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This document discusses a debate on whether national examinations should be abolished in Indonesia. The first speaker argues that national examinations should be abolished because they negatively impact student health and psychology. They cause stress for students worried about passing exams, and there is evidence that some students have gotten sick or died due to the pressure. The first opposition speaker disagrees, saying that national examinations are not the sole determinant of graduation and help develop important skills. Scores on national exams also motivate students to work harder and help them access scholarships and higher education. The second affirmative speaker then refutes the opposition's arguments. They say score competitions on national exams incentivize cheating. The exams also decrease student confidence and morale. National
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Debate 2

This document discusses a debate on whether national examinations should be abolished in Indonesia. The first speaker argues that national examinations should be abolished because they negatively impact student health and psychology. They cause stress for students worried about passing exams, and there is evidence that some students have gotten sick or died due to the pressure. The first opposition speaker disagrees, saying that national examinations are not the sole determinant of graduation and help develop important skills. Scores on national exams also motivate students to work harder and help them access scholarships and higher education. The second affirmative speaker then refutes the opposition's arguments. They say score competitions on national exams incentivize cheating. The exams also decrease student confidence and morale. National
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Motion : This House believes that National Examination should be abolished

1st Speaker Government/ Affirmative


Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for the opportunity.
Next, I would like to give our motion today. Our motion today is “This House Believe That
National Examination Should be Abolished” . The definition of Motion is:
National examination: a standard evaluation system of primary and secondary education in a
country.
Abolished: to get away, to erase element/particle from system.
This whole definition is : We on affirmative team, strongly support that the national examination
to get away or to be erased from education system in Indonesia for goodness all elements.
From the motions, we will give our theme line: That we as the affirmative team absolutely agree
that the national examination should be or be erased from education system.
Then our parameter today is that we just talk about the national examination is my country,
Indonesia.
Well continue to our team split: I’m Bety Anitasari as the first speaker I will deliver my
argument from impacts for students/students parent perspektive. And Abdi Rahim Yudani as a
second speaker, who will deliver arguments from negative impacts for schools and education
levels perspective. And last Indah Puspita Sari as a third speaker who will deliver more proof
and brief summary of our arguments.
Next ladies and gentlemen, I would like to give my argument from individual perspective,
we have 2 points:
First point is National Examination give negative impacts for student healthy, because national
examination be a standard graduation from the schools, students be-harder to study before ready
to face UN. So far, national examination become a dilemma for student who will past a exam.
On one hard, it can make student study hard before they are face to face with the exam, but on
the disturb then healthy many student had sick before they are face to exam.
Monday, 16 April 2012, Hendry Kusria a student in SMK BNKP Sirambu Nias. Dead while be
was doing the national examination. Secretariat of minister of education in north Sumatra
province say that he was dead because have a complication disclosed are bronchitis, lair and
impertinence for from before national examination beheld. He was supported from his parents to
do the national examination.
From the evidence it clearly that national examination they think they can pass or not and
whether national examinations report release and they are not able to pass, they will get stress
and do many was, wrong or right way. For example, my friends she got stress before she face the
national examination, and distress her memorize because she forget she got wont to have
breakfast in the morning because she too much think about preparation of national examination.
We can see, national examination give negative impacts in individual perspective to students
healthy, psychology and their parents, too so national examination should be abolished we his to
propose.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen, that enough for my arguments. It will be continued by the
second speaker later. J

