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Bon courage (talk) 14:11, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Critically acclaimed" / "universal acclaim"

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Please be careful in using terms like these. They indicate that there has been across the board praise of a particular thing. Including individual reviews of something doesn't meet that description. For us to say it's received such wide-ranging praise we'd need a source that actually describes it as much. For example, your BR source is just a single positive review. There could be 100 negative reviews that aren't mentioned, which is why we can't use that description. — Czello (music) 13:49, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Czello Well you are welcome to give the negative reviews, please add sources of the positive reviews for Steamboat vs Savage. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:50, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't provide the negative reviews because that contravenes WP:ONUS. Ultimately for something to be described as "critically acclaimed" the source needs to support that. As for Steamboat vs Savage - if there's issues with those sources, then they need improving. We don't lower the quality of an article to that standards. — Czello (music) 13:53, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Czello Acyually Savage vs Steamboatt is a pure Wp:OR statement not citing a single source for it being one of the best ever (it was and there are sources but no one bothered adding them), but you seem keen on selectively targeting my edits rather than improve the overall article. Anyway I won't add those terms, but please do not remove every source that did praise them such as TJR and SI which meet Wp:RS criteria. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not selectively targeting your edits, they popped up on my Watchlist so I addressed the issues with them, simple as that. If you feel there are similar issues elsewhere in the article, I encourage you to locate and fix them. — Czello (music) 14:05, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok then, @Czello, However well forbes did use the term, but I was told before the website isn't as reliable as the magazine so I won't add it back, just noted the positive response and didn't use the term again, thank you very much. Dilbaggg (talk) 14:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where Forbes is concerned, it's not that the website is unreliable, just "Forbes contributors". Basically, if you look under the author of whoever wrote the article, if it says "Forbes staff" then it's reliable. If it says "Forbes contributor" then it's unreliable. — Czello (music) 14:14, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Dilbaggg, are you doing alright? To be frank, I noticed you've been acting, well, somewhat strangely on your talk page. I am talking about your repeated actions of making small changes to a discussion from two months ago and immediately undoing your own edit. If you're not done with the discussion, it's perfectly fine to restart it. Besides, it's your talk page and you can undo your own edits as much as you'd like. Hope everything is okay. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
soetermans You must be here for my edit on GTA LCS, well my talk page my choice, but please don't be hostile over my edit at GTA LCS. I know I said I won't edit GTA articles but that was a disagreement about a different GTA not LCS which I edited before too and you were accepting on those, anyway am sorry about our issues in the past and hope we can work together to positively contribute to articles on Wikipedia. At the end of the day we are all humans and we make error but try our best to improve.. In case you leave future message I am editing today after a long gap and will be away for a long time again after today (at least thats what I expect, plans might change). Dilbaggg (talk) 11:16, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@soetermans Anyways thanks for checking out bro and really sorry about all the stupid allegations I gave in the EW issue few months back, I understand my mistake and hope all is well with you too bro, really nice hearing from you. Dilbaggg (talk) 11:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't throw your toys out the pram

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This is a rather silly deletion. It's not a "mention both or mention neither" situation. We mentioned that Ronda became a wrestler, but Mr T didn't. That's the purpose of the sentence. Deleting it because you don't get your own way is disruptive, please don't do it. — Czello (music) 16:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Czello then please only write about Ronda and the other two rather then mentioning all their name, she along with the other two did it. Its already at WM 35 section! Dilbaggg (talk) 16:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Czello Bro hope the current version of it suits you; cheers.. Dilbaggg (talk) 16:55, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't copy and paste WHOLE conversations

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Copy and pasting a WHOLE conversations of 12k characters is both against talk page guidelines and outright disruptive. If you want to make small quotes, please use the {{tq}} template — Czello (music) 14:17, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Czello ok thanks, i will try it out. Dilbaggg (talk) 14:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Czello bro i used the quotation format you gave, hope its ok now. Dilbaggg (talk) 14:28, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, [really not]. I think you've included the nowiki tags. Also you've still copied and pasted a whole conversation - I'm not sure why and no one's going to read that. — Czello (music) 14:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Czello ok I am trying to fix the quotation, but please don't go deleting it due to poor qutation formatting error! Dilbaggg (talk) 14:33, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've collapsed it just to save on space. — Czello (music) 14:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Czello ok thanks bro it looks much better now. Dilbaggg (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

well am out for today, good day. Dilbaggg (talk) 17:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're now introducing non-neutral language into the article - please don't. — Czello (music) 08:28, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Czello Bro even tho I am giving up on the article, (reasons given on WM 32 article), but using NYT source is in no way non neutral, please do not make misleading claims, those who review the edits can judge, anyway bro do whatever you want, this history revisioniom will only tarnish Wikipedia and just when people were starting to respect Wikipedia people would go back laughing at it as unreliable again, no wonder Wp:PW is under Wp:GS, anyway bro nothing personal and I understand your hard works you are a great e3ditor but are blinded by this misleading cancer of the wrestling world called Dave Meltzer. I hope you realize Meltzer's flaws someday (like the 2014 false claim Punk was coming back), good day! Dilbaggg (talk) 08:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Dave Meltzer published the 90k+ as a valid source the 80k+ is just a simple tweet! Dilbaggg (talk) 12:51, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Dilbaggg (talk) 08:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:GTA: Long Night

