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The Octagon

  • 1980
  • R
  • 1h 43m
IMDb RATING
5.1/10
6.6K
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The Octagon (1980)
A martial artist must defeat a plan by ninjas to create a worldwide training camp for terrorists.
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A martial artist must defeat a plan by ninjas to create a worldwide training camp for terrorists.A martial artist must defeat a plan by ninjas to create a worldwide training camp for terrorists.A martial artist must defeat a plan by ninjas to create a worldwide training camp for terrorists.

  • Director
    • Eric Karson
  • Writers
    • Leigh Chapman
    • Paul Aaron
  • Stars
    • Chuck Norris
    • Karen Carlson
    • Lee Van Cleef
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  • IMDb RATING
    5.1/10
    6.6K
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Eric Karson
    • Writers
      • Leigh Chapman
      • Paul Aaron
    • Stars
      • Chuck Norris
      • Karen Carlson
      • Lee Van Cleef
    • 70User reviews
    • 62Critic reviews
    • 48Metascore
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Chuck Norris
    Chuck Norris
    • Scott James
    Karen Carlson
    Karen Carlson
    • Justine
    Lee Van Cleef
    Lee Van Cleef
    • McCarn
    Art Hindle
    Art Hindle
    • A. J.
    Carol Bagdasarian
    • Aura
    Tadashi Yamashita
    Tadashi Yamashita
    • Seikura
    Kim Lankford
    Kim Lankford
    • Nancy
    Larry D. Mann
    Larry D. Mann
    • Tibor
    Kurt Grayson
    Kurt Grayson
    • Doggo
    Richard Norton
    Richard Norton
    • Kyo - Seikura's Enforcer…
    Yuki Shimoda
    Yuki Shimoda
    • Katsumo - Seikura's Aide
    Redmond Gleeson
    Redmond Gleeson
    • Duffy
    Alan Chappuis
    • Pierre
    Brian Libby
    Brian Libby
    • Deadwyler
    Ken Gibbel
    • Meat
    Cheyenne Rivera
    • Greek
    Ted Duncan
    • Truckdriver
    Alan Marcus
    • Truckdriver
    • Director
      • Eric Karson
    • Writers
      • Leigh Chapman
      • Paul Aaron
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    User reviews70

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    5Gislef

    It grows on you...

    ...after the 500th repeat on TBS. It involves Norris in his best non-acting minimalist role. But Lee Van Cleef is having a grand ole time hamming it up in a role which seems to have nothing to do with anything. Basically, it boils down to a set piece to A) feature ninjas (they were big in the early 80's), and B) feature martial arts sequences. And...well, it features a lot of ninjas.

    The plot seems to have something to do with ninja training terrorists in some kind of summer camp for bad boys. And the head ninja has killed someone in Chuckie's past. Or...something. It's hard to tell, really. Chuck does so little "investigating" that it's hard to figure out what's going on. Nothing really leads to anything.

    The martial arts sequences are pretty fun, although you kinda wonder why ninjas (and just some of them) are running in grey robes like oversized Jawas. The main bad-ass ninja is pretty cool, and wields a mean pair of sai. And the main antagonist wields a mean pair of scythes (or whatever they're called - the Japanese term escapes me).

    But basically, Octagon is an early Norris showcase. He gets a lot of whispery flashbacks (probably the inspiration for that Airplane bit where Robert Hayes hears baseball announcers in his head), but is pretty much humorless. He does get a couple of cool fight sequences, though, so give it a looksee.
    4gridoon

    Cheap and dialogue-heavy.

