Jupiter owns IX & VI. This amply indicates his profession as Judge.

He was running the maJor period ofJupiter from August 62 to

August 78 and bukthi of Moon from December 73 to April 75.

In this bukthi, he was elevated to the status ofDistrict MtmSiff.

How?

Moon is in the star ofRahu in X, is good. Moon is in the Sub

of Jupiter in itS own star in IV and so fully signifies VI & IX. (No
planet in VI).

So X & VI acted and he was...elevated to bench in District

level.

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 Further he was elevated to Sub Judge status on 7-3-1984. It
was the bukthi ofMercury from 27-8-81 to 6-5-84.

Mercury is in the star ofJupiter in IV in its own star duly o~g

VI (No planet in VI). So signifying IV & VI fully along with IX, and
being in the Sub ofVelms. Venus is in 1 and in the star of Saturn.
Who is also in Lagna Bhavam and rules IV & XI (No planet and
Venus star) and so elevated to a bigger status.

He was involved in an accident on 6-9-92 . it was in the bukthi

ofRahu from 6-11-92 to 16-2-95. Rahu is in X in the star ofSub in
I owning II.

Rahu is in Sub ofMercury in xll owning Xll, placed in the star

.of.Jupiter in IV, owning VI & IX.

So Rahu gets, the signification ofl & II, thro star & thro Sublord
Mercury feeble significator of XII, and full signification ofiV, VI &
IX.

Rahu is in the star of Sun in I in 17°-38'-26" with nearer

promixio/ to Saturn in 19°-6' - 18", who owns VII & VIII in cusps.

So Rahu the bukthinatha gets Vill, IV & XII in a way and so

the occurance ofaccident in this bukthi.

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 As Rahu is in the Sub of Mercury in XII placed in the Sub of
Jupiter owning IX in Pisces, So zodiacal XII.

Hence Xllth involved him in accident and his feet is seriously

affected and the infection still continues and pain persists.

I to ld him that infection will be up to the end ofRahu bukthi i.e.

March95.

Further more, I gave him a prediction that he will be elevated in

his service with the advent ofthe bukti ofJupiter i.e. February/March
95.

How? Jupiter is in IV in its own star owning VI (No planet in

VI) So Jupiter signifies IV & VI fully.

Jupiter is in the Sub ofMercury in XII. (There are no planets in

Mercury stars). Placed in the starofJupiter signifying IV & VI fully.

Jupiter thro star and sub signified. VI and so it shall elevate bini
in service, with out any disturbance, in the venue ofservice, and without
disturbance to his environmental status.

I have another Horoscope for discussion and to emphazie the

efficacy ofthe usage ofsub lord in finalising a prediction.

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 Mr. M.S. Panda was born on 6-1-1955 at 10-33-15 hrs. a.m
( Rectified by me) place of birth Aska, in Oriss a 19o-36-50"
84°-40-lS"E. '

Ayanamsa : 23°- 13-17"

Planet Suhlord Planet Suhiord

Sun . Jupiter Venus Mercury
Moon Ketu Saturn Mercury
Mars Moon Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mars Ketu Saturn
Jupiter Rahu

Asc. ni6°'43'26 IV 2°43 '26"

I 1°3 ' 16" . · II
¥oon Ket.ll 0 '54'5"
6°'43 ' 26" 2 00' 15'20"
M 0°20 ' 48" V 2'?43' 26"

Ju2°58'42"
Nirayana Bbava Vl25°43 '26"
Chakram
Moon Period Balance
XII
Y2-4-21 days
25°43 ' 26 "

Mer.2 l054'37" Saturn

XJ27°43'26" Venus 25°34'40"
Sun21°34'56" VII
6°44'4" Vlll 1°3' 16"
Ra 11 °54 ' 5"
IX6°43'20" 6°43 '26"
X2°43'26"

Mr. Panda was running the major period ofRahu from April' 64
toApril'82.

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 Rahu in X, in the star ofKetu in IV, This teUs fourth h.ouse
matters (educational life and connected matters).

Rahu is the Sub ofMercury, in XI ( no planet in Mercury star)

and placed in the star of Sun in X. (No cusp in Leo). So fully
signifies XI, X, IV & VII.

So it is a fine period, to give him education and service too,

Actually he passed out M.Sc ., (Maths) in 1978 in this period ofRahu
and in the bukthi of Venus between December 75 and December 78.

Venus is IX, in the star of Saturn in VIII duly owning XII, so

signifies Vill & XII. then how it gives him service in this bukthi of
Venus.

Now look into the Sub lord ofVenus. It is Mercury, placed in

XI (No planet in Mercury Star). duly placed in the star ofSunin x (
·No cusp in Sun's rasi Leo) So well employed.

From April82 to April98, it is the major period of Jupiter.

Jupiter is 1n V, in its own star, and so fully signifies V, I, X & XL

Jupiter being in the Sub ofRahu signifies IV (being placed in

Ketu star) and Ketu stands for Mercury in XI.

So this period of Jupiter is rendered good; duly giving him

educational success, maritial life, children and good service.

He got married on 4-7-1983. Then it was the bukthi of Juptter

(Apri l 82 to June 84).

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 How Jupiter gives him marriage?

Jupiter is in the sub ofRahu, placed in the star ofKetu in IV

(MITHUNAM) and so as node Ketu fully stands of Mercury. Hence
VIth matter also comes in thro ' sub strength. ·

He passedAMIE in Chemical Engineering during 1984. The

same bukthi lord JUPITER is in the sub ofRahu, who is in the star of
Ketu in IV & so educational prosperity.

For bettering his prospects he changed his service and joined

Indian Rare Earths on 10-4-1985, when it was Saturn bukthi running,
in Jupiter Major period Saturn bukthi from June 1984 to December
1986. Saturn is VIII, in the star of Jupiter in V. Then how better
·service he could change to. Now look into the sub lord ofSaturn. It
is Mercury Mercury is in XI (No planet in Mercury stars) and is in
the star ofSun in X. So thro sub lord Saturn gets XI & X signification.
Hence elevation in this bukthi, and got better job.

As the sub lord Merc ury is a D ual planet, placed in a Dual

house ( Dhanus) he was obliged to change his job for still more better
prospects on 12-6-1986. by joining as Senior Engineer in Pradeep
phosphates Ltd., inthe same Saturn bukthi.

Got a daughter on 24-9-1984. It was then Saturn bukthi

(June 84 to Dec.86) Saturn in the star ofJupiter in V and thro' sub
lord Mercury signifies XI, IV, V & VII. Here Saturn gets the matter
V & thro' sub V & XI. So a child in this bukthi.

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 Got another child (Son) on 19-4-92. Now it is the bukthi of
Venus. (January 90 to September 92). Venus is in IX , in the star of
Saturn in VIII owning XII. But Venus inthe Sub of Mercury in XI. (
No planet in Mercury stars) owning IV, V VII So thro sub lord'
Venusthe bukthi lord signifies V & XI.

He purchased a piece ofland for Housing purpose on 15-6-

1993. Then it was the bukthi ofMoon, in its own star in Ill, a detriment
house for such a mat ter, But being in the sub ofKethu, in IV duly
representing Mercury, a full significator ofXI, rv, fourth house matter
comes in.

He was found to suffer from Diabetes on 12-10-93 And also

attacked by Jaundice which was detected on 8-10-94. These two
dates fall between 9-6-93. to 9-10-94. which is the bukthi ofMoon
in Jupiter Major period. It also indicates by the native of this
horoscope that he is suffering from respiratory problem from 7-7-
1994.

Let us discuss Moon & how it is connected to illness stated as

above.

Moon is in III in its own star and no planet in its star duly
owns) VI in cusp and no planet in VI. This tells that it is the period
ofillness and Moon alone is fully signifying the illness matters ofVIth.

Moon is in the sub ofKetu in IV, in Gemini and owns VI in

cusp in Cancer this tells these diseases.

He will have still suffering from illness even up to Mars bukthi

in Dec. 95 as Mars is in the sub ofMoon, a full significator ofVI.

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 He will be completely free from ill health only with the advent
ofRahu bukthi in from December 95, as Rahu is in the Sub ofMercury
a full significator ofXI & V.

Rahu bukthi is from December'95 to April98. Rahu is in X, in

the star ofKetu in IV and it is in the Sub of Mercury in XI and no
planet in Mercury star so fully signifies XI and IV. I am sure he will
take up construction of his house and fini sh he same in that bukthi
itself

Current period is that ofJupiter up to April 98 and it signifies

IV fully, So it is felt no foreign service up to April 98.

Next major period ofSaturn from December 98 for 19 years.

Saturn is in vm and owns XII, and is in the star ofJupiter in V

& so signifies V & I fully. it is stell ~ signification and it is not
encouraging fo r material prospects.