1stSpeaker Opposition/Negative
Okay, ladies and gentleman. We are from the the opposition team, that against this motion. We
are strongly disagree that UN should be abolished. Before we deliver our points of arguments I
want to introduce our team-line and team-split.
Our team line is we just strongly oppose that UN should be abolished in my country Indonesia.
And our team split I’m NURUL HUDA & YENNY SARIANTI we are the 1st speakers that and
refuse the affirmative side. And deliver argument in individual perspective and I MADE GILER
PERMADI as and speaker who will refuse the points affirmative and deliver argument from
economic, social, and education respective and last JELLIN ELISABETH SIRINGO RINGO as
the third speaker that rebuttals the all points of affirmative side and brief summary our argument
reply speech by me.
Next ladies and gentleman first, I will refuse the affirmative side and then YENNY SARIANTI
will give our points. We will show the good split, because we are the best soulmate?
1. the first points was health. They said that UN give negative impacts for students healthy.
Because UN be a standard graduation from the school we halve to responses, it clearly that is not
on by UN be standard graduation from the school. But from 2010 in Indonesia. The minister of
education firm up the roles that graduation will determine from 60% result of UN 40% result of
UAS. And if we UN think that UN is only one to determine the graduation, we sure feel stress
but factually is not true. UN is not only one to determine graduation UAS be an important scone
too.
2. their second point was psychology they said that national examination can disturb the students
psychology. We have to responses, first 1 the purpose of an exam in school, UAS or UN is to
practice our mental to pace the nations exam this is very useful to continue higher education bad
get work doatest. Basically, UN and us are same, its differences are UN make from capital by
kemendigbud and UAS from school. Government try to show the fair muse for all students in
Indonesia so they firm up UN disturb students psychology ? it’s just par-little part of all students
in Indonesia it cannot be reason to abolish UN. UN can give positive impact for all element for
the affirmative argument let’s us see best argument of student, teacher, parents and government
Thank you nurul huda
Next ladies and gentlemen i will deliver our points in individual i perspective. We have there
points.
On the first point, UN can be score competition among the students. The score competition
which puts the students to do their but, with the time, ways absolutely, study harder and take a
courses before fact the national examination and having a study guidance t the school diligently.
For example in SMAN 1 SimpangEmpat from November all students have a study guidance at
the school, to prepare to fact UN 6 subjects UN are math, Indonesia, English, biology, physic,
and chemistry that they puts prepare they do many various question with their teacher trough
various method. We can see, it clearly that UN can when their ability, intelligence, and
competence trough a score competition of UN with high motivation and strong belief so, it can
fix the character of students especially in study harder to reach their dreams. UN also helps in
deceiving one’s own personally and confidence. On the second point, UN to knowing the
student’s competence, if we know our ability and competence we will to continue higher
education or get a work easily (university) and the third point, UN helps to get sholat ship which
will bring to have a good job i’iy senior in junior hing school, M. Aditya Rulianyah get a sholar
ship to continue senior hing school in Bandung because has got the best score UN in SMP. And
now he is in tutelary to continue higher education that in university because he get best score in
UN for senior its again from evidence.
See advantages UN for students are very WOW and they can be a motivation for me and for you
as a student, without exams student would be more and more stupid, lazier and less motivated to
learn. Okay ladies and gentlemen, i’ll keep my stance and back to propose.
Thank You J

