User talk:日本古武道

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日本古武道 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is my account. I was editing from my other computers without logging in because of security reasons on those computers. Someone disagreed with my edits with my IP and decided that was a sock puppet account, even though the claim of "vandalism" is actually just "editing". IP address for my account is not a sock puppet account; If so then no edits should be allowed from anyone's IP at any time. 日本古武道 (talk) 16:49, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You have evaded your block by continuing to edit as recently as today. This is not permitted by WP:BLOCK. To be clear, you are not allowed to continue editing. It is irrelevant whether you continue editing by using another account or by signing out and editing anonymously using an IP address. Both are prohibited by WP:BLOCK. As you don't seem to understand this yet, there are no grounds to consider lifting your block. Yamla (talk) 17:50, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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日本古武道 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have not vandalized any pages, but added and changed content which people did not agree with me on, and I was labeled a "puppet account" for editing under my IP address. There was no block on my account or IP at that time. Yamla is now saying that I was evading a block, which is not true as I did not edit anything while my IP was blocked (because that is impossible) as that infers I was using a VPN, (which I did not.) This current block happened just an hour ago because of JamesBWatson who blocked my IP while I was chatting with him on my IP talk page and I was directed to do this after requesting a liftfrom my IP's talk page.) This block is CURRENT what Yamla says absolutely not true. He is disagreeing with me and wants to punish me. Again I have not vandalized any pages, but changed the content to more accurately reflect the subject.

Decline reason:

"This current block happened just an hour ago because of JamesBWatson who blocked my IP while I was chatting with him on my IP talk page." You were blocked on 10/23/17. The fact you have just admitted to using your IP to bypass this block is enough for me to deny this request. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:30, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Yamla No that is not true and you know it. I was editing in the talk page of one of the articles and my IP account was NOT a blocked at the time on this account or my IP. I was talking on the page of an article, not EDITING the article. This account was under puppetry investigation, it was not blocked and I was not evading something that was not done up until an hour ago. This is why we are having this conversation now. I am not evading anything. Proof is right here with the times of the block at the bottom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:14.132.3.250 日本古武道 (talk) 17:55, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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日本古武道 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am not vandalizing pages! Just disagreed with. That's it. 日本古武道 (talk) 18:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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This account has been blocked since 2017-10-22. While this account is blocked, you are not permitted to edit. Whether or not your IP address is blocked is not relevant. It is true you were only editing article talk pages, but that's not permitted while you are blocked. --Yamla (talk) 18:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yamla It was just blocked JUST NOW. I cannot edit articles if my account is BLOCKED. It is relevant because that is what BLOCKED MEANS. That would be using a VPN. I was NOT using a VPN. What you are trying to say is that I have not logged into my account to edit a page, not EVADE a block by using a VPN to falsify my OP lovcation. REALLY? Stop it. This is completely false and you are either bitter and lying or don't know any better. 日本古武道 (talk) 18:30, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This account's block log is available at [1] and shows it has been blocked since 2017-10-22. --Yamla (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RickinBaltimore I was not blocked at the time I was chatting with him. Talk pages are not banned from wikipedia, are they? No, that is why you can edit them. Outside of articles. My IP was not blocked at that time. My edits to the chat page were REMOVED about an hour after I was blocked by JamesBWatson however, which seems like censorship.

One last time. Whether or not your IP address was blocked is not relevant in this case. What's relevant is whether or not this account was blocked. And you can see it was. I will not comment further. --Yamla (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

talk It was not blocked. What you just think you showed me a link to an IP blocker (Target is the name of the user, IP or IP range, written with the prefix "User:"). So yeah it does matter. It is relevant as you are telling me that it is blocked now. Yet see how we are talking on this page? That makes not sense and show me the rule where I am not allowed to edit my own talk pages? Just because you are angry at me for not "respecting your authority" does not give you the right to make up rules. Show me where I have edited anything while my IP is blocked. 日本古武道 (talk) 18:51, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IDHT. I will not comment further. It's unclear if you are being deliberately obtuse or if there are language problems here. I strongly suspect the latter in this case, as you are obviously trying to figure out what's going on. But I have spent enough time here. Maybe someone else can have more luck, communicating the circumstances here. This is the last you will hear from me. --Yamla (talk) 18:54, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:HA. You're harassing my nonsensically because you are mad. This is why you are here, to harass me. I do not know why we just had a discussion of what blocked means, you either do not know or are lying and harassing me. 日本古武道 (talk) 18:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(ec x2)To explain better, this account was blocked at 01:02 on 10/23/17. At that point you were no longer allowed to edit Wikipedia at all with this account OR logged out. This is considered block evasion, which reads "User accounts or IP addresses used to evade a block should also be blocked." In order to edit here again, you have to have your block lifted on this account. Editing logged out as an IP will result in that IP being blocked for evasion, and the likelihood of this account here being unblocked made less. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:59, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And nd I'd suggest you stop with the claims of "harassment" now if you want to be unblocked as well. Yamla was very patient in trying to explain the block to you. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:00, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RickinBaltimore Again, I am only stating to Yamla exactly what blocked means and pointing out how that functions, which is the truth, and goes directly to the reason he gave me for denying my request, which is ignorance or willful and would assume I was acting maliciously. There is no reason I cannot point out the truth, regardless if he is angry at me or his feelings are hurt. Please show me what blocked means, how it does not mean EXACTLY what I say it does (done through an IP); furthermore explain to me how editing my OWN TALK PAGE while I am "blocked" (AS I AM RIGHT NOW) is against any wikipedia rules. You made that claim, please show me show me that rule, and explain why Wikipedia does not block me from editing my page?

