[NOW UPDATED: Patty strikes back! Swings and misses again.]
Oh, noes! Rightwing blogger “Patterico”, one of the only ones silly enough to throw in with GOP propagandist Andrew Breitbart to defend his employee, accused federal felon James O’Keefe, sez I’m “Liberal”! And a “stooge”!
Ouch! Thems good bloggery, Patty! U shure skooled me! ‘Cept for the part where you hit publish before bothering to check your facts ‘n’ stuff…
Patty had his panties in a crunchy wad last night because, as he foolishly seems to be charging, the New York Times never said O’Keefe “dressed” as a pimp inside those ACORN offices in his infamous, highly-edited hit videos — only that he “posed” as one.
“Did you know that you can ‘pose’ as a pimp without dressing like one?,” Patty uses as the opening line for his pre-discredited article. Therefore, no correction is necessary for the “paper of record’s” repeated misreporting, or even for their Senior Editor of Standards, Greg Brock, who not only stood behind their reportage that O’Keefe was dressed as a pimp in those offices, but, as detailed in the emails we published in full at the above link, claimed he knew it to be a fact, based not only on the say-so of O’Keefe and Fox “News”, but also on the evidence seen in a mysterious, unreleased video as well as interviews with ACORN employees.
Unfortunately, Brock failed to produce the video he claims exists, or even the interviews with ACORN employees he claims exists, even though ACORN themselves has now told The BRAD BLOG they believe no such interviews actually exist and have requested a meeting with the Times Public Editor Clark Hoyt to discuss the entire shameful turn of events as documented by those sorry emails.
But the “posed” versus “dressed” silliness gets still worse for Patterico who tries, in his ill-considered zeal to stand by the accused federal felon O’Keefe and fellow con-artist Breitbart, to attack not just me, but also Marcy Wheeler at emptywheel and Eric Boehlert at Media Matters, both of whom previously covered my reports on this disturbing matter.
Perhaps Patty thought he was dealing with Fox “News” “Democrats” or something? Because both Wheeler and Boehlert — my “oafish sidekicks” and “pathetic hacks”, as he describes them — eviscerate po’ po’ Patty in reply today, essentially destroying every silly case Patty was self-righteously and ham-fistedly trying to make.
For example, Wheeler points out how Patterico actually helps make the case that the Times owes readers a correction, and Boehlert points out that not only did the Times clearly “suggest”, inaccurately, that O’Keefe dressed as a pimp in those offices (as Patty critiques me for reporting) but they actually reported as much quite directly.
I’ll point you over to both Wheeler’s and Boehlert’s responses to the silly boy, so they can reap the full rewards for shaming him, rather than post the quotes from the Times, etc. here. You’ll enjoy both responses, featuring stuff like this from Boehlert:
They visited Acorn offices in Baltimore, Washington, Brooklyn and San Bernardino, Calif. … Mr. O’Keefe, 25, a filmmaker and conservative activist, was dressed so outlandishly that he might have been playing in a risque high school play.
That, of course, in contrast to what we’ve now reported over and over and over, and as former MA Attorney General Scott Harshbarger wrote in his December 7th report [PDF] — which was ignored by the New York Times in misreports on their pages at least eight times since it’s release:
That is just one point, though a major one, in the knowing deceipt behind the entire O’Keefe/Breitbart ACORN video scam which underscores their utter disdain for the truth, for the basic tenets of real journalism, and for their lack of credibility in their dishonest, phonied-up assault on ACORN. As importantly, it raises serious questions about the credibility of their claims concerning the recent federal felony arrest of Breitbart’s employee, James “TeaBugger” O’Keefe, along with three other Republican activists (one of them the son of the acting US Attorney) for allegingly trying to “maliciously interfere” with the phone system of Louisiana’s Democratic U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu.
Credibility lost. Just like Patty’s. But at least he isn’t facing the possibility of ten years in jail, so the reasons for his foolishness are far less clear.
