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What’s the context? When did he say this?
They cut off the best part of the quote.
Next election will be demorat paedophile that rapes kids above 14 years old vs MAGA paedophile that rapes any kids and libs will defend the demorat paedophile.
Spoiler the demorat’s victims are all non-white people while the MAGA’s victims have one white so is easier for the glorious American people to attack the MAGA one.
demorat paedophile
yeah well at least he’s NICE about it and isn’t rude! anyway back to brunch
Progressive-Democrat lore :
I would unironically rather have someone in office who honestly and openly wants to kill people oj an individual level than someone who pretends they don’t while implementing policies that slaughter millions
I think at the point where this is the choice, we need to overthrow the government.
Graham Platner turns every American into an Israeli
He should be sitting on a little pile of totenkopfs. Blackwaters finest.
Graham Platner is not perfect but he’s far from the violent Nazi you’re portraying him as. He represents the Democrats moving towards populism and I think that’s a good thing. He will probably advocate for a lot of reform during his campaign that he falls short on in office but he’s still an expansion of the Overton window leftward.
Doo doo ass opinion
he’s far from the violent Nazi you’re portraying him as.
Are you like, actually fucking blind? Has a Totenkopf tattoo, admits to love killing and he was a fucking guard at Abu Ghraib.
If this is what hope for America’s future is then you all deserve to suffer for it.
As someone whose family were displaced and killed by the American invasion of Iraq I want to say: Fuck you.
The fact you support people like that tells me you don’t think I’m human. Americans are scumbags.
Graham Platner is not perfect but he’s far from the violent Nazi you’re portraying him as
Im not portraying as anything, this are his words, also all the other things you are saying about Graham people said about Fetterman during his election and everyone know how that ended
Same with Zohran Mamdani too.
Did I miss something about Zohran?
liberals: he’s not a nazi bro come on bro don’t be so judgemental
graham planter: SEIG HEIL SEIG HEIL CHECK OUT MY NAZI TATTOOS I LOVE KILLING PEOPLE
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Yep, people from the Global south are “bots” and not human, just like Graham Platner believes
who in the global south would be rooting for a politican from the state of maine?
If a politician from the state of Maine said they intend to execute everyone in Congress, I might hear them out. Maybe even figure out what Maine is.
has he said that?!
because if he said that, i might want to reconsider. lol
No, this is a hypothetical based person.
that’s a pity; i would seriously reconsider him if he did that. lol
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US politics are the reason people in the global south are oppressed and dying horribly, but sorry talking about it inconveniences you i guess. privileged americans and their small issues are the only thing that matters after all.
I swear Usians are somehow always acting like self-centered poor victims while defending their system that brutalizes the Global South. Fucking despicable.
Your nazi country keep funding genocide and bombing the rest of the world, the only thing you deserved is extreme poverty and societal collapse
Why do you assume anyone against a former soldier with Nazi tattoos is a bot?
just asking why the removal?
You dehumanized people to defend a soldier with Nazi tattoos
He’s running against Susan I have concerns Collins, who is one of Trump’s greatest enablers.
.ml:
We must do everything we can to ensure Susan Collins wins again.
Americans are by and large completely hopeless
Glowies. Or edgelords. It’s the Internet so who can tell?
guys the only way we can defeat fascism is to elect more fascists in our party
trust
This is the state of US democrats right now. Literally willing to vote for an abu-ghraib torture camp candidate as a “lesser-evil”.
We must ensure Neo Nazis are accepted by the DNC and the democrat voting base as a whole! My grandpa was in the military and he only did a little bit of genocide, and it was actually good cuz it wasn’t TRUMP!! Thems the good ol days, now LET ME EAT BRUNCH DAMMIT
you are disgusting, this is what you stand for:
cw: usonian imperialism
spoiler
I personally think that any situation where people are pressed between Susan Collins and a boot that killed people for fun, we should be overthrowing the system entirely.
What if we informed Platner, a man who loves killing, that Susan Collins is old and defenseless? Would his instincts kick in? Maybe there’s another way foward, politically, for Mainenites.
She isn’t a middle-easterner, so the white-supremacist killing function doesn’t activate.
