Conflict with the Saviors leads to unintended consequences for the Hilltop, the Kingdom, and Alexandria.Conflict with the Saviors leads to unintended consequences for the Hilltop, the Kingdom, and Alexandria.Conflict with the Saviors leads to unintended consequences for the Hilltop, the Kingdom, and Alexandria.
Chandler Riggs
- Carl Grimes
- (credit only)
Danai Gurira
- Michonne
- (credit only)
Josh McDermitt
- Eugene Porter
- (credit only)
Christian Serratos
- Rosita Espinosa
- (credit only)
Seth Gilliam
- Gabriel Stokes
- (credit only)
Jeffrey Dean Morgan
- Negan Smith
- (credit only)
Austin Amelio
- Dwight
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Steven Ogg
- Simon
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One of the things that I think this show has struggled to over the last season and a half is decide how to deal with sending characters off when the time is right. When the info for the episode states "unintended consequences", I naturally thought that there would be at least 1 major death. Eric was of some importance, considering he's Aaron's boyfriend, but I guess I just didn't feel a serious emotional connection to him. So in a way, I guess the episode was a letdown in terms of consequences (with deaths). Other than that, this was another fast paced episode that moved the Savior conflict along a little bit more. But why are we waiting 3 episodes to see what happened to Father Gabriel?
So I guess bringing Morales back didn't turn out to be anything more than a brief but important cameo. He did seem to get inside Rick's head by claiming that he's a changed and violent man since they left Atlanta. I have a feeling, especially seeing the reactions to Daryl's kills tonight, the idea of killing vs letting the Saviors live is going to be the main theme of the season. To me, it sure seems like we are gearing up for a Rick and Daryl fight. And perhaps that's not a physical fight but more of a yelling match featuring the two, but it's still something that could be a pivotal point in the season.
Speaking of pivotal, it looks like Carol, Ezekiel, and crew got ambushed at the end of tonight's episode. Now see that could lead to some actual consequences next week. But it is about time the Saviors take back one of these wins that the Alexandrians keeps on getting. And to be honest, the whole idea of trying to keep all of these Saviors alive is not exactly the smartest idea. So I definitely don't blame Morgan and Co. for not agreeing with the rest of the crew. And actually Morgan did a little more than not agree, he full blown fought Jesus. Who knows if that was even Morgan under there, considering he seemed to be under a sort of trance.
Overall, it wasn't the emotional breakthrough episode that I thought persay, but there were some nice moments, especially with Rick's continuing internal conflict about the group's ultimate plan going forward. Maybe next week will be that big week.
7.2/10
So I guess bringing Morales back didn't turn out to be anything more than a brief but important cameo. He did seem to get inside Rick's head by claiming that he's a changed and violent man since they left Atlanta. I have a feeling, especially seeing the reactions to Daryl's kills tonight, the idea of killing vs letting the Saviors live is going to be the main theme of the season. To me, it sure seems like we are gearing up for a Rick and Daryl fight. And perhaps that's not a physical fight but more of a yelling match featuring the two, but it's still something that could be a pivotal point in the season.
Speaking of pivotal, it looks like Carol, Ezekiel, and crew got ambushed at the end of tonight's episode. Now see that could lead to some actual consequences next week. But it is about time the Saviors take back one of these wins that the Alexandrians keeps on getting. And to be honest, the whole idea of trying to keep all of these Saviors alive is not exactly the smartest idea. So I definitely don't blame Morgan and Co. for not agreeing with the rest of the crew. And actually Morgan did a little more than not agree, he full blown fought Jesus. Who knows if that was even Morgan under there, considering he seemed to be under a sort of trance.
Overall, it wasn't the emotional breakthrough episode that I thought persay, but there were some nice moments, especially with Rick's continuing internal conflict about the group's ultimate plan going forward. Maybe next week will be that big week.
7.2/10
I admit that this wasn't one of the best episodes, but it's weird how the rating is so low. This episode mostly suffers from how it doesn't make many new revelations and can come off as filler. It's still a good episode because the atmosphere and characters are great. Here we have Maggie allowing Gregory to go back into their community as well as a fight between Jesus and Morgan. If you're thinking that I'm only saying know most of these plot points because the episode of "The Talking Dead" discusses them...well you'd be right. It's hard to keep up with all the characters okay?
