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New Morals for Old

  • 1932
  • Passed
  • 1h 15m
IMDb RATING
5.4/10
287
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Myrna Loy, Robert Young, Margaret Perry, and Lewis Stone in New Morals for Old (1932)
DramaRomance

A single mother struggles to raise her son and daughter, who find it difficult to listen to her life lessons. They forge their own lives, and make their own mistakes as a result.A single mother struggles to raise her son and daughter, who find it difficult to listen to her life lessons. They forge their own lives, and make their own mistakes as a result.A single mother struggles to raise her son and daughter, who find it difficult to listen to her life lessons. They forge their own lives, and make their own mistakes as a result.

  • Director
    • Charles Brabin
  • Writers
    • John Van Druten
    • Zelda Sears
    • Wanda Tuchock
  • Stars
    • Robert Young
    • Margaret Perry
    • Lewis Stone
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    5.4/10
    287
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Charles Brabin
    • Writers
      • John Van Druten
      • Zelda Sears
      • Wanda Tuchock
    • Stars
      • Robert Young
      • Margaret Perry
      • Lewis Stone
    • 16User reviews
    • 3Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Robert Young
    Robert Young
    • Ralph Thomas
    Margaret Perry
    Margaret Perry
    • Phyl Thomas
    Lewis Stone
    Lewis Stone
    • Mr. Thomas
    Laura Hope Crews
    Laura Hope Crews
    • Mrs. Thomas
    • (as Laura Hope Crewes)
    Myrna Loy
    Myrna Loy
    • Myra
    David Newell
    David Newell
    • Duff Wilson
    Jean Hersholt
    Jean Hersholt
    • James Hallett
    Ruth Selwyn
    Ruth Selwyn
    • Estelle
    Kathryn Crawford
    Kathryn Crawford
    • Zoe Atkinson
    Louise Closser Hale
    Louise Closser Hale
    • Mrs. Warburton
    Mitchell Lewis
    Mitchell Lewis
    • Bodvin
    Elizabeth Patterson
    Elizabeth Patterson
    • Aunty Doe
    Lillian Harmer
    Lillian Harmer
    • Alice - the Maid
    Jay Eaton
    Jay Eaton
    • Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Bess Flowers
    Bess Flowers
    • Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Arthur Hoyt
    Arthur Hoyt
    • Art Student
    • (uncredited)
    Gus Leonard
    • Art School Concierge
    • (uncredited)
    Paul Porcasi
    Paul Porcasi
    • Concierge
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Charles Brabin
    • Writers
      • John Van Druten
      • Zelda Sears
      • Wanda Tuchock
    • All cast & crew
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    6mgmax

    Telling example of pre-Code morality

    Though hardly an example of pre-Code films at their raciest, the matter-of-fact treatment of looser sexual mores in this family drama may reveal more about its times than a more exploitative film would. A few years later Lewis Stone, the father here, would play the father of the most straightlaced and retrograde family in movie history (Andy Hardy's); yet here he is shown as accepting the idea that his son would go off to Paris to be an artist (and be shown breakfasting the next morning with his female neighbor, in pajamas) and that his daughter would have an affair with a married man, musing to his wife that they just have to get used to the different morals of different times. No masterpiece, but a sweet and enjoyable film that may remind you of James Ivory's Mr. and Mrs. Bridge.
    6boblipton

    The Kids Are All Right

    Lewis Stone and Laura Hope Crewes are a couple of old fuddy-duddies. They worry about their children, Robert Young and Margaret Perry. They seem to spend all their time in speakeasies, and Young doesn't pay attention to business as he ought to. Then Stone dies, and Young busts loose in Paris, intent on becoming a painter, and meeting exotic Myrna Loy, who turns out to be American. Miss Perry brings home a man, and Miss Crewes suggests separate bedrooms, for propriety's sake. They say no.