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Addressed there and edited. Dilbaggg (talk) 07:32, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Cena–Orton rivalry for deletion

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WP:OR in video game plots

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Could you please explain what you mean by removing original research in a video game plot? Plots in general aren't supposed to be cited, and I see you noticed a small error but you reverted an entire paragraph and quite a bit of copyediting. It's a bit confusing to me. Good day—RetroCosmos talk 11:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RetroCosmos The heist was done after CJ, Woozie and Ran Fa Li already established their casino business by Fish in a Barell, the heist was not necessary to set up the casino as you misleadingly made out cause of WP:Fancruft of the optional heist missions, we trim and include the main stuff only, just because you are a fan of the Caligulia's heist doesn't make it Wp:Notable over other events such as retaking Madd Dogg's mansion from Big Poppa and the Vagos. Point is the four dragon casino was already established long before the heist but you made it sound like it was established after the heist. Good day and wish you all the best on Wikipedia. Dilbaggg (talk) 06:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you're going to cast aspersions, at least make sure you get your facts straight. I didn't write it, I only did some copyediting. That being said, I don't necessarily agree that it's fancruft, though if it's not part of the any% plot it's probably not necessary to include. I'm not sure the relevance of wp:notable given that it's a test for entire article topics. Good day—RetroCosmos talk 22:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you understand the guidelines now, all the best to you too. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
with respect, I don't think you have a very solid understanding of the guidelines, and your work on San Andreas may be jeopardizing Rhain's efforts at promoting it to GA status. Good day—RetroCosmos talk 17:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was as per guidelines, only reason it was trimmed was to keep it short, and I accept it, but I seen your latest edits and you are now a good editor, congratulations, don't forget me when you get to the top XD, cheers.. Dilbaggg (talk) 15:15, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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TKO Group Holdings reverts

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Hi Dilbaggg, I’m hoping you can help me understand why you reverted my edits on TKO Group. In your first edit summary, you said “Wikipedia is not a place for censorship, you can’t remove Vince just cause you feel like it!“. Per my edit summaries, I was attempting to address all of the future-tense that appears in the Formation section. It seems to have been written at a time when coverage was just becoming available, but in 2024 we have what we need to re-write the section in a manner more becoming of an encyclopedia. In my edits, I tried to reword or trim things like “merger would mark”, “Endeavor was expected,” and other speculative information that didn’t bear out. Can you help me understand your concerns with this approach?

I’m also confused as to why you would revert my edits about WWE being headquartered in Stamford and WrestleMania becoming pay-per-view, which I added along with reliable sources. You didn’t provide an edit summary so it would be great to understand your objections.

Thank you for your time! ToucanSam1017 (talk) 22:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah sorry about that, I did a general revert to an older version, you are welcome back to add other information but do not remove Vince's picture. Best wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 17:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Dilbaggg, per our discussion above, I'd gone back into the entry to add back the other information, leaving Vince's picture as is, but it seems you've manually reverted it again with the comment: "Restored last reliable version by ManuelRSmith1995 before mass removal of contents without explanation"
Could you help me understand why you did so? For context, as mentioned prior, I was aiming to correct this entry towards more of an encyclopedic direction, since the dates of deals in Formation section have passed but are still stated in a future-tense, rather than past-tense. Along with other parts of that section being outdated & inaccurate as time has passed.
Also, in Talk:TKO Group Holdings I'd detailed my thought process over removing the Assets section and Drug Testing Policy section, since it seemed much of the information was merely pulled over from the WWE entry and weren't accurate ToucanSam1017 (talk) 21:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cause other edits were done in between and to revert the older info without having to write everything again I had to restore the older version entirely but I understand your concern and will in future just revert the part that is concerned, thanks. Dilbaggg (talk) 06:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look

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Hi, I came across this edit of yours. There is an LTA by bearing a similar name 'Bikrampuri', SPI case here. If you find something relevant, please notify me. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fylindfotberserk thanks, will do. His edits were sorta similar to User:Solomon The Magnifico but am not 100% sure, but if I notice anything similar to them will inform you, best wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 18:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I remember this one. Someone pinged me to a dispute involving them, a typical POV pusher. Thanks and welcome. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Dilbaggg (talk) 10:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline of Mughals

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I noticed that you keep adding that the Mughal Empire declined after Aurangzeb. Is there a reference to prove this? As far as I know, Bahadur Shah's short reign was quite stable. It was only after Nadir Shah's invasion that the Mughals declined in a major way. Ranadhira (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there are many source and I have now added source @Ranadhira Dilbaggg (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also another point to note Bahadur Shah lost territories to the Sikh Empire, but what matters is that many sources cite Mughal Empire declined with Aurangeb's death and I simply added one of the many sources, best wishes to you. Dilbaggg (talk) 07:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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