But Saturn is in the Sub of Mercury Mercury, as already

discussed, fully signifies XI & XI and so I am ofoplnion Saturn period
will bring him immense luck duly enhance him to the status ofVIP in
his realm ofactivities.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
I
I append here under, the birth chart ofone Mr. N.S.R a Railway
Employee, born on I 0-3 -1943, at 9-00 p.m 1ST at Coimbatore
11 °-00177°-0(}
Ayanamsa 23°-3-15"

VII vm
Venus 3°57' IX2°57''
3°47'45"
23~'33 " Jup iter(R)
Moon Saturn
Vl3°57'' 130J0'20" 22"7 '45"
1'1'48'45''
Sun 26°8'30"
Mer. 6°5'48"
Nirayana Bbava X 1°57''
V ~57''
Ketu 0°48'09 Cbakram
Balance in Venus
Mars period at birth Rahu
8°36'24" 10 Y - 6 M - 16 days 0048"49"
IV 1°57'' Xl2°5T'

Ill 2°57" II 3°57" 1 3°47'1 5'' XII3°37''

Pla11et Sublord Planet Sublord

Stm Ketu Venus Moon
Moon Rahu Saturn Rahu
Mars Venus Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Kethu Mercury
Jupiter Saturn

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 The native ofthis Horoscope is well at playing on FLUTE. Let
us discuss how his Vth cusp portrays the same.

The sub lord ofthe Vth cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of
Mercury in V tells artistic faculty and further Mercury is in Airy sign
and so Flute. As the same Venus is in the Sub of Moon, duly placed
in the star of Venus in Pisces, being in short Ascession, Flute is
confinned.

If the same Venus were to be in long ascession, it would be

Nadaswaram or Clarinet.

He lost his eye sight in his age of eight what h~ tells. It was
then Venus period. Let us see ifVenus can make him blind. Venus is
in VI, in the star ofMercury in V, owning Xll, Venus is in the sub of
Moon, again placed in the star ofVenus in VI owjng Vlll. This tells
danger and illness. ·

I surmise he should have lost his eye sight in Mercury bukthi in

Venus period. Mercury is in V, in the star of mars in IV owing II
stands for eyes) Mercury is the Sub Moon. placed in the star of
Venus in VI, owning Vlll. This tell s some serious matter for his
eyes.

He was given service in Railway as an handicapped person

during 1984 only. When worked out it was the major period of
Mars from September '79 to September 86. And further working
the bukthis, I found it was Mercury bukthi from March 83 to April
84. If we analyse, (Mercury happens, to be in the sub of Moon,
owing X, in the star ofVenus in VI. Got married by December 1985.
It was then Mars period and Sun bukthi. ( 22-10-85 to 28-2-86).
Let us discuss Sun.

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 Sun is in V, in the star ofJupiter in IX and so signifies ill &IX.
Sun is in the sub ofKetu placed in the star of Mars, owing II & VII.

One K..P. enthusiasist from Nanganallur, Chennai approached

me for clarification regarding some event in Mr. Ravi's horoscope, It
was that there was no indication of illhealth in the period (Buk.thi)
then running, but he was seriously affected in health.

Using the sub lord I proved how bukthi well portrayed the ill
health. It is as under Mr. R.avi is born on 8-2-195~, at 4-20 a.m 1ST
at Madras 13°-4/80°-17' Ayanamsa 23°-15' -48"

Ketu 0-49-45 Sun 13-18

VU26-44 IX Mar. 13-35-3
VIII 26-9
Moon 26-9 X 25-9
Venus
10-39-53 Mer.27-41-53
27-42-11

XI
VI Nirayana Bhava 26-1
27-9 Cbakram
Balance in Satun
period Jup20-7-39
v Saturn
26-9 Yrs .8 -6 -28 days
26-27-30
Xll27-9
II 26-9 I
IV III 2644
Rahu
25-9 26-9 As c.
0-49-45

Let us first discuss how R.avi was seriously ill on 26-10-93.

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 What is the major dasa then on 26-10-93, It was that ofJupiter
fromApril88 to April2004. How is Jupiter, Jupiter is in X owning I
& N no planet is Jupiter shows that it fully signifies X and fully I &
IV. Jupiter is in the star ofRahu is X as node Rahu acquires the
strength of its Rasi lord Venus and so VI also. Jupiter is in the sub of
Rahu in X in its own star and so signifies X fully along with VI.

General luck is very good in this period along with VI house

matters i.e., sickness. On the date 26-10-93 it was the bukti of
Mercury ( from-30-12-92 to 6-4-95) The K.P. enthusiastic was happy
when I discussed Mercury.

Mercury is in 1agna in the star of Sun in II. This does not tell
sickness. Mercury is in the sub ofVenus in lagna in the star of Sun in
ll signifies II & I But as Venus has no planet in its~ it fully signifies
VI & so serious sickness as I & VI is connected here as our Late
Guruji too often told that connected to VI will end in sickness seriously.
The enthusiastic was happy to see how the sub lord alone portrays
real position thought the stellar strength reveals nothing about ill health.
Mr. Ravi, got married on 3-2-83. It was then the bukthi ofVenus in
Rahu period ( Venus bukthi from 18-11-81 to 18-
11-84) Let us see how Venus is connected to the marriage
signification. Venus is in lagna and owns VI (No planet is VI and
Venus stars also) So it signifies I & VI fully otherwise. How then the
marriage made possible in a bukthi fully signifying VI which is a fully
detriment for marriage.

Now look in the sub lord ofVenus. It is in its own sub and no
planet in its star and so it signifies VI & XI fully and further XI is an
antidote to VI and cancels the lord of VI.

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 Venus is in star of Sun in II is good for marriage and XI is
connected toll. Venus and Mercury in the same sub ofVenus and
Mercury in the same sub ofVenus i.e. Mercury in 8°-4 in makara and
Venus ~-3 5" in makara. Mercury owns Vllth cusp. so here there is
sub continuation II, Vll & :XI.

Now I take up the horoscope of a big politician the birth

particulars has been taken from a big Astrological journal. The
anthenticity ofwhich I am not 100% sure As I want to explain status
and how in strength ofplanets is latent and how it gives strength to the
periods to make him No.1 in Bharat Desa.

He was born at 1-12 Noon 1ST on 28-6-1921 at 18°-28'

N.L/79°-6 LongitudeAyanamsa being 22°-44' -47"

Ketu 0-49-45 SlD113-18

VD2644
Vill26-9 IX Mars 13-35-3
Moon
Venus 26-9 X 25-9
10-39-53
27-42-11 Mer.27-41-53

VI27-9 XI
Nirayana Bhava
26-1
Chakram
Balance in Satun
period Jup20-7-39
Saturn
V26-9 Yrs.8 -6-28 days
26-27-30
. Xn27-9

II26-9 I
N25-9 Ill 26-9
Rahu 26-44
049-45 As c.

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 Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Mercury Venus Moon
Moon Stm Saturn Kethu
Mars Mercury Rahu Mercury
Mercury Venus Ketu Venus
Jupiter Jupiter

He had attained the status ofNo.1 in India it was then R<iliu

Bukthi in Mars period.

What is Mars in the birth chart.

Mars is in IX.

Mars in the star ofRahu is lagna Bhava

Mars is a significator ofl. It is good as for it goes. Ofcourse

it tells some status for the native look at sub ofMars. It is Mercury.

Mercury owns I & X.

Mercury is in X no planet in Mercury star and so signifies, I &

~fully. Further more Mercury tenants Jupiter star and Jupiter is in
XI and si~es so XI full. So Mars for Kanya lagna) considered by
traditionaiAstrology so seriously hannful planet, gets I X, XI more
powerful and high signification through sublord strength to the extent
ofelevating him to No. In India. You can note how sub lord works
in a subtle manner.

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 He was elevated to this status in Rahu bhukthi. Let us discuss
Rahu, Rahu is lagna in the star of Mars in IX ( IX is good for
enthronement). Rahu is in the sub ofMercury in X and own I & X.
(No planet in Mercury star) So signifies I & X it is fine and is placed
in the star ofJupiter in XI.

So elevated in this bukthi of Rahu. In the interest to make

understand the Students ofK.P. I am discussing here under and assess
the strength ofeach planet under the sub lord strength.

Sun:- Sun owns XII in IX in the starofRahu in lagna stellar

wise is good, as it derives lagna strength it is multiplied
by sublord strength ofl & X, XI having been placed in
the sub ofMercury. So good.

Moon :- Moon is in the VI No Planet in Moon star and so fully

signifies VI & XI.

Moon is in the star of Saturn in XI & so V & XI Moon

is in the sub of a sun significator oflagna having been
placed in the star ofRahu in Lagna- Good.

Mars :- Mars in IX in the star ofRahu in lagna and in the sub of

Mercury a full significator ofl, X & XI- Good.

Mercury:- Mercury is in X and no planet in Mercury stars so fully

signifies I & X being in the star ofJupiter, XI & IV also.

Mercury is in the sub ofVenus and so signifies IX and

XII: bad.

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Jupiter :- Jupiter is in XI in the star ofVenus in VIII & signifies II &
vm.
Jupiter is in the sub of its own, again VII & II It is mixed.

Venus :- Venus is in the star of Sun in IX & so signifies IX & XII

fully.

Venus is the sub of Moon and so signifies VI & XI (no

planet in Moon star)

Moon is in the star of Saturn in XI & so XI & V also

good.

Saturn :- Saturn is in XI, in the star ofVenus in Vill & so signifies

VIII & II. Saturn in the sub ofKethu and so signifies VII
fully bad.

