Talk:Archaeoindris

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September 13, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Archaeoindris (pictured), a recently extinct giant lemur from Madagascar, was the largest known lemur, comparable in size to a male gorilla?

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Largest native mammal to have evolved on Madagascar

Someone has added that Archaeonidris was "the largest native mammal to have evolved on Madagascar". Is this true? David Sher (talk) 18:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I simply took this information from the Malagasy fauna page. That's a reasonably well-referenced page, although that specific piece of information has no footnote attached. The only plausible alternate contender are the (also extinct) Malagasy Hippopotamuses. - Atarr (talk) 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And now that I look at it further, it seems likely that the Hippopotomuses were larger. I think this was just someone adding in misinformation. Sorry for spreading it. I'll revise it to largest primate. - Atarr (talk) 05:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was the largest primate that ever existed. I will revise the wording. David Sher 03:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that would be gigantopithecus, so no. - Atarr (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the size of gigantopithecus is debated - if it was only six feet tall, it would not be larger than archaeoindris. Also, archeoindris was a primitive primate, related to lemurs. I'm not sure if your wording is better. David Sher (talk) 21:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Broken link

I removed a broken link but felt like leaving the URL. Is that okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.9.112.31 (talk) 01:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the link can't be repaired, it's fine to just delete it. I've taken care of it. Thanks. – Maky ^« talk » 01:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance of west coast

At the end of the lead, it says "it was still extant when humans arrived on the west coast of Madagascar". If this means "when humans arrived on Madagascar (btw they arrived on the west coast)", I think it is mistaken. If it means "when humans first spread around Madagascar and reached the west coast", I fail to see the relevance of the west coast to a creature that lived in the central highlands. Maproom (talk) 10:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It meant that humans first settled the west coast, and at that time, Archaeoindris was still around. I've removed the mention of the west coast from the lead to improve clarity. – Maky ^« talk » 14:55, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: MathewTownsend (talk · contribs) 18:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this soon! MathewTownsend (talk) 18:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I appreciate it. – Maky ^« talk » 20:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

review

This is a very well written article, mostly understandable even for someone like me due to your clear explanations. Quite interesting. Just a few questions about wording:

"deliberate climber that visited the ground to travel." - what is a deliberate climber?

A "deliberate climber" is literally what it sounds like. They move slowly and each foothold is carefully, and deliberately selected. Think of a sloth... or better yet, a slow loris. "Slow and deliberate climber" is both a technical term and also the most basic description I can come up with—in fact, that's what the team who wrote the "Slow loris" article used to describe them. I guess I could add a brief subsection about it on Arboreal locomotion and link to that... – Maky ^« talk » 00:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"one of the most speciose of all the subfossil lemur" - what is "speciose"?

It means there are many species: dictionary entry for -ose – Maky ^« talk » 00:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Furthermore, Lamberton did not realize that the smaller femurs he instead assigned to Archaeoindris belonged to a juvenile" - I think this sentence could be clearer. Could the "instead" be removed? Or moved to the end of the sentence?

Removed it. I can't remember why I included it. Does it still read clearly? – Maky ^« talk » 00:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it does. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I made a few edits that you're free to revert:[1]

Very good edits, minus the italicizing of the family names. (Only genus and species name need italics.) Thanks! – Maky ^« talk » 00:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Everything else looks good. It looks like a lot of work went into this article. I'll put this review on hold while you respond to my few comments.

MathewTownsend (talk) 14:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review-see WP:WIAGA for criteria (and here for what they are not)

Is it reasonably well written?
a. prose: clear and concise, respects copyright laws, correct spelling and grammar:

b. complies with MoS for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, summary style and list incorporation:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
a. provides references to all sources in the section(s) dedicated to footnotes/citations according to the guide to layout:

b. provides in-line citations from reliable sources where necessary:

c. no original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic:

b. it remains focused and does not go into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Does it follow the neutral point of view policy.
fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
no edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
a. images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

b. images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
Pass!

Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 01:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I appreciate the review. – Maky ^« talk » 02:44, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Size of humerus/femur

I don't know the length for the humerus or the femur. Does anyone here know?Gorilla beringei (talk) 20:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anthropogenic extinction?

The article's intro states that the lemur was "still extant when humans first arrived on Madagascar" and provides a link. The linked article says that humans arrived c. 1,200 years ago, meaning c. 800 CE. But the intro also says the lemur probably went extinct c. 350 BCE, meaning about 1,150 years before humans arrived. This needs to be cleared up, but I lack the requisite knowledge. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 00:43, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]