Viator slovenicus
Pozdravljen še tukaj. LP --Tone 08:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Gimnazija ni grammar school
editSpremenil sem tekst tako, da bo povezava usmerila v Šentvid Grammar School, v tekstu se bo pa bralo Šentvid High School. Tako bo članek dosledno v ameriškem standardnem jeziku, ne pa v različnih angleščinah. Torej volk je sit in koza cela. --Marek4 (talk) 22:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
OK, moja žena pravi, da je grammar school v britanski angleščini nekaj podobnega kot gimnazija. V ameriški rabi pa je g. s. izključno o. š. in ker sem rojen govorec amerikanščine, vrinek g. s. v sicer ameriško napisanem sestavku (tj. članku o Marku Snoj) se mi zdi vsaj stilistično okoren. --Marek4 (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Zdravo, Viator! Opazil sem, da ste v članku Marko Snoj spremenili Gymnasium v Grammar School. V angleščini grammar school pomeni osnovna šola. Primerov tega neustreznega prevoda kar mrgoli v angleški WP. Predlagam nam. grammar school primernejši prevod high school, tj. šola med osnovno šolo in fakulteto. Gimnazija pač ne obstaja v angl. --Marek4 (talk) 21:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Pozdravljeni! Okoli izraza grammar school in gymnasium bi rad povedal, da ne glede na to, da grammar school v ZDA in VB pomeni različne stvari, gymnasium pa prav tako, bi vseeno rad videl, da pustite članke z naslovom Gymnasium take kot so. Če greste gledat hrvaške šole, so prav tako gymnasium. To je standardni izraz, ki se za tovrstne šole uporablja v ameriški angleščini in v angleščini, ki se uporablja v srednjeevropskih časopisih, denimo v Spieglu. Zato prosim, da v bodoče pustite članke z naslovom gymnasium s točno takim imenom. HVala!
Gradisca d'Isonzo
editPlease see explanation of the city name origin - Gradisca d'Isonzo. As I know gradilišče (not gradišče) would be a building site in Slovenian, while gradišče should be a "small town", in Croatian it is gradić. Am I wrong or... Zenanarh (talk) 15:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, and happy New Year too. Zenanarh (talk) 22:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Rožman, Urbančič...
editReally? NPOV tags are normally added by people who just don't like what they are reading, but can't come up with any sources to 'correct' it. Otherwise, other material would be added to 'balance' the alleged NPOV article. So let's go through each article line by line, and you can point out what is POV rather than fact. Every statement is referenced, so you'll need counter sources. Pa znam slovensko... ni problema. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 23:29, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Reply
editI make no allegation that you are biased. I know that you are not, and everything goes forward under WP:AGF.
However, you cannot throw tags such as {{POV|date=March 2008}} without providing evidence. It is so important to point this out... just because Wiki is the free, democratic encyclopedia, doesn't mean that you can throw whatever you like into any article. So explain and justify what you want to say please...
Come forward with sources, as I have done, and help make the articles better. Until then, I'll take your tags off, not because they are in bad faith, ut because they have no references. They are just your opinion. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Conflict
editViaticus, please, I beg you, be careful. I have taken enormous care on what are contentious issues in Slovenia to source everything. If you have additional information, please bring it to the table. I welcome it. I will happily incorporate it into the articles, if it is well sourced etc. But your edits and talk page contributions this evening indicate a WP:POV as you added controversial tags to the articles without first discussing it at the talk page, or presenting alternative ideas. What exactly do you want? Just to rubbish the article?
And Wikipedia is not a wedding: WP:NPOV tags cannot be thrown around like confetti because somebody feels like it. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 00:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Photos
editWhy don't you go through the links in Gregorij Rožman? Why don't you look at Rosener's execution notices, and then the photos of Rožman happily shaking hands with him two years later? I don't know what more proof you need. Uran has sucked you in. I'm disappointed in you. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 01:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Rosener
editThe links are to f+++ckng scans of the execution notices. Photos, if you like. You are taking me down a path to war, and I don't want to go there. Revert your changes, or I'll go to Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- What do you want? I've said that constructive edits are welcome. But so far you've indicated that you want to make Wikipedia a love up to Erwin Rosener. --AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 01:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Vipava
editViator, you're from the Vipava Valley, right? AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 21:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fine. All your suggestions about additional sources etc sound good, and I'll look forward to reading the book you recommend. lp, AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 10:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
editThanks for translating those building names in the Vladimir Šubic article. My "translator" was unable to do it for me. :) vıdıoman (talk • contribs) 00:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- I wrote Nebotičnik so I figured I'd might as well throw in Šubic as well. :P vıdıoman (talk • contribs) 01:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Prekmursko narečje
editZdravo! Jaz živim v Porbaju na Verici-Ritkarovci. Imam edan nauvi članak Wends dialect. Dosta se nej mogo pisati. Ka misliš, tau dobro? Doncsecz
Mentoring, guidance, coaching
editViator, I've noticed that of your edits of substance (rather than the ones where you try, sometimes unsuccessfully, to create or correct wikilinks) often things don't go especially well. A fair number of Homer Simpson D'oh! moments in there, buddy. You don't make that many actual additions - it's mostly tweaking - but errors of fact or of spelling, for example, seem to be rather too frequent for comfort. So, in the spirit of Wikicollaboration, I've come here to say that I'd be happy to offer you mentoring. I could follow you, correcting your spelling, for example, or give you advice about Wiki policies before you make embarrassingly incorrect statements. What do you think? I don't have a huge amount of free time at the moment, but I'm sure it'd be helpful in the future if I shadowed you for a while until you got up to speed on Wiki policies and so on. Have a think about it over the weekend, and then we'll see next week. I'm sure that with my advice and guidance you could become a truly helpful Wiki editor. All the best. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
About the article Slavic Settlements in the eastern alps
editHi! What do you think about what Jalen wrote here, and about my commentary in the discussion of he article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Slavic_settlement_of_Eastern_Alps --Marcos G. Tusar (talk) 17:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Slavic settlement in the Eastern Alps
editŽivjo,
si lahko prosim pogledaš tole poglavje [1] in ga morda dopolniš, če je potrebno. LP --Jalen (talk) 21:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Slovenian help!
