User talk:Jerium/Archive 3
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re special:diff/1000624367 is there some way for me to find out what change this person was trying to make to my page? WakandaQT (talk) 19:25, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- WakandaQT Click the "View history" tab then click "view filter log" located top-left. Jerm (talk) 19:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help, clicked 'details' to see what they tried to change. Did not know about this feature. WakandaQT (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- @The Only Zac: Follow the instructions I gave to WakandaQT. Jerm (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm going to delete my reply to you from the IP talk page so as to not give them further attention. — The Only Zac (talk) 03:41, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Page moves
Hello - when you do page moves like this Talk:Jandhyala#Requested move 28 September 2020, ie move a disambiguated title to the base name, please make sure that the new base name page has a hatnote to direct readers to any other page with that title. Also check incoming redirects: in this case Jandhyala (disambiguation) should have been redirected to Jandhyala (surname). Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Rochester, Indiana
Hi, you just messaged me about editing Rochester, Indiana, but I don't remember ever editing that page, or in fact any wikipedia page at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.16.223.79 (talk) 01:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, someone using the same network as you was attempting to vandalize Rochester, Indiana. Could have been someone else who lives with you. Jerm (talk) 04:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for February 16
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Arabic homily of Pseudo-Theophilus of Alexandria, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages Communion and Byzantines.
(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Recent RM closes
Hello Jerm,
Thanks for closing a few RMs recently ( Talk:Dashkasan_(city)#Requested_move_21_March_2021, Talk:Ismayilli#Requested_move_21_March_2021 ). In the interests of full disclosure, it seems that Gnominite was just a sockpuppet of the nominator who inexplicably attempted to sock their way to RM "victory" (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CuriousGolden ). This means that the only user in good standing endorsing those moves was me. I'm happy with your closes to move and still think that the nominator's evidence was convincing on a COMMONNAME basis, but just wanted to raise the SPI case in case you missed it and wanted to reopen the RMs for more input so that they are less "tainted" by nom's foolish sockpuppetry. SnowFire (talk) 19:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- SnowFire Thanks for letting me know, but I’m the one who filed the SPI. I already knew there was something suspicious about the account. The master didn’t need to make a sock for a move. CuriousGolden’s reasoning alone would’ve been enough since the opposition didn’t demonstrate common name or present WP:DIACRITICS in full. Your support though made the decision much easier. Jerm (talk) 20:13, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Haha, good point. I just saw Blabubbs striking Gnominite's contributions and didn't look too closely at the SPI initiator. It's frustrating when people are actually "right" but seemingly don't believe in the process enough to actually just let it proceed normally. SnowFire (talk) 20:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- It sucks that CuriousGolden was blocked. He was a good editor, but he didn't learn from his previous block and became impatient with the RMs. Jerm (talk) 20:24, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Haha, good point. I just saw Blabubbs striking Gnominite's contributions and didn't look too closely at the SPI initiator. It's frustrating when people are actually "right" but seemingly don't believe in the process enough to actually just let it proceed normally. SnowFire (talk) 20:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).
- Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS
- Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
- Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the
delete-redirect
userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.
- When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
- Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)
- A community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure is open until April 25.
Move review for MLB All-Star Game
An editor has asked for a Move review of MLB All-Star Game. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Move review
Hi. I noticed that you reopened the RM discussion at Talk:MLB All-Star Game. Would it also be possible to reopen the RM discussion at Talk:NHL All-Star Game? The two discussions have very similar rationales and were opened by the same editor at around the same time. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 05:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- LSGH I’m not sure. Unlike the RM for MLB, it’s been a month already since I closed the RM for the NHL, and the possible outcome for the MLB seems to be in favor of the RM. Not only that, it would be a bit unusual to reopen it at your request since you supported the RM. Jerm (talk) 06:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay if the outcome of the RM for the MLB turns out to an oppose or no consensus, I will reopen. But if it turns out if favor of the RM initiator, then I won’t. Jerm (talk) 06:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was thinking that you were not aware that both RM discussions ran alongside each other, and I had also not known that I would be involved had the RM for the NHL been opened today. I won't be canvassing anyway regardless of the result. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, I wasn't aware. I completely forgot that one until you brought it up. Jerm (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was thinking that you were not aware that both RM discussions ran alongside each other, and I had also not known that I would be involved had the RM for the NHL been opened today. I won't be canvassing anyway regardless of the result. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay if the outcome of the RM for the MLB turns out to an oppose or no consensus, I will reopen. But if it turns out if favor of the RM initiator, then I won’t. Jerm (talk) 06:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
WikiProject Fisheries and Fishing
Hi Jerm. On 25 October 2020, you closed down WikiProject Fisheries and Fishing with this edit by marking it as "inactive". You did not provide wider notification you were contemplating this draconic move. While the project was quiet at the time it most certainly should not have been closed down. There are over 2000 articles in the project, all identified and assessed. Maybe the project was quite at the time. That is not a reason to throw away all the assessment and categorising work. As it happens, I am the main contributor to over 100 articles belonging to this project. I have these articles listed on a page where I patrol them for activity and vandalism. I was certainly not at any point "inactive". Nor were other members "inactive", while new members have turned up, one of them querying whether they can restart the project under another name to fill the vacuum.