Also, since Patty is apparently too much of a propagandist, like his heroes Breitbart and O’Keefe, to actual do the right thing, such as issue a correction, retraction and/or or apology, or even link to Wheeler and Boehlert’s eviscerating rebuttals, you’ll have to let his exceptionally angry readers know about them yourselves, I guess.
Silly Patterico. Not only is he seemingly incapable of merely challenging someone’s reporting by saying he believes it to be incorrect and publishing his arguments in support, he must also hurl all sorts of names and whiffed attempts at insults to backfire along with it. Presumably doing so makes his ill-conceived, ill-researched arguments stronger or something? It’s all the more embarrassing, of course, because, setting aside his silly (and inaccurate) name calling, the arguments used to challenge my reporting are not just obtuse and probably disingenuous, they also happen to be flat out wrong.
Hopefully he’ll clear all that up for his readers shortly, by issuing the appropriate apologies, retractions and/or corrections. Right after hell freezes over.
UPDATE 2/12/10: Crash and burn. Rather than simply do the right thing by retracting and apologizing, Patty has instead decided to double down, twice, in hopes of burying his monumental failure. If there was any evidence that he had any shame, I’d call it shameful, but instead, it’s just shameless. So, in his response to having made a complete jackass of himself, he has now posted two articles trying to extricate himself in hopes of justifying his massive fail.
In his first attempt, rather than admit his errors, he’s essentially chose to suggest that Wheeler, Boehlert and I support child prostitution. No, really, that’s about all he’s got left.
In his second, even more convoluted attempt at trying to un-embarrass himself, he sorta kinda almost reveals the glimmer of manhood to admit he got his story completely wrong, but it doesn’t really matter because Wheeler, Boehlert and Friedman love child prostitution — or whatever ridiculous claim this Deputy D.A. (no, seriously, that’s actually what he is!) is on about. However, he is seemingly unable to even post that story on his front page. To find it, you have to notice a link to it over in his “Recents Comments” thing in the sidebar. So if you’d like to read it, and enjoy a chuckle, you’d have to know where it is. Which is right here.
All of that in lieu of simply posting an update, retraction, correction and apology on the original story. But that would take a grown up and/or a responsible blogger.
If he was a serious person, with serious critiques of our reporting, I’d be happy to respond to each and every one of then, of course (though, really, he wouldn’t come out looking any better if I did, so he should thank me at this point). As I told him via Twitter, I’m also happy (unlike him, apparently) to transparently correct any errors in my reporting. Unfortunately, he hasn’t demonstrated any, even though he (did I mention he’s a Deputy D.A.?!) likes to use the word “lie” and “proof” a lot. It seems this Deputy D.A. — who seemed like a decent person when I had him, in studio, as my guest on a radio show in ’08 — is unfamiliar with the actual definition of either of those words, disturbingly enough.
In the meantime, while Patty enjoys pretending that he’s a crusader against prostitution and/or government waste, and while he’s posted almost a hundred stories on the menace to America that is ACORN (who has never been accused of running a prostitution ring, much less a child prostitution ring, but has received millions of dollars from the federal government over the last several decades to help poor people buy a house and vote), for some reason, Patty hasn’t seen fit to run a single story on the actual allegations — two different ones, from two different sets of employees, filed in two different federal courts — of actual prostitution and child prostitution rings run by and/or operated by Blackwater with tax-payer money, even though the company continues to receive billions of dollars from the federal government since 2001 alone.
Kinda makes Patty’s protestations and savior complex ring a li’l thin, doncha think?
And it’s made all the more absurd when he tries to suggest my priorities are somehow out of whack, because (I guess) I’ve actually called out the NYTimes, with hard evidence, for flagrant and repeated misreporting on the O’Keefe/ACORN story; deferring to Fox “News'” Steve Doocy and an accused Felon’s claims about himself as evidence for why they stand by it; and then appearing to lie about it all when called on all of the above.
