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Antigone by Jean Anouilh
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Read 15 times. Last read October 26, 2020.

CHERCHONS : 2 x GARDES BRUTALS, 1 x PAGE INNOCENT

Do you have a good francophone voice, and can you imagine yourself as one of the brutal, vulgar guards who arrest the noble princess or as the innocent young page who accompanies the king? If so, you might want to voice one of the three remaining roles available in the virtual production of Antigone that we've been putting together using the open source LARA platform. In the table below, roles in red are not yet taken and the numbers show how many speeches the character has. As you can see, it's only a few lines and shouldn't take you more than half an hour. You will be credited on the book page when the play is finished!



The current draft is posted here (view in Chrome or Firefox). The text is done, and we've added the translations - hover over a pencil icon to get a translation of the preceding sentence, hover over a word to get a translation of that word. Over 98% of the audio is now available.

If you're interested, leave a note here in the comment thread or PM me saying which part you're interested in, and I'll send you details on how to do the recording.
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[Update, Apr 30 2024]

We never managed to find anyone to voice the Second and Third Guards or the Page, but it seemed ridiculous to leave the project permanently stalled for this reason. It's posted in its current nearly-complete form. If anyone does feel moved to do the last few lines, we can add them!
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January 1, 1975 – Finished Reading (Paperback Edition)
November 22, 2008 – Shelved (Paperback Edition)
December 5, 2008 – Shelved as: french (Paperback Edition)
August 24, 2020 – Shelved
August 24, 2020 – Shelved as: french
August 24, 2020 – Shelved as: fun-with-lara
August 24, 2020 – Shelved as: older-women-younger-men
August 24, 2020 – Shelved as: translation-is-impossible
August 24, 2020 – Shelved as: transcendent-experiences
Started Reading
October 26, 2020 – Finished Reading
October 29, 2020 – Shelved (ebook Edition)
October 29, 2020 – Shelved as: fun-with-lara (ebook Edition)
October 29, 2020 – Shelved as: french (ebook Edition)
October 29, 2020 – Shelved as: translation-is-impos... (ebook Edition)
October 29, 2020 – Shelved as: too-sexy-for-maiden-... (ebook Edition)

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message 1: by Chadi (last edited Aug 25, 2020 04:12AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chadi Raheb I like the "translation is impossible" tag :))
I deeply get it. Even though sometimes the translation IS possible, the experience, the feelings we get by reading the translated version is far too different/vague from the original one. So yeah, totally agree on that!

Hope it goes well on LARA. Crossing fingers!


Manny Do you know Umberto Eco's book Mouse or Rat? He gives you hundreds of fascinating examples to show just why translation is impossible :)

LARA has made a remarkable amount of progress over the last two or three months, there are so many nice ideas in progress... LARA Antigone definitely not the least of them!


Chadi Raheb I know Eco but I haven’t read that book. I put it on top of my want-to-read shelf.

I’m so impatient for this LARA edition of Antigone to begin :)


Manny I think we need to start by finding someone to voice Antigone. Have you any ideas? I will ask around my francophone friends.


Manny I made a start on the translations - I've added segment translations for the first two scenes, here. Still rough, but it's quite easy to do. Next, I'll clean them up and add word translations.

If we can get together three people to voice Le Prologue, Antigone and La Nourrice, we could record those scenes as a proof of concept so that it's possible to get an idea of what the finished product is going to look like. They're quite short, if necessary we can redo them later.


Someoneyouknow I'd love to take part in this project. I'm not a native French speaker but I majored in French at university and my spoken French is good. How could I audition for one of the parts?


Manny Hi Someone! That sounds great, I just PMed you details of how to record a few sample lines!


Manny I've now added word translations for the first two scenes. If you open the pages, here, you'll see that you can hover over any word and get a literal translation of it.


message 9: by Manny (last edited Aug 27, 2020 05:33AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Manny Manny wrote: "Hi Someone! That sounds great, I just PMed you details of how to record a few sample lines!"

Someone, thank you so much again for recording them! For the benefit of other people, we now have our first pieces of audio installed in the working LARA document, here. It's the initial lines by le Prologue in Tableau I.


Manny We now have sentence translations for the first nine scenes in the draft version.


message 11: by Amir (new)

Amir Hey Manny, I know someone who is interested in voicing a female role in this play. How shall we initiate it?


Manny Thank you Amir! Probably simplest if your friend mails me at my university address, Emmanuel.Rayner@unige.ch. The role of La Nourrice is still free, or if she is feeling ambitious she could do a second take on the title role, which is of course the most rewarding one. We have scripts that can mix and match different contributions to create multiple versions of the combined text, we could do one version starring Nahed and one starring her. Basically, her call.


message 13: by Amir (new)

Amir thanks Manny. I will share your emails address with and let you and her find the best approach. but probably you need to explain her a bit more about the project (I already gave an intro though).
Cheers


Manny Sounds good, thank you again! If she hasn't already done so, she might like to start by looking at the English version, which is complete. Remember to use Chrome or Firefox.


Chadi Raheb Amir wrote: "Hey Manny, I know someone who is interested in voicing a female role in this play. How shall we initiate it?"

Hey! Happy that she accepted :)


message 16: by Amir (new)

Amir Manny wrote: "Sounds good, thank you again! If she hasn't already done so, she might like to start by looking at the English version, which is complete. Remember to use Chrome or Firefox."

great, she is not writing to you ;)


message 17: by Amir (new)

Amir Chadi wrote: "Amir wrote: "Hey Manny, I know someone who is interested in voicing a female role in this play. How shall we initiate it?"

