73 reviews
- josephdonald316
- May 8, 2013
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Now sorry about the spoiler, but why in the name of GOD didn't they just take blood from one of the other 72 guys and had to be from Khan????? just plain stupid... do those script writers ever read carefully what they write???
On other terms the movie had potential,
but they ruined it with non star trek thinking. Why would the admiral need Kirk firing those missiles onto Khronos to destroy Khan's crew who was in cryogenic sleep? He could have just cremated them, why risk so much with no reason whatsoever?
And how could Khan finish so many klingons with so little effort and had so much trouble with Spock? And on top of that, how could Scotty stun him (true:for a shot period) while Uhura fired countless stuns at him and got nowhere?
And those above are only examples...if you look carefully you'll find tons of non star trek thinking in this movie! THIS EPISODE SHOULD NEVER BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE STAR TREK WORLD!!!
On other terms the movie had potential,
but they ruined it with non star trek thinking. Why would the admiral need Kirk firing those missiles onto Khronos to destroy Khan's crew who was in cryogenic sleep? He could have just cremated them, why risk so much with no reason whatsoever?
And how could Khan finish so many klingons with so little effort and had so much trouble with Spock? And on top of that, how could Scotty stun him (true:for a shot period) while Uhura fired countless stuns at him and got nowhere?
And those above are only examples...if you look carefully you'll find tons of non star trek thinking in this movie! THIS EPISODE SHOULD NEVER BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE STAR TREK WORLD!!!
From the writers that brought you Prometheus and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen comes an all new...Nope, wait, it's just bits of old story plus some hackneyed ideas. Incredible lack of imagination on show here, not that I could see much beyond the flares going off (Seriously, no one would be able to work on that bridge without sunnies). Perhaps either Spock could explain the logic of ripping off scenes that fans adore and will be annoyed by, just to show the same things to a bunch of people who couldn't care less? Certain story lines work because they are handled with care and because audiences have invested time in the characters. This crew, as yet, mean nothing to me. I've never had a chance to care for them because they spend most of the time running or jumping long distances. The emotions only work if you think back to the original films and that bridge is too wide. You can't tear up what went before and then expect to trade on the pieces. Aside from the names involved this iteration shares almost none of the DNA or ideals of the original series, and just sticking in a few references to the Prime Directive does not change that. And just how crap was the Peter Weller character? He might as well have started talking slang. P.S. Don't be surprised to find out Chewbacca is a wookiesexual and 3PO turns out to have been infused with the Emporer's DNA in Ep. 7. It's the right style for this guy (as his early Superman treatment confirms)...
- authormonicaburns
- May 20, 2013
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I have just had the misfortune of spending 25 Quid to watch the Starship Enterprise ethos raped in 3D by a bunch of producers scriptwriters and other low caliber Hollywood executives so devoid of bold ideas that the only place they could search for inspiration was up each others asses. This is a film in which the last scene should have been the first. Instead the scene is used as an apology and promises it will do the right thing next time. It suggests that order has been reinstated and it will be boldly going somewhere next time. By why not this time? why was it necessary to pick the skeleton of a million other action movies and turn Star Treck into a predictable good guy discovers treachery inside the firm movie. A thousand plots on the banking system would have made a better story than this. Why does the crew of the Enterprise go around shooting like they are LA cops and why does Spock has to have an action sequence when a simple grip of the upper shoulder has always been adequate to maintain his superior power. Meddling with the DNA of any brand is a dangerous avenue and when seemingly intelligent decision makers see it fit to use 9/11 as an appropriate way to provoke sentimentality or even attempting to Americanize the context of Enterprise then you know that these guys can only ever look for ideas up their own asses, because clearly their brains are devoid of intelligent thought.
- constantine-689-32068
- May 17, 2013
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Here's my guide to evaluating movies. Call it the Bruce Willis criteria. No offense to Bruce - I like him and his works.
