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Linnaean Herbarium

I just finished reading the lead, and I must say, you have done well! I look forward to reading the entire article. It's hard to believe we didn't have one already! – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 01:34, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I was also surprised that we didn't have an article on this. I general, I think it would benefit the encyclopedia to have more articles on herbaria. Esculenta (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I agree! – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 04:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

This discussion has led me to add another side project to my already massive to-do list, thanks :) ... ChatGPT has assured me that these are the ten most notable herbaria with sufficient existing literature to create substantial articles. Esculenta (talk) 05:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh my. Umm, you're welcome?

Some of these might be embedded within the articles of their parent institutions.

These may help (or hurt): List of herbaria, List of herbaria in Europe, List of herbaria in Oceania, List of herbaria in North America, and List of herbaria in Turkey.

I'd like to see an article on TORCH – The Texas Oklahoma Regional Consortium of Herbaria. It has what I have found to be a very useful data portal. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 06:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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RE: Drepanolejeunea senticosa collection date

Hi there! Excellent work on Drepanolejeunea senticosa, I hope you don't mind the formatting changes I've made. It's great to see another person interested in liverworts! I just wanted to reach out to discuss the collection date for the D. senticosa type specimen - you had it listed in the article as 1860, however, on reading Bischler's description I could find no mention of when the type was collected (she lists it as s.d., "without date"). I've removed it for now, but if you can remember where you found 1860 mentioned please feel free to put it back. Thanks for your hard work, looking forward to reading the other articles you've expanded :) Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 06:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I found the source I got that date from and added it back. I'm mostly a lichen person, but have recently decided I should learn more about the other cryptogams that are lurking when I'm looking for lichens. I'll be switching over to peat mosses for the next batch of plant stub expansions. Esculenta (talk) 06:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		For all your excellent bryophyte work! I especially love what you've done with Trichocolea tomentella - such a common and widespread species certainly deserves a detailed article and you did a fantastic job expanding it. Reviewing your articles for WP:PLANTSSTS has been a lot of fun :) Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk

Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 02:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Given there are relatively few liverwort articles on Wikipedia compared to the overall 60,000+ plant stubs, I think this STS drive will have a particularly positive impact on this corner of Plantae. I think you'll also enjoy seeing the peat moss articles when you get to them - it's remarkable how stubby they were before, especially given the extensive literature available on them. Esculenta (talk) 03:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm very much looking forward to those! I'm not particularly familiar with Sphagnum (I've only encountered it in the wild once and never managed to key it out to species) so I'm excited to learn :) Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 03:48, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Antarctolichenia

Howdy Esculenta. Wondering about Antarctolichenia. It doesn't appear to be a true lichen, so I'm wondering about its inclusion in the lichen genera category. Wouldn't it be better to have it under the WP:LICHEN purview, but not in the lichen genera category? MeegsC (talk) 11:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Meegs, long time ... you are correct about Antarctolichenia, and I've fixed my hasty miscategorisation. Esculenta (talk) 16:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Looking for advice on going overboard

Hi again, Esculenta. I know your expertise lies in lichen etc. and that you just did me a big favor by being so patient with your GA review. However, I'm hoping to lean on your general expertise with taxonomic articles by asking a question about improving O. catharus. It was still incomplete after the review (including things you noted), and it's conspicuously missing information about the digestive system. The digestive system doesn't stand out much (if at all) from other decapods, and I was wondering if it's seen as redundant to include this sort of thing (taken as an extreme example, imagine writing an article about a species of crab and describing how because they're animals, they consume organic matter, have muscles, have bilateral symmetry as part of Bilateria, etc.). The digestive system is a crucial part of the internal anatomy, and a general reader (myself included) may not be familiar, but I'm afraid anything I say there could be copied almost verbatim to decapod anatomy. There is some (not a lot) of mention of the foregut in literature, but any paragraph only talking about the foregut seems itself incomplete. Meanwhile, any paragraph also talking about the midgut and hindgut would rely heavily on general decapod literature. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 01:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

For articles about individual species, I generally recommend including anatomical information when either:

• The species shows variations or unique features compared to related taxa
• The feature is directly relevant to understanding other aspects of the species (behavior, ecology, etc.)
• The info comes from specific studies of that species, even if the findings align with general patterns

In the case of O. catharus's digestive system, I would suggest:

• Including foregut details from literature specific to this species
• Mentioning any digestive adaptations relevant to its diet/feeding behavior
• Briefly noting general decapod digestive anatomy only where needed for context
• Avoiding lengthy descriptions of standard decapod features

The goal is to focus on what makes this species interesting or distinctive while providing enough context for general readers to understand it. You've done this well in other sections – for example, how you've handled the circulatory system by focusing on specific features like ventilatory flow reversal and thermal responses.

If the digestive system is truly standard for decapods and lacks species-specific studies, it's perfectly reasonable to omit it or cover it very briefly. The article is already comprehensive in its coverage of the species' biology. Esculenta (talk) 01:42, 29 November 2024 (UTC)