Empires: The Greeks - Crucible of Civilization
- TV Mini Series
- 2000
- 2h 30m
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A documentary, narrated by actor Liam Neeson, that chronicles the rise and fall of the civilization of ancient Greece.A documentary, narrated by actor Liam Neeson, that chronicles the rise and fall of the civilization of ancient Greece.A documentary, narrated by actor Liam Neeson, that chronicles the rise and fall of the civilization of ancient Greece.
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Another well put together PBS documentary. And it certainly doesn't hurt to have Liam Neeson narrate. I certainly learned more in this documentary about the rise and fall of Greek civilization than I recall from school.
A great documentary for the ancient Greeks.The history of the people who gave democracy and culture to all the world.Liam Neeson narrate how was the life of the most clever people in the world:Greeks.It is very interesting to know how Greeks create democracy and this film gives us the chance.Every people who wants to learn about the beginning of the history must see this documentary.Do not forget that Greeks are the oldest nation in the entire world!
The production for this series, judging from episode 3, is rather poor, despite having star Liam Neeson narrating. The sets are dull, with great historical figures like Pericles and Socrates portrayed as a sort of wax actor or CGI portrait that is filmed from different angles while being still. These images are reused many times, adding boredom to the already dull and rudimentary CGI.
Pacing is slow, with lots of scenic shots of the Acropolis and other historical sites, but the amount of actual greek footage is quite limited, shots are unimaginative and reused abundantly. The text is grandiloquent but never poignant; historically it seems superficial to me, but I am not an expert. I came to see more about the life and times of Socrates, but the philosophy themes are more superficial than the historical ones. It seems the producers have only a very basic knowledge of greek philosophy. Quotes are misattributed, for example, sayings are attributed directly to Socrates, who never wrote, and Plato, who made him a character in his philosophical dialogues, is never mentioned.
So the philosophical themes are very bland. Also I've been in the places and I made better shots than the ones that can be seen in this program. That some people find this "enlightening" really makes me think that the standards for American history shows are quite low.
Pacing is slow, with lots of scenic shots of the Acropolis and other historical sites, but the amount of actual greek footage is quite limited, shots are unimaginative and reused abundantly. The text is grandiloquent but never poignant; historically it seems superficial to me, but I am not an expert. I came to see more about the life and times of Socrates, but the philosophy themes are more superficial than the historical ones. It seems the producers have only a very basic knowledge of greek philosophy. Quotes are misattributed, for example, sayings are attributed directly to Socrates, who never wrote, and Plato, who made him a character in his philosophical dialogues, is never mentioned.
So the philosophical themes are very bland. Also I've been in the places and I made better shots than the ones that can be seen in this program. That some people find this "enlightening" really makes me think that the standards for American history shows are quite low.
I recently watched two exceptional mini-series on both the Spartans and the Athenians for PBS with Bettany Hughes. I cannot imagine making a show about the Greeks any better. Can this documentary (also brought to us by PBS) manage to be as good or better? In some ways, the series is exceptional. It has a more cinematic style and lovely music. However, it also lacked some excitement and could have used more energy. In particular, while Liam Neeson is a fine actor and probably a heck of a guy, his delivery as narrator is a bit too refined and smooth--almost, at times, lulling me to sleep with his lovely voice. Or, perhaps having several narrators with different voices would have been nice. All I know is that although it's a wonderful and quality series, it is, oddly, too refined--too nice. I might have liked more odd or salacious details or interesting vignettes as well--something to infuse a bit more realism and life into the shows. I also hated when one of the commentators used the word 'milieu'. 99% of the viewers probably never use the word and most of them probably have no idea what it means! Overall, I think I prefer Hughes less refined but more interesting style.
Although IMDb lists one season, when you click this link, it only shows one program. It actually consisted of three and below is a general idea of what episode entails.
Episode 1--This is the early history of Greece (but not discussing the earliest period, such as that of the Minoans)--when the city-states were on the rise (around 600BC). Sparta was the big Greek power but this VERY important state was not really talked about much. Instead, almost all the thrust is on Athens and other city-states were only mentioned in general. Initially, Athens was ruled by Aristos (a small group of the richest citizens) and tyrants and was not yet a major power. However, when Athens institutes democracy, the power and prestige of the city grows. The only odd thing in the episode is a quote from Aristotle about these early leaders--though they lived hundreds of years before he was born (and it sounded as if he was commenting on something about which he had direct knowledge). Usually, they tend to use contemporary accounts in documentaries (they are more reliable--and Aristotle, unfortunately, isn't that reliable in some of his writings).