* If you can replace main hero with Bruce Willis (as seen in Die Hard) and it doesn't do much harm to the plot, you got yourself a modern mindless action movie. *
And unfortunately Into The Darkness is just it - lot's of special effects, action scenes and a very little soul.
It definitely doesn't bring any good feelings that series had to offer.
The saddest part about it all is that no one seems to care. People rate movie high, just because it entertains them enough with jokes and visual effects, companies get their revenue.
This means there're gonna be more movies utilizing the same old formula: good guys vs. bad guys, world domination as a motivation for villain + superhero that saves the day.
* If you can replace main hero with Bruce Willis (as seen in Die Hard) and it doesn't do much harm to the plot, you got yourself a modern mindless action movie. *
And unfortunately Into The Darkness is just it - lot's of special effects, action scenes and a very little soul.
It definitely doesn't bring any good feelings that series had to offer.
The saddest part about it all is that no one seems to care. People rate movie high, just because it entertains them enough with jokes and visual effects, companies get their revenue.
This means there're gonna be more movies utilizing the same old formula: good guys vs. bad guys, world domination as a motivation for villain + superhero that saves the day.
- undsoft-693-842796
- May 22, 2013
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An old WWII movie on TV just now had the lines, "Just think about the peaceful past," "I've almost forgotten it." Right.
Went to see a Star Trek movie and a sequel to the last one, which I recollect as alright. Hollywood, though has not only forgotten the peaceful past, the Rodenberry vision that set Trek part from any other space operas. They've deliberately hijacked the characters, made them into a terrorist sleeper cell now activated in our midst to bring us explosions, Star Fleet on steroids, Spock jumping from the roof of one in-flight vehicle to another to show us he's not really that intellectual wuss Hollywoood hates-- he's a tough street fighter--get ,im, Spock!
All 3D and action clichés, no ideas or vision, cartoon characters not worth...no wait, this is no accident or lazy business. The terrorists are on the bridge and they're going to land this ship where they damn well planned to--straight down the lowest common denominator path, shearing off the tops of buildings, sucking the wallets out of the pockets of customers satisfied with overpriced popcorn special effects, and landing right in the money. Kaboom.
If you want big popcorn, go get it.
Went to see a Star Trek movie and a sequel to the last one, which I recollect as alright. Hollywood, though has not only forgotten the peaceful past, the Rodenberry vision that set Trek part from any other space operas. They've deliberately hijacked the characters, made them into a terrorist sleeper cell now activated in our midst to bring us explosions, Star Fleet on steroids, Spock jumping from the roof of one in-flight vehicle to another to show us he's not really that intellectual wuss Hollywoood hates-- he's a tough street fighter--get ,im, Spock!
All 3D and action clichés, no ideas or vision, cartoon characters not worth...no wait, this is no accident or lazy business. The terrorists are on the bridge and they're going to land this ship where they damn well planned to--straight down the lowest common denominator path, shearing off the tops of buildings, sucking the wallets out of the pockets of customers satisfied with overpriced popcorn special effects, and landing right in the money. Kaboom.
If you want big popcorn, go get it.
That's what this one is all about and that is unfortunate because throughout its history the franchise was always more about the story, thoughtful and thought provoking, with meaningful dialog, well developed characters and a great plot. Sure, there was always some action but the action was there with the purpose of advancing the plot and it was never the central tenant of the whole structure.
This installment is all about endless, spectacular action, the plot is nearly non-existent and the skull is numb after wards making you wonder what exactly is it now about the Star Trak that makes it unique, makes it stand out from all the other action packed movies and franchises? What? As it is, absolutely nothing...
In short, JJ Abrams managed to destroy something good and I'm sure he'll be remembered for, something I'm sure he'll be proud of.
This installment is all about endless, spectacular action, the plot is nearly non-existent and the skull is numb after wards making you wonder what exactly is it now about the Star Trak that makes it unique, makes it stand out from all the other action packed movies and franchises? What? As it is, absolutely nothing...