Still, this would all be sort of okay if your action was simple to undo. I have undone your edit, but the project remains dead. Every article in the project still continues to display a message on its talk page announcing the project is inactive (whether that has resulted in users removing assessments is going to take hours of work to determine). The table of assessment statistics has disappeared, and shows no signs of resurrecting. It is as though all that assessment work never happened. The project is now in shambles. Please undo the damage, and restore this project back to life. — Epipelagic (talk) 21:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic Hello I marked the project as inactive based on the overall editing activity of the members, not the amount of pages. At the time, many of the members we pretty much inactive editors. Some of them haven’t edited Wikipedia for months, others for years. Now that’s great news that new editors want to join. You marked the project as active again, so a bot should assess pages with the project banner. Also, I don’t believe you are an active member as you make it seem. If that were true, you would’ve undone my edit long ago. Jerm (talk) 21:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Try and take some responsibility for what you have done. That's what people do when they grow up. It happens I didn't notice your edit. That project page is not on my list – and it would never have occurred to me that an established editor would be so destructive. Even if I had noticed your edit I would have assumed it was basically benign and didn't need urgent addressing. I undid your edit nine days ago, but there has been no sign of a bot attempting to fix the mess. You have damaged a whole project. Now are you going to try and help the rest of us recover from the mess you have made, or are you going to continue behaving as though you are a prize jerk. If the latter, then it is time you left Wikipedia and found another place to do what you do. — Epipelagic (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic No because I've done nothing wrong. The project was inactive, so I marked it inactive. You should've had the page on watch since you cared so much. Jerm (talk) 22:54, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Btw, when you first messaged me about "shambling" the WikiProject, you aggravated me. but your concern and frustration is understandable. I don't blame you for it. But when you make a statment something like "That's what people do when they grow up.", you pissed me off. This discussion is over now, and I will be archiving it. Jerm (talk) 23:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- You have done something wrong. The project was NOT inactive. You were not a member of the project. You made NO effort to ensure the project was in reality defunct. You made NO effort to check the matter with members. A number of members were active. Being active doesn't necessarily mean always being active on the project talk page. You arrogantly declare I am not an active member, though I was marked as being an active member on the project members page and it is easy to show I regularly edit many articles belonging to the project. You didn't check with me. So how dare you declare I am not a member. Be truthful. YOU made the mess. Now you refuse to help clean it up in any way. If you get so angry when references are made to "growing up", then that might tell you something. I have noticed your pattern of rapidly "archiving" communications when someone attempts to hold you accountable, instead of trying to deal in a grown up way with the matter. Please take these arrogances away from Wikipedia. — Epipelagic (talk) 23:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- So you think I don't take responsibly because I archive my discussions? You're wrong. Jerm (talk) 23:59, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Then I suggest you fossack about on the various boards until you find out why the project assessment has been disabled the way it has, and how it can be at least restored to a functional level. Then perhaps we can bury the hatchet :) — Epipelagic (talk) 00:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Very well, I'm not a participant of the project, so I should've asked members first rather than assuming. Jerm (talk) 00:10, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Then I suggest you fossack about on the various boards until you find out why the project assessment has been disabled the way it has, and how it can be at least restored to a functional level. Then perhaps we can bury the hatchet :) — Epipelagic (talk) 00:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Now you can archive if you want. — Epipelagic (talk) 00:17, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic Please check for any changes. Jerm (talk) 00:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hasn't updated the assessment table so far, though it might eventually. This might restore the talk page assessments. Guess the bot needs time. — Epipelagic (talk) 00:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic I tried to restore the table manually, but a bot that handles the assessment tables won't allow it, see User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Fishing. I would also like to apologize btw. Truth is, I didn't want to handle it because I never did before until now. Was hoping a bot would just restore it Jerm (talk) 01:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. I think the update to the WikiProject Council/Directory will work eventually. — Epipelagic (talk) 01:26, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic I believe I found the issue. The project banner was marked inactive Feb. 28 of this year, and on March 1st, the assessment table vanished. I would give it a few days, WP 1.0 bot is not fast. I did restore the table again, but it should stay this time because of the project banner is no longer marked as inactive. Jerm (talk) 04:09, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Jerm — Epipelagic (talk) 04:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic I believe the table has finally updated. Jerm (talk) 00:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. Everything seems back to normal, the assessments have come back on the article talk pages... phew... — Epipelagic (talk) 01:57, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Please explain
Please explain why you made this reversion, rendering, yet again, the Soil Project inactive. This is the second time you have interfered with this project and rendered it inactive. You have no business interfering with active projects like this one. In particular, you have no business interfering with projects you have never even participated in. We have been over this in some detail before. What is the matter with you? I suggest you immediately revert your foolish reversion. — Epipelagic (talk) 04:39, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Epipelagic I or any editor can mark a project active or inactive, and since you are not a member either, you can't really assess the project as active but it is evidently shown that there is no activity on WikiProject Soil. And because you are not a member, you don't really care to maintain the project but rather prove a point which is more counterproductive and dishonest of you than marking a obvious inactive project as inactive. Jerm (talk) 04:47, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).
