Big Road Blues Show 8/10/25: Blind Willie Johnson – What Is The Soul Of A Man?

ARTISTSONGALBUM
Shane FordInspirtation for the BookInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonDark Was The Night Cold Was The GroundAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordStructure of the BookInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonIt's Nobody's Fault But MineAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordThe Obscurity of Blind Willie JohnsonInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonMother’s Children Have a Hard TimeAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordA Cultural DivideInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonIf I Had My Way I'd Tear the Building DownSweeter As The Years Go By
Shane FordSam Charters and Dan Williams ResearchInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonJesus Is Coming SoonPraise God I'm Satisfied
Shane FordMore on Sam Charters and His NarrativeInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonLet Your Light Shine on MeAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordGospel & BluesInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonThe Rain Don't Fall on MePraise God I'm Satisfied
Shane FordInfluencesInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonJohn the RevelatorAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordDifferneces Between Secular & BluesInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonYou're Gonna Need Somebody on Your BondAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordTraveling Street SingerInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonLord I Just Can't Keep From CryingAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie JohnsonBlind Willie & The ChurchThe Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie JohnsonJesus Make Up My Dying BedPraise God I'm Satisfied
Shane FordBlind Willie & the Pentecostal ChurchInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonWhen the War Was OnAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie JohnsonJesus Is Coming SoonPraise God I'm Satisfied
Shane FordLyrics & Social CommentaryInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonGod Moves on the WaterAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordReligous Music & Blues MusicInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonI'm Gonna Run to the City of RefugeSweeter As The Years Go By
Shane FordBlind Willie's Voice & Call & ResponseInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonKeep Your Lamp Trimmed and BurningAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordRecording and RepertoireInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonPraise God I'm SatisfiedAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Shane FordStill Active After Recording CareerInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonTake Your StandSweeter As The Years Go By
Shane FordNew Interest In His MusicInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonEverybody Ought to Treat a Stranger RightSweeter As The Years Go By
Shane FordBlind Willie's LegacyInterview
Blind Willie JohnsonChurch, I'm Fully Saved TodayAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie JohnsonThe Soul of a ManAmerican Epic: The Best Of Blind Willie Johnson

Show Notes: 

The Ballad of "Blind" Willie JohnsonToday’s show was inspired by the new book The Ballad of “Blind” Willie Johnson: Race, Redemption, and the Soul of an American Artist by Shane Ford. I’m not exactly sure when I first heard Blind Willie Johnson but I know I had Praise God I’m Satisfied on Yazoo before I went to college. In college, the local record store had the second volume, Sweeter As The Years Go By and I snapped that one up. A few years later Columbia issued everything on the 2-CD set The Complete Blind Willie Johnson. Johnson’s story was largely shaped by Sam Charters who was on his trail as early as 1955 and found and interviewed his wife, Angeline. In 1957 Folkways issued Blind Willie Johnson: His Story with notes by Charters which included some interview segments of Angeline. Prior to this, Folkways had included a couple of Johnson tracks on the anthologies Jazz, Vol. 2: The Blues and the influential Anthology Of American Folk Music Volume Two: Social Music which was compiled by Harry Smith. Charters would later write about his findings in his seminal 1959 book, The Country Blues. Charters narrative of Johnson had many flaws which seemed to have been repeated over and over through the years.  In the 1970s, Dan Williams visited Marlin looking for anyone who knew Johnson and ended up finding his ex-wife Willie B. Harris. Up until that time, it was believed that Johnson’s second wife Angeline sang on his records. Williams fleshed out and corrected the facts of Johnson’s life. Now with Shane Ford’s book, the pieces are in place for a fuller accounting, not only of Johnson’s life but the context that shaped his music. As Shane wrote that “ultimately what is missing is the bigger picture: the actual life of the man and the music he gave us.” On today’s program we chat with Shane and play a stack of great records by Johnson. The notes from today’s show are largely drawn from Shane’s book.

Johnson was born in Pendleton, Texas, near Temple, and not Marlin or Brenham, as most had written, a farming community built around the Santa Fe railroad, on the twenty-fifth day of January in 1897 to Dock Johnson and Mary King. By as early as 1916, Johnson was already on his way to developing his own unique sound. He was certainly already acquainted with many of the best preachers of his day as well as the great song leader Madkin Butler. He also would have likely crossed paths with Blind Lemon Jefferson. In addition to the church music and the original songs coming out of the blues singers, Johnson would have also likely been familiar with the medicine shows and Black vaudeville.

