User talk:KingEdinburgh

John D. Lavelle

@KingEdinburgh, EPMen, Garuda28, and SuperWIKI: just in case you guys don't know, both the House and version of the 2025 NDAA include a stipulation to restore John D. Lavelle's four-star rank, while the Senate's version would advance him to lieutenant general. Neovu79 (talk) 06:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Morinao's new article, Legislative history of United States four-star officers from 2017, has already shed some light on this matter. It'll require updating, along with the relevant portions of the 1947–1979 and 1980–2016 companion articles, if Lavelle's posthumous promotion passes both houses of Congress. SuperWIKI (talk) 13:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Possible New SG and ASH

@KingEdinburgh, EPMen, Garuda28, and SuperWIKI: any guess on who will take over as Surgeon General of the United States and as Assistant Secretary for Health, now that Trump will be heading back to the White House? I have a feeling that he may bring back Jerome Adams and Brett Giroir to fill those positions. Neovu79 (talk) 01:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Neovu79 As much as it pains me to type this, one named I've heard for Surgeon General is Joseph Ladapo. EPMen (talk) 01:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@EPMen I heard of that name as well, but more for Secretary of Health and Human Services. Neovu79 (talk) 01:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Senior military turnover

@Neovu79: There's been much talk on how the incoming president may be bolder in defying norms in his second term.

Would relieving a select few four-star officers associated (justifiably or otherwise) with divisive policies under the outgoing administration, and promoting those found to be more sound in personal interviews (like CJCS Milley, who was deemed more "macho" than DOD pick Goldfein), be feasible?

Social media, echo chamber that it is, is worrying about the prospect of a military purge, clearly not understanding the nuances of officer appointment procedures under Title 10. That being said, high-ranking officers holding extra-constitutional beliefs are not unheard of, like LTG Flynn, BG Bolduc, and Lt Gen McInerney.

What are the chances of a more mundane version of this, maybe even the intra-term relief of Gen Brown as CJCS?

A heightened, unscheduled pattern of high-level reliefs could disrupt our usual work significantly. SuperWIKI (talk) 02:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Seeing that this is the most number of black four-star officers the military has ever had at one time in history, and given Trump's history of extremism and other factors, it would not surprise me if he fires all of them to put a white four-star in their positions to "rectify" that. Neovu79 (talk) 03:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I actually would be surprised if he removed people just based on race, especially in combatant commands that are in less major theaters. EPMen (talk) 02:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

If such a thing were to happen, it will likely not be race-based on the surface. It's more likely that they will fall back to the concept of "the president needs appointees who will work well with him", a key consideration for the JCS chairman in particular, and non-military political appointees. This was never applied forcefully on the apolitical military four-star brass (though it is not unheard of, especially with term-limited service chiefs in the past), but the incoming president has no compunctions about defying established norms. SuperWIKI (talk) 05:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

CENTCOM speculation

Now that General Kurilla is under investigation (https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2024-11-01/kurilla-centcom-general-investigation-15700358.html), it might cause him to stay in his term longer than expected depending on how the long the investigation takes. He assumed command in April 2022. I will still speculate about who might succeed him.

-VADM Cooper would be only the second Navy admiral to command CENTCOM but during his time commanding Fifth Fleet, he spearheaded new unmanned innovations and the Navy had a major role in countering Houthi missile attacks.

-Lt. Gen. Grynkewich. There has never been an Air Force officer that commanded CENTCOM but given how much drone warfare occurs in the theater, I think we're overdue. I think Grynkewich is by far the most qualified in terms of the amount of experience he's had in the CENTCOM theater. However, Grynkewich is young enough (commissioned 1993) that he could conceivably hold a different 4-star role first (US Air Forces in Europe and Africa is a strong possibility) and still have another 4-star tour.

-GEN Poppas. If it were to go to another Army officer, I think Poppas is the most likely. I'd say Lt. Gen. Donahue is more likely for USSOCOM.

-I don't see any Marine Corps officers as obvious possibilities given that MARCENT has been downgraded from a three-star to a two-star command. The most likely would be LtGen Roger Turner since he seems straight of central casting for the incoming POTUS's liking. @KingEdinburgh@SuperWIKI @Neovu79 EPMen (talk) 02:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

CENCOM is not likely to go to the Navy or Air Force. Ground forces still make up much of the command. GEN Darryl A. Williams and LTG Patrick Frank would be top candidates. Rumor has it that VADM Frank M. Bradley is is being floated around for SOCOM. Neovu79 (talk) 02:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Williams is 63. Unless the new SecDef (maybe Mike Waltz) decides to extend him to 66, it's unlikely. Williams is also from central casting though – big frame, booming voice. SuperWIKI (talk) 03:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

You never know. I definitely think it could happen. And as for SOCOM, I'm 99.9% sure that it will be either LTG Donahue or VADM Bradley. Donahue was the last US soldier to leave Afghanistan while Bradley was one of the first to deploy after 9/11. I'll be making my full predictions for 2025 once the next (presumably final) batch of 3/4 star nominees for 2024 comes out.

In said batch, I wouldn't be surprised to see nominees for Deputy Commander, US European Command, Commanding General, US Army Special Operations Command and Commander, US Fleet Forces Command.

I honestly have no idea who to expect for EUCOM Deputy but given the lack of Navy representation at EUCOM HQ, I'd throw in RADM Spedero. For the other two, I think we won't get nominees till 2025. EPMen (talk) 05:36, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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