editHi buddy, just wondering if you could help me with a Slovenian translation: would the "Federation of Jewish Communities of Yugoslavia" (Serbian: Савез Јеврејских општина Југославије, Savez Jevrejskih Opština Jugoslavije) have been Zveze Jugoslovanskih Judovskih Skupnosti in Slovenian? Thanks in advance, AWN2 (talk) 03:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you! AWN2 (talk) 23:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Tags
editViator, Wiki is not a playground. Your tags have been removed. Please be aware that your opinions may be interesting, but have no relevance in this encyclopedia. Wiki policy clearly states that tags cannot be thrown in. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 23:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, Viator, I'll try to explain this clearly. Perhaps if I type slowly it might help you. You wrote "I believe the articles are not neutral (...) that's why I have tagged them". Viator, as I've explained to you before, your beliefs are irrelevant here at Wikipedia. So are mine. What is important here is the verifiability of statements and assertions. Then you wrote "I have explained my arguments very clearly, extensively and with a great degree of tollerance". The whole point is that you can't leave tags there forever with no intention to improve an article. You refuse to contribute constructively. You have on your user page "I am a young historian", you frequently go on about Boris Mlakar and others while clearly having not the first idea what you are talking about. You've never read anything by Mlakar. That's obvious. See this for example as your most embarrassing mistake [2] And that is why you do not do any positive editing in this area: you simply don't know enough. I have tried repeatedly to compromise, to listen, to understand, I have asked you repeatedly to bring forward your proposed alternative wordings for the three articles but had nothing back from you. Not a single word. And that's why you are being spoken to like this: you've made no attempt to be constructive in any way at any time. You say "Please restrain from vandalist behaviour, otherwise I will have to report you". Go right ahead, Viator. You sound just like my dear friend User:Cherso. Go ahead. Report me. For what? "And I will not tollerate your disrespectful speech: you have no right to tell me to shut up". Respect has to be earned, Viator. And if I choose to tell you to shut up, I will do so. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Again, compromise
editViator, here I am again. I come in peace. I know you feel uncomfortable, perhaps embarrassed, about our conversations as so far you have had nothing positive to contribute to any of our articles. Not a single word, despite all the help I've offered. And I know that you have not enjoyed the way I have addressed you sometimes. I'm sorry about that, but I will point out here that I was extremely f++king angry that I tried to edit the intro to the Rožman article to meet your concerns but had no feedback from you. None. Not a f++king word of encouragement.
So that we can perhaps go forward, let me help you. I'm not bothered at all when someone is "uncivil" toward me though I get really upset when people misrepresent sources, distort the facts, and so on. To be honest I think the "he called me a bad name" complaints that we see so often are immature; one expects that on a playground and not in a project to build an encyclopedia. What Wikipedia counts as "civility" often looks more like unctuous ingratiation, and what Wikipedia counts as "incivility" often looks more like forthright commentary.
However, I am here to say to you again that we can move these articles forward together (if you want to) and that being on bad terms will help nobody. This Wikipedia is a collaborative project that cannot succeed if drive-by taggings prevail. I'll say to you again: Tell me what you don't like and we'll work out a solution. And I don't mean "I don't like that section". I mean precisely what words you think are unfair. Tell me sentences that you don't like. So, please bring your suggestions forward. We can discuss them, and, I'm sure, agree what should be a good article in each case.
If you don't want to edit these articles then just tell me. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 02:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello Slovenian friend
editHello there! I hope you like what I have been doing with your capital. Perhaps this could be done to many of your cities. Its time SLovenia was put on the map! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks it looks a beautiful place -I love all the architecture of the central and eastern Europe anyway. I had seen pictures of SLovenia in the snow on postage stamps and thought WOW! I had no idea it was so picturesque!! I've put my name down at Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Slovenia as the first member -you joining would be a crucial part of it as you live in the country. Hopefully there will eventually be more people like yourself who are Slovenian and use English wikipedia and want to improve the articles. SLovenia at present is sub standard -but this can be changed!! If you have no objection I would like to copy the missing articles on your user page to the project page cool? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Welcome friend -nice to meet you! I look forward to seeing you around. I see you are at Uni in Budapest -I;ve done a lot of work on Category:Hungarian sculptors too and the national gallery etc in the city. Hungary looks lovely too! Some day I must give thes eplaces a visit ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
What I will gradually be aiming to do is to add a normal infobox and locator to all places like Begunje. I can't believe how strong the colour is of thes eplaces!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi I;ve created the below template for Celje. Could you help translate the red links for the places into english and help expand or add them. I;ve started a few stubs but can't speak the language unfortunately although I have learnt a few words such as grad and dom etc. Some fo the districts I;ve started have pages on SLovenian wiki ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Pozdravljen, Viator. Kot poštenega in nepristranskega človeka bi te prosil, da podaš svoje mnenje tukaj, kakršno koli že je. Vnaprej hvala. --Eleassar my talk 17:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Lists of slovenians
editHI I have created List of Slovenian architects. I aim to created a full list using the recently created Template:Lists of Slovenians by occupation. Could you translate the links into english. e.g List of Slovenian admirals, List of Slovenian poets etc etc ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree there are probably some lesser notable bios in there, but the best way to start them is to copy the lists from SLovenian wiki and then if you feel appropriate we can filter out the lesser notable ones after. I'll try to stub a few, the problem is that all info is in SLovene and I can only make out the birth dates and field of study and perhaps university like Josip Križan I just started which a small stub is likely to attract the deletionist brigade. However I would feel very encouraged to start article if I can be assured that several editors can expand later ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
If you could translate the links for Template:Lists of Slovenians this would be a great start for Slovene biography on wikipedia ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
What I'll do is tag the new stubs I create with Template:Expand Slovenia which puts new stubs in Category:Slovenian articles needing translation so this way the project has a log of recently created articles which may require a bit of expansion to become acceptable. They don['t have to be expanded much but at least a little bit of knowledge added to them. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes I fully agree, it was intended as a tool, a platform to start the articles on but its probably best if they are moved to the project workspace e.g WikiProject Europe/Slovenia/Missing articles/Architects etc. If I start an article I'll be sure to see if it is potentially a good article and notable enough but you may need to decide this. I gather some editors on SLovenian wikipedia have got a bit over ambitious with their fellow countrymen ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Wow I'm amazed. Really most weren't notable?? I wonder why the editors on slovene wikipedia thought of generating such a list then ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Yup I fully agree with you, although google isn't always the best tool there is a great deal of uneveness. If their are no objections I'll stub those architects now with the tag. I'll keep you posted about any new lists so you can filter them ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Congratualtions on Jože Javoršek very impressive -I've added an image to cap it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Cities, towns and villages in Slovenia
editHi I've had a chance to look at the settlements in Slovenia today and the vast majority are a shambles and have been subject of a tagging plastering session because they are unreferenced and have multiple issues. Can we make it a project priority to clean up these pages and expand to an acceptable level, particularly the municipalities of Slovenia -thankyou ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Could you add the english translation landmarks to
As you can see I've been pretty busy
Thanks for your contributions. Could you please add footnotes for the contents you've contributed (I'm planning to nominate it at the Did You Know project)? Thanks a lot. --Eleassar my talk 11:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- This source says that "in 1960, the authorities again prohibited him from coming to Slovenia because he publicly protested in the Trieste newspapers against the suppression of the publication of Listina (‘The Document’) by Edvard Kocbek. In 1975, he raised a lot of dust together with writer Boris Pahor when they published an interview with Kocbek in which he spoke about the executions in Slovenia after the Second World War, which was considered to be a taboo topic at that time."