Rahu :- Rahu is in lagna in the star ofMars in IX and so signifies

IX & mfully Rahu is inthe sub ofMercmyand so signifies
I,X & XI - Good.

Kethu :- Kethu is in its own star and so signifies VII fully. Kethu
is the sub ofVenus and so signifies DC & VII -Bad.

From the above the student's may note that. out of9 planets
only Ketu, Saturn and Mercury are bad and the rest are good.

So the majority ofthe planets being good they have aided the
native to climb up to the post ofPJ~~:.<'>flndia, during Mars period.
;• • I

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
rt I
Today I have taken up the birth chart ofone Mr. N., Inspector
ofPolice, Tamil Nadu, when I first met him. he was in the near circle
ofthe then DGP Sri.B.P.Rangasamy.

AsicameoutoftheroomoftheDGO,hewaswaitingoutside
and gave me his Horoscope in traditional style and I asked him to
come on the next day so that I could cast it wtder Placidisu system.

He came the next day and I handed over his horoscope in

Placidious way & the particulars are as under.

He was born
. at 5-31.am.
. IST on 5-1-1964 at Chennai 13°-
04/80°-17'. Ayanamsa 23°~20' -50"

Balance in Sun period at birth years 3 months 11 days 8.

Jupiter vn
1746-10 v 12-11-37 VI9-11-37 5-12-13
Nll-11-37 Rahu
17-47-10

ill8-11-37 VIII
5-11-37
Nirayana Bhava Chart
Balance in Sun period .
Sat27-29-l0 3 Yrs. 11 Months 8 Days
'
Ve2l-45-l0
115-ll-37
IXS-11-37
Mars·~l3-10

Su20-19-10
Mercury{R) xn XI Moon
19-21-10 9-11-37 12-11-37 1-15-10
;Ket17-47-10 X 11-11-37
ll5-12-13

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 Planet Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Jupiter Venus Venus
Moon Jupiter Saturn Jupiter
Mars Rahu Rahu Stm
Mercury Rahu Kethu Mars
Jupiter Mercury

It was really happy for me to see his Xth cusp fell on Kanya
11-11-37 ruled by mars as sub lord- I have already mentioned that
he is a Inspector ofPolice. Mars is in Lagna in the star ofSwt a royal
planet & in the sub ofRahu in VII its own star, duly representing
Mercury in Lagna in Dhanus duly signifies VI & XI.
. '

So service in Police department.

< ~e joined police service in the major period ofRahu, buk.thi of

Rahu, Anthra of Moon, on 6-5-1987 on Wednesday.

As I was telling him that his horoscope tallies well in terms of

his service and joining date, Mr. Mohan who was all along with me
and DGP, intervened and told him that he has medical knowledge.

To my surprise, he accepted that he has good knowledge in

administering medicines (HOMEO) since his joining police service,
as he studied the same separately.

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 Mr. Mohan also explained how the Nth cusp sub lord is Moon
and has connection to'Sun thro' star IX & thro sub IV fully, and
added that he will become and adept in Medicine as Jupiter has no
planet in its star, and placed in IV, as IX & IV is connected.

He told me that he got married on 5-12-1993 & it was a Friday.

It was then the period ofRahu, bukthi ofMercury and anthra

of Mercury.

Let us discuss Rahu.

Rahu being in its own star in Vll, signifies Vll, being in the sub
ofSun, signifies n VI & XI. Here their is a good combination ofVll,
II, VI & XI. Mercury is in lagna and owns VII.

So marriage took place in Mercury bukthi and Mercury anthra.

I found the date ofMarria~e was in the sookshama of Mars

(30-1-93 to 8-2-93)

How Mars is connected to marriage? .

Mars is in lagna bhava and owns V & XII. Mars is in the star
ofSun in lagna owning IX Mars is in the sub ofRahu a full significator
ofVII.

The inspector wanted to knowifhe would own a house during

1994.

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 Mohan started discussion Mercwy bukthi ifit can bring a house
for him. mercury signifies I & IX thro star and vn thro sub. So no
owning a house in this bukthi.

Then he took up Ketu bukthi (from 13-6-95 to 1-7-96) Ketu

is in the star ofVenus in II, owning VI & XI and in the sub ofMars in
I, owning V & XII; duly placed in the star of Sun in I owning IX
(Moon in IX)

So Kethu also ruled out.

Then Mohan took up Venus bukthi ( 1-7-96 to 1-7-99) Venus

is in II, in the star ofMoon in IX owning VIII.

And Venus in the sub ofits OWn & so again IX & VIII.

II & IX will make you to make serious attempt for getting a

house only. But actually no purchase could be made.

Then Sun bukthi (from 1-7-99 to 25-5-2000) Sun is in lagna.

&owns IX.

Sun is in the star ofVenus in II, owning VI & XI. Houses IX,
II & XI tells about owning a 'house. This is stellar strength.

SWl is in the sub ofJupiter in IV owner ofIV and no planet in

its stars and so fully signifies IV., and Jupiter is in the star ofMercury
in I owning X & no planet in X.

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 Mohan told him that he would own a house duly parting with
Some house hold jewelleryas ~th cusp sub lord is Mars, owning V in
in
the star of Sun in I and subofRabu Vlt; and connected to Xand
represents Mercury ih the star ofVenus in II. ··,

Mr.Ravi a close friend of Mr. Mohan his birth nativity is

discussed here below:-

His date of birth is 28-10-1962 and the time ofbirth is 11-20

a.m. 1ST. Place ofbirth is Chennai 13°-40" I 80°-17"

IV2-26-35 v 1-26-35 _vn

VI27-26-33 . 23-41-00

III29-26-35. Rah 10-47-8

Jupiter(R) Nirayana Bhava Mars 14-51-43
9-29-51 VID23-26-35
Chakram
1123-26-35
Balance in Rahu
Saturn period at birth
IX29-26-35
ll-43-19 Yrs.l6-8-13days
Ket.I0-47-8

I Xll27-26-35 Sun 11-0-4

23-41-00 Venus(R) Moon Mercury
3-47-00 . 7-37-39 24-25-42
XI 1-26-35 X2-26-35

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 Pla11et Sublord Planet Sublord
Sun Saturn Venus Satmn
Moon Rahu Saturn Mars
Mars Rahu Rahu Sun
Mercury Rahu Kethu Moon
Jupiter Jupiter

Mr. Ravi was born in Dhanus lagna at 23-41 & it is ruled by

Saturn as sub lord.

Saturn is in lagna in the star of Moon in X owning VIII. No

planet in Vlll.

Saturn is in the sub ofMars in VII, Mars is in the star ofSaturn

inLagna

So there is a strong combination of VIII thro star and I thro

sub. Hence it is final that the native is well promised with a longivity
_ that side of66 years as lagna cusp sub lord signifies I & VIII thro its
sub lord.

Why I discussed the strength oflagna only is to tell the student

that longivity is seen only by the strength oflagna alone and also for
one more argument by Mr. Gopi.

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 Mr. Gopi the student ofMohan was critically arguing with him
when Mr. Ravi wa5 running the major period ofJupiter, which signifies
VII thro its star lord Rahu & thro its own sub again Vll.. Is not VII a
bhadaka and maraka for Dhanus lagna?

Mohan was adament in not explaining his student Gopi strongly

and gave him a counter question why all these who receive payments.
( it is sure payments are there and the native should be ~ing lind
signification a maraka house then) do not die at once on these days.

Gopi could not catch it. it was well p::>inted out that the longivity
is to be assured thro lagna cusp sub lord as explained above and any
period corning before the assessed qate will not trouble his life and
on the contrary money will be paid only. IfVII operates marriage
only and not death as all do not die on the day ofhis marriage.

This should be borne in mind by all students while offering

predictions.

Mr. Ravi got marri~d on 8-8-9~. it was Jupiter period, Rahu

bukthi Saturn anthra and Kethu sookshama.

Let us discuss what Jupiter says.

Jupiter is in the star ofRahu in VII & being in its own sub,
again VII. So marriage is promised in Jupiter period. .Rahu bukthi is
from 17-2-93 to 11-7-95 how is Rahu?

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 Rahu is in Vll (Sun is in Rahu star) and Rahu is in the star of
Saturn in I owning II & III so Rahu fully signifies I & III.

Rahu is in the sub ofSun (No planet in Sun Star) & Sun is in
X and owns IX.

And sun is in the star ofRahu in VII. and so Rahu tbro sub
signifies Vllfully.

On marriage date, it was the Anpua ofSaturn (from 19-6-93

· to 13-11-93) Saturn is in I in the star of Moon in X Saturn is in the
sub ofMars in Vll. Placed in the star ofSaturn in I owning II & ill.

It was the sookshama ofKethu from 3-8-93 to 11-8-93 Ketu

is in lagna, in the star of Moon in X and so signifies I, VIII and X.
Ketu is the sub of Moon and Moon is in the star ofRahu in VII.

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 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

Mr. G. is a Central Government employee and he was born

I
on 18-12-1958 at 11-45 p.m. at Hampi. 150-9"N 760-55'E
Ayanamsa 23-15-48.

