More than a dozen food companies have urged the European Commission not to ban the use of words such as “sausage” and “burger” for non-meat products.

  • markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I think there’s a valid concern here. When fake meat technology inevitably becomes cheaper than real meat, companies will definitely try passing off fake meat as real meat or try to thin out real meat with fake meat, and will definitely try to be deceptive about it. However, I think the solution is to allow the terms sausage and burger, but require very clear labeling like requiring the term “plant-based” or “partially plant based” to be on the packaging in the same font size as the term “sausage” or “burger” if there is more than 20% plant matter included (number based on existing EU regulations for sausages). That said, IDK if this would fully stop it. In the US it would just have as little description as possible with “[Brand Name] Links” or “[Brand Name] Patties” if they weren’t allowed to say sausage or burger.

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    9 hours ago

    That is so silly. I love pork sausage but veggie sausage is the next best one and clearly is sausage.

    Same as “burger”, it is a preparation not an ingredient.

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    13 hours ago

    desperate dinosaurs are scrambling to protect their investments in the torment of animals, who knew

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    15 hours ago

    sausages are already pretty much non-meat products though, unless its actually well made sausage

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    17 hours ago

    I’m a happy meat eater and considering the number of different kinds of sausage with all different ingredients in different proportions and different textures and different herbs and spices and different skins and different sizes and different ways to prepare them I think this is absolutely ridiculous.

    If tiny dried sausages with lamb and herbs in natural skin are just as much sausage as spiced up raw mince in a plastic skin are just as much sausage as precooked hot dogs with pork and salt but mostly potato filler in mysterious edible non natural skin, then a sausage with vegetable mash for filling is definitely a sausage as well.

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      16 hours ago

      Yeah sausage is at least in my eyes a form of food. Kinda like a loaf of bread can be different types of bread so can a sausage be different meat (or not even meat at all).

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    Listen, I’m not a vegan, but I find this names that are bent around the bush so annoying.

    Yeah, I get it , it’s not literally milk. But calling it “almond milk” is waaay smoother than “almond drink” or “almond concoction” or whatever.

    Same with Malzbier.

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      17 hours ago

      The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as they have existed.

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        17 hours ago

        I agree, but that’s not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow’s milk.

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          17 hours ago

          What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life.

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      But calling it “almond milk” is waaay smoother than “almond drink” or “almond concoction”

      By having to give it a weird name those products and the sustainability argument behind it get associated with weirdness, and are less appealing to people who might otherwise consider trying them.

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      19 hours ago

      I have seen coconut milk sold as ‘coconut drink’, even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid.

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        17 hours ago

        In the case of coconut there’s both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water.

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          11 hours ago

          i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water.

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    23 hours ago

    I think the rules should be even stricter. An Hamburger should only be made in Hamburg, otherwise it’s a Minced Corpse Patty.

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    17 hours ago

    “Ground up dead body of an animal fisted into another animals anal canal”

    I mean we can just call it what it is

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    14 hours ago

    Sure, a vegi sausage is still a sausage.

    Same thing in Swiss; it’s Oat Drink, can’t be called Oat Milk. Guess the meat industry is strong in EU.

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    20 hours ago

    Sausages can be called “links”. Burgers can be called “patties”. The only people pissed about Soy Milk, Vegan Burgers and Veggie Sausages are the corporations who sell meat exclusively, and the people who don’t read food packaging. Smart vegan & vegetarians know that you need to read the ingredients before you buy that product. I always make sure I go home with the right wiener.

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      20 hours ago

      There’s definitely some bad actors in food packaging, though. In some countries, it’s insane how hard it is to differentiate between butter and some non-dairy spread at the grocery.

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      17 hours ago

      I take it a step further, I don’t just make sure that I take the right weiner home, I inspect it before I put it in my mouth. and especially give it a sniff test.

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      17 hours ago

      The other day i tried to buy an oat drink, for my coffee. I usually have a favourite brand, but i don’t care as much. It didn’t have any that i recognized, but damn the one i bought, i had to read really closely what kind of “milk” it was.

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    23 hours ago

    I couldn’t care less what you call them. You can call them vegetable dicks and I would still eat them. It’s just a ridiculous waste of resources powered by the meat lobby who have seen a portion of their market share disappear.