Interface administrator changes
- Following an RfC, consensus was found that third party appeals are allowed but discouraged.
- The 2021 Desysop Policy RfC was closed with no consensus. Consensus was found in a previous RfC for a community based desysop procedure, though the procedure proposed in the 2021 RfC did not gain consensus.
- The user group
oversight
will be renamed tosuppress
. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.
- The user group
- The community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure was closed, and an initial draft based on feedback from the now closed consultation is expected to be released in early June to early July for community review.
Autopatrolled granted
Hi Jerm, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Beeblebrox (talk) 02:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).
- Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless
- Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)
- Consensus was reached to deprecate Wikipedia:Editor assistance.
- Following a Request for Comment the Book namespace was deprecated.
- Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.
- After a Clarification request, the Arbitration Committee modified Remedy 5 of the Antisemitism in Poland case. This means sourcing expectations are a discretionary sanction instead of being present on all articles. It also details using the talk page or the Reliable Sources Noticeboard to discuss disputed sources.
Sunshine
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Hello Jerm! Interstellarity (talk) has given you a bit of sunshine to brighten your day! Sunshine promotes WikiLove and hopefully it has made your day better. Spread the sunshine by adding {{subst:User:Meaghan/Sunshine}} to someone else's talk page, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. In addition, you can spread the sunshine to anyone who visits your userpage and/or talk page by adding {{User:Meaghan/Sunshine icon}}. Happy editing! Interstellarity (talk) 20:05, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
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Happy first day of summer, Jerm!! Interstellarity (talk) 20:05, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.BaxçeyêReş (talk) 23:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Revisions to Dahabshiil page
Hi Jerm,
Thanks for your message and sorry for not providing details of edits in the edit summary. I will try to re-enter the edits but will provide a detailed summary of the changes, all of which were made to address inaccuracies and poor referencing.
Wiki Camels (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Wiki Camels Hello Wiki Camels, I saw in your edit you replaced sourced content with unsourced content. Just make sure you add reliable sources when adding/replacing content. Happy editing & cheers! Jerm (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Victor Salva
Hello, thank you for your message about my triggering the edit filter on the Victor Salva page. I realised on seeing the message from the filter that I was going about it wrong and added a comment to the discussion on the talk page instead. To clarify: My basic point is that listing his convicted sex offender status separately from his occupation as a film maker is an error. A conviction for sexually assaulting a child is indicative of his occupation as a pederast and that occupation should be listed concurrently with his other occupation as a film maker. He used the film making occupation to fulfill his pederasty occupation; he groomed and assaulted the child and was convicted of doing so. If he had murdered someone it would be in the first sentence: crimes against children are on the same level. I believe all crimes against children are ALWAYS of primary note and obfuscating them only serves to undermine the purpose Wikipedia and the recording of reliable factual data. I appreciate the consensus may not be with me but I feel it is important to stress this. Thank you for your time, sorry to be a bother. TJK.2A02:C7F:A8A7:BE00:1C29:3B74:D488:DC40 (talk) 17:26, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- In your edit You were WP:SHOUTING in the article. That is not encyclopedic, and your personal beliefs do not supersede Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Jerm (talk) 18:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
You are correct about my attempted edit to the article; I apologise, the fault is mine. 2A02:C7F:A8A7:BE00:899D:5440:43D8:EACF (talk) 21:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Request
Dear, Can you mediate in dispute or help maintain pages of Ahle Sunnat Movement of Islam. ScholarM (talk) 13:19, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- ScholarM There is nothing I can do for you when you haven't attempted to resolve the matter on the article talk page, and as I can tell by the current situation, both of you are eligible for a block per WP:3RR violations. Furthermore, you've taken the issue to multiple noticeboards and now on my talk page, but you couldn't use the article talk page? I am no longer involving myself in this dispute. Jerm (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).
