Thom Hartmann Makes the Case for Mass Murder Charges Against Trump: ‘BradCast’ 11/8/2021

Guest: Author, radio host Thom Hartmann; Also: Callers ring in on Thom's argument and new calls for AG Merrick Garland's resignation...

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On today’s BradCast: It shouldn’t take a couple of talk radio guys to figure this out. But that, apparently, is where we are when it comes to demands for legal accountability in this country…at least in regard to the case of mass murder by Donald Trump. [Audio link to full show is posted below this summary.]

On last Friday’s BradCast we spoke with Free Speech for People (FSFP) co-founder and president John Bonifaz, a Constitutional law and accountability expert, about his nonpartisan nonprofit’s new campaign calling on Attorney General Merrick Garland to resign. The group is making their demand, despite respect for Garland’s years of service as a prosecutor and federal judge, due to his failure to bring any accountability for anybody in the Trump Administration after eight months as President Biden’s AG. That, despite a mountain of clear and well documented crimes carried out by the former President himself both before and during his term in office.

While Bonifaz detailed a litany of apparent crimes by Trump and his cronies for which no one has been held criminally accountable, there was one major crime that FSFP didn’t raise, but that I mentioned quite a bit last year in the closing months of the Trump Administration during the worst of the pandemic. Namely, the need to hold Trump criminally accountable for the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths in the U.S. from COVID that occurred during his Administration’s attempt to pretend the pandemic away in hopes that it would somehow help him win a second term of office.

Last week, our friend, author and longtime progressive talk radio host THOM HARTMANN wrote a piece for his Hartmann Report newsletter, attempting to begin building a case against Trump for what he described as “negligent homicide at best and intentional murder at worst.”

Hartmann joins us on the program today to explain his persuasive and well-documented argument that Trump and his Administration are, in fact, guilty of mass murder. He breaks down how Team Trump had taken the pandemic seriously in its first four months or so, until one day in April when an article in the New York Times reported that, other than the elderly, it was, in fact, Black and Hispanic Americans who were dying at the highest rate from the disease, and largely in “blue states” at the time. As if on a dime, as Hartmann details, the Administration seems to have made the calculation that if minorities were dying in “blue” states, it was time to move on from the COVID pandemic and demand the country re-open for business again…just months before the 2020 election. That about face happened in lockstep with rightwing outlets like Fox “News”, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Koch Network’s Freedomworks, etc., all seemingly within days if not hours of each other.

We also discuss the seemingly astonishing point that, really, none of the great legal minds in this nation seem to have yet made a similar public case for this. Is there a reason for that? Has Hartmann, who concedes he is not an attorney, got something wrong in his argument? If so, nobody has explained as much since he first published his case last week.

“Why am I making this case instead of some former attorney general?,” Hartmann asks today. “To the best of my knowledge, nobody has punched a hole in it. Nobody has contradicted it. It’s just a matter of a lack of political will. There are so many Democrats right now who are so timid. They don’t want to piss off the Proud Boys. They don’t want to piss off the GOP. Forget about that! Do what’s right. This guy killed a bunch of people and he did it for political purposes, and he should be held accountable.”

But, if an case for mass murder was to be filed against Trump, who would be the one to do it? It’s unclear whether there are federal laws for murder that would suffice and, in any event, we’ve learned Garland — who Hartmann describes as “a longstanding member of the Republican Party” — is unlikely to do so. How about prosecutors at the state level, all of which have lost countless thousands of residents due to Trump’s purposeful negligence? How about another Select Committee in Congress? How about the International Court of Justice?

Hartmann suggests keeping an eye on what is happening Brazil, where a case is apparently being built in the Senate against its President, Jair Bolsonaro, for the exact same thing in the only other large nation that seems to rival the U.S. for COVID deaths under leaders who tried — and failed — to pretend it all away.

We also briefly discuss the newest book in Thom’s “Hidden History” series, The Hidden History of American Healthcare: Why Sickness Bankrupts You and Makes Others Insanely Rich — where history appears to offer some haunting echoes for Trump’s reasons for failing to deal with COVID once he decided that only minorities, the poor (and folks who tend to vote Democratic) were most adversely affected by it.

Finally — after a bit of breaking news on six new subpoenas for top Trump advisors, issued today by the U.S. House Select Committee examining the January 6th insurrection — we open up the phones to some excellent callers on Hartmann’s case against Trump, the calls for Garland to resign, and a bit more madness (in the form of attempted disinformation from one caller regarding DoJ’s position on family separation at the border under Trump and on the rising menace of violent threats against school officials responding to COVID. It didn’t go particularly well for that caller. )

It was a “fun” show. I hope you’ll tune in!…

The BradCast with Brad Friedman 11/8/2021
Thom Hartmann Makes the Case for Mass Murder Charges Against Trump: ‘BradCast’ 11/8/2021  |  Guest: Author, radio host Thom Hartmann; Also: Callers ring in on Thom's argument and new calls for AG Merrick Garland's resignation...   · · · · ·   Thom Hartmann Makes the Case for Mass Murder Charges Against Trump: ‘BradCast’ 11/8/2021  |  Guest: Author, radio host Thom Hartmann; Also: Callers ring in on Thom's argument and new calls for AG Merrick Garland's resignation...
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    Mark Robinowitz said on 11/8/2021 @ 11:50pm PT: [Permalink]

    Most presidents in our lifetime deserved trials for mass murder. That seems to be a part of the job.

    Brazil isn’t the only large nation that rivals US deaths. If one considers “excess deaths” (uncounted) it is likely India is several times higher than US. Officially we have about 3/4 million, actually probably a million, but India may have 3 to 4 million. Like with Chernobyl and Bhopal, the true toll is politically toxic and kept quiet from Florida to Moscow to New Delhi. Perhaps some of the countries that took it seriously have accurate figures. “The Economist” (not a publication that I like politically) has done excellent work about covid “excess deaths.”

    I hope Mr. Hartmann can apologize some day for co-authoring TWO books claiming the Mafia killed President Kennedy without any help from CIA. This is a classic “limited hang out,” ie. clever disinformation, and not even remotely tenable at this late date. The Mafia played a role, but they did not control the protection of the President nor the coverup afterwards. They did not have the ability to tamper with the autopsy, create the Warren Dulles Commission nor intimidate the political system and media to stay quiet.

    two reviews, from the scriptwriter of Oliver Stone’s new documentary JFK Revisited:

    https://www.kennedysandking.com...mate-sacrifice

    Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:15
    Lamar Waldron, Ultimate Sacrifice
    Written by James DiEugenio

    https://www.kennedysandking.com...acy-of-secrecy

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