While it was pretty brief, this really did have some graphic violence in it. Daryl is as cool as ever and I want to tell you something about him. He was created just for the show and wasn't in the comics. The funny thing is that he's portrayed so well in the show that the actual creators have said they don't want him introduced as the character is so well established in his own continuity. Luckily, we get some fights with the walkers as well as the saviors. This season is moving kind of slow, but it's still good. ***
While it was pretty brief, this really did have some graphic violence in it. Daryl is as cool as ever and I want to tell you something about him. He was created just for the show and wasn't in the comics. The funny thing is that he's portrayed so well in the show that the actual creators have said they don't want him introduced as the character is so well established in his own continuity. Luckily, we get some fights with the walkers as well as the saviors. This season is moving kind of slow, but it's still good. ***
Mindless shooting, pointless and lazy dialogue, needless sacrifices and weak action are the theme of this episode.
The saviors are completely unorganized and useless, getting mowed down everywhere. Everyone keeps reminding us "they have the numbers" but it sure doesn't seem that way. They forgot how to even aim a gun as they have not killed anyone noteworthy in the "good guys'" ranks. And where is negan? Where are Simon and Dwight and Eugene etc? Why haven't they been featured in the "all-out war"? Seems just like the writers forgot about them. I was expecting seeing Negan running around and shooting someone but no, I guess he is still in the trailer with Gabriel. The "all-out war" had potential to be great, action-packed and exciting and the viewers seeing fearing for their favorite characters with casualties on both sides. Weak start to the war, maybe it will get better.
This show is on a downward spiral. Many people I know have stopped watching it already and I am very close too. Maybe getting new writers would change something. But the show as it is now, is pretty sub-par.
The saviors are completely unorganized and useless, getting mowed down everywhere. Everyone keeps reminding us "they have the numbers" but it sure doesn't seem that way. They forgot how to even aim a gun as they have not killed anyone noteworthy in the "good guys'" ranks. And where is negan? Where are Simon and Dwight and Eugene etc? Why haven't they been featured in the "all-out war"? Seems just like the writers forgot about them. I was expecting seeing Negan running around and shooting someone but no, I guess he is still in the trailer with Gabriel. The "all-out war" had potential to be great, action-packed and exciting and the viewers seeing fearing for their favorite characters with casualties on both sides. Weak start to the war, maybe it will get better.
This show is on a downward spiral. Many people I know have stopped watching it already and I am very close too. Maybe getting new writers would change something. But the show as it is now, is pretty sub-par.
It's like an half baked war movie, with toy guns and no humour. At least all those cheap b-action movies usually have some sense of self awareness like" we know it looks cheap, but we just couldn't afford AAA Hollywood fx guys, so we overplayed it with over the top gore and gallows humour".
Yeah well , but this actually IS a AAA production, so they could afford max level fx, but it STILL looks cheap. Uninspired. Almost boring. Not even complaining about the idiotic writing, I've lost sense who's fighting who for whatever, several seasons ago. Anyhow, those actors are well advised to just lay down and die, because this pseudo war makes no sense at all. Same goes for the producers, look at Spartacus of Starz, how to let a show die with dignity...
Yeah well , but this actually IS a AAA production, so they could afford max level fx, but it STILL looks cheap. Uninspired. Almost boring. Not even complaining about the idiotic writing, I've lost sense who's fighting who for whatever, several seasons ago. Anyhow, those actors are well advised to just lay down and die, because this pseudo war makes no sense at all. Same goes for the producers, look at Spartacus of Starz, how to let a show die with dignity...
This is embarrassing. Did everyone forget how guns work? In the last 3 episodes no one reloaded a gun, not a single time, apparently there's at least a thousand bullets in every magazine now. It's utterly embarrassing how badly written these last 3 episodes were, now I finally remember why I stopped watching this show four years ago, they turned a show about harsh survival into a show about street gangs. I guess I'll watch this season for the sake of story hoping next seasons are better.
Did you know
- TriviaCarl does not appear in this episode.
- GoofsWhen Aaron is looking for his boyfriend Eric it sounds as if he shouts "Aaron" instead of "Eric", however the two names sound very similar, especially when the last consonant is drowned by shouting/crying. It is unlikely the actor would shout his own character's name in such an emotional and important scene.
- ConnectionsFeatured in The Walking Dead: Behind the Dead (2017)
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