Lmao
Fun fact: This loophole is why black people weren’t allowed to run for office in the US until the 15th ammendment (or the 1960s, if we’re being honest)
And since overthrowing the system entirely is unlikely, the best course of action is to shit on whomever runs against Trump enablers.
What Trump is doing currently in the real world with the help of Susan Collins must continue.
Just for fun, I’d love to see you attempt to eviscerate the Republicans and Trump exclusively. This would be mostly to see how long before you blew a gasket and started attacking Democrats.
Overthrowing the system entirely is the only way out of the continuous stagnation and decay from imperialism and settler-colonialism. The DNC is just as much an enabler of this decay as the GOP, as both are imperialist parties. Conditions will continue to worsen as time goes on, and people will continue to abandon electoralism as a viable means of gaining necessary change. It’s either socialism or total collapse.
Just for fun, I’d love to see you attempt to eviscerate the Republicans and Trump exclusively. This would be mostly to see how long before you blew a gasket and started attacking Democrats.
What does that even mean? I hate Trump and the Republicans, why on Earth do you think pointing out where they stand aligned with the Democrats is me “blowing a gasket?” These aren’t opposed sides, they both serve the same class interests.
I don’t know how to explain to you that nonwhite people are people
Ok so imagine a burger
Now think about how there are beef burgers, chicken burgers, turkey burgers, salmon burgers, you name it.
They’re different, but they’re all burgers.
In the grill of life, people are just like burgers
I don’t know how to explain to you that nonwhite people are people
I don’t know how to get you to stop beating your wife. Women are also people.
Jfc
piefed
Ah yes, the fascist website. Thank you for letting me know to disregard you opinion
Hell yeah buddy you’re 12
I will complain about your nazi politicians as much i i want, thank you very much pieFed user
You’ve made Susan Collins very happy.
Whatever helps destroying your fascist shithole.
If it hurts Blue MAGAts too that’s a bonus and makes the rest of the world happy.
I hope she wins so you can go down the shitter faster where you belong.Me being normal: “i dont like Mussolini”
Least Fash pieFed: “You make Hitler very happy”
Least Fash pieFed: “You make Hitler very happy”
Susan Collins is running for re-election, and is an enabler of Trump’s white christian nationalist expansionist agenda. The agenda that is currently happening, and currently resulting in real deaths through acts of violence.
There’s an immediate remedy to clip Trump’s wings, which is to vote out Republicans.
Least realistic .ml user: Argle bargle, Democrats are the sux! Both sides are the same!
Graham Platner is an enabler of American white nationalist expansionist agenda. He is actually quite literally responsible for white nationalist expansionism and literally told YOU, HIS VOTER BASE, that he enjoyed doing it. Just because the person doesn’t support Trump doesn’t mean shit. He’s an American Military Neo-Nazi.
There’s an immediate remedy to clip Trump’s wings, which is to vote out Republicans.
lol, that’s so naive is kinda cute. Funny at the very least.
Can this person even see these replies now that they’re banned?
You being normal: “i dont like Mussolini”
Me on piefed: “Mussolini was a bastard and got what he deserved.”
Thats very interesting since you support a war criminal like Graham Platner
.ml’s brain breaks when it comes to electoral politics. But by your comment ratio it’s not all of us. The people that spend all their time on Graham Platner are not actually MLs. They are doomers that use leftism to praise their own moral righteousness.
Its a problem of leftist politics in general. When people are attracted to the left because they want to feel like “a good person” and not because they want to change anything. So, they get stuck in an online world of moral grandstanding.
A ML when faced with the question between Susan Collins or Graham Platner would not spend all their time focusing their efforts on attacking the candidate that is against Israel. It’s that simple.
If your a leftist because of your morals. You are not an ML. MLs care about positive material outcomes. Not grandstanding on morals who’s only material outcome is to help a Zionist candidate.
Shut the fuck up about graham Platner. We don’t live in a world where being anti veteran gets you elected. I wish we did. Then we wouldn’t have to choose an idiot like graham Platner as the better option for getting more people in government voting against funding a genocide. But that’s my priority, because I care about material outcomes.
