Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free society

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The result was delete. Tone 17:52, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Free society

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Delete as incoherent content fork. This page does not have a clearly defined topic. The lead describes this page as detailing the libertarian conception of a free society. In itself, that is a problem because to describe a libertarian free society is to describe libertarianism. ie, this would be a content fork. However, the content does not match the lead, and does not describe the libertarian concept of a free society. For example, at least two of the three authors cited in the second paragraph to define "free society" are definitely not libertarians.

The content in general discusses civil liberties, political freedom, freedom of speech and liberty. It adds nothing to those discussions that each of those pages have. There is no overarching concept uniting them supported by the literature. (By contrast, there are coherent topics like open society.) I can't think how it can be improved without simply content forking. What is a "free society" is an issue in many philosophies, but it would be WP:synth to assemble those theories on one page.

As a page linked to in Wikipedia, there are also problems. There are pages which link here because the page is part of the libertarianism template, even though the content is not about libertarian ideas. And then there are pages with links to the page that (a) clearly don't mean a libertarian free society and (b) cannot be assumed to mean the same conception of a free society. (eg "X campaiged for a free society").

I'm not a deletionist by nature, but I can't see how this page can be rescued from being a messy content fork. OsFish (talk) 15:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All WP:SYNTH combining various concepts of freedom without a clear unification under the title. Per nom, the content does not relate itself to libertarianism and the lead and these are covered well elsewhere. Reywas92^Talk 17:18, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator and Reywas92. To be frank, it reads like an attempt by a libertarian to own the concept of "free society", using a history degree from Google. That may not have been anyone's intention, but the end result is the same kind of mess regardless. XOR'easter (talk) 18:22, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I think the creator means well, but this is an OR / SYNTH essay. // Timothy :: talk 22:29, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Maybe some things here could be merged into Libertarian utopia, which seems to be about the same concept, but has a clearer name.★Trekker (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- To be honest, that page looks incoherent as well. Is it about attempts to create libertarian societies, or is it a description of Nozick's work, or of libertarianism in general? The basic point I raised here - to describe a libertarian ideal society is to describe libertarianism, and thus is a content fork - would surely apply to that page too. OsFish (talk) 15:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - You might have a point.★Trekker (talk) 16:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.