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Third volume of bound quarterly articles. Articles included: Frigate Design in the 18th Century, The King George V class, HMS Cochrane, Project Guppy, British Super-Heavy Guns, Shells at Sevastopol, US Fleet Carrier design, Von Der Tan, T class Submarines, The New Orleans class, Imperial Russian Navy Cruiser, Helicopter goes to war, Milne, The Paddle Frigate Guadaloupe, USS United States, The 18" Gun Monitores, P49, and U-48
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adContributors to this
volume
Itis the policy of WARSHIP to acquire the
services of some of the world’s best-known
‘warship historians. Therefore most of the
contributors to this volume are established
authors and recognised authorities in their
fields. Some of these are listed below.
DK Brown isa prominent British naval
architect, with a particular interest in
Victorian warship design,
TA Buxton lectures in naval architecture at
the University of Newcastle, and has
recently published a definitive work on
British big-gun monitors,
NJM Campbell has written on a wide
range of technical and historical subjects;
he has also made major contributions to
the two volumes so far published of
Conway's All the World’s Fighting Ships.
Robert Dumas is a French naval researcher,
currently working on a technical history of
French battleships.
Norman Friedman works for the Hudson
Institute in New York, His many
publications include Modern Warship
Design and Development.
Peter Hodges is a retired Royal Navy
officer and an expert on weapon systems.
With Norman Friedman he wrote
Destroyer Weapons of World War I and
his history of battleship main armament
will be published shortly.
John Jordan, a teacher by profession, has
‘made a particular study of contemporary
warship design, including ships of the
Warsaw Pact navies
John Lambert is well-known for his
detailed drawings of smaller warships and
‘gun mountings.
John Roberts has published many articles,
monographs and warship drawings. He is
the co-author of British Battleships of
World War 2, and has been editor of
Warship since 1979,
Robert L Scheina is the official historian of
the US Coast Guard. He is also an
authority on South American naval affairs,
about which he has written extensively.
Adam Smigielski is a young Polish naval
architect who has written a number of
articles for magazines in Poland and the
West. He is also a fine draughtsman and
contributed line drawings to Conway's All
the World's Fighting Ships 1922-46.
Edwin Sieche is an Austrian naval
historian, author and translator.
Larry Sowinski is an American
modelmaker and an authority on
camouflage, about which he has written
two books.WARSHIP
VOLUME III
Edited by John Roberts
Conway Maritime Press
Naval Institute PressWARSHIP Volume III
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Editor John Roberts
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Manufactured inthe United KingdomContents
Editorial (No 9)
Frigate Design in the 18th Century Part 1
by ROBERT GARDINER
THE KING GEORGE V class Part 1 by ROBERT DUMAS
‘TROMP by JOHN JORDAN
HMS COCHRANE by JOHN ROBERTS
Project Guppy by NORMAN FRIEDMAN
A’sand A’s
‘TRIBAL class Frigates by PETER HODGES
Warship Pictorial: PRINZ EUGEN
British Super-Heavy Guns Part | by NJ MCAMPBELL
Editorial (No 10)
Shells at Sevastopol by D K BROWN
Frigate Design in the 18th Century Part 2
by ROBERT GARDINER
Warship Pictorial: LUPO
‘The US Fleet Carrier Design of 1945
by NORMAN FRIEDMAN
VON DER TANN by JOHN ROBERTS
‘The KING GEORGE V class Part 2 by ROBERT DUMAS,
T class Submarines Part 1 by JOHN LAMBERT
British Super-Heavy Guns Part 2 by NJ MCAMPBELL
Editorial (No 11)
‘The NEW ORLEANS class by NORMAN FRIEDMAN
Imperial Russian Navy Cruiser VARYAG
by ADAMSMIGIELSKI
‘The Helicopter Goes to War by ROBERT L SCHEINA
Warship Pictorial: The German Navy in the 1870s
MILNE by JOHN ROBERTS
‘The KING GEORGE V class Part 3 by ROBERT DUMAS
British Super-Heavy Guns Part 3 by NJ MCAMPBELL
T class Submarines Part 2. by JOHN LAMBERT.
