An aging actress refuses to admit she is too old to play the ingénue role anymore.An aging actress refuses to admit she is too old to play the ingénue role anymore.An aging actress refuses to admit she is too old to play the ingénue role anymore.
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Marion Ross
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Brandon Beach
- Diner at Sardi's
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Paul Bradley
- Actor in Play
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James Carlisle
- Diner at Sardi's
- (uncredited)
Steve Carruthers
- Theatre Patron
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Oliver Cross
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This is reminiscent of the theatrics in "All About Eve" but with a sympathetic, light comedic twist to it. There is Ginger Rogers as Beatrice the mature, aging actress who is intent on impressing everyone with the idea that she is 29, no more, no less, and capable of taking on the new female role that's in the works. It doesn't go over too well with a young actress named Sally, played by Pat Crowley, who is willing to charge into every obstacle on her way to 'reaching the top' as an actress. She is very adept at changing her stage name to suit the occasion and meet the needs of the day.
It is great seeing Paul Douglas in top form, here as Beatrice's "ex" yet still devoted to her and her career, but sometimes he does reach the limit of his patience with her. One wonders what other fine, maturer roles he may have had in his career but unfortunately his life was cut short through illness.
William Holden as Stanley the playwright is, as ever, one handsome leading man. He gets entangled emotionally with the two actresses, not sure what to think or which way to turn.
This is an age-old comment of the times that's still prevalent in society, of women's role in life being most appealing when young but having no place when they reach "a certain age." I think these days society is more accepting of the mature, older woman, thanks to woman's lib activity of past decades as well as some outstanding actresses who have influenced opinions and flourished in their senior years, such as Angela Lansbury, Maureen O'Hara, Lauren Bacall, Joan Collins and Kate Hepburn.
It is great seeing Paul Douglas in top form, here as Beatrice's "ex" yet still devoted to her and her career, but sometimes he does reach the limit of his patience with her. One wonders what other fine, maturer roles he may have had in his career but unfortunately his life was cut short through illness.
William Holden as Stanley the playwright is, as ever, one handsome leading man. He gets entangled emotionally with the two actresses, not sure what to think or which way to turn.
This is an age-old comment of the times that's still prevalent in society, of women's role in life being most appealing when young but having no place when they reach "a certain age." I think these days society is more accepting of the mature, older woman, thanks to woman's lib activity of past decades as well as some outstanding actresses who have influenced opinions and flourished in their senior years, such as Angela Lansbury, Maureen O'Hara, Lauren Bacall, Joan Collins and Kate Hepburn.
An aging stage star tries to hold on to ingénue roles. The screenplay is by the Epstein twins (Casablanca) based on a play by Barrie (Peter Pan). Given such pedigree, this comedy falls short of expectations but it is fairly enjoyable and has witty dialog. It's helped by good acting from Rogers as the actress in denial about her advancing years, Douglas as her supportive ex-husband, and Holden (on the verge of super-stardom) as a writer. A screen shot at the end of the film touts Crowley as a future star at Paramount. She never became a star, but she went on to have a long TV career, and she is winning here as a perky young actress.
In Forever Female, Ginger Rogers is a Broadway star, still at the top of her game, but not realizing that the times are a changing. Like Norma Desmond she won't believe that there's nothing wrong with being 50 unless you try to act 25.
As this is a comedy, the consequences are not quite as tragic as they are in Sunset Boulevard. Forever Female is however Ginger's reality check.
New playwright William Holden has written a play that's got Ginger excited, a great role for her, maybe 10 to 15 years ago. She insists the role by revised from a 19 to 29 year old. She hasn't lost hold on reality that much.
There's a young ingénue on the scene who might be right for the part and she proves it in a way you have to see Forever Female to find out about. That would be Pat Crowley who was 'introduced' here. Though she never became the bright star of tomorrow, she plays a kinder, gentler Eve Harrington here. Pat Crowley's greatest success would be in the television version of Please Don't Eat the Daisies in the part Doris Day did in film.
All this is proving quite amusing to Rogers's ex-husband and producer Paul Douglas who has some of the best lines in the film.
There's nothing earth shattering about Forever Female, but it did no harm to any of the folks associated with it and still has some laughs for today's audience.
As this is a comedy, the consequences are not quite as tragic as they are in Sunset Boulevard. Forever Female is however Ginger's reality check.
New playwright William Holden has written a play that's got Ginger excited, a great role for her, maybe 10 to 15 years ago. She insists the role by revised from a 19 to 29 year old. She hasn't lost hold on reality that much.
There's a young ingénue on the scene who might be right for the part and she proves it in a way you have to see Forever Female to find out about. That would be Pat Crowley who was 'introduced' here. Though she never became the bright star of tomorrow, she plays a kinder, gentler Eve Harrington here. Pat Crowley's greatest success would be in the television version of Please Don't Eat the Daisies in the part Doris Day did in film.
All this is proving quite amusing to Rogers's ex-husband and producer Paul Douglas who has some of the best lines in the film.
There's nothing earth shattering about Forever Female, but it did no harm to any of the folks associated with it and still has some laughs for today's audience.
Charming, slight piece of entertainment sold by it top lined stars and almost scuttled by its featured player.
Ginger Rogers and Paul Douglas are most happily matched as the formerly married couple who are still best friends, a great Broadway star and her producer. Their interchanges are expertly played by two pros who are easy in each others company and really seem like they would have been together for years. Her gentle ribbing of him over back alimony is sweet and believable and actually provides a bit of insight into her character. She doesn't really expect to ever get it but neither does she ever plan to write it off either nor does she let get in the way of their relationship.