The Horoscope is as under :

Planet Sublord Planet Sub/ord

Sun Sun Venus Mercury
Moon Mars Saturn Moon
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Jupiter Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Venus

Kethu Mars X XI
25-28-55 23-20-12 25-15-8 25-15-8
VIII24-15-8 IX25-15-8
Moon 12-25-25

VII XII
24-33-40 Nirayana Bhava
24-15-8
Chakram
Balance in Saturn
VI Period I
24-15-8 6 Y - 0 M - 17 Days 24-33-40

V25-15-8 Jupiter
Venus 12-10-10 IX25-15-8 ll24-15-8
Mercury(R) 28-10-20 Rahu
Sat4-39-3l Jll25-25-8
Sun3-4-55 16-18-2 25-28-55

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 Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord
I Mercury VII Mercury
II Rahu VIII Rahu
III Mercury IX Mercury
IV Rahu X Rahu
v Mercury .XI Mercury
VI Rahu XII Rahu

He entered Government service on 18-10-82, and it was the

major period ofKethu ( 5-1-82 to 5-1-89) Let us discuss what Kethu
promises. Kethu is in VTII, in the star ofMercury in III owning II &
XI.

Kethu in the sub ofRahu a full significator ofll as Rahu is in ll

and no planet in Rahu stars. So it can be construed that Kethu has
good benefic significations.

It was the bukthi ofVenus when he entered service. Has Venus

~ything-to do with service. Venus is in IV, in the star ofKethu in VIII .
is bad. But Venus is in the sub ofMercury owning II & XI and placed
in the star Saturn owning VI and no planet in VI. S<? signifies VI fully.
. .
So he entered service in this bukthi only.

He was elevate~ to a Gazetted status during December'91.

It was then the major period ofVenus and bukthi ofVenus.

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 As discussed above Venus thro star signifies VIII fully and
thro sub lord Mercury signifies VI fully and so elevation.

He got married on 31-1-1987. It was then the bukthi of Saturn

(2-1 2-86 to 11 -1-88).

Saturn owns VII in VI in the star ofKethu in VIII and in the

sub ofMoon in VII a full significator ofVII, as no planet in its stars
and further placed in the star ofSaturn owning VII.

He came to me to know ifhe has luck to go overseas and ifso,

when?

I looked in to the Xllth cusp and it was ruled by Rahu as subloni.

Rahu is in the star of Mars, owning IX and no planet in IX.

Rahu is in the sub ofits own, and so again signifies IX. So there is a
clear indication ofhis going overseas.

As Rahu the sub lord stands for Mercury a full significator of

VI, I told him that he may be going overseas, connected to his service
preferably during Rahu bukthi i.e. between March 97 and March
2000.

- The purpose of this horoscope being included here, only to

.
bring home to the students how, Venus .
a full signifcator
.
ofVIII thro
star, could bring him a big house in its bukthi and a high status service
wise. How?

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 Venus is in the sub of Mercury in III owning II & XI and
placed in the star ofSaturn and thus signifies VI fully.

Now I take up the horoscope of Sow. Kanchana born on

31 -3/l-4-52 at 4-20 am. (Monday ffuesday) at Chennai 13°-04'I
80°-17' Ayanamsa 23 -10-47.
Mercury
25-33-47 Jup0-7-30 Moon
ill22-14-48 VI20-14-48 2-20-24
ll2().40..23
Sun 17-58-21 v 16-14-48
Venus ! .
25-44-37 VI13-t4-48
I 15-15-37
RahuS-27-12 Nirayana,Bhava
Cbakram
Balance in Mars period Keth u
XII 5-27-22
13-14-48
2 Yrs. 3Months 8 Days
VII
15-15-37
Mars Saturn
, ·xr X . 18-28-28
25-1-28
16- 14-48 20-14-48 VITI
IX22- 14-48
20-40-23

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Stm Mercwy Venus Mercury
Moon Kethu Saturn Mercury
Mars Mercury Rahu Sun
Mercury Rahu Kethu Mars
Jupiter Kethu

She got married on 19-8-88 & it was the major period of

Saturn (from 9,.7-88 for 1~ ye(U's).

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 So it was Saturn bukthi itselfwhen marriage took place Saturn
is in VII & no planet in Saturn star and so fully signifies VII. Saturn is
inthe sub ofMercury & M~::.rcury is in its own star in VI duly owning
V & VIII no planet in V Jc VIII. So Saturn get VII Signification
thro star and' II & V thro sub and so the marriage took place then.

The native attained 36 years ofAge & why the period ofJupiter
which ended by 9-7-88 did not bring about the marriage.

Let us discuss Jupiter.

Jupiter is in II and owns II & XI and so fully signifies II & XI.

It is good signification for bringing out marriage. But Why? Jupiter is
in the sub ofKethu, placed in Vliil its own star and so marri~ge
could not come up in Jupiter period. · ··

She got 2 children on 29-10-1989 and another 29-10-1991

both dates fall in Sanun bukthi.

Let us discuss how Saturn gave children. Saturn as told above,

though signifies VII, having been placed in the star ofMoon IV also.
Then how children in this bukthi?
. . . ·. .. --·-· -·
_As already stated. Saturn being placed m the sub ofMercury,
in II owning V brought about child birth also.

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*
 Mr. Kulothungan born at 11-50 A.M. 1ST on 26-12-1958 at
Chennai 130°4' /80°17' Ayanamsa 23-1548.

Planet Sublord Planet Sublord

Sun Saturn Venus Jupiter
Moon Saturn Saturn Mars
Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu
Mercury Mercury Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Moon

The birth chart is as under.

Kethu 1110-18 1V6-18

25-5-30 Mars m I0-18 Moon
16-19-49 23-35-53 / ll-5649 .

XILI
Nirayana Bhava v 2-18
2-18
Chakram
Balance in Rahu period
12 Yrs. 10 Months
XI 14 Days
2-18 VI 2-18

Ven.21-35-15
Mercury VII6-1949
Sun 10-43-18 Jup29-39-6
18-18-32 Rahu
X6-l8 VIII 10-18
IX 10-18 25-5-30
Sat5-32-29
The native of this chart got married on 19-8-1983 and it was
the bukthi ofRahu ( 16-8-1982 to 10-1-1985). Rahu is in VII, in
the star of Mars in II arid in its owns sub & so fully signifies II. Rahu
being a Node and in its own sub it fully represents Mercury a full
significator ofVII and so marriage took place in this bukthi.

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 He entered service as AEE!INEB during November 1985 . It
was then the period of Saturn and bukthi of Saturn from 10-19.85 to
13-l-88.

Let us see how Saturn placed in IX is connected to give him

good service.

Saturn is in IX in the star ofKethu is Lagna & in the sub of

Mars in ll duly placed in the star ofVenus in X. So it is well connected
to the house ofprofession X, thro its sub lord.

From 1980 till the end of Jupiter period i.e. January 85, he
changed many a service why?

Jupiter owned I & X & there are planets in I & X.

Jupiter is in Vlli in its own star and so fully signifies VIII. VID
stands breaks.

Jupiter is in the sub of Moon in IV owning V & no planet in

Moon star and so IV & V. As regards to service, IV & V are
Cletriment significations.

. So, in Jupiter period he was much unsettled in his service life.

Further I take up a Horary ofdiscussion.

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*
 My friend Mr. D.S. came to me with a query as under: -land
to the tune of hundreds of acres, in my name will be with me for
another 20 years? My no. for Horary is 200.

I made out the Horary figure for the Number 200 at 1-50 p.m.
IST on 20-3-1995 and it is as under:

Cusp Sub lord Cusp Sub lord

I Mercury VI Mercury
II Saturn vm Saturn
III Jupiter IX Jupiter
IV Sm X Venus
v Mars XI Mars
VI Mars XII Rahu

Kethu
lll26-49-5 13-51-1 V2349-5 Vl19-49-5
Sun5-29-32 JV26-49-5

Saturn 22-59-32
II 2249-5 Vll7-46-40
Mercury
Nirayana Horary Mars(R)
13-52-1 5 Chart 19-31-1

Venus
Ayanamsa: 23°45'57" vm
26-51-3
I 21-49-5
17-46-40

Xl23-49-5 X 26-49-5
XII IX26-49-5
Jupiter Moon 19-4-41
1949-5 Rahul3-5J-l
21-33-3

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 Planet Sub lord Planet Sub lord
SWl Mercury Venus Jupiter
Moon Moon Saturn Satwn
Mars Venus Rahu Mercury
Mercury Mercury Kethu Venus
Jupiter Venus

As usual I looked in to the sub lord ofLagna cusp, Mercury.

Mercury is in lagna itself, placed in the star ofRahu in IX.

IX is the signification attained by Lagna lord and in~ ofthe

query, IX is very good & this tells firmly that land cannot go away to
other as IX is the Vrayasthana for X, which is the house oflands for
the other man.

Mercury is in the sub ofits own and so again IX. it is good sign
for the matter queried in this Horary figure.

As the query is about lands, N cusp is to be looked into.

Nth cusp sublord is Sun.

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*
 Sun is in,II and no planet in Sun's star and so signifies II fully,
Sun is in the star ofSaturn in II and so again II.

It is good as II stands for possession for any body.

Sun is in the sub of Mercury, placed in the star ofRahu in IX.

So it tells that the said land cannot leave his hands and he
continues to own it for 20 years with no interference.