Edit: To the MLs downvoting me. Can you tell what material outcome you are working towards by making or enjoying memes like the OP? I’ll have that discussion. But, literally just ignoring Graham even exists is literally doing more good than these memes.
The man was a professional torturer and professional terrorist. He said he took those jobs because they aligned with his passions for torture and terrorism. You can be pragmatic without becoming a cartoon that will advocate for literal satans. There are levels.
To the MLs downvoting me. Can you tell what material outcome you are working towards by making or enjoying memes like the OP?
Many of us being non-Amerikkkans get to laugh at the fact the best most left leaning electoral candidate you can manage is a guy with a giant totenkopf tattooed across his chest who was a guard at Abu fucking Gharib.
As for US people down voting and shitting on him and your opinion are, I imagine, hoping that it might push people to actual left wing third parties like PSL or if it gains enough momentum (highly unlikely) eventually Dems will stop pushing Nazis and ratcheting right even if only out of self interest but I would have more faith in Israel electing Hamas than the Dems ever listening to what their base wants.
You replied to my edit with a fantasy. So, you gave a hope of some material outcome and didn’t explain at all how you jump to that. That magically the people will move to PSL by attacks on an anti Zionist.
I’m in PSL mate. You know what most people think about him? “I don’t live in Maine. But if I did I’d vote for him over a Zionist” and then we move on and keep organizing for a protest or immigration rights training.
You know what gets most people to join PSL? It’s not trying to be “more left than thou”. It’s some dude in DSA that joined DSA because they liked Bernie Sanders and Mamdani, joined DSA, and then met PSL people at protests. That’s the normal way people find us.
The more people joining DSA, voting for antizionist, and getting involved because they see momentum. That’s how we recruit.
PSL. We are not the viable alternative to Platner. We don’t run in political races to win. We essentially use them as an advertising campaign and nothing more.
When the internet lefties spend all their time attacking an anti Zionist socdem the only material outcome of that is support for the next viable alternative to the socdem. And that, right now, is a Zionist. That’s where they go to. To the liberal Zionist that makes them feel comfortable. They don’t magically join PSL when they see some cringe post about Platner.
If you want to help PSL. Just shut the fuck up about Platner already. He’s as good as elected at this point. If he sucks and betrays his voters - cool, we don’t associate with him anyway. We don’t like him - but we’ll sure as fuck use him to recruit and spread agit-prop. Voting isn’t picking a partner in a relationship. Politicians are TOOLS for revolution - we will use them anyway we can. Stop attributing moral arguments to them. Because it’s making you imagine a fantasy as your “material outcome”.
people will move to PSL by attacks on an anti-Zionist
Most people are not fans of Nazis or paedophiles, I would hope, though maybe America is different. So when it is made abundantly clear, repeatedly and openly, that this is what bourgeois democracy offers them, people will naturally start looking for alternatives where alternatives exist. This is where the whole agitating amongst the masses is supposed to come in where PSL steps forward with the answers and alternative that moves outside the system.
I’m in PSL mate. You know what most people think about him? “I don’t live in Maine. But if I did I’d vote for him over a Zionist” and then we move on and keep organizing for a protest or immigration rights training.
You wouldn’t run your own candidate, spread your platform, and use the campaign to agitate? Then what exactly is the point of communist electoral work?
If you hooked Lenin to a generator, he could power Moscow.
Communists should not be entering bourgeois elections with the fantasy that socialism can simply be voted in. You should exclusively be entering them to expose the limits of parliamentarism, spread the communist programme, raise class consciousness, and organize people outside the electoral machine. That is Lenin 101.
You know what gets most people to join PSL? It’s not trying to be “more left than thou”. It’s some dude in DSA that joined DSA because they liked Bernie Sanders and Mamdani, joined DSA, and then met PSL people at protests. That’s the normal way people find us.
If that is the only recruitment PSL receives, then PSL is doing a far shittier job of agitation and engagement than I was led to believe.
Communists should be present among the masses with a clearer revolutionary line. Not tailing reformism or refusing to criticize social-democratic politicians because they are “better” than open Zionists.