William Holden's part is secondary to the story although he is prominently featured due to his star status. He is his usual charismatic self making the minor part much better than it is. One ironic note is that in a story about Ginger Roger's character realizing she's too old for the ingénue role in Holden's play they cast an actor who is too old for his part. The playwright the way he is referenced should be in his early twenties, Holden extremely handsome and youthful though he may be is 35 if he's a day. He can't be held responsible for that since contract actors were routinely assigned parts at the studios whim.
Where the picture runs into trouble is the performance of Pat Crowley in what clearly was planned as a star making part. That didn't happen most probably due to the fact that as directed a more annoying, grating, jejune enactment of a character couldn't be possible. As she constantly proclaims that she is a great talent and better than anyone could imagine you want to push her out of the frame. The actress who did go on to some degree of fame, most notably as the star of TV's Please Don't Eat the Daisies, has proved to be an enjoyable presence elsewhere so the direction must be at fault but she really is hammy and unpleasant here.
Many fine character actors, James Gleason, Jesse White, George Reeves, Maidie Norman etc., add nice little touches throughout and hey look in one short scene its the future Mrs. C herself: Marion Ross just starting out.
A good comedy played by experts just ignore the ham-bone on the side of the action.
Ginger Rogers and Paul Douglas are most happily matched as the formerly married couple who are still best friends, a great Broadway star and her producer. Their interchanges are expertly played by two pros who are easy in each others company and really seem like they would have been together for years. Her gentle ribbing of him over back alimony is sweet and believable and actually provides a bit of insight into her character. She doesn't really expect to ever get it but neither does she ever plan to write it off either nor does she let get in the way of their relationship.
William Holden's part is secondary to the story although he is prominently featured due to his star status. He is his usual charismatic self making the minor part much better than it is. One ironic note is that in a story about Ginger Roger's character realizing she's too old for the ingénue role in Holden's play they cast an actor who is too old for his part. The playwright the way he is referenced should be in his early twenties, Holden extremely handsome and youthful though he may be is 35 if he's a day. He can't be held responsible for that since contract actors were routinely assigned parts at the studios whim.
Where the picture runs into trouble is the performance of Pat Crowley in what clearly was planned as a star making part. That didn't happen most probably due to the fact that as directed a more annoying, grating, jejune enactment of a character couldn't be possible. As she constantly proclaims that she is a great talent and better than anyone could imagine you want to push her out of the frame. The actress who did go on to some degree of fame, most notably as the star of TV's Please Don't Eat the Daisies, has proved to be an enjoyable presence elsewhere so the direction must be at fault but she really is hammy and unpleasant here.
Many fine character actors, James Gleason, Jesse White, George Reeves, Maidie Norman etc., add nice little touches throughout and hey look in one short scene its the future Mrs. C herself: Marion Ross just starting out.
A good comedy played by experts just ignore the ham-bone on the side of the action.
As an actress I have often admired Ginger Rogers. I am one of the few who think the films she made after the musicals she made with Fred Astaire are better than all that Art Deco Camp that still in some quarters has dominated her reputation. To name two only, ' Storm Warning ' and ' Tender Comrade '. She excelled as a witty serious actress, and when given the chance was riveting to watch. In this film she gives an exceptionally brave performance realising that a woman in the cold world of show business does not have to be, or should be always ' 29 '. Other people have remarked upon the certain similarities with ' All About Eve ' and there are some, especially with the main content being a new and apparently brilliant actress wanting to take her place in a stage play. This film is sexually bolder as Rogers plays a woman who unashamedly has had a sting of younger lovers with her ex-husband still very much an emotional focal point in her life. and she plays this up in many ways that Bette Davis in ' All About Eve ' could not have done. Rogers has a stronger sexual presence and shows it. The other brave aspect is her recognition that time is not on her side and the scenes where she admits that are truly moving, and without histrionics. William Holden is her latest conquest but his acting in the film does not match hers. He is also encumbered with many scenes with the aspiring young actress played very badly by Pat Crowley. She is nowhere in the same range of acting ability as Anne Baxter opposite Bette Davis. I am not sure if Irving Rapper the director was responsible but Pat Crowley was miscast and what could have been a very good film with a fine script loses much of its force and poignancy. I give it an 8 for the script itself, for Paul Douglas as the ex-husband and for the excellent Ginger Rogers.
Did you know
- TriviaSir James M. Barrie's original play, which is a short piece of less than an hour in length, dates from 1912 and is set in a small rural boarding-house "far from London", where a famous actress has elaborately disguised herself as a dowdy middle-aged type in order to escape from adoring admirers and her frantic celebrity lifestyle in the metropolis. As this indicates, this movie adaptation is a very free one.
- GoofsCrux of plot hinges on efforts of a Broadway producer and playwright to find ideal actresses to star in a play about a troubled mother/daughter relationship. Yet when the pair attends a summer stock production of the play, large poster outside theatre only includes photos of actress playing daughter and two male co-stars - completely ignoring actress who plays crucial mother role that's been talked about throughout entire film.
- Quotes
Clara Mootz aka Sally Carver: How many drinks have you had, Mr. Phillips?
E. Harry Phillips: Innumerable. And the fact that I can still say "innumerable" suggests that that's nowhere near enough!
- Crazy creditsIn the end credits, Pat Crowley is billed as "A future Paramount star".
- ConnectionsReferenced in Discovering Film: William Holden (2015)
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- 1h 33m(93 min)
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- 1.37 : 1
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