- The information that you added says: "In 1975, Pahor and Rebula published a book-interview entitled Edvard Kocbek: Pričevalec našega časa ("Edvard Kocbek: the Witness of Our Time"), in which Rebula condemned the summary killings of 12.000 memmbers of Slovene anti-comminist militia in May and June 1945, perpetrated by the Communist authorities. The book created a scandal in Yugoslavia and for five years Rebula was banned from entering Yugoslavia.[1]"
- When was he banned? Could you rectify this and add a footnote? Thanks. --Eleassar my talk 13:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
The article has been presented on the Main Page. Thanks for your contribution and keep up the good work! --Eleassar my talk 19:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Jože Javoršek
editGreat work. I was thinking about nominating it for a good article. The articles that are well written, sourced and cover the topic exhaustively are fine for this category. Probably you have written some more potential candidates recently, maybe Alojz Rebula? Let me know what you think. --Tone 19:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- And Boris Pahor as well. The only obvious thing that I miss is a very short introduction in these articles. Maybe you could expand them a bit, I suppose you're better at this than I am... Greetings. --Tone 20:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Pučnik is well-written as well. Maybe it would be good to improve reference style a bit, using the {{Citation}} consistently through the article would look very nice though it's extra work. Javoršek intro is fine now, Pahor could still have some more... Have you noticed Rebula's article ni the DYK on the Main page? I've just corrected the tense, he's still alive. --Tone 20:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I have just nominated Cankar and Župančič for GA because they are stylistically the best in my opinion. I suppose we can get both of them to FA with not much extra work but let's see what the GA review says. Cheers. --Tone 22:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Karel Dončec
editZdravo! Ščejo brisati članak Károly Doncsecz. Prosim pomagaj, ne dopüsti tau! Doncsecz
Hvala, Dončec
Images uploaded to Commons
editHi, could you please provide the exact source, the author information and the year of creation for the images you uploaded to Commons[3] so that PD-old can be verified. Otherwise they'll have to be deleted. --Eleassar my talk 19:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Could you please translate [[4] this]. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Have you really used the sources you have listed in the article?!
- Andrej Inkret, "Zupan, Vitomil", article in Enciklopedija Slovenije, vol. 15 (Ljubljana: Mladinska knjiga, 2001), 235-236.
- Vesna Milek, "Pesmi zoper smrt : portret Vitomila Zupana" in Delo, yr. 48, n. 114 (May 20 2006), 26-28.
- Bernard Nežmah, "Vitomil Zupan, Levitan: ponatis legendarnega dela iz leta 1982" in Mladina (May 13 2002), 81.
- Alenka Puhar, "Pesmi starega restanta: Zupanovo zbrano zaporniško delo" in Delo., yr. 48, n. 111 (May 17 2006), 15.
- Marjan Rožanc, Roman o knjigah (Ljubljana: Slovenska matica, 1983).
- Vlado Žabot, Estetski vidiki v Zupanovem Levitanu (Ljubljana: Univerza v Ljubljani, 1986).
I've removed them from the article. I really doubt they are available to you in the middle of the night in Budapest. There's no point in listing them as sources if they were not actually used. --Eleassar my talk 11:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, Further reading is fine as long as you know the material is of quality and useful. --Eleassar my talk 15:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Greater Slovenia
editTake a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Slovenia (2nd nomination). --Eleassar my talk 14:35, 19 April 2008 Hi could you try to expand some of the articles in Category:Slovenian articles needing translation thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Flag of the Province of Ljubljana
editIt must have existed. And I have the source that it did exist http://www.un.int/slovenia/insignia.html speaks of the flag used during WWII. If this flag shouldn't be used I would use commons:Image:Slovene Nation Flag.svg instead. Your oppinion, please without edit-waring. -- Imbris (talk) 21:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Please do not state that this Province had no flag, especially without and proof. You ask me to prove that this flag was used. It was used and not just by the Slovene Home Guard it was used in general. If this usage was not de jure it was most certainly been de facto. Your position seems to me like an general disbelief and not as a hard-fact oppinion. -- Imbris (talk) 21:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
You are insisting in deletionist crusade at every point where (by your account) is not sufficient data. It is most clear that this Province had a flag. Slovene Home Guard flag was used earlier as the flag of other Axis-supporters military units. When I have changed the text-caption under the flag you have also deleted it. It is most clear that the province existed under the Italians but also under the Germans. Flag of the Slovene Nation has been used before the WWII and during. -- Imbris (talk) 20:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The article lacks description of many important aspects regarding Slovenes (see talk page). If you can find any time to expand it, it will be appreciated. --Eleassar my talk 19:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Miško Kranjec
editŽivio! Ti ne vejš Miško Kranjec béjo je poraučen in imajo otroki? Doncsecz (talk) 14:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Aha, in ka je ime žena? Doncsecz (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Koper
editAs I don't speak Italian I'd ask you to verify whether this source used in the article Koper qualifies as a reliable source. It seems suspect to me as it includes the word irredentismo in the url. --Eleassar my talk 08:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. I've moved the data to the talk page. Perhaps you could also take a look at Gulf of Piran. I'm neither a lawyer nor a historian but anyway, it seems quite biased to me (written from the Croatian viewpoint). --Eleassar my talk 18:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Euro gold and silver commemorative coins of Slovenia
editHey, thanks for the contributions, I hope you like the article as a good Slovenian you seem to be. This article will be the start of a great one as time passes by, in my personal opinion. Miguel.mateo (talk) 13:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Coat of arms of Socialist Republic of Slovenia
editCould you as a historian please look at Socialist Republic of Slovenia, Coat of arms of Slovenia, Republic of Slovenia (1990-1991), History of Slovenia, and Coats of arms of the Yugoslav Socialist Republics to ensure that the correct version of the coat of arms of SR Slovenia is displayed? User:R-41 recently changed it ([5], [6], [7], [8], [9]) without any discussion or explanation. I'm not sure which one is correct but assume the former as this is the one I have commonly seen in the past (or at least think I have). There is another version, available in Commons - uploaded by Romanm on 19 July 2007. You may also verify other contributions by this editor. Thanks a lot. --Eleassar my talk 11:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll leave it as is then. --Eleassar my talk 14:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Triglav - symbol of communism?
