Despite Yourself
- Episode aired Jan 7, 2018
- TV-MA
- 48m
IMDb RATING
7.8/10
5.2K
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While in unfamiliar territory, the U.S.S. Discovery crew is forced to get creative in their next efforts to survive opposing and unprecedented forces and return home.While in unfamiliar territory, the U.S.S. Discovery crew is forced to get creative in their next efforts to survive opposing and unprecedented forces and return home.While in unfamiliar territory, the U.S.S. Discovery crew is forced to get creative in their next efforts to survive opposing and unprecedented forces and return home.
Ronnie Rowe
- Bryce
- (as Ronnie Rowe Jr.)
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My, my doesn't this show bring out epic levels of Trekie saltiness... Every review is either a 1 or and 8,9,10, split about 50/50.
Luckily for us, the reviewers appear to be in a minority... An average 8.6 IMDB review is rather remarkable considering the slow, sputtering start this series had.
As someone in their 40s, I was never a fan of the original series. It was already terribly dated by the time I was old enough to understand the social and political statements that they were attempting to make.
As such, I never saw Mirror Mirror. So I'm approaching this show with fresh eyes having only even been a fan of the orginal movies, TNG and the recent post TNG films.
Sure, it's an expositional show and as such, some of the dialogue appears a little forced, but it's likely this arc will continue for a number of episodes like the Ghost Ship arc.
I'm looking at this episode as a sort of Pilot for an alternative universe thread and I'm expecting some interesting reimagining of characters killed in the original pilot...
I'm not a big fan of the "alternate reality" genre but I'm buckling up for an entirely darker, more adult themed show than the original, rather prissy premise allowed and I'm starting to like what I see.
Very much.
Luckily for us, the reviewers appear to be in a minority... An average 8.6 IMDB review is rather remarkable considering the slow, sputtering start this series had.
As someone in their 40s, I was never a fan of the original series. It was already terribly dated by the time I was old enough to understand the social and political statements that they were attempting to make.
As such, I never saw Mirror Mirror. So I'm approaching this show with fresh eyes having only even been a fan of the orginal movies, TNG and the recent post TNG films.
Sure, it's an expositional show and as such, some of the dialogue appears a little forced, but it's likely this arc will continue for a number of episodes like the Ghost Ship arc.
I'm looking at this episode as a sort of Pilot for an alternative universe thread and I'm expecting some interesting reimagining of characters killed in the original pilot...
I'm not a big fan of the "alternate reality" genre but I'm buckling up for an entirely darker, more adult themed show than the original, rather prissy premise allowed and I'm starting to like what I see.
Very much.
The Mirror Universe! That is what we explore in "Despite Yourself." This is a great episode that has some shocking jaw-dropping moments and some well-earned comedy. This rendition of the Mirror Universe changes things up for the Discovery crew. Burnham is presumed dead, Lorca a fugitive, and Tilly is an evil queen. Yes, you read that correctly. Tilly as an evil queen earns some laughs considering how Tilly is in the normal world. There are some sad moments that happen. I did not expect Culber to die considering how progressive the show was trying to be. Considering that Culber is an openly gay character on the show, it is slightly disappointing he met his demise so early even if it fit the narrative. That said, I have a feeling that we will not be gone for long. In addition, there are some fine fight scenes and some great character moments. This episode was directed by Jonathan Frakes, who of course has a huge part in Star Trek lore. There is plenty to digest, but in the end, this is a good old-fashioned mirror universe story.
Taking off directly where the last episode ended, the crew find themselves stranded in a Klingon ship wreckage. After some simple maneuvering, they discover that they are in a mirror universe, or an alternate universe. Stamets was supposed to deliver them to the nearest star base, but he did one jump too many. Stamets now lay in a catatonic state. Ash and Burnham grow closer to one another, but Ash has some major mental problems of his own. L'Rell is held prisoner in the brig and her interactions with Ash make it seem like he may be a Klingon trapped in a human body...like Voq as some people are suggesting? Ash goes to Culber to get a good look, and this is where we run into some problems. Meanwhile, Burnham and Lorca go on a mission to mirror universe U. S. S Shenzhou.
Jonathan Frakes directed a wonderful episode with many fun callbacks to the older series. Jason Isaacs continues to shine as Lorca, especially when he has to take a backseat to...ahem...Captain Killy. There are fun humorous moments but also moments that drive up the stakes. One of the better episodes of this season!
My Grade: A.