Yesterday i.e. on 1-4-95 he came and told me that the takeover

of these lands by Government had been dropped.

II .

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* Sub- Lord Speaks
 I SU B L ORD SPEAKS
l
This is one ofmy v~ous articles under the above caption,
published in this magazine from 1989.

I had made it clear in so many ofmy articles on the above

subject i.e. , sub1ord , in the other magazines also.

Whether it is a planet or CUSPAL SUBLORD these are

controlled by the relevant sublord & it significations only.

As regards to a planet, the matter is seen thro the star lord

ofthat planet and the SUB LORI) ofthat planet decides the result
& how the matter is altered & enjoyed and suffered by the native.
WhilewetakethesublordoftheCUSP(allknowtheSUBLORD
is a PLANET), we must be more care, whi le dealing with the
subject.

As told above, the CUSPAL SUBLORD is a PLANET. ·

Here we must finalise the efficiancy ofthe CUSPAL SUB LORD,
by finding out the signification ofCUSPAL sublord and any period
runs under that planet signifying that House (CUSP), effects to
·get altered in those terms.

To be more clear for the students ofK.P. I like to discuss

the following birth chart, as an example.

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Krislmamurthi Padhdhati
*
 is
It the birth chart ofMr.R. born; on 10-03-1943 at 9.00
P.MISTatcoimbatore 11°-00/77°-00Ayanasma used 230-3'-15"

Planet Sub lord Planet Su b lord

Sun Ketu Venus Moon
Moon Rahu Sat ·Rahu
Mars Venus Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Kethu · Mercury
Jupiter Saturn

Ven us 3°- 47'-1 5 3°-57" 2°-57"1X

23-9-33 VII Vlli Jupiter(R)
3°-57"VI Moon Saturn 22-745
19-48-45 13.3030
Sun26-8-30
Mer.6-548
Nirayana Bhava 1°-57" X
2°-ST'V
Ketu0-48-0 Chakram
Balance in Venus
Mars period at birth Rahu
8-36-24 Yrs.l 0-6-16 days 0-48-9
1°-5T'IV 2°-57" XI

2°-57' ASC 3°-57"

3°-57"II
III 3°-47'-15" XII

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* Sub - Lord Speaks .
 Cusp Sub lord Cusp Sub lord
I Venus VII Moon
II Sannn VIII sannn
m Venus IX Venus
IV Jupiter X Rahu
.· v . Venus XI Venus
XI Satwn XII Saturn

From birth for a time 'bound period of 10 yrs, 6 months & 1~

days, it was Venus major period. Let us discuss Venus in this nativity. ·
Venus owns lagna Cusp & is in VI, in the star of MERCURY in V &
so signifies V & XII. Venus is the sub ofMoon, placed in VII, duly
tenanting the star ofVenus in VI owning Lagna Cusp.

So this period ofVenus is taken to be a good one, as Venus

had obtained the VI in lagna signification thro sub -lord and hence a
status should have been maintained. It had not happened. Now
took in to the VI cusp sublord & find out what it has to say.

It is saturn in VIII (No planet in saturn star) & so signifies

VIII fully. Saturn in the star of Moon in VII, owning X & so Vlll
only. (Rahu in X). Saturn in the sub ofRahu, duly placed inthe star of
KETU inN. So a bad detriment for VI CUSP let us turn to the lagna
CUSP. Lagna CUSP sublord also need, a discussion. The SUB
LORD is VENUS. Venus is in VI in the star ofMercury in V and so
V & XII fully. Venus in the Sub ofMoon duly placed in the star of
Venus in VI & so VI & I. So such a period of VENUS, which it
stands VI & I Lagna CUSP maintained good signification, has given
the body some material status. but was rendered bad also the extent
ofblinding him with sudden loss ofeye sight

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*
 '•

Next period of Sun from Sep 53 to Sep 59. Sun in V & Sun
owns XI (Mars in Sun's star) Sun is in there star ofJupiter in IX & so
signifies fully IX & ill. Sun in the sub ofKetu & so signifies N & II ~
with the matter of IX & ITI, ended in IV & II under sublord, there
must be some good income for the native. It is not the case. Why?
The sub lord significators are N & ll. The sublord ofthe lind CUSP
is SATURN. Saturn-is in Vlll (No planet in Saturn stars)&
so fully signifies VIII and saturn in the star ofmoon in VII owning X
(Rahu in X). So saturn fully signifies VII & VIII. Saturn in the sub of
RAHU signifYing IV. so lind had been ~ndered vexyweak & nothing
can be expected out ofllnd Cusp. The other signification ofiV to be
discussed. The Sublord ofthe IVth CUSP is Jupiter, Jupiter signifies
III & IX fully under stellar,strength. Jupiter in the sub of Saturn in
r
VID (No planet in Saturn star) & so VII fully & Saturn in the star of
Moon in VII & so VII fully so VII & VIII fully.

Hence though sub signifies II & IV thro sub, the two houses
are rendered very weak, as explained above arid Sun signifying such
Houses, have rendered Sun period very weak & bad. In this period,
he was reduced to a street beggar & as he got the talent ofplaying on
a flute under a particular tree small changes were thrown in his hands.
Then comes the major pe~od ofMoon from Sep'59 to Sep'69 Moon
is in VII & owns. X (Rahu in X) & Saturn in Moon star. Moon is in
the star ofVenus in VI & so VI & I fully Moon, in the Sub ofRahu in
X (No planet in Rahu stars) & so X fully. Rahu in the star ofKetu in
IV & so IV also.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 ·-
Hence in this period under stellar strength, signifies VI & I. It
is fine & under Sub lord•strength X with IV, so , this period should
have elevated him financially & materially in general. Let us see what
his Xth CUSP tells. The sublord ofthe Xth cusp in Rahu and as told
above. Rahu signifies X & IV under stellar strength. Rahu in the Sub
ofVenus, duly placed in the star of Mercury & so signifies V & XII.
Coming to IV in Cusp ofSublord, it is Jupiter, Jupiter in his own star
in IX & owns IV & so IX & III, as no planet tenans Ill.

Being in the Sub of Saturn in VIII (No planet in Saturn Star)

signifies Vill fully. Saturn being in the star ofMoon in Vll signifies
Vll also. So summing up. this period ofMoon has detriment faculties
only. as the Sub significations of Moon are rendered very very weak
as discussed above. So in Moons period he continued to be a begger,
as told above. Then comes the major·period of Mars from Sep 69 to
Sep 76. Mars is in the star of Sun in V. Owning XI (No planet in
XI). So V & XI. Mars in t he sub ofVenus in VI. duly placed inthe
star ofMercury in V owning IX & XII (Jupiter in IX) & so V & XII
fully.

So MARS period shall be deemed to be a vecy bad period, as

per star signification ofV & ~· ~d thro Sub signification ofV and
XII. As V & XII is dominant, he should suffer dire peruny, in this
period ofMars, But actually he is taken in railway as a class IV staff,
as handicapped person under rehabilitation policy ofdowntrodden
·&poor, with the advent of Mars period. Th~ sub. ly1ars signifies V
& XII. What does Vth cusp sublord tells? It is Ve~us.

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 Venus is in VI (There is Moon in Venus star ) So does not
signify VI. And Venus inthe Venus in the sub of Moon, owning X
duly placed inthe star ofVenus in VI & so VI & I. Corning to Xllth
CUSP, the sublord is Saturn. Saturn signifies VIII fully along with
VII.

But Saturn in the Sub ofRahu in X (No planet in Rahu stars)

&soX fully.

So the sublord strength ofMars being V & XII, have attained

VI I & X under Cuspal strength, Hence in result. From the state of
beggary, dragged into a life ofdecency in social life, with a Railway
service. Next he is in the major period ofRahu from Sep 76 to Sep
94. Rahu in X, no planet in Rahu star & so X fully. Rahu in the star of
Ketu in IV & so IV also fully Rab.u in the Sub ofVenus, duly, placed
in the star of Mercury in V owning IX ?& XII (Jupiter in IX ) & so
signifies v & xn fully.

So discuss the Vth Cusp & assess the strength. Vth Cusp
sublord is Venus, Venus signifies V &XII, thro star and signifies VI &
I, as it is in the Sub of Moon duly placed inthe star of Moon. XII
Cusp sublord is saturn. Saturn signifies Villth fully along with VII
and begin in the Sub ofRahu, signifies X fully along with IV As the
relevant Cuspal Sublords point to X, VI & I fully, Rahu period
continued him in profession, service, as a result ofthem ~ial status
also.

Jupiter is in IX, in its owns star and so IX & ill fully.

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Sub - Lord Speaks
 Now he is in the major period of Jupiter from Sep 94 for 16
years. Jupiter on the Sub of Saturn. & so signifies VIII & VII. These
sublord significations of VIII & VII, does not point to a life with
person stability & a social status. But he Sublord ofthe VIIIth Cusp
is saturn & so ~t signifies VIII & VII & thro its sublord Rahu signifies
X &IV. And the sub lord of the VIIIth Cusp is Moon. Moon is in
vn in the star ofVenus in VI & so VI & I. And Moon in the sub of
'
a
Rahu & so X & IV. X & IV and X & IV gives him good domestic
happiness and good re occupational status also.

