Talk:That's When/GA1

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Nominator: Gained (talk · contribs) 06:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Medxvo (talk · contribs) 13:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

• "She previously performed as an opening act at his Escape Together World Tour (2009)" → "Swift previously performed as an opening act at Urban's Escape Together World Tour (2009)"
• "Escape Together World Tour (2009)" → I think the information that the tour was in 2009 requires a reference, since the existing reference doesn't mention that year at all (You can use this source, which is already available in the article)
• "On April 4, 2021, "That's When" was confirmed to be one of the "From the Vault" tracks after Swift teased it in a clip containing the title in scrambled anagram the day before" → I'm pretty sure Swift's announcement was posted in the morning (Eastern Time) of April 3, 2021. This source clarifies the dates more than the existing source (which doesn't state any dates). This source can also be used instead of Bustle, due to Bustle's reliability issues
• "the song was included in the streaming compilation..." → "That's When" was included in the streaming compilation..."
• "which features the five other "From the Vault" tracks from the album" → "which features the album's six "From the Vault" tracks"
• Nashville can be linked in the "composition and lyrics" section
• "Joseph Hudak of Rolling Stone called it..." → "Joseph Hudak of Rolling Stone called "That's When"..."
• "Jonathan Bernstein from Rolling Stone opined that the song..." → "Jonathan Bernstein from Rolling Stone opined that "That's When"..."
• "Erin Browne from Vulture commended how "twangy and country" Antonoff was, which he thought those aspects made the song faithful to the music..." → "Erin Browne from Vulture commended how Antonoff kept the song "twangy and country", which he thought those aspects made "That's When" faithful to the music..."
• "Jackson Langford of MTV ranked the song..." → "Jackson Langford of MTV ranked "That's When"..."
• You can link "twangy and country", and remove the link from "Swift's early southern twang"
• "The Guardian's writer Kitty Empire considered "That's When"..." → "The Observer's writer Kitty Empire considered the song..." (Empire writes for The Observer not The Guardian, that's also how it's noted on Metacritic)
• "which he believed that it "perfectly" utilized..." → "in which he believed that it was "perfectly" utilized..." or any other wording
• "Gajjar considered it an underrated "From the Vault" track" → I don't see this in the source, is this here by mistake?
• "Rolling Stone's writer Rob Sheffield" → Rolling Stone is overlinked
• "that the theme of forgiving someone..." → "the song's theme of forgiving someone..."
• "Jake Viswanath of Bustle believed that the song..." → "Jake Viswanath of Bustle believed that "That's When"..."
• Ref 31 and 47 have rankings of Swift's entire catalog; the song's placement on them can be added to the "critical reception" section (Ref 47 needs to be archived to the newest available date, though)
• Ref 27; date (year) error
• Ref 25; subscription access
• Ref 29, 38, 42, and 47; limited access

Everything else looks fine! @Gained:  On hold until all of the issues are fixed or discussed; glad to pass once they are done. Medxvo (talk) 13:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Medxvo! Thank you for choosing this to review, and I believe I have addressed all of your points. Regarding the "which features the five other "From the Vault" tracks from the album" part, I changed it to "which is comprised of the album's "From the Vault" tracks due to the change you suggested being a little confusing at first, so I hope that's not harming anything. Gained (talk) 14:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gained: Amazing work! I don't mind this wording at all, I was going to suggest it at first but I thought you might want to add the number of tracks. A few concerns that I would like to discuss:

• Regarding the date "April 4, 2021", I think it should be "April 3, 2021", as Today's source states that the track listing was revealed on Saturday (which should be April 3), and also states that the reveal was 24 hours after the anagram video (which they clearly stated that it was April 2). Any thoughts?
• "Gajjar considered it an underrated "From the Vault" track" → I still don't see this in the source
• "Rolling Stone's Rob Sheffield and Vulture's Nate Jones" → Roling Stone and Vulture are overlinked

Medxvo (talk) 15:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Medxvo: Thank you for the compliment! I would be addressing your concerns tommorow for it's my bedtime today. Gained (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Take your time! Hope you have a restful night :) Medxvo (talk) 15:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, @Medxvo! I have addressed your concerns. About Gajjar, I swear I recall a memory of seeing the song in the given article and adding it to the prose, but nonetheless I removed it; I also checked the source's older archives but it was not there. Gained (talk) 04:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, you're right about the date, it should be April 3. Gained (talk) 05:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Gained: I also checked older revisions of the source's archives before saying anything, but I also couldn’t find anything. Anyways, the article looks amazing to me at the moment; I am going ✓ Pass this now. Congratulations! Medxvo (talk) 08:03, 9 October 2024 (UTC)