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Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen

  • 2003
  • Not Rated
  • 1h 21m
IMDb RATING
7.2/10
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Der Wald vor lauter Bäumen (2003)
Drama

As an awkward idealistic high school teacher begins her first job in the city, things turn out to be much tougher than she had imagined.As an awkward idealistic high school teacher begins her first job in the city, things turn out to be much tougher than she had imagined.As an awkward idealistic high school teacher begins her first job in the city, things turn out to be much tougher than she had imagined.

  • Director
    • Maren Ade
  • Writer
    • Maren Ade
  • Stars
    • Eva Löbau
    • Daniela Holtz
    • Jan Neumann
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  • IMDb RATING
    7.2/10
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    • Director
      • Maren Ade
    • Writer
      • Maren Ade
    • Stars
      • Eva Löbau
      • Daniela Holtz
      • Jan Neumann
    • 21User reviews
    • 20Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    • Awards
      • 6 wins & 3 nominations total

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    Eva Löbau
    Eva Löbau
    • Melanie Pröschle
    Daniela Holtz
    • Tina Schaffner
    Jan Neumann
    • Thorsten Rehm
    Ilona Christina Schulz
    • Frau Sussmann
    Robert Schupp
    Robert Schupp
    • Tobias
    Heinz Röser-Dümmig
    • Lutger Reinhardt
    Martina Eckrich
    • Renate Pföhler
    Nina Fiedler
    • Bine
    Hans-Rüdiger Kucich
    • Gerd Postweiler
    Ruth Köppler
    • Elvira Fischer-Walter
    Achim Enchelmaier
    • Bernd
    Monika Hirschle
    • Melanies Mutter
    Volker Jeck
    • Melanies Vater
    Hans-Peter Gastiger
    • Recycler
    Andreas Bornhardt
    • Garden Center Worker
    Violetta Breuer
    • Neighbor
    Siegfried Schneider
    • Herr Meiser
    • Director
      • Maren Ade
    • Writer
      • Maren Ade
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    8malindameegoda-2

    Unique

    This is certainly an interesting film. I discovered this film by accident at my local blockbuster store.At first as another viewer had mentioned found it difficult to get used to the camera format at first. The movie experience was almost like getting sucked into a novel possibly a modern day Camus perhaps.The story also perhaps was focusing on the lack of a social support structure in modern societies. The alienation and loneliness is realized through the character of Melanie in depth. The ending was open to interpretation by the viewer and i am guessing that she is moving on from her teaching position to one which might be more fulfilling. Overall a good job.
    jm10701

    Very effective depiction of a sociopath

    Melanie's problem isn't that she's lonely and lacks social skills, or that other people refuse to reach out and help her; it's that she's a sociopath. Here's the dictionary definition of a sociopath: "A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse."

    Melanie lies constantly; she almost never tells the truth even when there's no good reason not to, as when asked what her plans are for the evening or the holidays.

    She aggressively invades other people's lives with no sense of interpersonal boundaries, of other people's right to live their own lives without her. She invades social gatherings to which she has been told she is not invited, and she shuns those to which she HAS been invited. She stalks, spies, listens outside doors and windows, pushes her way into other people's houses.

    She never sees anything wrong in her OWN behavior - the problem is always somebody else's failure to give her what she needs. She is entirely consumed by her own needs and completely blind to anyone else's needs. She has no business teaching children. She needs intensive psychiatric treatment.

    She does NOT need for other people to be more compassionate toward her. They ARE compassionate, but she either rejects them because she finds them unattractive (Thorsten) or pursues them and violates their privacy so aggressively (Tina) that she kills their compassion.

    None of these are signs of a normal but shy person, or of a person who simply hasn't had much practice socializing with other people. These are signs of a person with a serious, deep-rooted and potentially dangerous personality disorder. The fact that even her own mother doesn't want to talk to her shows that her behavior problems did NOT suddenly begin when she moved to Karlsruhe and her new job.