It is a true history ofa individual whom I know personality &

ling power. The articles is written only to shop that a period gives
strictly in terms of its star and sublord significations, duly prw1ed by
the real strength of the relevant CUSPAL positior, connected to the
planetary sublord signification. coming to his eye matters, ifone turns
to II & XII in CUSPAL position, that stands for both eyes, you will
find bad significations for both the CUSPS.

Let me discuss this. lind Cusp sublord is Saturn, Saturn is i~

VIII, no planet in Saturn stars, so fully signifies VIII, Saturn in the star
of Moon in VTI & so VII also. Saturn inthe Sub of Rahu & so
signifies X & IV. So the lind Cusp has detriment signification ofVIII
& IX; VII & X cannot help the matter (II for right eye & genernlly for
both eyes). XIIth Cusp sublord is saturn again. As discussed it is
Vill & IV; Vll & X. The same result for left eye. Hence in blindness.

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 Finally, I like to bring to the knowledge of the students ofK.P.
that the Sub lord of planet tells the fructification of certain matters,
shown by the Sublord & the result either good or bad in terms of the
signification of the sublord. The quality & quantity of the result is
simply assessed thro the signification attained by the Sublord of the
planet ruling the relevant CUSP. This is final in KRISHNAMURTHY
PADDHATHl

At this Juncture I like tb advice the students of K. P. to please

read the matter given in the lectureofMr.N. Mohan on 31.05.97 at
the International astrological conference by Mr. Mittal at Chandigarh
on 31.05.97 and 10.06.1997 where Mr. Mohan dwelt on the above
subject separately & very clearly.

By reading this, the students will be cleared of the interaction

on this subject matter, altogether, the Souvenir available with MR.
HARIHARN, the IIIrd son of our great "GURUll SRI K.S.K." and
I

also with MR. Ml'ITAL'at CHANDIGARH.

I am of fmn opinion that the students will not miss reading the
same to have a clear vision of the above subject. I thank very much
the EDITOR Sri. K. SUBRAMANIAM for allotting space in this
esteemed magazine. K.P. &ASTROLOGY.

.* Sub- Lord Speaks 148

 I SUB LORD SPEAKS
This time I am discl!ssing the birth of my friend Mr.
l
Parthasarathy of Chrompet.

Born at 5-55a.m . 1ST on 24/25-3/1952 at Bombay

11 °-55 '17 2°-54. Ayanamsa: 23°-10'47"

Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Moon Venus Venus
Moon Moon Saturn Mercury
Mars Mercury Rahu Moon
Mercury Jupiter Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Saturn

Jup. 281l28' 28'" m v

Mer. 27'14'27" ll2o:1'4 1" 30]'4 1' '
24'13'41"
Sun II cry' 16"' N21Jl3'41 "
Moon 008' 43"
Ascendant
I 26°1 '30" VI
"Ven.11l1 1'30" Nirayana Bhava 2:203 '41 " -
Rahu 5°49' 16" Chakram
Balance in Jupiter
period Kethu
XII22°3'41" 5°49'16"
3 Y- 9 m - 25 days
VII
26°1'30"

Mars
X29'13'41" Saturn
X124°3'41 25°17' 13"
IX3°3'4l/ 19'11'8"
Vlll2o:l'41"
i '
..

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*
 He was running the major period of Mercury from January75
to January 92. In this period he was doing independent business life
and is went on very well.

-
Let us discuss Mercury Significance.

Mercury is in I, in its own star & so fully signifies I, V. Mercury

is in the Sub of Jupiter, signifying I & XI. Sub lord signification of
Mercury that is I & XI. had given him good status in society and high
income.

All through this period he was rising from one standard of

financial status to another.

His peak period in his business life was from 1984 to 1989.

Then he was running the bukthi of Rahu and Jupiter when he

made very good money. Rahu is in x:n, in the star of Mars in VII &
Mercury owns II, X. Rahu is the sub of Moon and so signifies I &
XI. Stellar signification of ll & X has been boosted by Sub lord
signification II & XI and he made high income.

Then Jupiter is in Lagna Bhava, in the star of~ercury in Lagna

and so fully signifies I & V. Being in the Sub of Saturn, signifies I & .
VI. What financial status he got in Rahu, he will maintain in Jupiter
bukthi.

It was Saturn bukthi in Mercury period from May 89 to January

92.

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,.
 Saturn is in VII, in the star ofMoon in I & in the sub ofMercury
in I, in its own star and own.s V & VITI. There is a planet in Vill & so
I & V only. The lagna sigrification, well maintained his status but the
V one gave him financial deplition. Bank Account went down. Faced
lot of trouble from business quarters.

Then he started the major period of Ketu from 20.1.1992 and

it is for 7 years.

With the advent ofKetu he faced serious financial trouble.

Let me discuss, Ketu.

Ketu is in VI, in its own star, and so fully signifies VI. VI tells
high flow and bank balance soreing up.

Then how.

Ketu of course full significator of VI, this is the matter. VI

when connected to benefits, there will be bank balance going up.

If on the reserve, that is if connected to bad sub lord, the same

VI iii matter will be converted to running after debts.

It happened so in this person's life.

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 Here in the birth chart, Ketu is in the sub ofRahu duly placed
in the star of Mars in VITI and so VI is transformed to VIII, and there
was fmancial depletion. And then trouble started and with the advent
of Venus bukthi in by June 92, matters have become too bad, let him
completely close his business.

Why? Let us discuss Venus.

Venus is in Xll and no planet in Venus star and so fully signifies

XII, HI & IV.

And Venus is in the star of Rahu in XII.

These signification tell matters. It matters nothing.

Look in to the Sublord. It is Venus itself and so it gets the

signification ofXII, IV fully. So the position has reached the status of
gloom and he has no other alternative then to close the entire show in
this bukthi iT'l the beginning itself.

In 17-8-93 he restarted the business happily. What is the period

then? It is the b_ukthi of Sun from 17-8-93 and Sun is in the star of
Saturn in VII and in the sub of Moon, a full significator I & XI.

Now the native is questioning me, ifhe has wilful getting a very
huge amount.

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 I worked out and it is the bukthi of Rahu froin 20-12-94 to 8-
1-96. I di scussed Rahu and it is in XII, in the star of Mars in VIII,
owning II and X.

And Rahu is in the sub of Moon, a full significator of I & XI. I

told him though he cannot get to the full of20 Lakhs but to some
extent; as bukthi is powerful but has not Dasa lord Ketu, as discussed
in the beginning.

Coming back I like to discuss his marriage date which fell on

18 ~6-8~. Then it was th e bhukthi Rahu ( 17-7-84 to 5-2-87). Rahu
is in XII in the star of Mars in VITI owning II, IX & X., in the sub of
Moon duly signifying I & XI. As node Rahu represents Saturn in
VII. So aJ I told there is continuation of II, IX, VIII, XI & VII. So
marriage during Rahu bukthi.

Then he got a child on 18-12-89 and it was Saturn bukthi

from 11-5-89 to 20-1-94. Saturn is in VII in the star of Moon in
lagna and so signifies I & VI. It is sub lord Mercury in I is in the star
owning V, and no planet in V. So Saturn get full signification of V and
so a child in that bukthi.

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*
 I SUB LORD SPEAKS

I rake up the Horoscope of Mr. Snehasish Dos of Calcutta-9

I
forclis o :ssion.

He wa<; born at 7-15 p.m. on 12.7.1956 at 22°-34'/88°-24'.

Ayanamsa; 23.14.8.
IV 1°46" Mercury
Ke.l2°35'30" 18<1'23'41"
ill2°46'
v 26°46" VI21°46"
Ven.2~' 1 3'50" Sun 26°56'42"
Sun 26-8-30
Mer. 6-5-48 vu
Nirayana Bhava 19041'52"
241-S'r'V
Ketu0-48-0 Chakram
Balance in Sun
period at birth Jupiter
I 19°4 I ' 52" 5 Y- 4 M- 13 days 7039'24"
Vll21l46'
Moon 2804'7"
XI 26°46"
Ra. I 20)5'30''
Xll21°46" IX2°46"
Sat.( R) 3° 11 ' 41 "
X 1°46" I
Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
Sun Venus Venus Saturn
to. 'loon Moon Saturn Rahu
Mars Mercury Rahu Mars
Mercury Moon Ketu Rahu
Jupiter Jupiter

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 The native of this birth chart wro~e to me that he is not getting
good and well paying jobs despite the fact that he is an Engineering
Graduate and Hons in Chemical Science. ·

he
Above is his birth chart and now is running the major period
of Rahu from Nov.l978 to Nov. 1996.

He alsO added that he is now in an organisation V(ith bad fmancial

conditions and with the result, his emoluments are being stagnated as
such suffering to run a big family, which he has to look after.

Let us discuss Rahu.

Rahu is in X, in the star of Saturn in X owning I & III So Rahu

is a full significator of II & X, fully and Lagna feebly.

The star lord signification is fine and why he is suffering to get a

good and paying job.

Look in to the Sublord ofRahu.

It is Mars, Mars is in Lagna, owning ID, X & XI. Then result

should be very good. Why bad again. Look in to the planets stars if
they are tenanted.