    Whether you can take this film or not will depend on your tolerance for B-movies. The production is very cheap (to the point that you can barely see anything during the night scenes), and the plot is pretty vague (Is Chuck Norris playing a mercenary? An anti-terrorist expert? A former karate champion? All three?), and the fact that we can often hear his thoughts in echoing voice-over doesn't make it any more lucid. But Norris is better than usual here (at least better than anyone else in the cast), and his fighting moves are as sharp as ever. (**)
    5SnoopyStyle

    story is a mess and nobody cares

    Fighting expert Scott James (Chuck Norris) takes an interest in a dancer named Nancy. He takes her to her place where she is attacked by masked intruders. He realizes that they are ninjas although ninjas don't exist anymore. In fact, a ninja group is secretly training international terrorists in their craft. Scott encounters another damsel in distress, Justine (Karen Carlson) who is also being targeted. Meanwhile, his friend AJ (Art Hindle) has been doing his own investigating. McCarn (Lee Van Cleef) is his mentor.

    The writing is a mess, but I don't think anybody care, least of all the writers. It's a lot of contrivance, and silly stupidity. It's ninjas. They may as well call this Chuck Norris vs Ninjas. That would be a better title. The training camp is much more interesting than listening to Chuck Norris' inner whisper voice. WTF. This is Chuck camp.
    5ma-cortes

    Chuck Norris show with a lot of noisy action , thrills , intrigue and violent combats

    In a world of choices, for one man there is no choice , a hero named Scott James/Chuck Norris must face The Octagon . A martial artist expert (Chuck Norris who sports a bushy mustache in this fourth starring role in a cinema movie of action) must defeat a plan by ninjas to create a worldwide training camp for terrorists . Scott later becomes drawn closer to a vicious crime ring known as The Octagon ruled by Seikira (Yamashita) . Along the way Scott James is helped by Justine (Karen Carlson) , McCarn (Lee Van Cleef) and A. J. (Art Hindle) . At the end takes place a breathtaking combat in arena , an "octagonal training compound of the Ninja cult, a school for terrorists of all types" (the set had a 12' foot perimeter wall and was built north of Los Angeles at a location known as Indian Dunes and spanned the size of an American football field) .

    Action star Chuck Norris in this exciting picture filled with thrills , tension , suspense and violent as well as spectacular fights with high Body Count : 40 . The movie displays a plethora of martial arts fights , as Norris cleans up the nasty fighters by means of punches , kicks , bounds and leaps with struggles certainly slick . It's violent, frenetic and hectic and not particularly literary but worthy entry in Kung-Fu genre , although runs out energy surprisingly early . Average Norris-thriller , moving and tense at times with fine fight-work from Norris , Yamashita and Richard Norton . Impressive and fierce combats , as Chuck Norris kills eleven bad guys and beats up another twenty-one of them . The film belongs Norris's early period , during the 80s such as : ¨Code of silence¨ ,¨Delta Force¨ ,¨Silent rage¨ , ¨Forced vengeance¨, ¨Delta Force¨ I,II , ¨An eye for an eye¨ , among others with successful box office at cinemas and video-rentals . In the 90s and 2000s with exception of ¨Walker Texas Ranger¨, the Norris star has gone down .

    Fighting Stars Magazine ranked the climactic fight between Chuck Norris and Tadashi Yamashita as #13 on their list of the 25 greatest fight scenes of all time . A few years after this film was made and released, the word 'Octagon' later became in 1983 the name of a caged enclosure used by mixed martial arts matches and the Ultimate Fighting Championship . Nice production design , cost approximately US $200,000 to blow-up "The Octagon" major arena and fortress set. This was cheaper and more cost efficient than dismantling and disassembling the gigantic construction and taking it away to the dump . First major Ninja picture of the 1980s popular ninja movie cycle which was first released in the 1980 year before Enter the Ninja in 1981 , the 1967 You Only Live Twice and Sam Peckinpah's 1977 film The Killer elite had both previously featured ninja characters . Thrilling screenplay by Paul Aaron , in fact the movie's finale was re-written to make the climax of the film a much bigger pay-off .

