MurrayGreshler

Welcome!

Hello, MurrayGreshler, and Welcome to Wikipedia!   

Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy the encyclopedia and want to stay. As a first step, you may wish to read the Introduction.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask at the Teahouse.

---

Here are some more resources to help you as you explore and contribute to the world's largest encyclopedia...

Finding your way around:

• Table of contents / Department directory

• The Wikipedia Adventure (a tutorial orienting you with Wikipedia)
• The Signpost, our newspaper

Need help?

• Questions – a guide on where to ask questions
• Cheatsheet – quick reference on Wikipedia's mark-up codes
• Wikipedia's 5 pillars – an overview of Wikipedia's foundations

• Article wizard – a Wizard to help you create articles
• The simplified ruleset – a summary of Wikipedia's most important rules
• Guide to Wikipedia – a thorough step-by-step guide to Wikipedia

How you can help:

• Contributing to Wikipedia – a guide on how you can help

• Community portal – Wikipedia's hub of activity

Additional tips...

• Please sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). This will automatically insert your "signature" (your username and a date stamp). The button, on the tool bar above Wikipedia's text editing window, also does this.
• If you would like to play around with your new Wiki skills without changing the mainspace, the Sandbox is for you.

MurrayGreshler, good luck, and have fun. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:04, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

BTW

Love the handle. Murray the cop. Toddst1 (talk) 03:39, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. MurrayGreshler (talk) 01:00, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Hello, I'm InvadingInvader. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Ethel Irving, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. InvadingInvader (talk) 01:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Barbra Fuller, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. FMSky (talk) 12:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Please stop

At Issaquena County, Mississippi, your only edit was to remove a redlink. I looked at some of your other edits and you appear to be roaming from article to article, adding "citation needed" tags. Please find a more useful way to edit. Perhaps you could find sources for the unsourced content instead? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

I was just about to reach out about the same thing. Please be more mindful of how you add these tags to the articles—a general notice at the top of the page is fine, but I've seen you add a general page notice, a section notice and then multiple "citation needed" tags to the same article. Journalist . talk 20:39, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok, understood. Sorry. MurrayGreshler (talk) 00:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Anarchism

Hi MurrayGreshler,

I saw your work on articles related to anarchism and wanted to say hello, as I work in the topic area too. If you haven't already, you might want to watch our noticeboard for Wikipedia's coverage of anarchism, which is a great place to ask questions, collaborate, discuss style/structure precedent, and stay informed about content related to anarchism. Take a look for yourself!

And if you're looking for other juicy places to edit, consider expanding a stub, adopting a cleanup category, or participating in one of our current formal discussions.

Feel free to say hi on my talk page and let me know if these links were helpful (or at least interesting). Hope to see you around. czar 03:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Where Law Ends Book Review

Dcw2003 (talk) Murray, Thanks for your grammatical edits on my book review Where Law Ends. It was cited for being too biased, and I have tried to add more references to the book itself, and fewer to outside sources. I deleted some of the opinions offered by external references that are critical of William Barr's decision to not recommend indicting Trump for obstruction, but I felt the outside sources strongly verified Weissmann's central tenant that the obstruction charge should have or could have been a source of an indictment. Weismann maintains that view even today, and continues to make that point on MSNBC as recently as this month. I've continued to maintain that other views exist as to the nature of obstruction, particularly those of former Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz who strongly notes that Presidential pardoning power is absolute and that intent cannot be used to levy a charge of obstruction.

Ethnicelebs.com as a reference

Hi MurrayGreshler. I noticed that you used ethnicelebs.com as a reference for biographical information in Thora Birch. Please note that the general consensus as expressed at WP:RSN is that it does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. I've gone ahead and removed it. If you disagree, let's discuss it. You may want to check WP:RSP and WP:RSN to help determine if a source is reliable. Thanks.--Hipal (talk) 01:56, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

September 2022

Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊|𝕽𝕴𝕻 🇬🇧|☎️|📄 20:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

I know. I apologize. I am editing on my phone and sometimes I submit prematurely. Other times, they're trivial edits hard to define. But I know the importance of edit summaries.

