...I Lose Myself

Updated after watching the episode.

I'm still having trouble believing that the script ISN'T written as an experiment in how stupid you can make plot points and get away with it. The ethanol tanker, cos that stuff was in big demand and tankers of it were all over the place just before the zombie apocalypse, yep, anyway...., hey look, there's one outside and they need to drink some of it cos it cures anti freeze, but it gets shot up,... and then there was none, hang on.??? like not even some in the bottom of the barrel?, or a last drip or 3 of it coming out the holes they could get with their bucket, or like puddles of it they could scoop up from the big tanker that spilled it's content onto the ground. Seriously, no seriously, could the 5 year old children who write this script not come up with a better reason for the ethanol run to fail than it poured onto the ground and becoming invisible? Here's one, it got set on fire, there you go, problem solved, and a nice special effect stunt to make it exciting. Honestly all of us apart from the '10/10, best-episode-ever!!!, 'please-don't-make-me-lose-my-job-by-getting-my-show-cancelled' bots' feel we could write a better show than the handful of people actually hired to write the show.

The rest was the normal (for this show) children's preschool level story telling, grunted in caveman level explanations. Morgan need to show he 'does what he says', Morgan tells everyone, "he does what he say", Morgan do what he say!!! everyone laughs 'ha ha, ha ha'. It really is that simplistic. And the moral of the story, beer cures everything, let's all have a happy beer, even the kid, but just this once,

Now there's a mysterious Denim factory we've not heard anything about before the last 5 mins?

This season started out well with ep 1, then 3 ok episodes, then a really good episode in ep 5 - 'Laura', the John Dorie focused one, then, a bunch of rubbish ones and one other decent one in ep 11, but only just decent. That's a pretty poor result for series 4 but still better than the last 2 series.

The actors are good, the production values, sound, and camera are good. The stories are terrible, and the writing is beyond bad, It's intelligence insulting nonsensical preschool basic rubbish. This show could be good. hire me, or anyone on this board apart from the drones you're already paying to put up good reviews.

Check it out. 5 glowing reviews of this episode almost before it even aired. How does that happen? I'm guessing these are staff writers, or maybe even the actual program script writers who put so little effort in on the actual show they had enough time to come on here and put in a little job security effort to try and get a dying show that lost its way and is all over the place, renewed for a 6th season. Good luck to you team. Hopefully the $20 you invested in this campaign of hype pays off and you all get gainful employment for another year. But, back to the show. I'll fill in the detail as soon as I see it.

Save yourself and don't waste your time watching this show anymore. It's about as exciting as watching someone take a trip to Pittsburgh by train.

Done with this show. The sooner they cancel it, the better. Time to scuttle this ship for everyone's sake.

So despite all the negative comments, I really enjoyed this season. Thought it was great seeing the older characters develop & grow. Was great initially watching Strand as a changed character but was so gutted when he reverted back to being an @rse! Love the new characters June & Al. Goes without saying love Morgan!

What an explosive and eventful season finale! I consider myself a fan of season 4 and I enjoyed this final ride as much as I've enjoyed the previous chapters.

I think the viewers really need to appreciate this new band of brothers, this amazing group: Every single one is likeable and even sketchy Wendell and Sarah are now two of my favorites. June's hopeful character developed so well and John Dorie is always a delight to watch, his actor is amazing! Althea finds herself in a predicament this episode and her survival-skills are stunning. It's entertaining to watch her fighting off walkers in the city! Her character is also a breath of fresh air in this franchise. I might get hate for this, but I've never liked or loved FTWD's core group. Sometimes they all felt shady and selfish and some decisions were just plain awful. In season 3, however, a lot changed and in season 4 almost everything changed - for many viewers it changed in a very bad way... I enjoy it throughout!

What I liked about this episode: The group is TOGETHER. I remember how I cheered up when the group came to rescue Momo in the previous episode. I had the same good feeling while watching the finale. The group-action in TWD and FTWD is always good and fun to watch. Though I'm a fan of well-done bottled episodes, I enjoy the "we-are-in-this-together"-episodes most. I also enjoyed the direction of the Virginia-story and I think the majority will love it as well!

What I didn't like about this episode: It's way too short. Some scenes felt a bit rushed, though the pace alltogether was entertaining. What bugged me during season 4b: Martha. I liked her back-story, but her character as a villain is sketchy, weird and not believeable. But I think people will enjoy her storyline in this season finale.

Let's see what season 5 will bring to the table.

No joke, I literally had to consistently remind myself that I wasn't watching a Disney movie. The thought popped into my head time and time again, "This is a weird Disney movie." I'm not joking. I honestly wish I was joking. I honestly hope this whole fiasco of trash is a joke. I have never seen a great show fall so quickly and swiftly, and so low down.

When the shot near the end of the episode mirrored the shot of Madison, Strand, Nick, Alicia, and Luciana finding the baseball stadium in "No One's Gone", that's when it hit me. I felt like I just got slapped in the face with the force of 8,000 typhoons. This episode somehow felt more offensive to fans of the original Fear than the deaths of Nick and Madison did. Never have I seen more stupid decisions, more god awful dialogue, more "of-course" moments, more """"""""poetic"""""""" garbage being spewed by characters with so little life or soul in them, more awful cliches and tropes that should've been worn out in the '80s.

I really can not see how the showrunners (Gimple included) can think in their right minds that this is good television, or that these are good characters, or that this is a good story. I always try my best to see how other people might like something even if I don't, and if you personally enjoyed this episode then more power to you, but I can not see any objective bits of merit here. The grey filter remained. The Gimple-ogue remained. The awful characters remained. Everything that made this season awful remained. And a season's build up of going to Alexandria is completely destroyed in one nonchalant sentence ten minutes before the episode's end, in favour of a LITERALLY NEVER-BEFORE HEARD OF DENIM FACTORY.

I don't have closing thoughts. I just needed to rant.

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.