Episode 2--This is the classical period of Athens. It begins with Battle of Marathon (versus Persia) and takes them to other Persian wars. There is a big emphasis on the rise of the Athenian navy. Also the serious flaw with Athenian democracy--the abuse of ostracisms--as they occurred to ANYONE who was famous or powerful. Following victories, the famous period in Athens began and philosophy and the sciences flourished. There is a discussion of two of the great Athenian leaders, Themistocles and Pericles. For the most part, everything is just ducky for the Athenians but the closing minutes indicate big things are in the near future.
Episode 3--This episode concerns the fall of Athens. After having grown so fast, the city-state became overconfident and took on the Spartans. More abuses of the democracy served to weaken them significantly, as generals, intellectuals and leaders could be executed or banished at the whims of the masses. Plagues and military setbacks also hindered them. However, the big tipping point came with Sparta and their new ally, the hated Persians--but this was, inexplicably, not talked about in the show. Instead, a HUGE portion of part three is on the death of Socrates--and then the show ends (very prematurely if you ask me as MANY more years of wars and chaos ensued during the Peloponnesian War). Could funding have run out and it was intended to be longer and more complete?! One odd thing was said in this third show: "...here it gave every Athenian citizen the right to have a say...". This is and isn't true. It did NOT give the right to women or slaves or children--so only about 1/3 (at most) of the people had a say in governing the city-state.
One final note. While the show is supposedly about the Greeks, it really is ONLY about the Athenians. The Spartans are minor characters (almost faceless bad guys) and the rest of Greece is only mentioned in passing. Because of this, the title of the show is inaccurate and it should have been something like "The Rise and Fall of Ancient Athens" or "The Ancient Greek World...But Mostly Athens".
Although IMDb lists one season, when you click this link, it only shows one program. It actually consisted of three and below is a general idea of what episode entails.
Episode 1--This is the early history of Greece (but not discussing the earliest period, such as that of the Minoans)--when the city-states were on the rise (around 600BC). Sparta was the big Greek power but this VERY important state was not really talked about much. Instead, almost all the thrust is on Athens and other city-states were only mentioned in general. Initially, Athens was ruled by Aristos (a small group of the richest citizens) and tyrants and was not yet a major power. However, when Athens institutes democracy, the power and prestige of the city grows. The only odd thing in the episode is a quote from Aristotle about these early leaders--though they lived hundreds of years before he was born (and it sounded as if he was commenting on something about which he had direct knowledge). Usually, they tend to use contemporary accounts in documentaries (they are more reliable--and Aristotle, unfortunately, isn't that reliable in some of his writings).
Episode 2--This is the classical period of Athens. It begins with Battle of Marathon (versus Persia) and takes them to other Persian wars. There is a big emphasis on the rise of the Athenian navy. Also the serious flaw with Athenian democracy--the abuse of ostracisms--as they occurred to ANYONE who was famous or powerful. Following victories, the famous period in Athens began and philosophy and the sciences flourished. There is a discussion of two of the great Athenian leaders, Themistocles and Pericles. For the most part, everything is just ducky for the Athenians but the closing minutes indicate big things are in the near future.
Episode 3--This episode concerns the fall of Athens. After having grown so fast, the city-state became overconfident and took on the Spartans. More abuses of the democracy served to weaken them significantly, as generals, intellectuals and leaders could be executed or banished at the whims of the masses. Plagues and military setbacks also hindered them. However, the big tipping point came with Sparta and their new ally, the hated Persians--but this was, inexplicably, not talked about in the show. Instead, a HUGE portion of part three is on the death of Socrates--and then the show ends (very prematurely if you ask me as MANY more years of wars and chaos ensued during the Peloponnesian War). Could funding have run out and it was intended to be longer and more complete?! One odd thing was said in this third show: "...here it gave every Athenian citizen the right to have a say...". This is and isn't true. It did NOT give the right to women or slaves or children--so only about 1/3 (at most) of the people had a say in governing the city-state.
One final note. While the show is supposedly about the Greeks, it really is ONLY about the Athenians. The Spartans are minor characters (almost faceless bad guys) and the rest of Greece is only mentioned in passing. Because of this, the title of the show is inaccurate and it should have been something like "The Rise and Fall of Ancient Athens" or "The Ancient Greek World...But Mostly Athens".
Liam Neeson has such a wonderful voice. What a grand man he is.
I'm sure this documentary is good for some people but I'm not the audience for this movie. Series. Whatever it is. They reuse a LOT of footage that they shot; like, actors in their costumes. It just loses its flair after the 4th time I've seen that man in that costume point over there four times.
I'm sure this documentary is good for some people but I'm not the audience for this movie. Series. Whatever it is. They reuse a LOT of footage that they shot; like, actors in their costumes. It just loses its flair after the 4th time I've seen that man in that costume point over there four times.
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