Thanks. MurrayGreshler (talk) 00:37, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Inishglora moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Inishglora, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline or the notability guideline for geographic features and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

William Haughey, Lord Haughey

The link to William Haughey, Lord Haughey should be William Haughey, Baron Haughey. 86.191.232.221 (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok MurrayGreshler (talk) 15:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, if he was a Senator of the College of Justice he is Lord only. 86.191.232.221 (talk) 18:01, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	MurrayGreshler, For your excellent work in updating and copyediting many of the Red Orchestra biographies. Many of them hadn't been copyedited before and it was great to see them coming into shape. Truly excellent work!! scope_creepTalk 09:36, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Mano De Futbol

The Street Football (American) has an official name Mano De Futbol Grant 667 (talk) 03:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

The 5-on-5 variation I mean Grant 667 (talk) 03:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Mount Saint Agnes College

Thanks for your work on that page! DMacks (talk) 19:26, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

page numbers

Hi, Where did you get the idea that "pg" is the correct abbreviation of a page number? It is highly unusual both on Wikipedia and in external sources. It is not what the most common citation templates, like Template:cite, produce and it is not what appears in any of the examples at WP:Citing sources or Help:References and page numbers. Zero^talk 01:18, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Since you didn't reply I'm undoing those changes that I notice. Zero^talk

Sorry. Nothing to say. I guess I have idiosyncrasies like most people. Is it really important? MurrayGreshler (talk) 03:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Not a big deal. Personally I'd like to require a consistent citation style across all articles, compulsory for all new articles. It would make wikipedia look less amateur. Zero^talk 06:27, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Similar to the above comment, there really is no reason to change an article's established citation style, especially a featured article like Margaret Fuller. Perhaps bring it to the article's talk page before making changes en masse based on your preferences? See WP:WHENINROME. --Midnightdreary (talk) 19:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

The text of the article clearly states there is no evidence she and Ossoli legally married. MurrayGreshler (talk) 21:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how this relates to adding "p." to the citations so I don't know how to respond. --Midnightdreary (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Midnightdreary -- sorry, I misunderstood the nature of your complaint. MurrayGreshler (talk) 22:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

And I'm sorry my communication came across as a "complaint" rather than an attempt from an experienced editor to provide support and advice to a newer one. Assume good faith. --Midnightdreary (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Midnightdreary Apologies. "Complaint" was the wrong word. Thanks for your reaching out in good faith. MurrayGreshler (talk) 23:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Need for citations in lead

Hi MurrayGeshler. I noticed you've been tagging a few article leads with Template:more sources needed. Are you familiar with WP:LEADCITE? Most content in the lead doesn't require a citation, and if there is an exception (contentious BLP info, direct quotes, etc.), it's probably better to tag the exceptions with a citation needed. I'm inclined to detag at least some of the articles you tagged, but I wanted to talk it over a bit first. Thanks, Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:29, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks MurrayGreshler (talk) 17:30, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome! Would you be willing to self-revert your tags? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:55, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

How many are we talking about? MurrayGreshler (talk) 17:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Just to clarify, when I put the tag at the top of the article, it reflect a lack of sources in the WHOLE article. Otherwise, I tag by section. Just want to clarify because I know that text in the article lead itself doesn't require sourcing. MurrayGreshler (talk) 18:02, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

WP:V

Hi. If you add a fact to a Wikipedia article, please cite your source. See WP:V for more information. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:56, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ssilvers -- I usually do so. Any particular example you'd like to bring to my attention? MurrayGreshler (talk) 19:03, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Brett Helquist birth year

Hi, I noticed that you changed Brett Helquist's birth year from 1966 to 1965. ISFDB says 1966, as do some of his authority files. What was your source for changing it to 1965? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:16, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

@Rachel Helps (BYU) -- This link says November 1965. Yours, MurrayGreshler (talk) 19:01, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 12 December 2022. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2022 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:56, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Date ranges

In this edit, you changed some date ranges from the style 'from A to B' to 'from A-B'. The latter is incorrect: see the Manual of Style - "Use an en dash, or a word such as from or between, but not both: from 1881 to 1886 (not from 1881–1886); between June 1 and July 3 (not between June 1 – July 3)". EddieHugh (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I will remember. MurrayGreshler (talk) 18:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

December 2022

Thanks for contributing to the article Lord Algernon Gordon-Lennox. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that contributions must be verifiable through reliable sources, preferably using inline citations. Please help by adding more sources to the article you edited, and/or by clarifying how the sources already given support the claims (see here for how to do inline referencing). If you need further help, you can look at Help:Menu/Editing Wikipedia, or ask at the Teahouse, or just ask me. Thank you. I have added the reference for you. Dormskirk (talk) 21:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Terence Young (director), you may be blocked from editing. Unsourced change of Irish to "Anglo-Irish" FMSky (talk) 12:42, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for December 2

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Michael Router, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Diocese of Kilmore.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:02, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello MurrayGreshler! Your additions to Thomas Scrope, 10th Baron Scrope of Bolton have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