Chicago Defender Ad
Chicago Defender, Feb. 4, 1928

Following the 1900 storm in Galveston, the city of Houston naturally began to see migration from what had been, prior to the hurricane, Texas’s largest city. Johnson arrived there around 1917. Johnson settled in Houston’s Fourth Ward, home to at least four hundred Black-owned businesses ranging from saloons, barbers, grocers, and jewelers to physicians and attorneys, with most of them situated along the dividing line between the core of the Fourth Ward and the “Reservation,” the former red light district that was just beginning to be dismantled as Johnson arrived. 4The street, known to most of the residents as West Dallas Street, was the main drag where some of the best practitioners of the blues anywhere in the South could be found at any given time for the next forty years, drinking, working in shoeshine parlors, or playing a guitar out on the sidewalks. Lemon Jefferson strolled the street with “guitar in one hand, folding chair in the other,” and Alger “Texas” Alexander could also be found there. And it was here that Johnson himself was often found “dangling a tin cup and shouting blues-patterned spirituals.

On the weekends, and especially in the late summer when church events were more frequent, Johnson would depart Houston on the H&TC and could be found outside the various Baptist associations, revivals, and conventions. On Saturdays, especially in the fall, when the harvest season brought in more money, he would seek out the best street corners in the various Central and East Texas towns dotting the railroad line and perform for the rural farm workers as they flooded into the towns to spend money after the long week. Johnson’s guitar skills were minimal at the time, and he relied more on his vocals. He was often accompanied by another blind singer who had a “lighter voice” to sing responses which contrasted with Johnson’s already gravelly preacher’s tone. Johnson was already becoming well-respected for his voice and had a solid repertoire of songs including “You’ll Need Somebody on Your Bond,” Butler’s Titanic ballad “God Moves on the Water,” and the Samson and Delilah hymn Johnson called “If I Had My Way I’d Tear the Building Down.” And even with his voice as the main draw, Johnson still managed to assemble a substantial crowd.

Chicago Defender, Aug. 30, 1930

By the early 1920s, Johnson departed Houston and made his way closer to home in Temple, settling halfway between Waco and Hearne on the H&TC in Marlin, a bustling city known for its healing waters. It was here where he found himself among a thriving community who practiced this more exuberant form of worship. And while still on the fringes, the Pentecostal Church of God in Christ (COGIC) church may have been just what Johnson needed, both spiritually and artistically. The people who knew Johnson during these early years referred to him as a “songster.” Johnson fully embraced the Pentecostal Church of God in Christ (COGIC) by 1922. It seems as though it was also at this time that Johnson’s skills on the guitar began to take a turn—from the rudimentary form of his very early beginnings into his playing as a fierce emotional tool with its own expressive voice. Johnson, meanwhile, was a constant presence in Hearne by the mid-1920s. Taking the train from Marlin, he’d make the thirty mile trip nearly every Saturday to set up on a corner across from a myriad of other blind street singers, including Lemon Jefferson, to perform and make a living from the sharecroppers who moved through the streets to spend a little money. He’d also stick around on Sundays to attend church.

By the time Blind Willie Johnson began his recording career, he was a well-known evangelist. On December 3, 1927, Johnson was assembled along with Billiken Johnson and Coley Jones at a temporary studio that talent scout Frank Walker had set up in the Deep Ellum neighborhood in Dallas to record for Columbia Records. In the ensuing session, Johnson played six selections, 13 takes in total, and was accompanied by Willie B. Harris on his first recording, “I Know His Blood Can Make Me Whole”. The first songs to be released were “I Know His Blood Can Make Me Whole” and “Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed”, on Columbia’s popular 14000 Race series. Johnson’s debut became a substantial success, as 9,400 copies were pressed, more than the latest release by one of Columbia’s most established stars, Bessie Smith, and an additional pressing of 6,000 copies followed. Johnson, accompanied by Willie B. Harris, returned to Dallas on December 5, 1928 for a second recording session. Another year passed before Johnson recorded again, on December 10 and 11, 1929, the longest sessions of his career. He completed ten sides in 16 takes at Werlein’s Music Store in New Orleans. For his fifth and final recording session, Johnson journeyed to Atlanta, Georgia, with Harris returning to provide vocal harmonies. Ten selections were completed on April 20, 1930. Some of his songs were re-released by Vocalion Records in 1932, but Johnson never recorded again.