Yes, Venus is in Mrigaseersham owned by Mars and so Mars

cannot signify I, ill, X, IX. Then see the star-lord of Mars and it is in
the star of Jupiter in VII owning XII, no planet in XII.
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 So the Dasa lord Rahu is in the Sub of a planet fully signifying
VII & XII. Both bad. VII, delays for any matter he takes up and
XII, status seriously affected and financially troubled.

I take up another Horoscope of Sri A.D. Advani of Bombay

for discussion.

. . 0
He was born at 2-00 P.M. on 29- 11 -54 at Bombay 18 -55'/
72°-54' .

Ayanam.sa 23-12-27.

IV5°1'34"
I Kethu
II 10')'34'' III~'I'34"
4(1 19'21"
13°55'29"

V0°1 '3 4"

Jupiter(R)
Mars 31'16'47" ·.Nirayana Bhava 6'28' 51"
Chakram VI2901'34"
Balance in Venus
xn zgo r 34" period at birth
XHf1'34" 1 Y - 6 M - 27 days.

Moon Mer2<1' 13'47"

2511J6'56"' Sun Venus (R) VII
Rahu 13''22'9" 22°19'53" 4°19'2 1''
13°55'29" IX~I'34" .Sat21°46'2"
X511 1'34" VIII HY'I'34"

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 Planets Sub lord Planets Sub lord
Sun Rahu Venus Saturn
Moon Mercury Saturn Jupiter
Mars Venus Rahu Venus
Mercury Sun Ket:u Mercury
Jupiter Mercury

The native of this horoscope is in service in a private firm from

20- 11-1985.

Let us see if the date has relevance with the period then. It
was Rahu Maha Dasa from 26-6-79 for 18 years and while entering
service it was Jupiter Bukthi (8 -3 -82 to 2-8-84).

Jupiter is in V and there are planets in Jupiter star and so Jupiter

does not signify V, I & X.

Jupiter is in the star of Saturn in VIII owning XI and XII. No

planet in XI and Mars is in XII. So it signifies XI & VUI only. ·

This does not tell employment.

Look in to the sub of Jupiter. It is Mercury, Mercury has no

planet in its stars and so signifies VII fu lly, along with Vlll.

Mercury in the star of Jupiter in V, owing I & X. So the X in

significator has bought him service and not to his satisfaction.

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 He had a short trip to MUSCAT on 18.1 J.94 and returned to
Bombay on 20.1 1.94 in connection with a foreign assignment and it
was a failure.

It was then Sun Bukthi ( 14-1-94 to 8-12-94).

Let us see how Sun is connected to Air Travel to foreign coantty.

Sun is in IX and no planet in its star and so signifies IX fully.

Sun is in the star of Saturn in VIII, owning XII & so XII

feebly as Mars is there.

Sun is in the sub of Rahu in X placed in the star of Venus,

owning ill & VIII (These are planets in Vll) so Sun signifies ill fully
through Sub.

So the full significator of IX and feeble significator of XII for

Sun under stellar strength has been given a support by full III
signification of Sun through sub.

So had a flight to foreign land on a very short duration and it

was a futile one as regards to profession, as there was no significations
of either VI or X though sub in Sub bukthi, which ended by
8-12-94.

Mr. Advani, the native of his birth chart is very anxious to

know if he has any job opportunity abroad.

Let us discuss Moon bukthi (8-12-94 to 8-6-96). Moon is

in X in the star of Venus in VITI and in the Sub of Mercury in VIII,
owning IV & VII. ( No planet in Mercury star). So thro Sub,

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Moon does not signify either, IX or XII to go abroad on the contrary
signifies Vlli & IV fully, a detriment signification for going aborad it
indicates that he is prone to Accident in this bukthi.

Next comes the bukthi of Mars from 8-6-96 and is up to

26-6-97.

Mars is a full significator of XII, feebly IX, as no planet tenants

its star and is in its own star. So matter is more connected to foreign
travels.

Mars is in the Sub of Venus owning ill & XII, there are planets
in VIII and no planet in III. So Venus fully signifies III. This tells
travel abroad, in terms of matter of IX & XII.

Venus is in the star of Jupiter 'in V owning I & X. So Venus

fully connected to X.

Hence there is a possibility to travel again to foreign country

for an as signment. He writes to me in his letter, that his marriage was
fixed to be celebrated in the month ofFeb._82 and was postponed
and held on 11-3-82 due to demise of his maternal grand mother. ·

Let us discuss why not celebrated during Feb.82.

It was Rahu bukthi from 26-6-79 to 8-3-82. Let us see if

Rahu.is connected to _maternal house or not.

Rahu is in X, in the star of Venus in Vill and in the sub ofVenus

and so signifies V, VI, X. Here II, VII or XI not coming in to the
scene.

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 The sub lord Venus, signifies III, fully and V fully, III & V
should have given him the status of betrothal, but cannot give him
marriage.

From 8-3-82 to 2-8-84 it was Jupiter bukthi, marriage was

postponed and held on 11-3-82: Let us see how Jupiter is connected
to marriage.

Jupiter is in V, in the star of Saturn in VID, owning XI & XII.

So Jupiter fully signifies XI and feebly V & XII.

Jupiter is in the sub of the Mercury Vill, owning IV & VII (No
planet in Mercury stars and there are planets in IV).

So Jupiter acquires the signification of VII fully.

Mercury is in the star of Jupiter again and so V fully.

Hence the VII signification sub allowed the marriage to take

place in Jupiter bukthi after 8-3-82 only.

Child was born to him on 23-5-1983. Then it is the bukthi

Jupiter from 8-3-82 to 2-8-84.

Jupiter is in V & in the star of Saturn in Vlli owning XI & XII,

(there are planets in Jupiter star and Mars is in XII). So Jupiter
signifies only VIII & XI fully ~d feebly V.

Then how child in Jupiter bukthi. Look into the Sub, It is in the
sub of Mercury.

Mercury again in the star of Jupiter in V. So V acted and there

is a child.

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l
I feel that K.P. Students are benefitted my Articles under the
above caption, and I continue the Articles for the sake of students.
But I get letters for clarification. viz. in some cases the sub lord
signifies for instance, marriage and the mauer is not at all shown by
the star lord signification, is it that we should ignore the star lord
position and signification.

Never I like to reitarate that star lord signification is as equally

important as sub lord.

Of course, the star lord might not have signified the Vllth
signification, but sub lord indicated VII and marriage concluded.
~~.

Here at such places, kindly look into the significator under star
lord, in which houses it is situ ated and it is a node, if fully presents its
house lord and its signification and it might show VII.

Ifnot, say the lord signifies, IV, which not an encouraging factor
f?r marriage and thr~ the sub lord significator of VII, marriage had
come up.

If you still probe into the matter, the IV cusp sublord and its
signification, would definitely signify VII and then only the marriage
comes up.

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 I feel I have made the matter cleat for all and particularly to the
student who queried Mr. Mohan thro letter.

Take it for granted the IVth cusp sub lord had not signified the
relevant marital houses then only comes the issue.

Then comes the rectification of the birth time and the IVth cusp
will be arranged and rearranged to signify VII and this is a surer way
of arriving at the correct birth time.

In Natal chart, the cuspal degrees are not completely

dependable.

Now, I take up the horoscope of Mr. Kannan born on

7-9-1933 at 1-28 noon IST at Alangayam 12 -4 1 I 78-39.
Ayanamsa 22-54-52.

Moon
291148'39" V 12o:32'5T' VI'P32'57" vn
- 5o:34'19"
IV ll!IJ2'5T'

IITS032'5T' VIII :
Nirayana Bha:va
Rah u4°46'40" 5032'57"
Chakram
Balance in Mercury
period Ke4°46'43"
Saturn (R)
IX80J2' 57"
1'1153'15" 0 Y - 2M - 27 Days Mer 16°58'26"
1
II 5 ~2' 57" Sun 21° 19'8"
Mars Jup. 6028'59"
XII
I 5 34'19"
11 J4058'32" X l1 o:32'57"
(}J32'5T' XI 12°32'57" Venus 27°14'6"
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 He is a big business magnet and has to his credit several crores
worth business.

Let us discuss how he had risen in hi~ material life from a low
status.

Cusp Sublord Cusp Sublord ·

I Rahu vn · Moon
n Mercury vm Mercury
m Rahu IX Jupiter
IV Moon X Mars
v Mercury XI Saturn
VI Venus XII Venus

Planets Star lord Planets Sub lord

Sun Jupiter Venus Jupiter
Moon Saturn Saturn Mercury
Mars Ketu Rahu Venus
Mercury Moon Ketu Mars
Jupiter Mercury

In this birth chart, lagria cusp sub lord isRahu, Rahu is in II. in
the star of Mars in XI, owning V & XII. ( Nq planet in V & xm and
so fully signifies XI, V & XII.

Rahu in the sub of Venus in X, placed in the star of Mars in XI.

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 So this has given him a lucky life with prowess at) Mars is in the
scene. Very bold in action and a fighter. This telJs a Poomayush over
66 years definite

It was Venus period from Nov. 40 to Nov. 50.

It was a very ordinary period and he had no much material

status. Let us discuss Venus. Venus is in X in the star of Mars in XI
& Venus owns VI & XI, but nothing to tell about his material status
why?