Hey! Happy that she accepted :)"


Hey, it's cool isn't it? and thanks for letting me know about this project.


Manny Tiffany mailed me, I have just replied!


message 19: by Amir (new)

Amir Manny wrote: "Tiffany mailed me, I have just replied!"

Awesome. I hope it works out...


Chadi Raheb We’ve more than 40% now. Right? 👀
If only we had Créon and Hémon...


Manny I think a little over 40%, yes.

Attention les francophones, this is your chance to star opposite Chadi! She has done a great recording of the title role.


Chadi Raheb :))) Gentil de ta part, Manny! J’adore cette pièce. I hope this all goes well.


Manny Moi aussi je l'adore !

I just realised that the links in the review were out of date, they should now be correct again.


message 24: by D.R. (new) - rated it 4 stars

D.R. Schoel sounds like fun... haven't done anything like this before, but would be up for one of the Guards. Did Antigone a looong time ago in high school (I went to an arts-based high school, F.A.C.E. in Montreal: Fine Arts Core Education).


message 25: by D.R. (new) - rated it 4 stars

D.R. Schoel ...though not sure if this project is still ongoing? I see it started back in 2020...? But there are more recent comments suggesting it isn't finished... en tous cas ...


Manny Salut D.R!

The project went into hibernation while we did three other LARA plays, but Chadi is energetically reviving it. We'd be honoured if you would like to take one of the parts! Le Garde is a great comic role, Gwyn had a lot of fun with it in the the English edition... are you up for that?


message 27: by D.R. (new) - rated it 4 stars

D.R. Schoel sure, I can give it a try...


Manny Fantastic! I will PM you instructions a little later for doing the recording :)


Chadi Raheb Thanks for participating D.R.!
Yay! 🥳


message 30: by D.R. (new) - rated it 4 stars

D.R. Schoel Bonjour Chadi,

Je ferai de mon mieux avec le rôle de Le Garde, même si j'ai un accent québécois, anglo... Ça me rappelle mes années de théâtre au secondaire.

Bonne année!


message 31: by Chadi (last edited Jan 06, 2022 11:50PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chadi Raheb Je vois aucun problème avec avoir un accent, D.R.! Au contraire, je trouve qu’il est important pour ceux qui apprennent des langues de l’entendre de différents accents donc on pourrait les comprendre n’importe où on va 😊

Merci, et bonne année à vous aussi! :)


message 32: by Yassine (new)

Yassine Je voudrais bien essayer :)


Manny Bonjour Yassine ! Quel rôle voudriez-vous jouer ?


message 34: by Yassine (new)

Yassine J'ai 45 ans donc peut être le role de l'un des gardes ou celui du Page, je reste ouvert cependant à d'autres propsoitions :D


Manny Le Deuxième Garde et le Troisième Garde sont des rôles très petits, quelques répliques seulement (mais en même temps assez rigolo). Le Messager est à mon avis plus interessant, il pourrait avoir n'import quel âge. Mais à vous de décider !


message 36: by Yassine (new)

Yassine Ca marche pour le messager, ca me va :)


Manny Super ! J'aime bien son discours, c'est effrayant et beau.

Enregistrer c'est très facile, je vais vous envoyer les détails prochainement.


Manny Ah, vous acceptez pas des messages Goodreads. Puis-je vous envoyer un courriel ?


message 39: by Yassine (new)

Yassine Oui oui bien sûr je ne sais pas pourquoi les messages ne sont pas acceptés, c'est peut-être quelque chose dans mes paramètres


Manny Si vous m'enverrez une message, je peux peut-être répondre.


message 41: by Yassine (new)

Yassine Moi non plus je ne peux pas vous envoyer de message, je penses c'est parce qu'on n'est pas "Amis" (I'm just following you)


Manny Pardon - maintenant j'ai accepté votre invitation, ça marche mieux ?


Manny ... et je vous ai envoyé une message :)


Chadi Raheb J’ai écouté les lignes du Messager il y a quelques jours. Alors je vois que la voix c’est celle de Yassine!
Merci, Yassine! Great job! :)


message 45: by Théo d'Or (new)

Théo d'Or " Do you have a good francophone voice, and can you imagine yourself as a noble prince ...."

Si ,Si, Si !!


Chadi Raheb 😂


message 47: by Théo d'Or (new)

Théo d'Or But I'd have some little requests. I need Eurydice's permission, firstly.
2. Can I improvise ?
And 3 - Can my suicide be replaced by a rebirth ?
J'aime bien la vie...


Manny Théodore wrote: "But I'd have some little requests. I need Eurydice's permission, firstly.
2. Can I improvise ?
And 3 - Can my suicide be replaced by a rebirth ?
J'aime bien la vie..."


Eurydice has given her approval (I had to go all the way to Hades to get it, sorry about the delay). But no improvisation and no rebirth, sorry.

If you're still in, I will PM you instructions!


message 49: by Théo d'Or (new)

Théo d'Or Honoré de ton offre, Manny. Mais je ne pense pas être encore prêt, à bien des égards, un problème majeur étant une laryngite dont je n'arrive pas à me débarrasser depuis quelques semaines. J'espère qu'il me passera, bientôt, je te ferai signe au bon moment, si l'offre sera toujours valable. Je te remercie, encore une fois.


Manny Quelques semaines?! C'est dure ça :( Bonne guérison !


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