Interface administrator changes
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- Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
- An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.
- IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.
- The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.
ANI
The question is not whether they aren't allowed to but whether they should/it's helpful. —valereee (talk) 23:01, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Valereee It's as you said, I've got my opinion, you've got yours...and that includes Jibal as well as every other editor on Wikipedia. Jerm (talk) 23:06, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- So you don't think it's even slightly troubling that someone who hasn't participated at ANI in fifteen years decides to comment 9 times (at last count) at someone else's report while basically ignoring their own? That doesn't seem at all problematic? Because to me it seems full of potentially problematic issues, and I'm surprised an editor with your level of experience wouldn't see that as at least worth calling out. —valereee (talk) 23:10, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Jibal is an experienced editor, they can handle themselves. And it only becomes problematic when you deviate from the real issue of a discussion. Jerm (talk) 23:18, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- They have 1200 edits. Zero at ANI in the past 14 years. How is that more than just not-a-complete-newb, especially w/re ANI? Giving advice to a less-experienced editor is generally considered a good thing. My feeling was that they were actually hurting themselves at their own ANI -- and in fact people at their ANI were pointing out their edits at the GS section -- which is what I told them. —valereee (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Valereee You referred to Jibal's behavior in a ANI case that had nothing to do with Jabal at all, only because Jibal is the subject in another case. You didn't give advice, you were instigating and deviating from the real issue. Jerm (talk) 23:44, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Eh. To me, the real issue for Jibal is the outcome of their own ANI. But okay, agree to disagree. —valereee (talk) 23:51, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Valereee This comment was not made on Jibal's ANI case. Jerm (talk) 23:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, not sure I'm following...you're saying if I'd posted it to their ANI case, that would have made a difference? Because multiple people had posted similar to their ANI case, and they didn't re-target. After I posted to GS's, they posted to their own ANI several times in quick succession, apologizing for their behavior that had been discussed in that thread. Not trying to claim causality. But it might keep them from getting blocked, so all good. —valereee (talk) 00:07, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Pointing out an editor's behavior in a ANI case that has nothing to do with them is not helpful, and Jibal's is already aware of their own ANI case, so continuing to point out their behavior in other cases is not only time-wasting but slows down the process in resolving a ANI case that has nothing to do with the editor as it is an unnecessary distraction from the actual issue of the case. Jerm (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Once again, agree to disagree. —valereee (talk) 00:28, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- No, don't bring up issues to an ANI case that has nothing to do with the case. Jerm (talk) 00:37, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Once again, agree to disagree. —valereee (talk) 00:28, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Pointing out an editor's behavior in a ANI case that has nothing to do with them is not helpful, and Jibal's is already aware of their own ANI case, so continuing to point out their behavior in other cases is not only time-wasting but slows down the process in resolving a ANI case that has nothing to do with the editor as it is an unnecessary distraction from the actual issue of the case. Jerm (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, not sure I'm following...you're saying if I'd posted it to their ANI case, that would have made a difference? Because multiple people had posted similar to their ANI case, and they didn't re-target. After I posted to GS's, they posted to their own ANI several times in quick succession, apologizing for their behavior that had been discussed in that thread. Not trying to claim causality. But it might keep them from getting blocked, so all good. —valereee (talk) 00:07, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Valereee This comment was not made on Jibal's ANI case. Jerm (talk) 23:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Eh. To me, the real issue for Jibal is the outcome of their own ANI. But okay, agree to disagree. —valereee (talk) 23:51, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Valereee You referred to Jibal's behavior in a ANI case that had nothing to do with Jabal at all, only because Jibal is the subject in another case. You didn't give advice, you were instigating and deviating from the real issue. Jerm (talk) 23:44, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- They have 1200 edits. Zero at ANI in the past 14 years. How is that more than just not-a-complete-newb, especially w/re ANI? Giving advice to a less-experienced editor is generally considered a good thing. My feeling was that they were actually hurting themselves at their own ANI -- and in fact people at their ANI were pointing out their edits at the GS section -- which is what I told them. —valereee (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Jibal is an experienced editor, they can handle themselves. And it only becomes problematic when you deviate from the real issue of a discussion. Jerm (talk) 23:18, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- So you don't think it's even slightly troubling that someone who hasn't participated at ANI in fifteen years decides to comment 9 times (at last count) at someone else's report while basically ignoring their own? That doesn't seem at all problematic? Because to me it seems full of potentially problematic issues, and I'm surprised an editor with your level of experience wouldn't see that as at least worth calling out. —valereee (talk) 23:10, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