In short, JJ Abrams managed to destroy something good and I'm sure he'll be remembered for, something I'm sure he'll be proud of.
- netizenk-252-163866
- Aug 25, 2013
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- dsphipps100
- May 25, 2013
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what they have turned star trek into is unfortunately a disgrace to the series. they have no idea about technology, diplomacy, war, the races or anything that made the series great. they just can do a lot of special effects, 'cool-looking' scenes, cheap lines, cliché emotional drama and fighting scenes. all of it orchestrated with the music. this is done as you would expect it if someone really focuses on that. so those aspects are not bad, there is just a lot left to desire. but if you don't mind getting only all of what i just mentioned and really nothing more then go ahead and see it. but if you want to use your brain while watching you will be disappointed. even more so if you are a fan of the series. the display of the klingons was ridiculous, they just posed as the evil-looking enemy for a fighting scene. the characters and the relationship between them feel flat and boring. the actors try to be very dramatic which makes it unbelievable for me. this combined with their cheap lines and trying to be humorous at some points make it feel forced. the story is very easy to follow, not much to process there. it has a lot of holes that are immediately visible. of course only if you are used to really concentrate on a movie on different levels.
just don't expect star trek if you are going to see this movie. what you get is a space-drama combined with some aspects of star trek. calling it dumbed down would be accurate in my opinion. but i don't judge. different people want and expect different things. but what the star trek fans expect is probably not there.
it's as if the movie follows a guide-book or a check-list for standard action movies.
though i have to admit that i didn't really like the star trek series when mr. kirk was the lead. maybe they tried to remake that part of the series, i don't know. i just know it's not for me.
just don't expect star trek if you are going to see this movie. what you get is a space-drama combined with some aspects of star trek. calling it dumbed down would be accurate in my opinion. but i don't judge. different people want and expect different things. but what the star trek fans expect is probably not there.
it's as if the movie follows a guide-book or a check-list for standard action movies.
though i have to admit that i didn't really like the star trek series when mr. kirk was the lead. maybe they tried to remake that part of the series, i don't know. i just know it's not for me.
- unbekannternutzer
- Aug 19, 2013
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I'm a huge Star Trek fan and with a few exceptions I enjoyed most of Into Darkness while I watched it. There were a few scenes that try to call back to previous Star Trek movies, and one in particularly is howlingly bad. I actually laughed in the middle of the theater when the big emotional climax of the movie was happening because it just was so cheesy compared to its inspiration.
There are plot holes galore. No need for me to go into detail on them but needless to say some of the things that happen in this movie are just stupid and make no sense. Without giving anything away, it seems that both Starfleet and the Klingons have very lax security protocols because people keep sneaking into places way too easily.
Also, while I love the look of the Enterprise and its bridge, the overall production design doesn't give a sense that all these places that supposedly are on the same ship, are actually, you know, on the same ship. Engineering is this gigantic open vaguely industrial space, with nothing in common with the design of the bridge or hallways. Nobody walks from a hallway, through a door and into engineering. They go through a hallway and then after a cut they're in engineering. I'm all for giving the innards of the ship a more industrial or lived-in feel but they just don't feel like they're actually on the ship. The warp core is yet another room with lots of metal and dangly wires, with essentially two giant spark plugs in the middle. At one point, a character has to kick one of these spark plugs back into place!
I could go on, but yeah, it'd be a dissertation. Overall it's a mostly fun movie with some fun homages to Star Trek of old, great effects & music. But try not to think about it too hard or you'll end up irritated, like me.
There are plot holes galore. No need for me to go into detail on them but needless to say some of the things that happen in this movie are just stupid and make no sense. Without giving anything away, it seems that both Starfleet and the Klingons have very lax security protocols because people keep sneaking into places way too easily.
