Talk:Matsuura Takeshirō

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Matsuura Takeshirō in 1885

• ... that explorer Matsuura Takeshirō (pictured) had a one-mat room? Source: [1]

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Roger Mynors

Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Self-nominated at 00:15, 31 July 2020 (UTC).

• This is just a comment but given that the meaning of the hook is rather vague and doesn't clearly indicate the significance of the room only being "one mat big" for readers unfamiliar with Japanese measurements, either additional context could be added, a image of the room be included (if one can be found), or perhaps as alternatives, perhaps hooks about his career could also be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Matsuura Takeshirō (pictured) explored and mapped Ezochi (including Karafuto and the Chishima Islands) before helping name Hokkaidō? Source: see images

NB ALT hook possibly more sensitive due to the disputed territories, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 06:07, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Substantial article, on fine sources, Japanese sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, and if not taken the hook should get some detail about timing. For me, you could add to the original that he wished the room to be cremated with him, - interest-raising enough. ... Or say that he climbed a mountain three times at the end of his 70s? ALT1 has too many unfamiliar names before getting to the key, and would be better shorter, imho. I'd approve it if you wish, though. - I am not sure about "Godparent" vs. "Godfather", btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

The character used is the same as that in Oyakodon or "mother and child on rice" (not sure which is more objectionable); agreed, though an alt on calligraphy teachers and girls being possessed by foxes might also work.. how about, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 12:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that explorer Matsuura Takeshirō (pictured) had a one-mat room in which he wished to be cremated?

ALT2 sounds good. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

• Full review needed now that hook has been set. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

• What is wrong with Gerda's suggestion? It's certainly hookier than ALT2.
• ALT3: ... that explorer Matsuura Takeshirō (pictured) wanted his one-mat room to be cremated along with him? Yoninah (talk) 17:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

ALT3 sounds good to me - thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you. ALT3 verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Gerda Arendt. ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 19 August 2020 (UTC)