• You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
• Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
• We have strict guidelines on the usage of copyrighted images. Fair use images must meet all ten of the non-free content criteria in order to be used in articles, or they will be deleted. To be used on Wikipedia, all other images must be made available under a free and open copyright license that allows commercial and derivative reuse.
• If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, to the world, into either the public domain (PD) or under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
• Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps described at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. See also Help:Translation#License requirements.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 15:10, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Civility

Hi MurrayGreshler, even when dealing with vandals, please do not refer to other humans as "jerk"s (you had been warned for this at WP:ANI) or "creature"s in a demeaning way (you had done so after the warning). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:58, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

I saw your comment regarding my use of the word "creature" here. Understood. I only have this problem when dealing with vandals who are harassing me but I will cut out the commentary. Thanks. MurrayGreshler (talk) 19:06, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

No worries, and please let me know if the vandal returns. I'll re-block as soon as I see the message on my talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:01, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

failed ping

Hi. I hope you are doing well. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prem Dhiraal, you forgot to sign when you tried to @Liz:. Pings do not go through without signs. Also, if this is about striking Sam321's comment, then it can't be done. They were blocked after they posted the comment. We generally strike comments of the users who are evading their block multiple accounts. —usernamekiran (talk) 11:34, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. MurrayGreshler (talk) 11:40, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

don't mention it. Keep up the good work. See you around :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 12:49, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Gone Fishing

Thanks 😊 to all who had my back. I have learned something about my unfortunate lapse into incivility. You never know whom you might bump into by happenstance. I need a break.

Anyway, for now,

SEMI-RETIRED

BLOODY BUT UNBOWED!

This user is no longer very active on Wikipedia.

MurrayGreshler (talk) 04:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I returned briefly but I think semi-retired is still accurate. Thanks for the pie. If I ever get tired of fishing, I'll let y'all know. MurrayGreshler (talk) 22:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Enjoy your wikibreak! Don't let the trolls get to you! Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 05:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Why do you continue to add unsourced content?

on Anna Carteret, unsourced addition of birth name "Annabelle S. Wilkinson". (before you say "i'm following you" again, i've had this page on my watchlist since making an edit there in march) --FMSky (talk) 07:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

thanks for edits

Hi MurrayGreshler, thanks for the edits on a bunch of the Yiddish singer articles I created. For many of them you put edit summaries but others you didn't, just make sure to be a bit more consistent about that so people don't have to track changes to figure out what was changed. About some of the changes you made, it all seems OK to me at a glance and I won't reverse any of it, just on the matter of birth dates or other biographical details, the more I kept writing those kinds of articles the more I started leaving it imprecise because so many of the sources contradict one another. So to say a given person was definitely born on one day because it shows up in a government document from while they were alive, is unfortunately contradicted often by other documents they once again submitted in a different year, or in biographies written by people who knew them. Oh well! Dan Carkner (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok. I am editing by phone so sometimes I hit publish too quickly before I have a chance to enter an edit summary. I agree regarding uncertain dates/years of birth and death but I often will add categories indicating unknown or uncertain years/dates of birth and death. MurrayGreshler (talk) 18:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Dictionary of National Biography

I a puzzled by this edit, in which you label a reference to the Dictionary of National Biography "circular" and "non-RS". It is neither circular nor unreliable. DuncanHill (talk) 00:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

The format is -- wikisource url. MurrayGreshler (talk) 00:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

That does not make it an unreliable source. DuncanHill (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Makes it a circular reflink, based on wikisource. Needs to be properly formatted. Also borderline WP:USERGENERATED. MurrayGreshler (talk) 00:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

It isn't usergenerated, and the point of Wikisource is to provide material that can be used in citations. Perhaps you should read Wikipedia:Wikisource. DuncanHill (talk) 00:40, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

December 2022

Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.

---

Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you should review the guide to appealing blocks, and then appeal your block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}}. Note that anything you post in your unblock request will be public, so you may alternatively use the Unblock Ticket Request System to submit an appeal if it contains information that must be private.

---

Administrators: Checkusers have access to confidential system logs not accessible by the public or by administrators due to the Wikimedia Foundation's privacy policy. You must not loosen or remove this block, or issue an IP block exemption, without consulting with a checkuser or the Arbitration Committee. Administrators who undo checkuser blocks without permission from a checkuser or the Arbitration Committee may be summarily desysopped.

firefly ( t · c ) 20:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Inishglora

Hello, MurrayGreshler. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Inishglora, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Inishglora

Hello, MurrayGreshler. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Inishglora".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:17, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

William Haughey, Lord Haughey

Hi could you change William Haughey, Lord Haughey to William Haughey, Baron Haughey please as no life peer should have this link. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:56, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Lawrence Laurent (activist) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Lawrence Laurent (activist) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lawrence Laurent (activist) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Bexaendos (talk) 17:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)