editSory ,Viator i say Triglav is a mighty symbol of Slovenian people, not a symbol of communisem, with his mighty, the mount represents Slovenians. Also i sad that,the red star above the socialistic coat of arms was a symbol of all communistic countries, i would be very pleased if you corect mistakes that were maded there and insert that article back. Slovenians are many times confused by Slovaks, so any body can see the flag of Slovenians and should know which people that flag represents. Regards--Makedonij (talk) 06:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that's what you written, as may be verified in the article's history.[10] --Eleassar my talk 18:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, Viator, i agree with your comment on my talk page, you seems like very reasonable person, i just want to contribut to Slovenians articele, like some one from second poit of view, who is not Slovene, but also live among Slovenians, and knows a lott of their heretige, so the article would be more neutral. I know how it is when article is writen by foreingrs, for example Macedonians, where Greek and Bulgarian authors denideing every single macedonian edit, and pushing them to become nerveus so thy could rich the limit and recived blocade or baned from pages like me. I will tray to help improveing articles abot Slovenians, but first i will discuss it with you. Regards --Makedonij (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
If you have any time, could you have a look at the article? It seems biased. --Eleassar my talk 18:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the statement by Kučan is the most disturbing. It is taken out of context imo. --Eleassar my talk 20:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
JSDS
editHi. Thanx for your edits at the JSDS article. I created it, but had some problems sorting out several details. One question, do you know which elections the party contested? Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes parliamentary election, 1923 mentions a 'Social Democratic Party', but there were more than one SD party at the time, i understand. --Soman (talk) 20:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
it:Martin Weinek e it:Kaspar Capporoni in sloveno e croato
editBuongiorno a te, ti scrivo in italiano perché ho visto che parli molto bene la mia lingua, data la vicinanza della Slovenia. Mi presento sono un utente calabrese che va in giro per l'Europa (almeno su Wiki), ho visto che nella pagina italiana Sloveno-italiani che ho creato, c'è stato come logico il tuo contributo. Ebbene, avrei bisogno di una cortesia da te, sempre se non chiedo troppo! Se ti avanza del tempo, per cortesia saresti così gentile da tradurre in sloveno e in croato l'articoli di questi due attori, il primo mi è molto simpatico e forse lo conosci sicuramente, per il secondo la cosa è speciale, infatti vorrei fargli un regalo di compleanno per domani, per i sui buoni 44 anni. Spero che tu possa esaudire questa mia richiesta, nell'attesa ti ringrazio in anticipo e ti porgo i saluti da Campora San Giovanni, mio paesino natale, invitandoti a passare qualche vacanza da noi.--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 08:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- PS se non trovi l'immagine di Capparoni, prova con questa, grazie e scusami se ti ho creato del disturbo--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 08:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nessunissimo problema, in sloveno è più che ottimo, Troppa grazia. Ti ringrazio in anticipo--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 09:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Grazie assai. A buon rendere!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Nessunissimo problema, in sloveno è più che ottimo, Troppa grazia. Ti ringrazio in anticipo--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 09:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Zizek lead description
editI just reverted you on the lead. I had initially thought you had changed an existing adjective "Marxist" to "Slovene", but then I noticed that the national origin adjective had actually be in place until a very recent edit by an anon editor. So my revert was quicker than it needed to be.
Nonetheless, I think the anon's edit is an improvement. We give Zizek's birthplace in the next sentence, so elaborating on his political/philosophical direction is more informative than just repeating that information. All the best, LotLE×talk 21:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I'd be glad if you could help me with this one. Cheers. --Tone 20:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Have you seen this article? There was some talk in the Slovenian Wikipedia [11] about deleting it if someone can argument the deletion well enough. I've thought perhaps you as a historian would be willing to do so; or is this a legitimate article? --Eleassar my talk 13:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinion. I'll copy the conversation to the talk page of the article to be available to other editors. --Eleassar my talk 15:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Prekmursko
editMorda treba tako šematizem, ker dobra je primerjava. Ti ne veš, kje lahko takšno? Doncsecz (talk) 09:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Hvala! Jaz samo zaradi izvirnostja pišem staro prekmursko besedilo, napr. tukaj. Ampak dobro je tudi moderni slovenski. Doncsecz (talk) 06:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Slovenski pisatelji in pesniki na Madžarskem
editTukaj je nekaj neznanstven pisatelj in pesnik.
- Balaž Berke/Berke Balázs
- Mihael Kološa/Kolossa Mihály
- Števan Kozel/Kozel István
- Mikloš Legen/Legén Miklós
- Gregor Lutar/Luthár Gergely
- Mikloš Lutar/Luttár Miklós
- Janoš Murkovič/Murkovics János
- Gabriel Nenčič/Nencsics Gábor
- Anton Števanec/Stevanecz Antal
- Mihál Terplan/Terplán Mihály
- Janoš Županek/Zsupánek János
Toliko vem, da Balaž Berke je bil evangeličanski duhovnik v Puconcih in v Hodošu pisal ena pesmerica (Dühovne peszmi piszane po Berke Balázsi vu Nemes Csobi). Števan Kozal pisal katoliška pesmerica v Kraščih v 18. stoletju. Mikloš Legen živel v Martjancih in l. 1710 pisal martjanska pesmarica Gabriela Nenčiča dela je "Goszto nam je sal, kai je nas ország tak kroto opuscsen. Mihál (Michaelis) Terplan tudi v Martjancih deloval, r. 2. avgusta, l. 1756 in pisal "Druga martjanska pesmerica" 6. januarja, l. 1786. (Viri: V. Novak: Martjanska pesmerica, 1997). Antonu Števanecu samo to vem, ka r. l. 1861 v Vančem vesu in umrl v Lendavi, l. 1921. V Lendavi je bil novinar. Doncsecz (talk) 08:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Deletion
editTukaj treba ešče vir: József Szakovics in István Szelmár. Imaš? Doncsecz (talk) 13:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Ljubljana tramway
editHello. I have a question for you. Could you please check the accuracy of this, perhaps using this as a reference? Eventually, it might be nice to adapt that into a Ljubljana trolley article, but I suppose there's no rush. - Biruitorul Talk 04:33, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for checking up on that. - Biruitorul Talk 16:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Bezgovo cvrtje?
editHi, do you have any reliable references on this Slovenian dish, Bezgovo cvrtje, you can add at the Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February 6# Bezgovo cvrtje
Anton Trstenjak
editViator! Ti ne veš kdo je bil tisti Anton Trstenjak, ki je bil potnik in pisal knjigo Slovenci na Ogrskem in črtica o Slovencev na Šomodskem. V wikipediji samo tisti članek je: sl:Anton Trstenjak, ampak to je filozof bil. Mislim, da je Trstenjak se je rodil leta 1853 in umrl l. 1917. V internetu ni več dokumentov, samo to. Doncsecz 11:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, we have made several efforts to save this article, which has been deleted, lately here, Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 February 6# Bezgovo cvrtje because of the lack of reliable sources. It is said to be a Slovenian national dish, and it is very upseting that it has been deleted. Do you have any reliable references or information on this Slovenian dish, Bezgovo cvrtje, you can provide? We want to try it again- Warrington (talk) 12:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thanks!