ANI threads
- I don't know what the discussion above is about, but I think you should consider whether your input is necessary or helpful on the (very, very) large number of ANI threads where you've offered it recently. For example, maybe you could find something more constructive to do with your time than providing boilerplate commentary without making even the most basic investigation, as you did here? --JBL (talk) 02:18, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- JayBeeEll I admit I didn't see the article talk page of Talk:Three tramps, but that doesn't mean I didn't give any advice. Whether it was helpful, somewhat, or not at all helpful is based on one's perspective. Jerm (talk) 02:29, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, you gave advice -- you gave useless advice. There is no possible perspective from which giving advice that someone do something they have already done is helpful. The fact that you are making prolific comments without even the most basic effort to ensure that they could be valuable is bad. Stop it. --JBL (talk) 02:39, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- I know my advice was useless, that's why I noted that I didn't see the article talk page. Either way, the case has/is continuing with little hindrance, but your concerns are understandable. Jerm (talk) 02:52, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, you gave advice -- you gave useless advice. There is no possible perspective from which giving advice that someone do something they have already done is helpful. The fact that you are making prolific comments without even the most basic effort to ensure that they could be valuable is bad. Stop it. --JBL (talk) 02:39, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- JayBeeEll I admit I didn't see the article talk page of Talk:Three tramps, but that doesn't mean I didn't give any advice. Whether it was helpful, somewhat, or not at all helpful is based on one's perspective. Jerm (talk) 02:29, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
I think you made a mistake!
Greetings Jerm, I was notified about your edit on User talk:140.213.69.87 where you claimed this editor contributed to my user page. However, there are no edits done by this IP-address on my userpage or my talkpage. I have no idea how you got that notion? I think you're fairly new at editing, so if you reply to this message, please don't forget to ping me like you did on the talk page of this IP-address. --Dutchy45 (talk) 20:53, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
I just had a look at your user page and it's clear you're not a new editor. Which makes your edit on the talk page even more mystifying to me! --Dutchy45 (talk) 21:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Dutchy45 There was no mistake. The IP was attempting to edit your page, but the edit filters did not allow it. Every page (including talk pages) has a filter log. On your userpage, click "view history" and on the top-left, click on "view filter log". Jerm (talk) 21:15, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
- Well, knock me over with a feather! Thanks for the info. I've never looked at that before. --Dutchy45 (talk) 21:54, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
me again (Dutchy45)
Greetings again Jerm, I've been thinking about that IP wanting to edit my userpage and I'm wondering if there's any way I can see what he was trying to do? Also; how the heck did you find that out? If you hadn't alerted me I never would have known. And it wasn't even the first time somebody tried to do that :) Regards, --Dutchy45 (talk) 14:54, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Dutchy45 Once on the filter log of your userpage, you'll see the following:(details | examine). Click on "details" to see the IP's changes. Jerm (talk) 20:53, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Dutchy45 (talk) 21:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Burnage Academy for Boys
Hi, I received a message from you pertaining to an edit I attempted on the Burnage Academy for Boys page. I work at the school. Under the 'controversies' section, I wanted to remove the reference to Mutasem Alqtaishat. The 'controversy' linked to him was unrelated to the school other than he had previously worked there (see the referenced article here: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/struck-off-burnage-teacher-who-2507173).
I am new to editing so apologies if I have not followed guidelines. Whilst some of the issues listed under 'controversies' are unavoidable, they do not paint an accurate picture of the school. The reference to Mutasem Alqtaishat in particular, while not the most severe, is completely unrelated to the school and as such I feel it can be removed.
Greg
- Hello Greg: I've removed the content as the incident had nothing to do with Burnage Academy. Jerm (talk) 22:05, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).
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- An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.
- Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)
- Following an amendment request, the committee has clarified that the Talk page exception to the 500/30 rule in remedy 5 of the Palestine-Israel articles 4 case does not apply to requested move discussions.
- You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.