    In title and attitudes, this is pretty much a pre-code movie, but being MGM, and based on a play by John van Druten, is it going to be as wild as it sounds at the beginning? This is pretty much second-string MGM, with Young announcing he wants to run barefoot through Miss Loy's hair. Well, who can blame him?
    worley1

    Who played George Macintosh?

    There was a young man who was in two scenes in this movie that is uncredited, and I am trying to find out who he was. He had lines in both of his scenes. He appears first in the scene where Robert Young's character arrives in Paris at the art studio, just as the class is ending. The character/actor I am asking about was introduced as George Macintosh. He is short, young, dark haired, quite handsome, smiles a lot, and introduces Robert Young to the disinterested head of the art studio.
    5AlsExGal

    the circle of life precode style

    This is a very ordinary precode involving the wealthy Thomases. The parents (Lewis Stone and Laura Hope Crews) are worried about their two grown children. Son Ralph (Robert Young) as well as daughter Phyl (Margaret Perry) are taken to partying every night and sleeping until noon. Ralph's individual demon is that he fancies himself more than a designer of wallpaper at the family business - he wants to go to France and become a great artist. Phyl's problem is that she is in love with a married man (David Newell as Duf) whose wife won't let him go. Both kids wind up doing what they want to do in spite of their parents' objections. Ralph does go to France to study art. Phyl sets up house with Duf with no hope of marriage in sight. So far this is an extraordinarily ordinary precode. So what makes it worthwhile? For one, one kid winds up with their hopes dashed the other gets their wish. Which one triumphs and which one does not and how this happens is the unexpected part. Also very interesting is a tryst Ralph has with a French neighbor when he is in Paris. That neighbor happens to be played by Myrna Loy and the nature of the tryst is what is so unexpected. In one scene she is complaining about the noise Ralph is making. In the next scene it is the next morning and she and Ralph are bouncing around in their pajamas! What's more we never see the French girl again in Ralph's life. How realistic that not every sexual encounter leads to either tragedy or the altar, which is something that would never be allowed in the production code era.

    The ending is warm although abrupt as the kids grow a few years older and seem to be gradually becoming their parents. Plus both kids grow a genuine appreciation for Aunty Doe (Elizabeth Patterson), someone they ridiculed just a few years before as silly and out of touch.

    This one is an OK time passer, but there really is nothing out of the ordinary to distinguish it from other precodes of the era other than the chance to see two stars just starting out - Myrna Loy and Robert Young - and one star of the stage making a rare film appearance - Margaret Perry.
    4mzcuriouz-108-272670

    Sibling incest in the closet!

    Phyl and her brother Ralph's bedroom play is so 30s flirty;) The Paris goodbye kiss is so smoldering hot. Tennessee Williams would love this so forbidden sexiness. The screenplay was based on the play "After All" by John Van Druten, author of "I Am A Camera" which was the basis of the musical "Cabaret". (I wonder what was left on the editing room floor.) What happened with Myra? There so many unanswered questions raised that it is not truly as predictable as it seems. All in all I consider it more of naughty tease. I was glad I could fast forward what was most totally predictable...and enjoy the fun of the queerness of it "After All".

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    • Trivia
      Donald Cook was injured in an automobile accident soon after the production had started, and was replaced by David Newell in the role of Duff Wilson.
    • Quotes

      Mr. Thomas: Oh, I hate a pun. That is the lowest form of wit.

    • Connections
      Featured in Myrna Loy: So Nice to Come Home to (1990)
    • Soundtracks
      Good Night Sweetheart
      (1931) (uncredited)

      Music by Ray Noble

      Lyrics by Jimmy Campbell and Reginald Connelly

      Whistled by Robert Young

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    Details

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    • Release date
      • June 4, 1932 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • English
      • French
    • Also known as
      • After All
    • Filming locations
      • Immanuel Presbyterian Church - 3300 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, California, USA(church at beginning of film.)
    • Production company
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 15m(75 min)
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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