editThanks for your improvements to the Dom in svet article also. It's sometimes hard to find sources in English on the history of that region, so it's possible to get things wrong or miss something unless a person familiar with sources in other languages reviews it. --Delirium (talk) 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Feri Lainšček
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Huda Jama
editI've started an article about Huda Jama. I'm not sure how comfortable you are with this issue, especially with all the political manoeuvring around it these past few days. But if possible, it would be helpful for a Slovenian to add something as my sources are very Croat-centric. Cheers.--Thewanderer (talk) 23:24, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Good! I'm glad you're interested. I'd like to help you with a Teharje camp article as well, but in general I have found very little info on the communist post-war camps. For example, I have tried to research the large camp in Požega which held Croatian Home Guards from Herzegovina, with very little success. Anyways, I'd encourage you to expand on the subject as much as possible - I'll offer as much help as I can.--Thewanderer (talk) 23:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Prekmurian
editCiao Viator e grazie per il tuo aiuto con l'articolo Prekmurian dialect, il quale sto traducendo per la Wikipedia in tedesco. Avendo l'intenzione di tradurlo anche all'italiano (insieme alla mia proofreader), ti vorrei chiedere se esiste una traduzione italiana dell'aggettivo prekmursko. Abbiamo già effettuato un po' di ricerca su Internet ma non abbiamo trovato niente al riguardo. --Kazu89 ノート 20:22, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Va bene, ti contatterò su it.wiki. --Kazu89 ノート 16:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Slovenian naval jack
editProsim, da navedeš, kje naj bi bila definirana slovenska pomorska zastava! It is explicit in the Slovenian law that maritime flag is the same as the national (state) flag, and there is no mention in any legal act of a naval jack. MGTom (talk) 08:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC) (corr. MGTom (talk) 00:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC))
Hvala za sporočilo. Bom pozoren na morebitno pojavljanje takega prapora, vendar sem prepričan, da zanj ni nikakršne zakonske osnove. Ustava v 6. členu jasno opredeljuje državne simbole, prav tako pa Zakon o grbu, zastavi in himni (oboje se hitro najde na spletu) ne pozna državnih praporov ampak le državno zastavo. Pomorski zakonik Slovenije, ki bi končno (morda) lahko kaj dodal k prvim dvema aktoma, o "praporu" ne govori nič (besedilo ne vsebuje te besede), pač pa pravi: 203. člen
Slovenska pomorska zastava je znak slovenske državne pripadnosti ladje. Slovenska pomorska zastava je državna zastava Republike Slovenije. Minister izda predpis o izobešanju slovenske pomorske zastave.
Sicer pa zelo močno dvomim, da bi katerikoli predpis ustoličil prapor s temi barvami, kot so navedene na citiranih spletnih straneh, ker je bilo o zastavi tu (v Sloveniji) kar dosti govora in je bil predlog modro-rumene kombinacije ("ukrajinske"), ki ga je zagovarjal Jelinčič, popolnoma zavrnjen. MGTom (talk) 00:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Victims of political repression
editThis is to notify you that Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_21#Victims_of_political_repression, which you participated in, reached no consensus to delete, but has been relisted to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_30#Victims_of_political_repression in order to determine if consensus can be reached on other alternatives. Your further input would be appreciated.--Aervanath (talk) 06:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Pisal sem novi članek, ampak ne vem, če ime je tako dobro. Doncseczznánje 12:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Razumem. Čeprav imaš resnico, ker Slovenska krajina bila tudi na Slovaškem, ampak tam je Srpska Krajina (Serbian Krajina), tam je ostala slovanski izraz v angleščini. Mislim ni treba: Slovensko: Slovenska krajina, Prekmursko: Szlovenszka krajina, samo Prekmursko in Slovensko tudi: Slovenska krajina, ker ista v slovenščini in v prekmurščini. Doncseczznánje 15:47, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry Viator slovenicus, but I can't find that discussion on Boris Pahor page.--Grifter72 (talk) 13:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Started. Calmly. I too have little time.--Grifter72 (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
This can help you: http://www.zrs.upr.si/SL/zaloznistvo/knjiznica%20annales/Suha_pasta/Suha_pasta.pdf --Grifter72 (talk) 16:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
editJust wanted to say thanks for your work tidying up and double-checking some of the pages that I've translated recently. It's useful for me to have my work checked both for accuracy and Wikipedia formatting, so thanks. A jacksn (talk) 14:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello fellow WP:Slovenia member, can you expand? Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Rudolf Maister in Carinthia
editPlease clear up the inconsistencies between your order of the events in Carinthia (state) and the article on Rudolf Maister and other sources such as the C. State Archives. And please, add whatever you like but be so good and do not remove anything that is not incorrect. I have now tried hard to combine your additions with what I had formulated before your intervention. --Marschner (talk) 21:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
You are invited to join WikiProject Intertranswiki and join Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Slovenian. It is intended to be a joint group between Intertranswiki and WikiProject Slovenia of which you are already a part of The aim is to draw up a directory of missing articles from Slovenian wikipedia, extract what is notable or suitable, and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge between other wikipedias. Even if you can't contribute much in starting content, your help is much needed to help draw up detailed lists of missing articles for Slovenia in the new project space and help other editors work through lists to build content more fully. Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I thought you would be interested in compiling lists of missing articles??Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Slovenian/Culture Dr. Blofeld White cat 08:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Viator! Could you please have a look at the aforementioned article and remove the pov tags if the objections have been covered? Thanks. --Eleassar my talk
- Hi again! If you think the article is biased, could you please re-add the pov tag to the article and the explanation of what is non-neutral to its talk page? --Eleassar my talk 07:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. --Eleassar my talk 19:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
New Slovenia-related articles
editAnother thing I ask you for is to list all your newly created/recently expanded articles related to Slovenia at Portal:Slovenia/New article announcements. This way we may monitor all of them from the same place via Special:Recentchangeslinked. Thanks and regards. --Eleassar my talk 15:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Links to 'Literature in Context'
editHi, Viator! The links to 'Literature in context' that you have been adding to the articles do not meet WP:EL as the site requires registration. Could you please go through the list [12] and remove them where they have been added by you? Thanks. --Eleassar my talk 10:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- Have been removed (except for inline citations). --Eleassar my talk 10:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
The discussion about the legitimacy of the article has been reopened, see its talk page. --Eleassar my talk 07:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Žižek BLP violator
editI know you've done a bunch of good work on the Slavoj Žižek article, so presumably have an interest. An anonymous editor has inserted some weird fringe link to a video of some random Israeli who claims Žižek stole his work. I've reverted the WP:BLP violation several times, but don't want to risk 3RR myself (even though BLP is a technical exception to the rule). I'm hoping you'll see this and wander over that way. Thanks. LotLE×talk 06:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
The criticism section has been removed from the article due to the lack of sources.diff --Eleassar my talk 11:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear Viator slovenicus - Thank you for the improvements to the article I started on Prežihov Voranc. I was very pleased to see the article grow so quickly. I am not a Slovenian speaker and came across Mr Voranc's work whilst on holiday in Slovenia by way of an English translation. I thought the stories (although not the translation) fantastic and was dissappointed to find that only a tiny amount of his work is available in English. I hope that the wikipedia article can garner just enough interest to see more translated.
