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Im not really asking if you would, more so why you would? Not like its a new console in limited supply. No real risk of them selling out or not being available.

I understand what an Apple TV is, im pointing out that people arent clamoring and camping out to buy stock on release date.
This is it.

I think at this point they care more about the app/content than the box itself.

Sure you get a few extra perks (iTunes Extras/increased bit rate for ATV Originals) but the majority of people are more than happy to watch on the Fire Sticks of this world and I’m sure Apple are much more happier with that.
 
This is it.

I think at this point they care more about the app/content than the box itself.

Sure you get a few extra perks (iTunes Extras/increased bit rate for ATV Originals) but the majority of people are more than happy to watch on the Fire Sticks of this world and I’m sure Apple are much more happier with that.
Exactly - a Firestick 4K can be had for £50 from Amazon. Even a £99 Apple TV 4K would be double the price. I think the average person just looks to make sure the streaming apps they want are available and then go with the cheapest option: I mean - Netflix is Netflix, right?

The whole "games console" idea is a non-starter - an M4/16GB/256GB option (likely the minimum for modern games) is already available as a Mac Mini which costs £599 - no way a similar spec as an Apple TV will be below £499 (especially as it has to come with a controller). For me, Apple needs to start thinking outside the box to push the Apple TV 4k, but given the low price, do they really want to commit the resources? Some ideas that I've thrown out before
  • Dolby Vision 2 support (should be possible to add this to existing models, but I'm sure Apple would rather you bought a new model)
  • Homekit lighting support to enable Ambilight-like effects from connected HomeKit lights (and perhaps a TV light strip to work with this)
  • A real ML-based upscaling solution, similar to MetalFX, but for video that would allow a 720p stream to look almost as good as a 4k stream and a 480p stream to look HD
  • Apple Intelligence hand-off which allows any Homekit enabled device to benefit from Apple Intelligence - most likely to be useful for HomePods/HomePod Minis, but could it also be useful for things like smart thermostats and the like to let you program them by voice?
 
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Sorry what I meant is the router is in modem mode
to me that implies that your 'modem' is acting as the layer 3 router and gateway, and your ubiquiti is acting as a network bridge.

if this is the case, its almost certainly your modem/gateway in charge of delivery of mdns broadcast packets and the source of your pain.
 
Well, the October announcements came and went, the Austin Grand Prix came and went and October came and is about to go so… where TF is this thing? :confused:
I wonder if the new AirTags and Apple TV 4K are stuck in FCC certification. The rumors/leaks seemed to previously suggest that they would follow soon after the M4 releases this year.

The M4 products were leaked from the FCC just before the government shutdown, and The Verge reported yesterday that new gadgets were being delayed because the FCC has a growing backlog of devices waiting certification during the shutdown.
 
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I wonder if the new AirTags and Apple TV 4K are stuck in FCC certification. The rumors/leaks seemed to previously suggest that they would follow soon after the M4 releases this year.

The M4 products were leaked from the FCC just before the government shutdown, and The Verge reported yesterday that new gadgets were being delayed because the FCC has a growing backlog of devices waiting certification during the shutdown.

That is definitely a credible theory.

Out of interest does anyone know if any FCC leak relating to a new HomePod Mini slipped out before the government shutdown or might that be another product that could be added to this still-awaiting-FCC-certification list (if that is indeed the reason why we haven't seen any of these other rumoured products yet)?
 
That is definitely a credible theory.

Out of interest does anyone know if any FCC leak relating to a new HomePod Mini slipped out before the government shutdown or might that be another product that could be added to this still-awaiting-FCC-certification list (if that is indeed the reason why we haven't seen any of these other rumoured products yet)?
I can’t believe any FCC approvals would be outstanding so close to a product release…
 
Government shutdown started about a month ago though. It would be interesting to know how far in advance of announcement date previous FCC approvals were given.
Some of the more "medical" features have received their certifications "day of" release and/or in the window between pre-sale and actual delivery. Maybe not the same process, but certainly noteworthy in this context.
 
There are a few key features that everyone wants to appear on this new device.
Some want physical features like camera or ports, some want software updates some UX/UI most speak of sound and visual features.
I think Apple will largely please users but some will be upset their niche want was not met.
My No1 is form factor I want the HDMI Stick & will be disappointed but not surprised if I don’t get my ask.
I will buy it regardless as it will eclipse anything else in its field for what I want from it & it’s not an outrageous price at its highest. And I think that’s its appeal.
Yes a Roku or Firestick can be had for 30-60 but this will be amazing for at least around 3-5yrs.
The wait will be worth it but I wish it was over.
 
Come on people, let’s not be reaching here… lol
Yeah. It’s been clear for a while when it comes to AppleTV the focus is mass market vs. videophiles/audiophiles. It’s a great product and it wouldn’t take much to make a product superior to everything else out there, but damn it’s like they walk right up to high end territory and there is some imaginary boundary keeping them from stepping into it. I appreciate them jumping in with both feet on Dolby Vision and HDR10+, but then the audio comes and it’s “meh”. Sure, we have Atmos, but it’s no comparison to BD audio. DTS? What’s that?
 
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