Also, while I love the look of the Enterprise and its bridge, the overall production design doesn't give a sense that all these places that supposedly are on the same ship, are actually, you know, on the same ship. Engineering is this gigantic open vaguely industrial space, with nothing in common with the design of the bridge or hallways. Nobody walks from a hallway, through a door and into engineering. They go through a hallway and then after a cut they're in engineering. I'm all for giving the innards of the ship a more industrial or lived-in feel but they just don't feel like they're actually on the ship. The warp core is yet another room with lots of metal and dangly wires, with essentially two giant spark plugs in the middle. At one point, a character has to kick one of these spark plugs back into place!
I could go on, but yeah, it'd be a dissertation. Overall it's a mostly fun movie with some fun homages to Star Trek of old, great effects & music. But try not to think about it too hard or you'll end up irritated, like me.
- msatlas-691-143343
- May 22, 2013
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- bruce-spencer-ky
- May 29, 2013
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- The_Other_Snowman
- Jun 6, 2014
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Yes, I see this kind of movie create "new" fans, but it loses the old ones.
I saw the previous one and gave it a chance, at least it was something fresh (even if it was kind of dumb), but this crap.... i mean if i want to watch The Avengers combined with Man of Steel, I'm just going to watch those instead (which are not bad for their genre), but this is not Star Trek!
Anyway, predictable plot twists even for a 10 year old, complete disregard for any sort of scientific fact (i know that is fiction, but that "sci" part comes from science - example when the ship is free falling towards the Earth the objects inside free fall along with the ship at the same speed, anyone who saw a image of an astronaut in the space station or was riding a roller coaster knows that) and not one moment to remember.(at least a joke or a clever line).
Good luck with your new demographics "Star Trek", probably the same who gave "sex and the city" 9 out of 10.
I saw the previous one and gave it a chance, at least it was something fresh (even if it was kind of dumb), but this crap.... i mean if i want to watch The Avengers combined with Man of Steel, I'm just going to watch those instead (which are not bad for their genre), but this is not Star Trek!
Anyway, predictable plot twists even for a 10 year old, complete disregard for any sort of scientific fact (i know that is fiction, but that "sci" part comes from science - example when the ship is free falling towards the Earth the objects inside free fall along with the ship at the same speed, anyone who saw a image of an astronaut in the space station or was riding a roller coaster knows that) and not one moment to remember.(at least a joke or a clever line).
Good luck with your new demographics "Star Trek", probably the same who gave "sex and the city" 9 out of 10.
- there-is-one-tsh
- Sep 2, 2013
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And that is because there was only enough script and plot for a 40 minute TV episode.
The rest of this thing is just lots of special effects and absolutely pointless running around.
Too be fair, the original series had a number of episodes that were below par. But at least they tended to be presented in a disciplined and thoughtful way.
In this pile of dung we get lots of sound, lots of flash, and lots of energy -but it is like firework that falls over and fizzes instead of shooting spectacularly in to the air.
Kirk is a shadow of the man from the 2009 movie. Bones is portrayed well but has no meaningful dialogue; just a series of clichéd outbursts.
The last third of the movie is a pointless waste of time. despite having Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Bones this is not Star Trek. It is more of a muddle of X-men and Star Wars for children with A.D.D.
Time to go and watch Wrath of Khan.
The rest of this thing is just lots of special effects and absolutely pointless running around.
Too be fair, the original series had a number of episodes that were below par. But at least they tended to be presented in a disciplined and thoughtful way.
In this pile of dung we get lots of sound, lots of flash, and lots of energy -but it is like firework that falls over and fizzes instead of shooting spectacularly in to the air.
Kirk is a shadow of the man from the 2009 movie. Bones is portrayed well but has no meaningful dialogue; just a series of clichéd outbursts.
The last third of the movie is a pointless waste of time. despite having Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Bones this is not Star Trek. It is more of a muddle of X-men and Star Wars for children with A.D.D.
Time to go and watch Wrath of Khan.
- mformoviesandmore
- May 17, 2013
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