Blind Willie Johnson Columbia AdAs the Depression worsened, it was the poorer musicians who suffered the most as they faced not only inadequate job opportunities, but with money scarce everywhere, they could no longer depend on their music to earn a living as local performance circuits dried up. Likely due to the hardships thrust upon him during the Depression, Johnson was beginning to look to the church as a way to help supplement his income from singing on the streets. Despite getting married in 1932, Johnson didn’t settle down for long. He found a new singing partner and traveled throughout Central and East Texas, including in Columbus, Eagle Lake, Rockdale, Chapel Hill, Shiner, and as far south as Goliad. Not limited to a particular area, he even made his way out of state and crossed paths with Blind Willie McTell. He married Angelina in 1941 and passed in distressing circumstances in 1945. The official cause of death was listed as malarial fever. Angelina gave his final profession as “minister” on the death certificate.

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Big Road Blues Show 3/13/22: You’ll Need Somebody on Your Bond – Blind Willie Johnson & The Guitar Evangelists


ARTISTSONGALBUM
Blind Willie Johnson It's Nobody's Fault But Mine The Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie Johnson If I Had My Way I'd Tear This Building Down The Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie Johnson I'm Gonna Run to the City of Refuge The Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Dennis Crumpton & Rob Summers Everybody Ought to Pray Some Time American Primitive Vol. I: Raw Pre-War Gospel
Eddie Head & His Family Down on MeAmerican Primitive Vol. I: Raw Pre-War Gospel
Blind Roosevelt Graves & Brother Woke Up This Morning with My Mind On American Epic: The Collection
Willie Mae Williams Where the Sun Never Goes Down God's Mighty Hand
Mother McCollum Jesus Is My Air-O-Plane Blues Images Vol. 11
Sister O.M. Terrell The Bible's Right Preachin' The Gospel: Holy Blues
Brother Willie Eason I Want To Live (So God Can Use Me) God's Mighty Hand
Rev. Anderson JohnsonGod Don't Like It God's Mighty Hand
Rev. Utah Smith I Want Two WingsSlide Guitar Gospel 1944-64
Rev. Edward W. Clayborn Your Enemy Cannot Harm Blues From The Vocalion Vaults
Blind Willie Davis Rock of Ages How Can I Keep From Singing Volume Vol. 2
Blind Joe Taggart When I Stand Before the King Been Listening All Day
Rev Charlie Jackson Wrapped Up And Tangled UpGet Right With God: Hot Gospel Vol. 2
Henry Green Storm Thru Mississippi Fire In My Bones
Marylin Scott (Mary Deloatch)I Want To Die EasyI Got What My Daddy Likes
Blind Willie Johnson Dark Was the Night -- Cold Was the Ground The Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie Johnson You'll Need Somebody on Your Bond The Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie Johnson When the War Was OnThe Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Gussie Nesbit Pure Religion Blues Images Vol. 11
Blind Gary Davis Lord, I Wish I Could SeePreachin' The Gospel: Holy Blues
Lil Mcclintock Sow Good Seeds Blues Images Vol. 10
Leon Pinson Hush, Somebody Is Calling My NameThe George Mitchell Collection Vol. 1-45
Flora Molton Bye And Bye I'm Going To See The KingLiving Country Blues USA Vol. 3
Boyd RiversJesus Is on The MainlineLiving Country Blues USA: An Anthology
Lonnie McIntorsh Sleep on Mother Sleep On How Can I Keep From Singing Vol. 1
Rev. I.B. WareYou Better Quit Drinking Shine American Primitive Vol. I: Raw Pre-War Gospel
William and Versey Smith Everybody Help the Boys Come Home American Primitive Vol. I: Raw Pre-War Gospel
Blind Willie Johnson The Rain Don't Fall On MeThe Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie Johnson God Moves On the WaterThe Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Blind Willie Johnson John the RevelatorThe Complete Blind Willie Johnson
Sister Rosetta Tharpe Up Above My HeadGospel Time TV show

Show Notes:

 

All record labels from the collection of Axel Küstner.
All photos taken by Axel Küstner.
Special thanks to Bernd Van Werven for digitizing the photos.