Venus is in the sub of Jupiter in IX (no planet in Jupiter star )

and so fully signifies XI and further. Jupiter is in the star of Sun in IX,
owning IX. So not at all enjoyed with good professional life. No
good earnings.

Next came his Sun period from Nov.60 to Nov. & 66 Sun is in
the star of Venus in X, owning VI & XI. Matter is good. But sub is
in the sub of Jupiter in IX, placed in the star of Sun in IX .

This period also did not give him rise in material life despite the
fact, star lord signification is very very good. He was just average,
with ordinary profession.

Then the period ofMoon from Nov. 66 to Nov.76 Moon owns

Vlli and is in IV, placed in the star of Mercury in IX. But is in the sub
of Saturn in II (No planet in Saturn star) and so fully signifies II and
Saturn also placed in the star ofMoon owning VIII.

During this period he had roaring business life, but in the end,
nothing worth remained and average all weak again.

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 It was Mars period from Nov.76 to Nov.83, Mars is in XI, in
the starof Rahu in II. It is a fine signification and it is onl y thro stellar
status. He had roaring business life then and all failed to leave any
substance and all become Nil why? Mars is in sub of Kethu, in VIII
in its own star. So fully signifies VITI. All failed and nothing tangible
done.

As the sub lord signifies VIII, he was always prone to accidents,

all thro the period of Mars.

Then he entered into the major period of Rahu from Nov.83

and it is for 18 Years.

From Nov.83 he is on the ascending side in his life and now he

is assessed more then 6 to 7 crores and his field of busi ness are
giving him many a fold yield.

Let me discuss Rahu.

It is in II, in the star of Mars in XI and in the sub of Venus in X,

placed in the star of Mars in XI.

So on both counts i.e. stellar wise and sub wise it is fine and
the result is high material status.

In this Rahu period, bukthi of Saturn he was involved in a very

major Accident during March 1989 and out of all involved he was
the only person left free and no scratch at all.

Saturn is in II in the star of Moon in IV owning VII. IV & VII

tell about accidents. Let us see what Sllb says. Saturn is in the sub

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of Mercury in IX, placed in the star of Venus in X, owning XI. So in
term of stellar status, he was involved .in a very big accident, sub
saved him.

It is now Kethu bukthi (Rahu period) from 6-5-94 to 24-5-

94. Let me discuss Kethu period. Kethu is in VIII in its own star
Mak.ham, and so a full significator of VIII. This is matter that tells
about accidents, major operations and so on.

Let us see what sub says. The sub lord is Mars. Mars is in XI,
in the star of Rahu in IT in Kumbham. As node Rahu stands and
represents for Saturn who is a full significator of VI & VID.

He was operated upon 23-1-95 for a major matter and

survived.

The native's brother, approached me before the operation to

know the outcome and the longevity of the person.

I categorically told him that he has no fear for life in Rahu major
period as thro sub lord Mars, not at all connected to Badhakathipati
Mercury, in any manner.

I also added that he has life upto Mercury bukthi, Jupiter major
period, as Jupiter is in the sub of Mercury in IX and Mercury is a
Bhadlakadhipathi.for Dhanus lagna and earmarked the bukthi of
Mercury since Mercury is in the sub of Moon, placed in the star of
Mercury owning VII (No planet in VII).

So it is final, that the native has no trouble for life upto Mercury
bukthi, Jupiter period i.e. upto July 2006.

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 SUB -· LORDS WHODIVERT
THE !>ASA LORDS
What every may be type of Astrological Magazines, readers
evince interest on their respective Rasi Gochara Palas. Most of the
readers do not read the articles and ou thi s I use to feel very much
sorry for them. It used to be my desire that readers should evince
interest to read the articles just to know what these articles say about.

Readers the moment they see the Bhava/Gruha Sputa. They

feel allergic still further this KP. System and its sublords are a further
confusion to them. After all what is in this K.P. system should they
not show a small interest?

Mr. V.A. Sivapadham, by this K.P. system

will boldly tell well in advance that a particular card alone can be
packed at a given moment of time.

Mr. N. Mohan Rangam, our Madras friend will tell in advance

about the date & time of return of the missing person.

Kalachari Brothers Seshadri /Vedhachalam will foretell what

child will be born on what date. Thus those who study K.P. system
will foretell of events to occur on particular dates. Should not all of
you know about his K.P. which holds many surprises. So far no one
has developed or found such a type of Astrology.

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 In this chart Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter, Saturn & Mercury 6
planets having connections to different Bhavas, in particular has strong
signification to 8th Bhava. In this chart 8th Bhava sub-lord is Sun.
Sun is in the star ofRahu, who is in the 3rd Bhava and therefore he
is strong significator of the 3rd Bhava.

Therefore planets Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter, Saturn and

Mercury when attacking the 8th house, the sub -lord Sun holding his
powers to the 3rd Bhava only, diverts the 6 planets powers totally.
3rd house tells one's easy pattern oflife. During moments, difficulties
might have been experienced and still sitting under the fan and by
contacts over phone earnings or made in hundreds daily.

The 8th Bhava indicates, in our life big disappointments, jail,

punishments, accidents. But if the sub -lord gets a strong signification
for any one house of 1,2,3,6, 10, ll a person need not at all worry
about, whatever may be the Dasa is on or to come. The sub-lord
gets the power to divert the results of the Dasa lord. And therefore a
planet of its independent powers over Bhava res ults can not effect it
independently. That particular Bhava Cusp sub lord having power to
effect results for a particular Bhava alone ha to be implemented by
the Dasa Lord.

We will now look to another example - In this chart mars lord

of 5 and 10 in 6 has Bhava signification for 4,5,6,8 and 11.
Respectively the sublords Rahu for 2 & 8 Venus for 3rd, Jupiter
4,8, 11. Sun 3rd and Venus 3rd house significations are operating.
Mars has the Bhava signification for houses 4,5,6,8, 11. But the sub
lords has signification for 2,3,4,8 & 11th house. Therefore the Bhava

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 signification to 5th and 6th houses by mars is lost. i.e. mars loses the
Bhava signification over 5th and 6th houses. And therefore mars is
permitted to offer the results of2,3,4,8 & 11 houses only.

Planetary positions and Dasa I Bhukti will be siinilar in many

birth chart. In the charts of twins it will be 100% similar. Even then in
the gap of a few seconds, it is the Bhava sub -lords that decides the
. life span events. This is what we ha ve to realise. The secret of K.P.
System lies in the Bhava sputa. To say this period is Suba Das or
Asuba Das or such & such Bhava lord Dasa, is all an eye wash. No·
planet is Malefic and no planet is Benefic.

Benefic or malefic, we should understand that if a Bhava sublord

get the Bhava signification of houses 1,2,3,6, 10,11 they will give only
good results.

Once while talking to Mithuna our Trichy friend, he raised a

doubt. That was in K.P. System 11th Bhava indicates fulfillment of
one's desires (House of ambition). But the same 11th house is taken
as Badhakasthana for Sara lagna persons. How to reconcile. This
chart in a Sara Lagna one. Some of our relatives, attend the marriage
function in our house. As our guests, it is certain one day they will
take leave of us. Some leave biding good-bye. And some leave
without informing us as a matter of courtesy. Thus with a smile I
informed him that those who leave without informing us belongs to
the category of Sara lagna persons, Mr. Mithun probably did not
understand what I told, requested me to elaborate a little further.

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 11th Bhava fulfills the desires of any particular lagna. For Sara.
1agna the fulfillment is of the in -wards belonging to the (soul) Athama.
This Athma desires to leave the physical body without informing.
Whereas in the caseoftheSthira& Ubayalagna llthBhava, fulfilment
of the desires of the physical body is had by threatening.

In this particular chart 11th Bhava sublord is .Jupiter. Note.

how it is positioned: Jupiter is in the 1Oth Therefore Bhadakasthana
looses its strength. That is lOth is Vraya- 12th to 11th. This position
gives a long life to the native. Therefore K.P. system is the Master
key to open the door and reveal the secrets of Man's life.

X8.04
Kethu 9.59 Saturn 17.26 XI XD
IX6.04 Moon 17.40 9.04 9.04
Jupiter 18.45
Sun 19.36 3.3.1941
Mer.(R) 9.33 Mon 3-27 Hrs.
Venus7.47 I 7.47
Trichy
Vlll5 .64
Karkata_Lagnam
Bhavani 2nd Pada
VII7.47
II 5.04
Venus Dasa Balance
13Y-6M-OD
Mars9.04 lii 6.04
V9.04 N8.03
VI9.04 Ral'lu 9.59

Rahu Dasa running from 3.09.1977.

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 Star Lord Sub lord
Rahu Sun Venus
Mercury Rahu Rahu
Venus Rahu Rahu
Sun Rahu Mars
Kethu Saturn Venus
Mars Venus Moon
Moon Venus Mars
Saturn Venus Mars
Jupiter Venus Rahu

Cusp Sub lord

I Kethu
II Mars
ill Mercury
IV Rahu
v Venus
VI Jupiter
VII Venus
.vm Sun
IX Mercury
X Jupiter
XI Venus
XII Jupiter

Pranams to Guruji KSK..

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