Can you imagine the stroke that wingnuts like Patterico, Breitbart and O’Keefe would have if a Sr. Editor for Standards at the NYTimes backed up their obvious and repeated misreporting by claiming “MSNBC and Nancy Pelosi said so on live TV. We believe her”, as the NYTimes’ Greg Brock did in those emails we posted exclusively earlier this week?!
But this repeated error by the “Liberal” NYTimes works in their favor, so Patterico is foolish enough to defend their coverage (which even Breitbart isn’t dumb enough to do), getting his facts completely wrong in the bargain, defending an accused felon who lied to sell his story, and then hiding behind a phony quest to save the world from a non-existent child prostitution ring and government waste when a great deal of evidence exists that both are actually going on under his nose, and neither he nor Breitbart have said a word about it.
All of which makes Patty’s quote from his not-hidden reply to me, Boehlert and Wheeler, all the more amusing:
Keep swinging, Patty. You’ll hit the ball one of these days.
UPDATE 2/17/10: “Breitbart Lied About ACORN ‘Pimp’ Videos When Selling Story in His Own Washington Times Column”. Full details…
UPDATE 2/19/10: Giles Admits O’Keefe, Breitbart ACORN ‘Pimp’ Story was a Lie: ‘It Was B-Roll, Purely B-Roll’. Woman who posed as prostitute confirms repeated misreporting by NYTimes, many others. Full details…
UPDATE 2/21/10: “In CPAC Meltdown, Breitbart Forced to ‘Apologize’ for ‘Apparently’ Lying About ACORN ‘Pimp’ Story”. Full details…
UPDATE 2/23/10: “Exclusive: NYTimes Public Editor Declines to Recommend Retraction for Multiple Erroneous Reports on False ACORN ‘Pimp’ Story” Full story, Hoyt’s emails…
UPDATE 2/24/10: Hoyt responds to our on his emails and accuses The BRAD BLOG of having a “political agenda” on par with O’Keefe and Breitbart. Also, blogosphere issues blistering response, petition, call for Hoyt to step down. Full details, Hoyt’s email response, right here…
Okay, this is good. This is helpful. I’m finally beginning to understand some if the bothersome discrepancies in this story.
O’Keefe was dressed in slacks and a button down shirt when he was in the Acorn office because he was POSING as a pimp. Yes, I get it. He was obviously playing a plainclothes or undercover pimp. Makes perfect sense. So of course he’d then dress in slacks and a button down shirt. Yes, yes.
And the reason he videotaped himself OUTSIDE the Acorn offices in the outlandish Pimpernelia is as a visual aid. This is helpful because it provides a stimulating, clear, visual allowing us to see how he was feeling and/or thinking of himself while he was inside actually conversing with duplicitous Acornesians in his undercover get up.
It’s all coming together.
As for the name calling, Brad, I think we all recognize that for many people this is the primary MO in argument. I just slogged through 300 pages of Glenn Beck’s latest(call me crazy, trying to figure out how to connect with neocon relatives). It’s a namecalling fest from start to finish.
What I hope we’ll do, what I intend to do, is point out this technique whenever I/we can. Naming things can be a powerful remedy. I’m imagining that it might help bring accepted, though dishonest, conversational techniques out into the light, expose the techniques for the evasions they are, and begin to diffuse them of their power.
Wouldn’t it be refreshing if everytime Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, or anyone else on either side tried to browbeat a guest with namecalling in any of its unattractive forms, guests objected and clearly, emphatically pointed it out? And then firmly request that the interviewer deal in substance not slander?
And then as soon as the talk/radio show host tries it again(most probably in the very next sentence)the interviewee again steps out of the conversational stream and says,”No, No, No.” And remains unrelenting in naming the name calling for what it is. Unrelenting in an insistence on a more human, considerate conversation?
Man, I’d like to see that!!
Isn’t it funny how rightwingers are defending the liberal NYTimes? That’s because they’re not liberal. See Judith Miller and they’re array of rightwing columnists.
MEANWHILE, our daring, well-trained, and highly efficient military boyz are about to blow the crap out of some town in Afghanistan (just read a story on FireDogLake). Yay, now we can jump up & down about that too! Sigh. What will it take to put a stop to the perfidy of our government? What???