 

On today’s show we spotlight the guitar evangelist tradition with the bulk of the tracks from the 20s and 30s and well as some later day performers. During the Depression era of the 1930s into the 50s, street musicians were a commonplace of Black American life to be found both in small towns and cities. Many of these musicians, like Blind Willie Johnson, sang religious music and played guitar for change from the passing crowd with a handful finding their way on to record. In the realms of commercial recordings, the original guitar evangelist was the Rev. Edward W. Clayborn who was bestowed that title in the copy for ads advertising his records which appeared in the Chicago Defender in 1927. If Clayborn remains obscure, Blind Willie Johnson is far better known and the subject of a good deal of research. By the time Johnson began his recording career in 1927, he was a well-known evangelist and recorded through 1930. Some of today’s artists are well remembered, such as Blind Gary Davis and Sister Rosettta Tharpe, but the rest, like Mother McCollum, Blind Joe Taggart, Rev. Utah Smith, Lonnie McIntorsh, Eddie Head, Sister O.M. Terrell and others featured today remain obscure. There were several notable latter day guitar evangelists and we hear from a few, such as Flora Molton, Rev. Charlie Jackson, Leon Pinson and Boyd Rivers. I may do a part two as there were several artists that I didn’t quite have room for, including several latter day performers. We kick the show off with three by Blind Willie Johnson considered by many as the greatest of the guitar evangelists.

By the time Blind Willie Johnson began his recording career, he was a well-known evangelist. On December 3, 1927, Johnson was assembled along with Billiken Johnson and Coley Jones at a temporary studio that talent scout Frank Walker had set up in the Deep Ellum neighborhood in Dallas to record for Columbia Records. In the ensuing session, Johnson played six selections, 13 takes in total, and was accompanied by Willie B. Harris on his first recording, “I Know His Blood Can Make Me Whole”. The first songs to be released were “I Know His Blood Can Make Me Whole” and “Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed”, on Columbia’s popular 14000 Race series. Johnson’s debut became a substantial success, as 9,400 copies were pressed, more than the latest release by one of Columbia’s most established stars, Bessie Smith, and an additional pressing of 6,000 copies followed.

Johnson, accompanied by Willie B. Harris, returned to Dallas on December 5, 1928 for a second recording session. Another year passed before Johnson recorded again, on December 10 and 11, 1929, the longest sessions of his career. He completed ten sides in 16 takes at Werlein’s Music Store in New Orleans. For his fifth and final recording session, Johnson journeyed to Atlanta, Georgia, with Harris returning to provide vocal harmonies. Ten selections were completed on April 20, 1930. Some of his songs were re-released by Vocalion Records in 1932, but Johnson never recorded again.

Practically nothing is known about Rev. Edward Clayborn who was the earliest guitar evangelist on record. He cut over two dozen numbers for Vocalion between 1926 and 1929, scoring a major hit in 1926 with “Your Enemies Cannot Harm You (But Watch Your Close Friends).”

Chicago Defender June 4, 1927

Blind Joe Taggart made his first recordings in 1926, for the Vocalion label as Blind Joe Taggart. More sessions followed in 1927, 1928 and 1929. Josh White was a lead boy for Blind Joe Taggart during the late 1920’s, for the sum of $4 per week and apparently leased out by his mother. While performing his job, Taggart kept White dressed in rags with no shoes, presumably in order to invite sympathy from the audience when performing or otherwise. Taggart’s last commercial recordings were issued in 1934. He remarried in Chicago in 1943, and made a acetate for the Presto label in 1948 which has been reissued by John Tefteller.

Rev. Gary Davis ran with legendary bluesmen such as Willie Walker and Blind Boy Fuller down South, making his debut with fifteen sides cut in 1935 for the ARC label. In the 1940’s he moved to New York where he recorded prolifically in the post-war years starting with a few scattered sides in the 1940’s, more in the 1950’s before really picking up steam in the 1960’s. While he was never a star on the folk scene or blues revival, he attracted a flock of devoted mostly white followers who learned directly from him and many in turn became well known musicians in their own right ensuring that Davis’ legacy was carried on.

If the above artists were relatively well recorded, there were a slew of fine artists who left just a handful of records such as Dennis Crumpton and Rob Summers’s who cut one great 78, Eddie Head and His Family, Blind Gussie Nesbit and Rev. I.B. Ware who all left behind two 78’s and the fine team of William and Versey Smith. William and Versey Smith were husband and wife team who recorded four tracks for Paramount Records in August 1927. Their song “Everybody Help The Boys Come Home” relates to World War I; and “When That Great Ship Went Down” relates to the sinking of RMS Titanic in 1912. Blind Willie Johnson recorded his songs “When the War Was On” and “God Moves on the Water”, which relate to those same topics, and which share lyrics and tunes with them, on December 11, 1929. It therefore seems likely that Johnson knew that record.

