Talk:Naruto

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The Shipping Wars

I mean seriously, why is there nothing about the NaruSaku-NaruHina-SasuSaku( which is my fav) ship wars? It is practically common knowledge not just across the population of Naruto fans but otakus in general. I myself ended up coming to the wiki page coz I've never watched it & I couldn't remember which of them ended up being canon, so much was the chaos about it. I'd say the topic deserves at least a couple lines in the Reception if not a whole section by itself, especially considering the mangaka got death threats over it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.36.119.219 (talk) 19:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Probably cos it has nothing to do with the series. It's really common in fictional works. The focus on romance is only mentioned in the articles from the Last and the couple.Tintor2 (talk) 19:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2021

72.27.33.75 (talk) 15:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Best, DanCherek (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Genres

User

{{subst:DNAU|1989}} removed the genres listed in the article, a move I don't agree with. Martial arts was sourced by two reliable sources but they were removed and changed for comedy because Viz Media, the official series' publisher, uses said genre. While it is true that Naruto has comedy elements, it is not one of the most notable elements of the series, or at least it is definitely not more a comedy series than the average Weekly Shōnen Jump action series. Also, Viz Media doesn't always tend to use the correct tags for their series, for example: They tagged Berserk: The Golden Age Arc as sci-fi, a genre that is not usually used by websites when they talk about it, or they also uses "Family" for Hikaru no Go, when I don't see how that could even be a genre. Per MOS:A&M, we should use the three most relevant genres, and martial arts is more representative than comedy, even if the official website uses other tag. - Xexerss (talk) 00:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

References

• I personally think the Viz Media source is enough to state the three genres the manga belongs to. It should not take three sources to do that. Articles like Dragon Ball (manga), One Piece, and Bleach (manga) follow this. The note with the genres parameter states to not change the genres based on personal interpretations. It seems they were able to bypass this by finding sources to fit their ideas on how the genres should be. Based on that, I oppose the change they are suggesting. 1989 (talk) 00:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Personal interpretations mean adding genres without sources, based exclusively on what someone could think what the series is about. Adding sources that support what genre the series belongs to is not a personal interpretation. And that those three series use Viz website to source their genres doesn't mean that Viz Media is the only valid source. Also, per WP:PSTS, we should prioritize secondary sources, Viz Media is a primary source, and while it is not wrong to use it for basic facts like genres, it is not correct to take their word as an absolute just because they are the official publisher. - Xexerss (talk) 00:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

1989 you haven't given any rationale for your removal aside from just not wanting to add another source. That isn't an argument. If you disagreed with martial arts or felt the sources weren't reliable then there would be something to discuss. Add martial arts and just combine comedy with fantasy into comic fantasy. I believe people take the "Genres should be based on what reliable sources list them as and not on personal interpretations. Limit of the three most relevant genres in accordance with MOS:A&M." note way too literal. It is not a hard rule that there can only be 3; if you guys wanna put both martial arts and comedy bringing the total to 4 that is perfectly ok. Everything should be a case by case basis using common sense or, especially when there might be a dispute, "personal interpretations"/opinions to decide what the most relevant are. Considering the entire series is about fighting using the martial art of ninjutsu, I'm definitely of the opinion that the martial arts genre should not be omitted. Xfansd (talk) 03:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm of the idea that three genres are enough and while I don't agree with labeling Naruto as a comedy, if it is sourced by reliable websites, I can't oppose it. Anyway, I just think it's rude to have the genres removed and simply impose the idea of how this genre system should work instead of bringing it to discussion on the talk page in the first place. - Xexerss (talk) 04:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Splitting the infobox

I oppose splitting the infobox. The infobox should be at the top of the article (not in the middle) to make it easy for the reader to get the information they search for. All the anime-related and manga-related articles put the infobox at the top and the "Anime television series" section has always been a part of the main infobox and never was separated. So why this article in particular should be different? Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 22:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know the reason behind that decision or if there was a discussion about it beforehand. It is the only article with this splitting that I've seen. I agree that the infoboxes should include all media summary at the top of the article and I don't see a particular reason to have these kind of separations. - Xexerss (talk) 12:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Before changes were made, the infobox was very long and desperately needed trimming similar to One Piece. Infoboxes should not be cluttered with information, it should be compacted and easier for the reader to read, especially for a featured article. That said, I do not support bringing the infobox back where it was. 1989 (talk) 16:25, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

User:1989 you shouldn't have made this decision by yourself without having it discussed on the talk page. You made it harder for the reader to find the information they looking for. Even if the infobox is too long, it still summarizes the information that is hard to find in the article, this is what the infoboxes are made for. By shrinking the infobox and making it smaller you are forcing the reader to search in a very long article for the information, and by directing them to another articles it makes it even harder.

You can use collapsed infobox section template to make a bit easier to read.

And the infoboxs are made to be at the top of the article not in the middle! Putting the infobox in the middle of the article is so confusing! Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 23:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

It seems you're not aware of the WP:BOLD guideline, nor WP:SHOUT. I strongly disagree with your view that's the animes and etc is "hard to find" and "they have to search for it". When you click on the links, the information you're looking for is right there, so I didn't "make it harder" to do anything. I don't understand how multiple infoboxes makes you confused, you don't even make any arguments to back it up. 1989 (talk) 06:16, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

My fifty cents to Superninja. Maybe it would help to create an article dedicated to the two animes Naruto and Naruto Shippuden in a similar fashion One Piece and Attack on Titan have. However, obtaining material for such articles can be quite difficult.Tintor2 (talk) 12:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Answer question: Is Disney XD ended on 98 epiosdes?

CORRECT! This channel is ended on 98 episodes on November 5, 2011. And please do not put 97 episodes this is not ended on October 8, i really hates when peoples are idiots knowing about and saying 'Is the channel ended on 97 or 98 episodes?' (And then) '97 episodes correct' (INCORRECT!) when is finally news says in August, 2019, it was edited by GalaxyFighter55. If you do edited ended on 97 episodes again, we will be reverted edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.82.119.167 (talk) 11:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2021

I want to add some videos form the anime so that it would make people understand and visualize it better! Chiro 2001 (talk) 11:24, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Videos are copyrighted material. We could add an image that would stand out within the prose but that's hard to find. See Masashi Kishimoto's Jackie Chan inspired move as an example of outstanding image.Tintor2 (talk) 11:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: We can't include copyrighted content unless it meets fair use criteria. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:50, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2021

The quote in the "Naruto Run" section has an extra comma in it (which does not exist in the cited source). It should end with "Let's see them aliens.", not "Let's see them, aliens."

If a quote is poorly written grammatically we can't correct them. Instead we could use sic.Tintor2 (talk) 13:49, 30 April 2021 (UTC)