Taking off directly where the last episode ended, the crew find themselves stranded in a Klingon ship wreckage. After some simple maneuvering, they discover that they are in a mirror universe, or an alternate universe. Stamets was supposed to deliver them to the nearest star base, but he did one jump too many. Stamets now lay in a catatonic state. Ash and Burnham grow closer to one another, but Ash has some major mental problems of his own. L'Rell is held prisoner in the brig and her interactions with Ash make it seem like he may be a Klingon trapped in a human body...like Voq as some people are suggesting? Ash goes to Culber to get a good look, and this is where we run into some problems. Meanwhile, Burnham and Lorca go on a mission to mirror universe U. S. S Shenzhou.
Jonathan Frakes directed a wonderful episode with many fun callbacks to the older series. Jason Isaacs continues to shine as Lorca, especially when he has to take a backseat to...ahem...Captain Killy. There are fun humorous moments but also moments that drive up the stakes. One of the better episodes of this season!
My Grade: A.
Longtime Trek fan, all series, movies even the reboots though the last one jumped the shark in terms of just being yet another explosion-filled adventure movie, not Trek at all. And I don't even really care whether the movies or series are 'Trek' or not. Just that they are worth watching. which Discovery decidedly is not, despite my repeated attempts simply due to being a Trek fan. For one thing, what has this crew ever actually, er, discovered? Beyond that, lousy acting, lousy lighting (I don't watch much TV, maybe the shadows and darkness are the current cool thing but doesn't do much for me), lousy stories, lousy characters. Beyond the overhyped and terribly bad actress Michael character (where in hell do people find her a good actress?) I could not name one character in this show without a character list. whereas in all other Trek series, within a few episodes, I and other fans could easily do so. Says a lot. It's frankly just an awful show and I think by this point I'll only continue watching to see how utterly worse it might get, if that's possible. Longtime, and hugely disappointed, Trek fan.
Despite Yourself is a great episode of Star Trek: Discovery.
The crew of the Discovery is in an alternate universe and have to act quickly to fit in to the new universe. I WILL NOT SPOIL IT FOR YOU.
Johnathan Frakes (Star Trek: First Contact) directs this episode and gives it a certain cinematic style that some of the previous episodes are lacking. Also he manages to get better performances out of the actors as well. Especially Mary Wiseman (Baskets) who delivers a stunning performance when her character is forced to act a certain way, which happens to be the complete opposite of her characters personality. Also Jason Isaacs (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets) unsurprisingly gives a great performance as a captain who is also forced to act a way his character isn't use to and he pulls it off to great effect.
The episode is also the funniest yet, with a certain characters Scottish accent being a stand out. The only downside to this episode is that some of the editing and a couple of moments from the character Ash Tyler aren't executed as well as the rest of the episode.
Otherwise it was the best episode yet in my opinion.
8/10
Johnathan Frakes (Star Trek: First Contact) directs this episode and gives it a certain cinematic style that some of the previous episodes are lacking. Also he manages to get better performances out of the actors as well. Especially Mary Wiseman (Baskets) who delivers a stunning performance when her character is forced to act a certain way, which happens to be the complete opposite of her characters personality. Also Jason Isaacs (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets) unsurprisingly gives a great performance as a captain who is also forced to act a way his character isn't use to and he pulls it off to great effect.
The episode is also the funniest yet, with a certain characters Scottish accent being a stand out. The only downside to this episode is that some of the editing and a couple of moments from the character Ash Tyler aren't executed as well as the rest of the episode.
Otherwise it was the best episode yet in my opinion.
8/10
After a rather abysmal first round of episodes this is the first one i actually liked.
It's grittier than ever, but the story holds up and is engaging. Interesting take on another universe - this is just as much a possibility as the utopian original Star Trek universe.
Keep it up!!
It's grittier than ever, but the story holds up and is engaging. Interesting take on another universe - this is just as much a possibility as the utopian original Star Trek universe.
Keep it up!!
Did you know
- TriviaThis is the first episode of the "Star Trek" franchise since Prototype (1996) 22 years earlier to be directed by Jonathan Frakes. In the interim, he directed Star Trek: First Contact (1996) and Star Trek: Insurrection (1998).
- GoofsProps/set pieces in a side room off the ISS Shenzhou's transporter room have markings from Starfleet on them, not the Terran Empire.
- Quotes
Sylvia Tilly: Is that how you treat your long-lost captain? If you greeted me that way, Connor, I'd cut out your tongue and use it to lick my boots.
- ConnectionsFeatured in After Trek: Despite Yourself (2018)
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