There was quite a tradition of guitar toting gospel ladies such as Mother McCollum, Willie Mae Williams, Sister O.M. Terrell, Marylin Scott, Flora Molton and most famously Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Mother McCollum as billed as “Sanctified Singer with Guitar” and recorded six sides in June of 1930 for Vocalion Records. Nothing is known about her background.

The Bible's Right

Sister Sister O.M. Terrell was born Ola Mae Terrell in 1911, the Atlanta native experienced a salvation experience at age 11 while attending a Holiness Movement tent revival. From the Depression years of the 1930s to the Eisenhower ’50s, Sister Terrell lived the life of an itinerate evangelist and supported herself with her music. In 1948 she cut a record for the Playboy label. In 1953 she recorded six sides for Columbia. She was tracked down late in life by Bruce Nemerov at a nursing home in Conyers, Georgia.

Little is known about Marylin Scott or Mary Deloatch, she recorded under both names as well as Marylin Scott the Carolina Blues Girl. She may have been from Charlotte, North Carolina or Norfolk, Virginia, and did some local recording in the mid-40’s then in 1950 for the new independent label, Muse Records. Scott then moved to Savoy Records where she recorded with the Johnny Otis  which were released on Savoy’s subsidiary label, Regent Records. In 1951 she cut several gospel numbers for Regent as well as a few final gospel numbers for Savoy. She was still active in gospel music as late as 1967, cutting a 45 that year for Arctic.

In the post-war era the tradition the guitar evangelist tradition continued with artists such as Rev. Anderson Johnson, Rev. Utah Smith, Rev Charlie Jackson, Leon Pinson and Boyd Rivers among others. Rev. Anderson Johnson’s recording career was thought to have consisted of the i6 tracks cut in Miami during 1953 but one other earlier recording has been located issued on the Angel label. Johnson started preaching at the age of and at age 19 and was singing gospel on a street corner in Miami when Henry Stone walked by and offered him a record deal.

In 1923 Utah Smith became an evangelist in the Church of God In Christ, usually just called the Holiness or Sanctified Church. Smith had taken up harmonica as a teen, soon switching to a steel guitar, then an electric guitar by 1938 which he played in his revival meetings. He would make three commercial recordings, which would be issued on at least six different labels, three of which were versions of his theme song– I Want Two Wings. First came a 78 RPM for Regis, recorded and first issued in 1944, then re-issued on Manor (1949), Arco (1950) and on 45 rpm on Kay-Ron (1958). In 1953 he cut a session for Checker in Chicago, two songs were released. Smith ran his own Church in New Orleans called the Two Winged Temple.

Wrapped Up And Tangled UpRev. Charlie Jackson was born in 1932 and by age ten was performing music for friends and at school. Jackson released a dozen or so singles on the Booker label out of New Orleans and on the Jackson label. Those recordings are collected on God’s Got it: The Legendary Booker and Jackson Singles. ackson played his breed of gospel blues at churches all over the Baton Rouge area in the 1970s and later as pastor of St. Raymond Divine Spiritual Church in the 1980s.

Beginning in 1929, Leon Pinson traveled the northern Mississippi region alongside his musical partner, the harmonica player Elder Roma Wilson. The pair built a strong following on the church circuit. In the 1940s, Roma Wilson left Mississippi for Detroit, where he would make his first recordings. Meanwhile, Pinson settled in Cleveland, where he played outside of Charlie White barber shop. Later he opened his own shoeshine stand, picking up the guitar when business was slow. Pinson and Wilson were reunited in the 1970s, when Wilson returned to Mississippi. The pair gained widespread acclaim from appearing at several prominent festivals. Pinson was recorded by Georg Mitchell in Cleveland, Mississippi Sept. 18, 1967, cut some sides in 1991 on Global Village and pressed a couple of 45’s himself to sell at gigs.

Boyd Rivers was born near Pickens in Madison County, Mississippi and started playing blues guitar at the age of 13, but three years later switched into spirituals. In 1979 he played at the Mississippi Delta Blues Festival with one song captured on record. In 1980 he was recorded by Axel Küstner with tracks appearing on the Living Country Blues USA series. Sides captured by Axel in 1991 were issued in 2012 on the album You Can’t Make Me Doubt.

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