    She needs a good shrink, not friends. In her present state, she's incapable of friendship or any other normal personal relationship.

    This is a very good movie, because I and nearly every other reviewer - even those who give the movie bad ratings - relate to Melanie as if she is a real person. Like it or not, this movie does what movies are supposed to do: create a world which the viewer experiences as real.
    9Eschete

    Ouch. A Painful FIlm to Watch.

    Eva Loebau plays Melanie, an almost socially retarded young teacher who moves to Karlsruhe to begin her career. Her shyness and painfully embarrassing inability to read people makes for one social and career error after another.

    She awkwardly befriends a hip and attractive neighbor and then, with her pathetic neediness and constant visits (not to mention her failure to understand subtle interpersonal cues) drives the neighbor to hate her. This, coupled with her legion of problems at work, precipitates Melanie's mental breakdown.

    The subject matter, direction, and Loebau's acting makes the film VIBRATE with unease and tension which makes parts of the film almost impossible to watch. Add to this the fact that it was shot on video, giving it a "you are there" realism, and you may need a shot of homemade schnapps to keep from squirming.

    A.
    6ArizWldcat

    Realistic and riveting

    "The Forest For the Trees" tells the story of Melanie, a young woman who sets off for a job as a teacher in the big city. She is idealistic and thinks (as most new teachers do)that she knows more than the experienced teachers because she has just come from college and she knows "new" techniques, when experience is the ONLY teacher. But I digress...Eva Loebau does a marvelous job portraying Melanie, who can constantly be counted on to say the wrong thing, both in her professional and in her personal life! We watched and cringed as Melanie made faux pas after faux pas, never seeming to learn, and being too proud to ask for help! As to the ending, the director (we saw this at a Sundance screening, and the director came up on stage for Q and A afterward) said that the end was meant to be more symbolic than literal. I didn't really think there would be another credible way to end the story, and thought that the director did an awesome job in this, her first film.
    8ReganRebecca

    Painful

    I've seen all of Maren Ade's film as of this writing in 2016 and I don't think she's made a bad, or even middling one yet. The Forest for the Trees is her absolutely astonishing debut and immediately showcases her style and strengths.

    First of all this isn't a "beautiful" film. Made as a student thesis you can see it was filmed on the cheap on video so the images will never really bowl you over (with a few exceptions). Where Ade's strength lies is in uncovering the hellish situations in reality. She first introduces us to Melanie Pröschle, a sweet, but goofy school teacher who is moving to a new (small) city to teach grade school students. Feeling alone in her apartment building she quickly spies her neighbour Tina Schaffner, and sets about trying to befriend her, which goes in awkward fits and starts as Melanie is socially awkward and doesn't seem to understand boundaries and is constantly confused as to whether her new friend really likes her or not. At first, the tensions between Melanie and Tina seem like the normal awkward pains that happen when adults struggle to make new friendships, but as the movie wears on, and Melanie's professional life flies further out of control, she places greater and greater importance on Tina and her friendship leading to increasingly disturbing encounters between them.

    It is an incredibly painful movie to watch because I'm sure everyone has experienced each side of the coin of being a Melanie or a Tina and this movie presents the worst of both worlds. It also features one of the best endings I've ever seen in a movie, and the final shot will stick in my mind for a long time.

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      The school scenes were shot at the school where the director's mother was teaching. Both of her parents are teachers.
    • Connections
      References Baywatch (1989)
    • Soundtracks
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    • Release date
      • January 27, 2005 (Germany)
    • Country of origin
      • Germany
    • Language
      • German
    • Also known as
      • The Forest for the Trees
    • Filming locations
      • Baden-Baden, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
    • Production companies
      • Komplizen Film
      • Südwestrundfunk (SWR)
      • KaufmannWöbke GbR
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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $1,410
    • Gross worldwide
      • $1,410
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 21m(81 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby SR
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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