I am having hassles with the Copywright police incidentally although I used photographs from the Slovene site. Perhaps you could keep an eye on the article and use your contacts to get other photographs should the current ones be deleted. Thank you Greg dorkinglad (talk)
Viator! Prosim pomagaj! Zdaj to hočejo brisati. Doncseczznánje 13:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Prekmurian dialect
editKaj si pisal v dovodu, to je zelo prezira prekmurščino. Vem da slovenščina ima več značilnih narečij, ampak prekmurščina ne kakšna krčmarska narečja, ker to je bil poučni jezik še v 20. stoletju in so tiskali 300 knjig v prekmurščini. Dva Küzmiča nekoč sta tudi rekla, da ljudstvo Slovenske okrogline tudi Slovenci, kot Štajerci in Kranjci, ampak svoj jezik imajo, to treba poučevati. Jožef Klekl je silil združitev s Slovenijo, ampak ni obveljal, da prekmurščina samo narečje. V slovenski wikipediji nekoč sem pisal članek sl:Prekmurska jezikovna vojna, ampak še nisem končal. Danes Feri Lainšček, Milan Vincetič, Milan Zrinski in drugi tudi trdijo, da prekmurščina slovenski regionalni jezik. Ne to znamenit, da so velike razlike med prekmurščino in slovenščino, marveč kakšno veliko tradicijo ima. To ni producirala niti ena slovenska narečja. Doncseczznánje 17:12, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Sem prebral članek o evropski karti regionalnega jezika, ampak ni se realiziral, kaj si napisal v predgovoru. Prekmurščina ima svoja teritorija, imajo razlike s slovenskim jezikom, ker ima standard jezik, edinstveno literaturo, lahko da en del govorcev ne misli, da je to jezik, ker Prekmurje je zaostalo, veliko ne zna, da je prekmursko Sveto pismo. Ni si slišal o gradiščanščini (Burgenland Croatian language)? Doncseczznánje 19:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Unreferenced BLPs
editHello Viator slovenicus! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 2 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 3 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:
- Tamara Griesser Pečar - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Niko Grafenauer - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Napisal sem članek o Nouvem Zákonu. A lahko pogledaš? Samo pomembne informacije sem napisal, v slovenski verziji je več. Kasneje želim o drugih pomembnih prekmurskih knjigah pisati tukaj. Doncsecztalk 09:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Battaglia di Tarnova
editCredo che qui (in fondo), possano aver bisogno del tuo aiuto: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussione:Battaglia_di_Tarnova
Scusa se non ti contatto nella wiki italiana, ma li non posso... sono bannato a vita;)
Ciao --Grifter72 (talk) 13:50, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
- Dear Viator, I'll use English in this talk. I've had some trouble in translation of this book, but I believe that I've understood the meanings. The biggest problem is to know if after Tarnova Battle Axis left Tarnova Highlands. Please, reply to me in my Italian talk, or directly in the talk of Battaglia di Tarnova. Thanks so much. More, could you do a research on google to discover further sources about Tarnova Battle in Yugoslavian languages? --Emanuele Mastrangelo (talk) 20:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Ciao, scusa il ritardo. Non sono stato vittima di nessuna ingiustizia. Ho preferito andarmene perché non condivido quello che stanno facendo nella wiki italiana. Ho lanciato minacce legali ad admin e burocrati. Dovevo essere bannato;) La definizione che li descrive meglio è: oligopolio gerontocratico romanosiculo. --Grifter72 (talk) 21:34, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Trnovo Battle
editHi, I'd like to know if you could help in finding sources (either in English or Slovenian and Croatian, possibly to be translated to English) about a series of armed clashes occurred in and around Trnovo essentially between Italian fascist forces (Xa MAS), allied with German forces, and the Slovenian National Liberation Army XIX Brigade "Srečko Kosovel", allied with Italian Partisans, starting from late December 1944 and ending in early January 1945, which are also know in Italian literature as "Battaglia di Tarnova" (Tarnova Battle), occurred during the anti-partisan German-led "Operation Adler". Thanks in advance for your help. --Piero Montesacro (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Any advice? (Prekmurje etc.)
editHi Viator. I'm a relative newbie to Wikipedia, and am hoping you can offer some advice on this Slovenian topic. I've been trying to do some cleanup here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prekmurian_dialect. Unfortunately, contributor Doncsecz has been continually reverting the edits to what others have already described as "not ... very English", "nearly completely ununderstandable English", and so on (I suspect it may be actually machine translation and not actual human production). It's becoming tedious to undo the reversions as I continue to move forward on the cleanup (he or she seems to be stuck on the very un-English form "Prekmurian"). Is there some kind of arbitration that the matter can be referred to? I just don't know the procedure or if there is anything appropriate that can be done. Best wishes, Doremo (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'll put a note in the discussion page specifically regarding the -ian form for future discussion. Doremo (talk) 05:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- I've summed it up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Prekmurian_dialect#Prekmurje.2C_not_.22Prekmurian.22 when you get a chance to get around to the matter. Best wishes, Doremo (talk) 05:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Viator, to ni res, da ni dobro ime Prekmurian, ker moja kolegica na madžarski wikipediji zelo, zelo dobro govori angleščino in je rekla, da oblika Prekmurian je boljša. Doncsecztalk 10:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- Dobro. Poročam Doremu, da ti tudi prekmurian izraz podpiraš. Doncsecztalk 12:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Anton Bezenšek
editHi! I noticed you added (already a few years ago) the date of death to article Anton Bezenšek: [13]. But after your edit the article contains two conflicting dates: did Bezenšek die 12 November or 11 December? I assume 11 December is correct (based on [14]), and added it the corresponding article in Finnish Wikipedia. But perhaps you would know better, whether "12 November" was accidental or are there some sources to support that? Thanks! --Ryhanen (talk) 10:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- 11th December is the date reported by the Slovenian Bibliographical Lexicon. I took it from there. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 15:40, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!
editI just wanted to thank you a lot on improving a section of Controversies (Social Democrats). I forgot about the villa in Ljubljana. Thanks! Untamle (talk) 20:14, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Oče naš v prekmurščini
editZdravo! Sem prepisal tisto poglavje v članku prekmurščine, kjer so variante molitve Oče naš. Ker sem našel Oče naš v knjižni kajkavščini: tukaj je novo kajkavsko Sveto pismo. En hrvaški wikipedist mu je rekel, da Japa naš je v medmurskem narečju. Tudi sem ga napisal v gradiščanskohrvaškem jeziku iz nemške wikipedije. Doncsecztalk 08:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Prekmurščina v nemški
editViator! Je en uporabnik v nemški wikipediji in zaradi uporabnika sem blokiran, ker sem se razburil, ko je uporabnik rekel, da viri Vilka Novaka so nepravi. Uporabnik je Avstrijec, ampak ne pozne slovenskih narečij, ter slovenščine in samo neumnost pravi. Doncsecztalk 19:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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Lovro Sturm
editHello! Just created a new article, Lovro Sturm. I figured that you would be the right guy to have look at it. Please be free to make contributions (or corrections). Regards Sir Floyd (talk) 01:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Verify sources & image captions
editHi, Viator!
First, thanks for your large contribution to the Slovenia-related articles. Anyway, what I politely ask you is to conscientiously verify and cite sources (using inline citations) for the claims you make in articles. For example, the ethnic origin of Max Fabiani is probably Italian, at least according to [15]: "Poreklo družine je najbrž italijansko, kultura avstrijska, okolje v katerem so živeli pa slovensko podeželje." Also, the monument to Ivan Hribar has not been erected on the Prešeren Square, but on the Hribar Embankment.[16]
Another thing that I'd like to point to you is the use of period in image captions (see WP:CAPTION). Most captions are not real sentences, but extended nominal groups; for example, "The Conservatory during Macquarie Night Lights, a summer festival" (no final period), but "The Conservatory was spotlit during Macquarie Night Lights, a summer festival." (full sentence with final period).