PSL. We are not the viable alternative to Platner. We don’t run in political races to win. We essentially use them as an advertising campaign and nothing more.
Yes. Exactly. No communist party is going to become a viable electoral option under bourgeois liberal democracy simply by being morally correct. The bourgeois state, bourgeois media, bourgeois courts, bourgeois ballot laws, bourgeois funding networks, and the entire ideological apparatus are designed to prevent that.
That is why, from a communist perspective, electoral work should primarily be propaganda and agitation. It is not about pretending the imperial state can be captured by voting harder. Again, this is basic Leninism.
It makes no sense to be upset when people use the contradiction to agitate. Why is exposing the “anti-Zionist” social democrat’s imperial politics suddenly treated as harmful? If the purpose is agitation, then exposing the limits of the best acceptable candidate bourgeois democracy can produce is precisely the point.
They don’t magically join PSL when they see some cringe post about Platner.
Obviously. That is where the whole “agitation among the masses” part is supposed to come in.
Nobody thinks someone sees one post and instantly becomes a disciplined communist cadre. That is a strawman. People are won through repeated struggle, political education, organization, and direct experience with the failures of liberalism and social democracy.
When the internet lefties spend all their time attacking an anti-Zionist socdem the only material outcome of that is support for the next viable alternative to the socdem. And that, right now, is a Zionist.
It is extremely cringe how you are policing what the victims of your empire are allowed to say about the nice king versus the mean king. You are basically saying: “Please stop criticizing this imperial politician too harshly, because it makes tactical sense for people inside the imperial core to vote for him.”
This is the electoralist fantasy. You are assuming the only possible “material outcome” is movement within the Democratic electoral field: from one bourgeois candidate to another bourgeois candidate.
Yes, some liberals will run back to the Zionist because criticism of the anti-Zionist social democrat makes them uncomfortable. That is what liberals do. But communists should not determine their line by asking what makes liberals feel safest. But agitate around contradictions and organize the people who are ready to move beyond them.
If you want to help PSL. Just shut the fuck up about Platner already.
No.
If you want to help PSL, stop acting like communists should provide left cover for a bourgeois politician because he is the less disgusting expression of empire.
Voting is not picking a partner in a relationship, sure. It is a tactical question. But tactics have to be subordinated to revolutionary strategy. If your tactic requires communists to stop exposing an imperial politician, then your tactic is not using bourgeois politics. Bourgeois politics is using you.
Politicians are TOOLS for revolution - we will use them anyway we can.
Bourgeois politicians are not tools for revolution. Bourgeois elections can be used as tools for revolutionary agitation.
Communists should not prettify bourgeois politicians because they are tactically preferable to worse ones. Communists should participate in reactionary institutions when useful in order to expose them, reach the masses, and develop revolutionary consciousness beyond parliamentarism.
the MLs downvoting me. Can you tell what material outcome you are working towards by making or enjoying memes like the OP?
The same type of material outcome when Lenin would criticise and make fun of the Social Democrats in western europe.
Personally i think socialism should contain “ruthless criticism of all that exists” instead of ignoring eventhing outside your countries border, since it supposed to be an internationalist movement
You didn’t actually name a material goal or outcome. What was Lenin’s goal then? What was the world he lived in and what message was he trying to send? Do you think Lenin would spend his time attacking a socdems that wanted to stop genocide while ignoring their further right opponent?
You literally didn’t answer the question and just tried to appeal to some vague idea of “socdems bad”. You’re using Lenin like some religious figure. Like, this is not different than “Jesus said to pay taxes to Cesar” and then universally accepting that taxes should always be paid for all time and all places. You’re apparently able to read the words of Lenin. But, not actually able to apply them if all you got from reading is “socdems always bad”.
Also, to be worried about socdems you actually have to live in a world where socdems and communist are actually both viable political movements with organized power. You have to actually have a viable alternative. If you have no viable alternative then your actions of critizing socdems is only beneficial to the next viable alternative. The next viable alternative is fascism and support for Israel.
I WISH we lived in a world where I had to worry about the socdems siding with the fascist and betraying the revolution. But, holy shit mate, you don’t live in Russia in the 1910s.