Sophia said:
Hopefully you understand that what we do here — even this post — is of a piece of trying to do exactly that. The perfidy is enabled by the media, eg. the New York Times who reported for a year on the front page about WMD that didn’t exist. The same Times is still doing the same shitty job, as exposed in my original story on their O’Keefe/pimp misreporting. The O’Keefe scam is about tearing down democracy and keeping people from voting, and “Patterico’s” blogging as discussed above attempts to bully everyone into supporting all of the above.
Hopefully regular readers here at least understand all of that, and understand that I’m not interesting in any sort of partisan or right/left pissing match.
It’s about democracy. Always has been. Just about everything that we do here.
And our “highly efficient military boyz are about to blow the crap out of some town in Afghanistan” because we, the people, have failed to stop the mechanisms that allow it. Eg. NYTimes mis-reporting and wingnut bloggers who bully them into doing so.
Brad, haven’t we spoken before of the impossibility of running away from us? Do not attempt to deny your liberal socialist past, instead you must embrace it!
… and remember, Comrade, the Central Commissariat still retains all relevant records concerning you, including the lunch receipts from 1978 in San Fernando that were billed to a Comrade Alinsky…
Comrade Zapata @#6
Ahhh….The Socialist boogey man…
To go along with the other far right wing boogey men…
Bill Ayers
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Muslims/Hindus/Buddhists etc
College educated “intellectuals”
Climate scientists
Evolutionary science
Liberals
Agnostics/Atheists
Right to choosers
Unionizers
Keith Olberman
Rachel Maddow
Any truly democratic dissent (unless they are the dissenters of course)
Fear is a masterful tool for control and domination…Dupe the public into fearing that which will actually liberate them.
Fear of socialism or any economic safety net that protects the public from the abuses of capitalism and it’s “free market” policies; is to be feared.
Why do those that worship capitalism fear economic justice ?
Why do wall street bankers/corporatists deserve a government bailout while the very people suffering from this economy get nothing ?
Why do tea partiers and far right wingers fear a full airing of the truth ?
Why does healthcare for all Americans anger so many ?
Why does a home, food and clothing for all make so many people quake in their fearful boots ?
Why does the opposing side of an argument give far righties a hissy fit ?
Isn’t true democracy a frank and earnest debate of all points of view ?…and then reaching a consensus decision after hearing all points of view ?
Why does equal media coverage of all points of view scare the right wing ?
If the free market capitalist right wingers idealogy is so infallible then why has it failed so miserably ?
Why do free market right wingers fear discussion of any other economic models ?
Why do free market right wingers smear with lies and fear based hysterics any economic system that may be more efficient and just for all ?
Why do otherwise smart folks who are middle class and losing ground fast defend the very system and people who are screwing them royally ?
All pertinent questions for Tea Partiers to ask themselves…
What are they actually afraid of ?…the sky has already fallen, and will continue to fall every 20-30 years under capitalist-free market economics….what they defend is an illusion..a memory of what never was.
From a July 2005 article…it still applies in spades today…
Dear Bluehawk @7–
Good questions all. But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again and I’ll keep on saying it–
I believe if we want to get those sorts of questions heard, they have to be asked from a place in our hearts that is clearly about love and a desire to understand and connect.
The people you would like to answer those questions in a new and different way are hurt and afraid. I think it most unlikely that anger will bring them out. My experience has been that it seems to have the opposite of the desired effect.
This is a challenge. I feel the anger and frustration, too. It is considerable.
I believe we must be far more creative than we have been so far and in figuring out ways to express our anger and frustration in ways that do not point fingers. We must offer a human connection by revealing ourselves more in our statements and questions. Sorry, I should say that reveal our heart and spirit selves more. Our head self has plenty of representation and I believe therein lies our own imbalance which is I suspect is only perpetuating the chaos and confusion we decry.
Okay, you can yell at me now.
love,
Dave