Take this as a benevolent advice aimed at providing Wikipedia readers with high quality material. Have a nice day. --Eleassar my talk 10:14, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Discuss the contributions and not the contributors
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Your comment was relatively minor ("Don't be silly") in your recent edit summary on Slovenia. But that part of your comment was addressed to the motive or attitude of another editor. Best policy is to discuss the contribution to the encyclopedia and not the contributor. Cheers. N2e (talk) 20:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry. But it was meant in the best possible way. Almost as a sign of affection ;) Viator slovenicus (talk) 21:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. That's why I passed along only a very mild rebuke on the matter. I've just learned over the years that with WP editing, it is almost always a mistake to go even a little over the line on discussing other editors, rather than merely the editing. I know you meant well. N2e (talk) 05:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- You're right. My bad. Viator slovenicus (talk) 13:45, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Changes to the articles related to Ljubljana
editHi Viator, can you please leave a decent summary of the edits you make? I don't see the reason for the removal of quite illustrative images from the Vodnik Square and Tivoli Park. --Eleassar my talk 19:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- For the galleries, see WP:IG: "Images are typically interspersed individually throughout an article near the relevant text (see WP:MOSIMAGES)." For the naming of streets, I suggest you have a look at the examples of translated names in Category:Streets by city (for example Category:Streets in Warsaw). Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but Wikipedia is a collaborative project. --Eleassar my talk 20:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
CSUCTLT
editHi. Could you have a look at Confederazione dei Sindacati Unici Classisti del Territorio libero di Trieste and see if there is any Slovenian and/or Serbo-Croat material that could be used for expansion? The article is currently at T:TDYK, but is considered too short. Thanks, --Soman (talk) 03:22, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
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editČeprav Jugoslovanska zastava modra-bela-rdeča in časa kraljevine ni bila zares uporabljana s strani slovencev kot naroda, je bila de jure zastava Kraljevine Slovencev Hrvatov in Srbov , torej Jugoslavije katero so med drugimi ustvarili slovenci kot narod. Kraljevino je nato uradno nasledila federacija, ki so jo zopet ustvarili slovenci skupaj z južnimi narodi, in nato je zdaj Slovenija uradna naslednica federacije, skupaj Hrvaško, Srbijo in ostalimi, torej je Republika Slovenija uradna naslednica Kraljevine Jugoslavije, kar pomeni da so simboli ki jih je uporabljala predhodnica Slovenije v svetu v skupni državi, torej Kraljevini, pripadajo tudi njeni zgodovini, torej ni razlogov za odstranitev zastave Kraljevine z angleškega artikla Flag of Slovenia, ki je hočeš, nočeš bila naša zastava pred nekaj več kot 60 leti. Mrwho00tm (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Tag at Rožman
editViator, you have shown in the past that your knowledge of these matters is extremely limited, probably restricted to some kind of propaganda from family members. You didn't even know that there were two Domobranci oaths of allegiance to the Third Reich. Please do not add tags to articles that you do not have enough subject knowledge to edit. Thanks, AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 21:55, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Viator, if you knew anything about the subject, you would be willing and perhaps able to entertain a talk page discussion. You are operating on pure prejudice, without a single reference to support your purely personal POV. Something (else) that you are unaware of is the requirement to justify a tag at the talk page of any article. You are unaware that you cannot simply add them - you have to explain why. So start explaining pronto. You've had enough time. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Viator, let's see your reasoned arguments, with their sources, if any. I think you are only here to edit for right-wing political purposes, without a book in the house. Not a single one. Nič. Nada. Niente.AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 23:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
see my comment
editHi, if you are going to change one page, please update the others as well to make things consistent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:State_of_Slovenes,_Croats_and_Serbs#removal_of_the_Kingdom_of_Croatia-Slavonia James Michael DuPont (talk) 16:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
December 2010
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Sveta Lucija culture
editHi, I've removed a sentence fragment mentioning Veneti from the article Slovenia, but have read something about Venetic inscriptions found in Most na Soči. I'm sure you will know as a historian from Goriška, whether the Sveta Lucija culture qualifies as Venetic. Thanks for reply. --Eleassar my talk 15:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I'll keep it out of the article as long as there are different not really reliable hypotheses. --Eleassar my talk 21:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- See also [17], pg. 9. --Eleassar my talk 00:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Completely unsourced new articles are our friends!
editViator, rather than dipping your toe into matters of import of which your knowledge is scant, or, indeed, (*whispers*) zero, perhaps you should restrict yourself to your strength, your modus operandi, which is creating articles without a single source or historical affadavit that nobody is interested in? The latter will plump your ego, while the former, my dear, will lead you into all manner of bother. But I'm here to help and console, whichever you choose. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 23:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
History section in Slovenia article
editHi. I've started trimming several sections of the Slovenia article. It would be great if you could help - the idea would be to make the section History significantly shorter, as it is extremely long at the moment (seems even longer than the History of Slovenia itself.) Also, it would be a good idea to include 3-4 sentences about the history in the introduction. Let me know what you think. Regards, --Tone 21:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've replaced most of the content of History of Slovenia article with the corresponding section from Slovenia. (and that made the article twice longer ;-) ) So, all the content will be preserved when trimming begins. Please, keep an eye on my work. --Tone 14:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- I see you are already working on the new version. One tiny detail, could you introduce some references to the text? Preferably history books, at the moment we have quite some paragraphs without a single reference... --Tone 11:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Highly unlikely mate. I've looked through all his edits, and it's all unsourced nonsense. Good luck picking the bones, if any, of the unsourced crap this guy slops you up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.142.253.180 (talk) 00:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- I see you are already working on the new version. One tiny detail, could you introduce some references to the text? Preferably history books, at the moment we have quite some paragraphs without a single reference... --Tone 11:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Gregorij Rožman
editDo you know anything at all about Rožman? Yes or no? By your interventions you show you have big (maybe small, we don't know) cock of catholic chuch in mouth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.142.253.180 (talk) 00:38, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
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editI appreciate your contribution to the article on Fascism where you pointed out that the picture of ORJUNA supporters was taken at a certain location, Mount Triglav in Slovenia. However a source is needed to verify this. Do you know for certain that they were on Mount Triglav and not another location? If so what is your evidence that the photograph was taken there?--R-41 (talk) 05:02, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Regime
editThis word will not suffice anywhere in any weasel capacity. I know what you say about self-designation but the word is never taken to mean "set of conditions" as isn't being used so in this sense. When the BBC talk about Syrians taking up arms to fight "the regime", they specifically refer to the administration or the government but they won't say so - as "regime" has more dictatorial overtones, another reason they stop short of using the word when referring to favourable governments. It is not my intention to edit war which is why I have made modifications each time. I believe we can drop the word and it can make sense, or we can say "Tito's reign". There are many options and I happy with most. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 17:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- On the whole, I believe that it is always possible to find a decent encyclopaedic alternative but I've actually changed my mind now. Normally I amend the word and it meets little to no opposition. The task of switching it everywhere is impossible as I've found it locked into titles here on protected pages. Try suggesting a move on a protected article! It's like trying to move a continent. To that end, let it stay however you like it. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 00:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Formation of Slovene ethnicity