2ndSpeaker Affirmative
2nd AFF ladies and gentlemen. I’m as the second speaker affirmative. At the first i want to
refuse the opposition side i have 3 points.
First you said that UN can be a score competition of UN he have responses. Do you think a
score competition of UN is good ?
No, a score competition is not good especially for our country Indonesia in fact, you know and
you can see that many student make cheats and buy the answer key before they face the national
exams they do that because they want to get best score of a score competition UN like you have
said.
Like you have said
Second you said that it can fix the character personality and confidence students. We have to
response it really wrong. Basically UAN is a test that multiple choice but the roles of UN are
very make difficult for students and it can their confidence be down and their spirit be down too
best they very afraid, nervous make cheats and buy the answer keys, they are not good habit but
dangerous habit, it is a simply patisserie of dis hone. It is absolute can landmine and decrease the
moral students as the young generation.
Third, you said that UN can be used to knowing the students competence. We are to responses
charging students with UN as graduation stipulation is not a best wary to improve student's
competence. UN i have 6 subjects how the students does not have potently between 6 subject? It
is not fair for some students that have potability in other subject. Such as history, Islamic and
other ladies.
I have refused the opp side and then i will deliver augments in economic, social, education,
perspective. I have 3 points on the first point. In economic perspective. From the first
implementation of UN until last year, UN make big expenditure for students parents school and
government especially government to face UN and get best score students need many things and
they absolutely need a lot of money such as take a courses, buy tools, buy some books and even
the key answer too. They are not cheap especially key answer, certain people sell the answer lets
before or while face the UN with expensive cost , that is about million, we know that many
student’s parents in Indonesia have difficultly of condition of economy.
On the second point, in social perceptive. Preparatory UN need many time to study, practice and
prepare i they can make the student’s can not play they will always in house because they are
very afraid if they can pass UN or not it can make the students does not sleep and having break
fast lunch and dinner regular and if they have got bad result it will affect their future from the fist
implementation of UN until last year, we haven’t seen the result UN used require the expressive
cost buy the result is only doubt and uncertainty as NE can see, last year the education and cal
tuns minister, say government. Spent expensive cost that is about billion rupiahs and factually
the billion rupiahs yield many cause of illegal way that be done by some school. In 2008 while
the second day of UN there is a practice of dishonest from 16 teachers SMAN Lubuk Pakam 2
From evidence it clearly that expenses cost that was spent by government doesn't have the
positive result for students beg to propose so i’m strongly agree with this motion beg to purpose.
J
2ndSpeaker Opposition
Hello ladies and gentleman . I’m the 2 Nd speaker opposition will oppose the affirmative side.
National examination have positive impacts for all elements . so, moreover many country in a
world use national examination a standard graduation in their education development. So, why
national examination should be abolished? Is there better way if without national examination ?i
believe there is no, until a better form of demonstrating know ledge comes along , UN must be
still best place at the first , I want to refuse the AFF side, you said that UN
Make big expenditure for students parents like take a courses , buy books and key answer we
have to responses.That is not true . first students should not to take a courses because school
always help the study guidance after in every years.second, students is not advisable to by book,
education minister time give many helping for all schools in Indonesia, especially books . so,
students enough study and borrow some books from library in their school.and key answer . it is
not necessary because it is a Farley in process of national examination, it needs an extra
socialization so, students but it is not reason to abolish UN from curriculum of education an
Indonesia because there is still many students ta=hat do a true way to prepare the national
examination
On the second point , you said that UN doesn’t have positive result as a burgeon country ,
Indonesia still need time to adapt with national examination until Indonesia can make the best
method of help of national examination
With the result , kemendigbud can mapping the education levels and knowing condition of
education development
Okay, I have refused the AFF side, now I will deliver my argument education development in
Indonesia . national examination as a form that is used by government to slow a fairness to all
student in Indonesia
National examination made by professional person in kemendigbud far before the national
examination be help, kemendigbud give some lattice of national examination
10 SMA that get the highest scores in Indonesia , according the evidence, government can
helping and make the comparison of education development in Indonesia
Secondly, must national examination government van divide education budget for every school
in Indonesia fairly we can see, last year SMAN that get the highest scores get many advantages 8
of to 10 from government . Thank you J

3rd Speaker Affirmative


Hello ladies and gentlemen
I’m Indah as the third speaker affirmative.
I have 7 points that I’ve found to rebut the opposition team.
– First, you said that national examination can be a score competition among the
students.
Do you think it’s good ? No for the students in Indonesia because it’s just a little part of million
of students in Indonesia use the honest manner to pass the exams.

– Second, you said that national examination to knowing the student’s competence.
Many ways and procedure to knowing the student’s competence such as practice , debate,
discuss and many other.a potential of student not only determine trough the multiple choice test
like national examination. But in education, we need to know the process, procedure and their
practical in day life. National examination just give the doubt result so how can I know our
potential with the doubt result ?
– Third, you said that trough national examination government can knowing the
education development in Indonesia.
I have explained that an education need a process, just not a result .it is just make government
easily. But many elements that disagree with the result’s of national examination because the
know the real condition of national examination’s held.
– Forth, you said that national examination is an effective system for education in
Indonesia. Moreover many other countries that use the national examination as the graduation
standard.
In basically, the national examination is good for education in their country. But it’s not an
effective for education system in Indonesia. Before use the national examination, The
government should fix the educational units’ quality in Indonesia such as the teacher quality,
Kemendigbud’s work and the other education’s system.
– And fifth, you said that if a person pass the national examinations and get a good
scores, he/ she will get the scholarship. It is not fair for the other clever students that have good
potential too. It do not shows they that have got the good result use the honest manner. As we
know, facts in Indonesia shows many dishonest practices that for the national examination’s held
such as make cheats, use the electronic tool or use the key answer. Moreover, many teachers do
the dishonest practice too, to help their students while national examination comes along. And
more, how the students that have got the bad result ? it will cause the problem m in their future.
Moreover, if they didn’t pass the exam, it can disturb their psychology.
60% : 40% it don’t helps because 60% is more that 40%.
– Sixth, you said that trough National examination, government can shows the
fairness for all students In Indonesia. That is not fairness. Let’s we compare the education in
border and underprivileged areas with big cities in Indonesia.in border and underprivileged areas,
the education facilities and learning resources are limited while the big cities have very complete
education facilities and broad success to get the good learning.
– And last, you said that without exams students would be more and more stupid,
lazier and less motivated to learn. It’s really and really wrong because national examination that
cause the students would be more and more stupid, more and more lazy, more and more
dishonest and absolutely decrease the student’s quality in Indonesia. To know the student’s
ability, government should measure the process, just not a result.

