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1 天前Where will they relocate it to? The UK is concentrated, the EU is fragmented
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Yes, from the ingredients they put in there. You don’t put oil in your lungs. Again, not new science.
That’s not cigarette replacement which is where the 95% reduction in harm comes from.
I only vape cannabis. I used vapes to quit smoking. I mixed my own juice and tapered off the nicotine until I found inhaling custard flavoured disco smoke unappealing.
I can’t be bothered to explain it to you:
The reality of the “delta” in harm between vaping and smoking is defined by the fundamental difference between aerosolisation and combustion. While vaping is not risk-free, major health organisations and longitudinal chemical analyses indicate that it is significantly less harmful than combustible tobacco.
- The 95% Harm Differential Public Health England and the Royal College of Physicians maintain a long-standing estimate that vaping is at least 95% less harmful than smoking tobacco.
- Toxicant Exposure: Levels of key toxicants in e-cigarette aerosols are typically more than 99% lower than those found in cigarette smoke.
- Chemical Complexity: Tobacco smoke contains over 7,000 chemicals, including 70 known carcinogens. In contrast, e-cigarette aerosol is composed of significantly fewer chemicals, primarily propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, nicotine, and flavourings.
- Biomarkers: Research shows that smokers who switch entirely to vaping have substantially lower exposure to harmful substances, with biomarker levels similar to those using medical nicotine replacement therapy (NRT).
- Combustion vs. Aerosolisation The primary reason for the harm delta is the absence of fire.
- Combustion (Smoking): Burning tobacco creates tar, carbon monoxide, and a cocktail of oxidizing agents and poisons.
- Aerosolisation (Vaping): Vaping involves heating a liquid to create a vapour without burning. Most health harms from smoking are caused by the products of combustion, not the nicotine itself.
- Potential Harms and Variables Despite the reduced risk profile, vaping introduces unique variables that can influence its safety:
- Device Performance: Toxin formation, such as the production of dihydroxyacetone (DHA) or formaldehyde, is highly dependent on device design and temperature management.
- Wicking Efficiency: Poorly saturated wicks (dry hits) or excessive wattage can cause the thermal degradation of solvents, leading to higher levels of harmful byproducts.
- Emerging Risks: While long-term data (beyond 20 years) is still being collected, some studies suggest vaping may impact lung lipid homeostasis or cardiovascular function, though these effects are generally less severe than those caused by smoking.
- Public Misperception Recent data indicates a growing “misperception gap”:
- In 2024, approximately 50% of adults incorrectly believed vaping is as or more harmful than smoking.
- By 2025, this figure rose to 56%, despite continued scientific evidence of vaping’s lower relative risk.
- Experts note that these misperceptions may prevent smokers from switching to a significantly less harmful alternative.
There is not a pulmonologist on this planet that calls vaping safer than anything.
Bollocks. Combustion mutates your cells and gives you cancer.
Those food flavourings have been cooked in ovens, which are significantly hotter than vapes, in both commercial and home use for decades. The ones that caused problems got removed. They are safe to inhale, even in commercial high use areas. This is not some new area of science.
We’ve also been pumping disco ‘smoke’ into rooms with people in for decades, any risks would have been identified. It is safe, unless you vape a stupid amount. It’s like 95x safer, but if you then vape 95x more than you smoke, then Darwinism is fine.
Inhaling smoke is a far higher cancer risk.
Quality over quantity.
The chemicals are used in food. We would know they are harmful, the same way we discovered popcorn lung…
The risk is reduced by 95%. What don’t you understand?
No, the market is in London. The button gets pushed in Paris is all.
Popcorn lung was discovered in popcorn factories, so those types of flavours are not used in vapes anymore.
These food flavourings have also been tested by billions of people when baking.
Of course, if you inhale nothing but flavoured vape juice, like the rat in the trial, then obviously it’s going to cause harm.
Vaping is not worse than smoking on any level. It’s about 95% better.
None of that says it’s worse than smoking. Smoking gives you cancer.
Some countries are bilingual. We are the only binumerate.
The profits get booked in London, the markets stay in London
I didn’t say that. I said the EU needs the UK more for access to a global financial hub. The military aspect has just become a lot more relevant.
Why is that the measure the OBR uses then?
Literally from your source lol
The OBR forecast is for a 0.27% hit to growth per year over 15 years mostly due to a loss in comparative advantage. The days of comparative advantage are over.
What’s not in the forecast is any benefit from regulating using common law, which is worth at least 0.7% extra growth per year
In 2001, Professor Paul Mahoney demonstrated that countries with legal systems based on the common law not only have more developed financial markets, but also experienced faster economic growth in the second half of the 20th century compared to civil law countries.36 Based on data from 102 countries, the analysis shows that between 1960 and 1992, the real per capita GDP growth for common law countries grew, on average, 0.71% faster than the civil law countries.
https://supremecourt.uk/uploads/speech_lord_hodge_250225_0cad343a9a.pdf
Wonder how much Putin is bunging the IOC
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/07/world/europe/russia-olympics-sports-sanctions-ukraine.html
It’s what the UK brings to the table militarily. Do you not think that’s relevant with Russian and American direction of travel?
It won’t happen. France would never let it be in Germany and vice versa.