Talk:Krasnodar Krai

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History section poorly written

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The latter half of the History section seems very poorly written, and I could try to clean up some of it but some sentences like: "Before the October Revolution of 1917, most of the territory of modern Kuban-Krasnodar territory occupied area, formed in 1860 from the Black Sea Cossack Army, the western part of the Caucasus Line Cossack troops" I'm not quite sure what it's trying to say at all, and I don't know enough about the area to figure it out. --Jessietail (talk) 03:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

It's best to leave it until editors who know the subject clean it up. The only way to do so is to work through the edit history and see when any given section and content was added (plus any changes made to it by other users). I suspect that most of the content has been taken from other language Wikipedias, clumsily translated, but not referenced (if there were non-English references to back up the content in the original article/s in the first place). I'll keep it on my radar to pick through some time soon. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:53, 17 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
I looked through the history and it's always been the same as it is now. I looked closer and the entire section was apparently added as it is today all at once in October 2013. I checked the Russian pages for it from around that time, and sure enough many of the sentences from them auto-translate into almost exactly the same semi-nonsense sentences here. I guess someone who can translate Russian more accurately needs to rewrite that section, probably translating and citing the sources used on those pages or something. --Jessietail (talk) 04:13, 18 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Jessietail: Thanks for looking into it (and pinpointing the diff for me)! I'll check the old version against this one, try to find the refs, and translate it appropriately when I find a moment. I'll also check against the the current Russian Wikipedia article. There are plenty of reliable sources listed for that article, so I should be able to improve this article from there. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)Reply