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Hello Jerm. I am Jay Edwards, State Representative from Ohio. It was brought to my attention that a ghost/anonymous account on Twitter is bragging about putting a bunch of false info on my Wikipedia page. I just tried deleting it and you sent me a message saying it was unapproved. What do you suggest I do? Feel free to give me a call! Thanks Jay Edwards 740-707-9099 SE45701 (talk) 22:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC) |
- Well, your first edit you attempted to make here was disallowed by Wikipedia's edit filter system. However, at Jay Edwards (politician): Revision history, two of your edits were successfully allowed. Whether your edits are appropriate, I'm not really sure. I will/have request assistance from an administrator on how to proceed. Be aware, other editors may revert your changes. Jerm (talk) 22:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).
- Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
- A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
- A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
- A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.
- The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.
- A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.
- The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.
Suffix (hires)
Hey, @Jerm I have a question for you, what does it mean the suffix (hires ) in file name. 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 11:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Vikipolimer Hires stands for "high resoulustion". The suffix is usually added when a low-quality barnstar gets a remastered version yet still the same design. Example:File:Mining Barnstar Hires.png. Jerm (talk) 11:57, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Jerm So can I add the "Hires" suffix to this right? 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 12:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Vikipolimer There's no need since there is no other Technician Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 12:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Okay @Jerm thanks for your kindly responses :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 12:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Vikipolimer There isn't a policy or guideline for using the suffix on an image file. Wikipedia can't make a policy or guideline for how image files are titled. That's up to WikiCommons, so you shouldn't really think about the suffix. It's been a long time since I used the suffix. You should just title the image file according to how you see fit. Jerm (talk) 12:37, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Okay @Jerm thanks for your kindly responses :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 12:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Vikipolimer There's no need since there is no other Technician Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 12:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Jerm So can I add the "Hires" suffix to this right? 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 12:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Which one?
Hey @Jerm I didn't understand what was wrong Lead me! Thanks 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 18:23, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Graphic Designer's Barnstar | |
Thanks for you leading to new designers! 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 20:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC) |
Administrators' newsletter – October 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).
- Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
- Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.
- DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.
- A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
- Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
- The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.
- Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
- The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
Administrators' newsletter – November 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).
- Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.
- Toolhub is a catalogue of tools which can be used on Wikimedia wikis. It is at https://toolhub.wikimedia.org/.
- GeneralNotability, Mz7 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections. Ivanvector and John M Wolfson are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves to stand in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections from 07 November 2021 until 16 November 2021.
- The 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of five new CheckUsers and two new Oversighters.
Contributions/Changes to Captain John Parker
Hello Jerm. I recently received a message from you about recent contributions I made to the Wikipedia page for Captain John Parker. You need to double check who really is making contributions or changes to Wikipedia pages. Here's the problem. I NEVER EVER made any contribtuions or changes to the Wikipedia page of Captain John Parker because I have no freaking idea who this person is. So you need to be extreme careful about making FALSE accusations. If you are a monitor or administrator for Wikipedia, you may not have that position for very long. Thank you. Racinfool67 (talk) 05:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)Paul Reichert
- The only message I sent to someone concerning the article was an IP editor who attempted to make this edit. Other than that, I don’t give a shit on what you have to say. Jerm (talk) 10:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).
- Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
- The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)
- Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections is open until 23:59, 06 December 2021 (UTC).
- The already authorized standard discretionary sanctions for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes), broadly construed, have been made permanent.
A barnstar for you!
The Effective Altruism Barnstar | ||
Thank you for creating this barnstar for the EA project! Qzekrom (she/her • talk) 06:46, 18 December 2021 (UTC) |
December 2021
Hello, I'm Gab4gab. Your recent edit(s) to the page Falkirk High School appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Gab4gab (talk) 10:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Gab4gab You better check the edits made before you send out template warnings. This is not how leads are supposed to look like. Jerm (talk) 12:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing your erroneous edit. Gab4gab (talk) 13:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Gab4gab Thank me for fixing your erroneous revert on something you could’ve fixed yourself but was too damn lazy. I didn’t notice it, you did, made a revert instead of doing a simple backspace then pester me about an error. You’re welcome. Jerm (talk) 21:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing your erroneous edit. Gab4gab (talk) 13:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year!
Hello Jerm! Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:36, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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You honestly deserve a barnstar much more than I do, XTools says you've made 75 edits on Stuart Attwell. — Coolperson177 (t|c) 15:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC) |
Coolperson177 Wow, that's a lot of edits. Thank you very much. Jerm (talk) 15:19, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).
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- Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.
- Additionally, consensus for proposal 6C of the 2021 RfA review has led to the creation of an administrative action review process. The purpose of this process will be to review individual administrator actions and individual actions taken by users holding advanced permissions.
- Following the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Cabayi, Donald Albury, Enterprisey, Izno, Opabinia regalis, Worm That Turned, Wugapodes.
