Special Coverage (For Some Reason) of the GOP’s Fourth 2024 ‘Presidential Primary Debate’: ‘BradCast’ 12/7/2023

Guests: Heather Digby Parton of Salon, 'Driftglass' of 'ProLeft Podcast'...

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It was debate number four for all of the eligible GOP 2024 primary candidates who decided to show up. And, for reasons best left to one of our guests to explain on today’s BradCast, we once again offer Special Coverage of yet another LOL bat-crap insane evening! [Audio link to full show follows this summary.]

This one was broadcast from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. It was sponsored by new media outlet NewsNation and moderated (for the first time?) by three women. The GOP’s Race for Second Place on Wednesday night featured just four candidate who qualified: former UN Ambassador and former SC Gov. Nikki Haley; FL Gov. Ron DeSantis; former NJ Gov. Chris Christie and scammy business dude and unspeakably annoying conspiracy theory bro Vivek Ramaswamy. Presumed front-runner Donald Trump didn’t bother to show up again. Though, after winning the three previous debates by not being there, he may have actually lost a few points this time around, for reasons discussed on today’s program.

We’re joined once again today by our tireless 2024 post-debate panelists and long-time OG bloggers HEATHER DIGBY PARTON of Salon and Hullabaloo and ‘DRIFTGLASS’ of the weekly Professional Left Podcast and its companion show, No Fair Remembering Stuff.

It was a lively, if insane affair, as expected from today’s broken Republican Party, with the candidates viciously attacking each other throughout the night as “obnoxious blowhard”, “corrupt”, “toxic”, “fascist” and “liar”. But who are we to disagree with the GOP’s own carefully curated collection of 2024 candidates for President of the United States?

Aside from the smaller group of participants, the biggest change was that Christie decided to finally weigh in both as the adult in the room with actual old-school Republican “conservative” values, and to finally take on Trump head on as he’d long promised. As we discuss, the room did not boo him as vigorously this time out, and may (may!) have actually listened to a word or two he had to say about Trump. While Christie scored a number of direct hits on the four-time criminally indicted former President, his best moments — other than beating the hell out of DeSantis and Ramaswamy — came in calling out Trump as “unfit for office”, before noting in closing that Trump is likely to be disqualified from even voting for himself next year.

“I want you all to kinda picture in your mind its Election Day. You all will be heading to the polls to vote, and that’s something that Donald Trump will not be able to do. Because he will be convicted of felonies before then and his right to vote will be taken away,” explained Christie, followed by a bit of half-hearted booing from the assembled crowd at the University of Alabama. “You can boo about it all you like and continue to deny reality,” he continued. “But if we deny reality as a party, we’re gonna have four more years of Joe Biden.” He went on to add for his fellow candidates: “If you’re too timid to take on Trump, believe me, others will see that timidity: Xi, Putin and the Ayatollah, the border-crossers on the southern border and the criminals on our streets.”

The full frontal — and accurate — attack may or may not work. But it was the message that the crowd eventually seemed to be listening to and that Christie had long promised to deliver, but hadn’t until last night. It was also the argument that every other major candidate in the party has, so far, been too “timid” to make. In fact, the lawless, autocratic threat posed by Donald Trump to his own party, our nation, and this world is really the only issue that matters in 2024.

We discuss all of that and much more today, including…

  • Why we’re devoting an hour to this madness at all.
  • The reasons for the lack of a single question about abortion.
  • Why the sponsors of this debate thought it appropriate to feature two video questions for the candidates from the far-right Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton, identified as one of Trump’s many unindicted co-conspirators in his Georgia election theft indictment and likely in his federal indictment for same.
  • Why the party that used to pretend to oppose Big Government clearly doesn’t anymore (and never actually did.)
  • How Haley and DeSantis claim to support “freedom”, while each opposing freedom of speech on the Internet (and elsewhere.)
  • Who would actually be the best GOP candidate to defeat Joe Biden and who would actually be the easiest for Joe Biden to defeat.

Please enjoy our…for some reason…BradCast Special Coverage!…

The BradCast with Brad Friedman 12/7/2023
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