editHi, Viator! There has been a proposal (see the category page) to delete Category:Slovene painters. I've done some research and have found an article that claims there was no Slovene ethnicity before the middle of the 19th century.[18] Can you as a historian give perhaps an estimate on how prevalent is this opinion in scholarly sources? Thanks a lot. Because if this is true, then Franz Caucig can't be classified as a Slovene and Primož Trubar neither. It seems strange to me why he used the term Slovenes, if the ethnicity had not existed. --Eleassar my talk 08:13, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, I've read your opinion and thanks for it. I'll bear in mind your reasoning, which is well founded, except the claim that Trubar never referred to himself as a Carniolan. This is disputed by the source presented (pg. 156-157). I'll add a footnote about this to the article that you may review and improve. On the other hand, the claim in the source that Trubar never referred to himself as Slovene seems incorrect to me, for he said: "Mi Kranjci, Spodnještajerci, Korošci in Slovenci"[19] - who would then be Slovenci? --Eleassar my talk 10:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Name "Judnich"
editI noticed you edited the wiki article on "Wally Judnich" to specify he is Slovenian. I'm curious how you knew the name was Slovenian, and if you could tell me anything else about the name? I have the same last name, but really don't know anything about it since I only speak English, and my family never spoke much of genealogy. Googling the name gives practically no useful results. Thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.210.115.12 (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Uh, that was a while ago. I didn't guess on the basis of the surname, I've read it somewhere (although I don't remember where now). According to the base of Slovenian surnames, published by the Statistical Office (http://www.stat.si/imena_baza_priimki.asp?ime=&priimek=judni%E8&spol=), Judnič is a very rare surname in Slovenia, only 75 people are called that way, the majority of them from Lower Carniola (or White Carniola). This probably means there's one or two villages, located in southeastern Slovenia, where this surname is common. Viator slovenicus (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks very much - that's very helpful. You can delete this from the talk page if you like (sorry if I posted this the wrong way, I'm not used to using wikipedia much). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.210.115.12 (talk) 04:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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editAve atque Vale :-) Viator slovenicus,
I am an Italian-Swiss (non-Fascist :-)) Wikipedian asking your opinion about the recent edits of a fellow countryman of you on the Benito Mussolini article. I noticed that you had recently similar problems with him on other articles, so your opinion on Talk:Benito Mussolini would be welcomed. Thanks Alex2006 (talk) 07:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nachtrag :-) : I opened a thread also on the Talk:Julian March page. Also there your opinion on the recent changes would be welcomed. Thanks! Alex2006 (talk) 13:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
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Slovene Partisans
editHi, as you're a historian I'd propose that you keep an eye on Slovene Partisans and its talk page. This change should be reviewed too. Thank you and stay well. --Eleassar my talk 07:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
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editHey - I replied on my talk page. Best, --DancingPhilosopher my talk 15:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I've added this to the discussion we have over there. Thank you. --DancingPhilosopher my talk 12:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- Viator, thank you for the additional clarification provided here. --DancingPhilosopher my talk 14:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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- Viator, thank you for the additional clarification provided here. --DancingPhilosopher my talk 14:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Opinion?
editG'day Viator slovenicus, could you please comment at User_talk:Eleassar#Category:Slovenia_in_WWII? Thanks, --Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Order of the People's Hero?
editHi, as you have contributed to the discussion at Talk:Order of the People's Hero, you may be interested in Talk:Order of the People's Hero#Requested move. --Eleassar my talk 08:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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- Hey! Unfortunately, I have virtually no extra time these days ... maybe some other time, in autumn. Viator slovenicus (talk) 14:08, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- That's understandable, thanks for the reply. PEarley (WMF) (talk) 14:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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Boj za severno mejo
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Slovene minority in Italy
editOnly a little note to yr to-do list. I think it might include Pavle Merkù. His son Andro is included here although not so relevant (a lot of important actors and directors could replace this entry). Thank you for the contribution to Slovene culture. User Radek from slo wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.176.142.219 (talk) 09:27, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Conoscenza
editTu hai la conoscenza necessaria per affrontare il vecchio caso ancora irrisolto dei soliti accounts e sockpuppets che vogliono imporre un POV di ridicola propaganda titoista in voce Josip Broz Tito: puoi spiegare la situazione in Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents#Manipulated and mystified sources, se è stata riaperta la discussione, o in talk:Josip Broz Tito#Dispute; per megio orientarti leggi qui, la sezione [Incipient edit war at Josip Broz Tito]Teo Pitta (talk) 09:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
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Engaged literature
editHi, Viator, could you please clarify the term "engaged literature" that you contributed to the article at Talk:Ivan Cankar. Thanks a lot. Regards, --Eleassar my talk 12:48, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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editHello Viator, I was thinking maybe you could give me your opinion on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Christoph_Waltz#Slovenian_heritage I've proven that Christoph Waltz has Slovenian roots and is related to Josipina Turnograjska, but some editors are trying to deny this and I do not understand why. I'm trying to assume good faith, but the this whole thing really puzzles me. Anyway, I hope that by reading the talk through you will be able to put things in order. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max9844419087 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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editEnglish titles for Cankar's plays
editHi there, I'm wondering (if you can recall-- the edit was 13 years ago!) where you got the English titles for Ivan Cankar's plays when you made this edit. As far as I know, his plays have not been translated into English, so I wonder if these are accepted translated titles or just translations you came up with? Thanks! James Hyett (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
No clue 😁 Some works have been translated; those titles which have not, might have been my translations. Viator slovenicus (talk) 18:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Zizek Bibliography: deletion of Russia Today publications
editHello Viator slovenicus,
I write to you, because you have been editing the Slavoj Žižek Page. I'm editing the Zizek bibliography. Here I also mention the op-ed publications on Russia Today. There is a WP editor who holds the opinion, that these edits violate Wikipedia:RSP. I can't see how this is applicable. You can read my argument here. The editor doesn't respond.
If you have an interest in the subject, I would be happy, if you could contribute your opinion. If you don't have an interest, maybe you know someone else who might have?
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Matej Sternen
editČe prav berem zgodovino urejanja članka o Mateju Sternenu v angleščini, si pred skoraj petnajstimi leti dodal odstavek o njegovem simpatiziranju z Leonom Rupnikom, a za to nisi navedel nobenega vira. Danes je nek uporabnik dodal povezavo na Sternenov portret Rupnika v DLib in na pogovorni strani zaprosil za dodaten vir te trditve. Enako kot mene ga je zmedlo, da Sternenovo simpatiziranje z Rupnikom ni nič omenjeno na razstavi v Narodni galeriji in tudi ne v obširnejšem slovenskem članku o njem. Je omenjeno v francoskem članku o Sternenu, za katerega domnevam, da je povzet po angleškem. Hvala, da boš zadevo pogledal in dopolnil z navedbo dodatnega vira, kar bi bo treba potem dodati tudi v slovenski članek. 89.142.47.139 (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Živijo: ne spomnim se več vira. Bom preveril. Mislim, da je o tem pisal Taras Kermauner, a moram preveriti, kje točno. Viator slovenicus (talk) 23:01, 5 July 2023 (UTC)