- The functionaries email list (functionaries-enlists.wikimedia.org) will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.
LGBT adoption in Europe - Inquiry
Hi there, user Jerm,
As seen on LGBT rights in Croatia, since 2021, Croatia has allowed joint adoptions for same-sex couples. That is what I tried to add on LGBT adoption in Europe section.
Best regards,
S.V. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A05:4F46:29:5300:4428:ECA9:1375:57EE (talk) 17:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).
- The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.
- The user group
oversight
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- Community input is requested on several motions aimed at addressing discretionary sanctions that are no longer needed or overly broad.
- The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
- A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.
- Voting in the 2022 Steward elections will begin on 07 February 2022, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2022, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey is open until 11 February 2022.
Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).
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- A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
- A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.
- The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
- Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
- The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)
- Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.
- The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
- Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
- The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.
Notability
Hey Jerm, I want to create an article for an emerging actress. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teacherswhorock (talk • contribs) 03:59, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).
- An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.
- Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the
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rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928) - When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)
- Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Opening of proceedings has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
- A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
- A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).
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- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
- A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).
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- Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.
- Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
- The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.
- Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
- An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.
You're gone
I am only now just finding out that you have retired. Sorry to see that. I wish you the best, and I hope you enjoy whatever you do in life. Peace. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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For your dedication to adding barnstars. MTWUYW. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:19, 24 June 2022 (UTC) |
Page mover granted
Hello, Judekkan. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.
Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect
is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.
Useful links:
- Wikipedia:Requested moves
- Category:Requested moves, for article renaming requests awaiting action.
If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! TonyBallioni (talk) 03:22, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).
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- An arbitration case regarding conduct in deletion-related editing has been opened.
- The New Pages Patrol queue has around 10,000 articles to be reviewed. As all administrators have the patrol right, please consider helping out. The queue is here. For further information on the state of the project, see the latest NPP newsletter.
A Graphic Designer's Barnstar for you!
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I don't see this version of the award on your awards page yet so I figured I had to give you it. You're fricken awesome, thanks for what doing what you do. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:10, 21 July 2022 (UTC) |
- Hey man im josh Thank you, I really do enjoy making them. Judekkan (talk) 18:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).
- An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
- An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.
- The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
- Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)
- The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.
- You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
- Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
- Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.
The Oversighter's Barnstar
Hi @Jerm, I hope you are doing well. I just redesigned the new The Oversighter's Barnstar can you check It? 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 00:24, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Vikipolimer Hey Viki, I'm doing fine. Your barnstar looks really nice, especially the color. I like it, but it looks a bit like the Patroller's Barnstar. Stick with the barnstar, toss away the overlapping-shield. Give the barnstar a puzzle-look, but with some of the puzzle-pieces missing, like the oversight logo. Judekkan (talk) 03:07, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Judekkan, I am glad you are doing well. I will design a new star as you suggested. 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 03:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).
- A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
- An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.
- The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
- The WMF is looking into making a Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the questions provided. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.
- An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
- The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.
- The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
- Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.
Administrators' newsletter – October 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).
- Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
- Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
- Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.
- The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to Preferences → Gadgets and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.
- Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
- A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
- The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.
- An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
- Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
- You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
- An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
- Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.
Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).
- The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
- An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
- The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
- AmandaNP, Mz7 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections. Xaosflux and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
- You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
- Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like
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or{{uw-ublock|contains profanity}}
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I'm sorry, but I really don't agree with the move here. Your rationale is based on an ngrams search bringing back the most hits for 'Gas station', but of course that will happen, as the US + Canada have larger populations than other English speaking nations.