In fact, what did we expect from national examination yield ?


National examination is compatible for the other country, but it is not compatible for education’s
system in Indonesia. We can graduate from school or not just by passing an exam, which is held
in 3-6 days and with standard scores from education ministry.
How about learning process for 3 years that have been done by students ? does it mean nothing ?
and do you agree with that ? No , absolutely No because because national examination will broke
the process which during this followed by students. A absolutely decrease the student’s
character.
National examination makes the negative impacts are more thin Indonesia.an the positive
impacts for all elements and also for education’s development in Indonesia.
So, we are the affirmative team strongly agree with this motion that National Examination
should be abolished.

Thank you J

3rdSpeaker Opposition

Jellyn as the third speaker opposition


Hello ladies and gentlemen
Now I’m jellyn Slingo-lingo as the third speaker will summarize our best argument for our
disagreeing to the motion.
At the firs, I will refuse the opposition side. I have some points.
On the first point, give the negative impacts for student’s health ? it’s wrong. It is the little part
from all facts. There is still many students that feel advantages of national examination.
On the second point, they said that national examination can disturb the student’s psychology.
But you don’t see some students that have the true way to face the national examination. It’s not
a reason to abolish National Examination. Basically, national examination is same with the other
exams ? the other exam that in form essay but national examination no! it is made in form
multiple choice. Or do you have the other method if without national examination ?
Then I will mention some advantages of national examination for all elements according
arguments that have been delivered by the 1stOpp and 2ndOpp.
First, For students :
knowing their ability and performance
national examination may encourage people to work and learn
create the competition score which push the students to their best
helps in developing one’s own personality and confidence
if a person pass the exam and got the good result, it helps to get scholarship which will bring to
have a good job.
Second, for schools :
Trough national examination the teachers can get the feedback of the student.
School can decide the best students until stupid students easily
If the schools have the best students they will get the appreciation from government or usually
we call Kemendigbud
Third, For Government :
Mapping the quality of programmer and or educational units
The basic of selection in to the next educational level
Give the appreciation for best school and best students easily

So, should we abolish the national examination ?


No , absolutely no. because without exams student would be more and more stupid, lazier and
less motivated to learn. With that argument that have delivered, we are from opposition team
strongly disagree with that motion. National examination should never be abolished.
Thank you J

Reply speech Opposition


Thanks you ladies and gentleman
Now I want to deliver our reply speech. Once again I say that, we are strongly disagree with the
motion that the UN should be abolished at the first, I want to deliver a summary of our point of
view.
1.UN give many advantages for all elements, students, school and government too.
2.UN is an effective system that compatible for condition of education in Indonesia
3. UN is a fairness that government has been showed for students

And just I will explain why the national exam should not be abolished
1. UN will increase students human resources quality
2.UN can be an indicator of students
3. and with UN gone, in this case ministry of education and culture will be able to know what
aspect of study materials that need to be improved
4. as the burgeon country, Indonesian, UN is compatible for education system in Indonesia
According our point of view. We still strongly disagree if the UN should be abolished. There is
not other best solution for increase the education's quality
Thanks you J
Reply Speech Affirmative
Reply speech Affirmative
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen
Now I would like deliver our reply speech’s affirmative,.
Before I deliver it, I will to convince you that UN is not an effective way for education’s
development in Indonesia.
First,
1. For students, UN not give the positive impacts fairly.
2. you said that UN is an effective system, but in fact, UN is not an effective system for
education in Indonesia.
3. you also said that UN can increase the students human resources quality, but with a doubt
result, UN can decrease the students human resources quality, because trough UN many students
do the dishonest praises such as buy the key answer.
So, what did we expend from national examination yield ? doubt result ? decreasing the students
character ?
No, absolutely no.
Before use the UN as a graduation standard national examination test to assess students learning
in primary high school until high school level, kemendigbud and ministry of edv. And culture
will search the best systems to fix the educational units in Indonesia.
One more we are from the aff team absolutely agree with this motion that UN should be
abolished Thank you ladies and gentlemen

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