    The movie featured three members of the Norris family in acting roles. These were Chuck Norris , Aaron Norris, and Chuck Norris' character of Scott James at eighteen years of age was portrayed by his real life son Mike Norris . Actor Richard Norton played dual roles in this movie , though he is completely mute and never speaks for the entire picture ; Norton portrayed both the characters of Longlegs and Seikura's enforcer Kyo . The motion picture was regularly directed by Erik Karson . This was debut theatrical feature film directed by Karson , an expert on thrillers and action movies . Action addicts will give this one a passing grade ,all others need not apply . If you're a previous Norris fans ,you'll appeal it but contains enough action and violence for enthusiastic of the Karate genre .
    3lemon_magic

    "Karen Carlson implodes across the screen as Chuck mutters to himself like a psych ward patient !!"

    I just can't see this as a review excerpt - it wouldn't draw a lot of viewers - but it sums up "The Octagon" pretty well.

    I actually would have rated this movie much lower, but the final 20 minutes, where Chuck invades the Ninja training camp and confronts his 'brother' almost saves the film. ALMOST.

    Aside from Lee Van Clief, Chuck Norris is the best actor in the film, which ought to set off warning bells in your head. Chuck does his usual stoic, quiet-spoken tough guy shtick here. He at least isn't actively annoying as an actor, and he still can move impressively when the time comes for a martial arts smack down. (One thing you can say for Norris, he did improve somewhat as an actor, and by the time 'Code Of Silence' appeared some years after this, he was considerably more expressive.) However, the screenwriter and director apparently never passed Screen Writing 101, because they make poor Chuck narrate almost every scene with intrusive whispered voice-overs (in a layered echo effect, no less) where he endlessly explains his moral dilemmas and his anguish and anger at his estranged brother...to HIMSELF...over and over again. You just aren't supposed to do this, people...you're supposed to SHOW the viewer what's going on, not TELL and TELL and TELL and TELL the viewer.

    Also, nothing against Karen Carlson personally, but at this stage in her career, she was one of the worst actresses alive. We are talking 'Hayden Christianson in Star Wars II' bad. To call her performance here 'wooden and stiff' is to insult the concepts of 'wooden' and 'stiff'. Some of this probably isn't actually her fault - she is plays an extremely contrived character with some really awful lines that she has to deliver with a straight face. I kept telling myself this, but it didn't help - every scene she was in made me want to drive to her house and leave a flaming bag of dog poop on her front porch.

    There are serious pacing problems here, too. There are moments here and there where something exciting starts to happen, but these moments are smothered in endless, tedious scenes where people stand around and emote at each other. Even the early scenes set in the ninja terrorist training camp, which were probably meant to engage the viewer and keep the interest up, bog down in stupid inane dialog and exposition.

    But, as other reviewers have mentioned, things perk up considerably in the last bit, which actually has suspense, atmosphere, and drama. In fact, it is obvious that the last 20 minutes of the film was the real point of the film, and that everything before it was just puffery and exposition. Too bad the whole movie couldn't have been like this, but I suppose that watching 2 hours of Chuck Norris infiltrating a Ninja camp would have been like playing "Metal Gear Solid" without a controller.

    3.5 stars out of 10.

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    • Trivia
      Chuck Norris' character of Scott James at eighteen years of age was portrayed by his real-life son Mike Norris.
    • Goofs
      After the terrorist trainee falls through the trapdoor, a crew person's hand is visible as it closes back up.
    • Quotes

      Scott: That's an insult to both of us. It makes me stupid and you... a whore.

    • Alternate versions
      The UK cinema version was uncut. Video releases however were cut by 32 secs by the BBFC to remove footage of nunchakus and throwing stars. The cuts were waived for the 2012 Anchor Bay DVD.
    • Connections
      Featured in At the Movies: The Slugger's Wife/Desperately Seeking Susan/The Last Dragon (1985)
    • Soundtracks
      Sad Lady
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      Music by Alan Parker

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    • Release date
      • August 15, 1980 (United States)
    • Countries of origin
      • United States
      • Mexico
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Octagón
    • Filming locations
      • Mexico
    • Production companies
      • American Cinema Productions
      • Estudios Churubusco Azteca S.A.
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    • Budget
      • $4,000,000 (estimated)
    • Gross US & Canada
      • $18,971,000
    • Gross worldwide
      • $18,971,000
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 43m(103 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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