The arguments against centred around WP:ENGVAR and WP:COMMONALITY, which can't easily be corroborated with a simple ngrams query, for example. Some of the supporting statements were either neutral or simply showing support for a move, but not specifying a move target. YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Seconded. This needs to be reopened or it will have to go to review. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:20, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
YorkshireExpat I understand but despite the varieties of English, some more dominant than others depending on the country as you said (US + Canada), "the variant spelling [that] exists within a national variety of English, the most commonly used current variant should usually be preferred" per MOS:COMMONALITY; And in this RM, US + Canada spelling happens to be the dominant as you stated because of the population superiority. The RM initiator's ngrams only confirms the WP:common name, and that is WP:AT policy. "Filling" and "Petrol" stations are not distinguishable topics from a "gas station", therefore, lesser dominant alternative spellings would just be redirects as "a variant spelling appears in a title, make a redirect page to accommodate the others, as with artefact and artifact, so that all variants can be used in searches and linking" per mos:commonality. Despite the difference in spelling, if there is one thing everyone has already agreed upon in the RM, is the fact that the same subject is being discussed. Judekkan (talk) 13:39, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- But most people in the world do not call the product gas so this does not meet WP:COMMONALITY! And if we always followed ngrams then American terminology would always win over. That's why we have WP:ENGVAR and WP:COMMONALITY. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Necrothesp Claiming that most people do not use the term "gas" in the world isn't helpful when statistics is not provided. Am I to take an editor's word at face value to determine consensus? If that is so, then I am disregarding WP:RM instructions and guidance. Also, WP:COMMONALITY guideline falls under WP:ENGVAR. Did I miss something in WP:ENGVAR? If so, please elaborate in detail rather than just linking WP:ENGVAR. I can only assume you are referring to the "English Wikipedia prefers no national variety of English over others." That is true, but that alone doesn't determine RM consensus. Judekkan (talk) 16:40, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- There was no consensus! It should have been closed as no consensus. Any look at Google will tell you that most English-speaking countries use "petrol" not "gas". But we're not suggesting a move to "petrol station", merely to retaining the neutral "filling station". Anything else would be a further move to converting English Wikipedia to American English Wikipedia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- MOS:COMMONALITY is quite clear that we favour using an international name if available even if some evidence points to 1 variety being more common. Indeed 2 of the supporters only seemed to support the 3rd move (which I'm not disputing and I don't thin the other 2 people here are) so it also looks like there is a 5-5 !vote count in favour of moving so I don't see consensus in a majority vote for the other 3 moves anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:09, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- From WP:ENGVAR,
The English Wikipedia prefers no national variety of English over others
, and yet you are clearly preferring American English over other varieties. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:46, 25 November 2022 (UTC)- Evidence was presented by the opposers (though I agree not as much) like in Nigeria but can we really take the claim that "Gas station" has been the most common term in British English since 2000 when I'd never heard the term except maybe on Wikipedia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:28, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- No one says 'Gas station' in the UK, apart from possibly some Gen Z (Zee??) people who have seen too many films ;) YorkshireExpat (talk) 23:07, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Evidence was presented by the opposers (though I agree not as much) like in Nigeria but can we really take the claim that "Gas station" has been the most common term in British English since 2000 when I'd never heard the term except maybe on Wikipedia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:28, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Necrothesp Claiming that most people do not use the term "gas" in the world isn't helpful when statistics is not provided. Am I to take an editor's word at face value to determine consensus? If that is so, then I am disregarding WP:RM instructions and guidance. Also, WP:COMMONALITY guideline falls under WP:ENGVAR. Did I miss something in WP:ENGVAR? If so, please elaborate in detail rather than just linking WP:ENGVAR. I can only assume you are referring to the "English Wikipedia prefers no national variety of English over others." That is true, but that alone doesn't determine RM consensus. Judekkan (talk) 16:40, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Move review for Gas station
An editor has asked for a Move review of Gas station. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. YorkshireExpat (talk) 23:21, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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I know, I know. But I have personalized this template at User:ToBeFree/rollbackgiven, and you have never received this version yet. I hope that, with your experience, you might enjoy reading it in a way most new rollbackers can't yet do.
Hi Jerium,
After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:
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To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Wikipedia. Happy editing!
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Happy editing! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't realize you were a long-time user. Nice to see that you've returned, although I don't think we had interacted previously. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Blaze Wolf I never really interact with other editors, only when I'm involved in a dispute. Other than that, I keep to myself. Jerium (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I was mainly referring to via edits on an article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Blaze Wolf Ah, it's been a few years since I've put in effort expanding an article or simple edits other than revert vandalism; too many eyes watching pages I would like to improve (like David). Jerium (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Most of the articles I edit usually don't have that many people watching them because they aren't usually that big or controversial topics (mainly video games cause that's my main interest, although I have also edited some car related articles and even written a few myself) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Blaze Wolf I still plan on making new articles, and improve the stubs I already made, more freedom. Anyways, thanks for this. Happy editing & cheers! Jerium (talk) 00:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Most of the articles I edit usually don't have that many people watching them because they aren't usually that big or controversial topics (mainly video games cause that's my main interest, although I have also edited some car related articles and even written a few myself) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Blaze Wolf Ah, it's been a few years since I've put in effort expanding an article or simple edits other than revert vandalism; too many eyes watching pages I would like to improve (like David). Jerium (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I was mainly referring to via edits on an article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Blaze Wolf I never really interact with other editors, only when I'm involved in a dispute. Other than that, I keep to myself. Jerium (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)