Please do not threaten me with things like:

I'd suggest you stop with the claims of "harassment" now if you want to be unblocked as well.

Please explain to me what you mean by that? Are you telling me that if I do not bow down to you, then you will assure that I will remain blocked? Is that correct? By saying that a false claim is false, you are going to make sure that I stay blocked? Is that true?

Additionally:

Please show me where I used a VPN to circumvent Wikipedia's system and edit as you have claimed (I take it you did so unknowingly.) Please show me a puppet account that I created (not my actual IP). You can't because I was not doing that. Fact. Again, I was editing from my IP, I was not logged in, that is why we are here. That is not editing while blocked, that means my IP was not blocked, and I was not blocked at Yamla has claimed. Also, Yamla has edited and done things that to me is clearly harassing me.

日本古武道 (talk) 19:29, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I won't make that call, but other admins will. Blocked means exactly that, let me quote you what it means: "A block prevents a user or IP range from editing Wikipedia. (They can still read it). Blocks are used to protect Wikipedia from possible improper use, or other activity that may breach editorial policies. Once blocks are over, they become history unless problems recur. Blocks can apply to a user account, an IP, or a range of IPs. Automated features also identify usage which apparently should be blocked; this can be quickly rectified if incorrect." In short, you are not allowed to edit Wikipedia unless you are petitioning to have your block removed. You have the right to post on your talk page, however if you abuse this, that right could be removed. And by admitting on the IP you were editing there, you were circumventing your block. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to explain one final time and be done with this. You are blocked. No matter where you edit, logged in or out, you are not allowed to edit Wikipedia, including at your IP. By admitting you were a blocked user on the IP page you were committing block evasion. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:41, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RickinBaltimore Rick I was not doing that. False. I was on my talk pages, which is allowed during blocks, which is why we are chatting here. Get it? I did not admit anything and have been denying your misunderstanding. AGAIN: I did not edit while I was blocked. It is impossible. 日本古武道 (talk) 19:45, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Editing logged out while blocked is a block violation. Period. Alos that IP talke page is not "your talk page". It's the talk page for the IP itself. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:46, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RickinBaltimore Actually I do not believe so. I was not blocked (again, that is an IP block, not magic.) That is talking about a IP block, and account block. This account was NOT blocked from editing. Show me that rule, give me a link to where it says I cannot edit my own talk pages, or log out of my wikipedia account on talk pages. If so I did not know it. Show it to me where it states I cannot log out and log back in to edit my own user talk pages, where I am NOT blocked from editing on Wikipedia. Show me a hyperlink to that. I did not willingly edit when I was blocked, or new about being blocked. My account was NOT BLOCKED. 日本古武道 (talk) 19:49, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SOCK and WP:EVASION. As a blocked user, you are blocked across Wikipedia, including IP editing. I suggest you drop this now. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:57, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not guilty of WP:SOCK or WP:EVASION as they are written there by editing my own talk pages. I am allowed to edit my talk pages. Saying otherwise and then accusing me of Sock Puppetry and Evasion as they are stated there by doing what I am allowed to do while blocked is clearly a misunderstanding of the rules and you cannot quote from either of those articles that I am disallowed from editing my talk pages. This is why we are having this conversation WHILE I AM BLOCKED. Right now, whether you want to admit it or not, you are trying to justify why you denied my request for unblocking. You accused me of wrongdoing by Wikipedia rules. I have not done that nor admitted to any wrong doing. I am not BEATING A DEAD HORSE (there, I am old fashioned and can spell it out) because clearly I am defending why you were wrong to assume that I was editing while I was blocked, which is false. You should either concede you misunderstood what I was saying or unblock me, because again I am not here to vandalize Wikipedia articles or spam it up. I am guilty of none of those things and I am explaining myself and I have repeatedly done so. Again, I am defending myself and you are telling me to back off or "else"..right? That is clearly a threat, is it not?日本古武道 (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]