‘The Padale Frigate GUADALOUPE by D K BROWN
Book Reviews
Editorial (No 12)
‘The First of the Super Carriers:
USS UNITED STATES by NORMAN FRIEDMAN
‘The 18inch Gun in British Monitors by | A BUXTON
‘The KING GEORGE V class Part 4 by ROBERT DUMAS
A’sand A’s
P49 by JOHN ROBERTS
U48— Germany’s Top-Scoring Submarine
by PIERRE HERVIEUX
Warship Pictorial: Guns of the Ironclads
Frigate Design in the 18th Century Part 3
by ROBERT GARDINER
British Super-Heavy Guns Part 4 by NJ MCAMPBELL,
‘Technical Topics: Roughness and Fouling
by DK BROWN
107
110
123
135
145
146
154
168
174
180
182
196
202
21
213
217
218meatAfter guiding Warship through its
carly years and seeing the magazine
established as a leading journal
Antony Preston has retired as editor
of the magazine to follow up his
many other interests in the field of
aval journalism. Myself, as the new
editor, and the other members of
che staff of Warship wish him well
with all his future projects.
This edition of Warship sees the
sstroduction of a letters page;
although this is not strictly a correct,
Gescription. We have called it A’s
end A’s, the abbreviation of
Alterations and Additions, which
was used by the Admiralty’s design
separtments to describe general
modifications carried out to
‘warships during refit. This title is
particularly appropriate as the
column is intended primarily asa
platform to provide additions and
corrections to previously published
material together with any
information which is considered to
be of general interest to our readers.
in of this information is not
restricted and may come from a
reader's letter, an author (as
emonstrated in this issue with
Friedrich Prasky’s additions to his
article in Warship 6), the staff of
Warship or any other source.
Friedrich Prasky’s list of the faults
of the Viribus Unitis class brought to
mind the fact that adverse criticism
‘of warship design, both past and
present, has generally and often
unfairly been directed at thei
designers.
The first British battlecruisers of
the Invincible and Indefatigable
classes for example have been
described as ‘bad designs’ which
sives the impression that the DNC’s
Editorial
department was in some way
incompetent. In fact the main faults
of these ships were the result of a
bad specification for which Admiral
Fisher and the other members of
the Board of Admiralty were
responsible. The design department
produced exactly what was asked of
them and in this respect the ships,
can only be described as good
designs.
Many other factors outside the
warship designer's control can also
affect the quality of the finished
product, principally financial
restrictions and the competence of
the shipyard which constructs the
ship. Both these latter combined to
reduce the quality of the
Austro-Hungarian dreadnought
Scent Istvan which might otherwise
have been a first class vessel. The
Viribus Unitis class, to which she
belonged, were smaller ships than
the designer would have wished
which, combined with a heavy main
armament,meant their stability and
speed were less than might have
been provided. Limited funds also
prevented the setting up of a
programme of underwater
protection experiments, as were
carried out by the majority of the
other naval powers, and the torpedo
defence system of the class suffered
in consequence. These faults
together with poor quality riveting
‘were major contributory factors in
the loss of the Szent Istvan which
capsized and sank after being.
torpedoed in 1918 (see Warship 6)
Asa result the designer, Siegfried
Popper, was severely reprimanded
which, considering the difficulties he
had to overcome, was hardly fair. It
is always best to consider all the
possible origins of faults before
hanging the designer from the
nearest tree.
‘Amore recent example of
financial restriction can be found in
this issue in Peter Hodges
description of the Tribal class
frigates, although in this case the
author does not direct his criticisms
at Bath — which says much for the
author and makes a pleasant
change.
John RobertsFIGURE 1: THE PARTS OF A WOODEN SHIP
1. HANGING KNEE (when positioned diagonally —to
SosSeenme frre they were nown a
cries
2. LODGING KNEE
3 DECK CLAMP (in French practice this was often more
santa)
4. WATERWAY TIMBER (in French practice his was
Suully mere substantial and often eated down onto
eben
5. BECEIBAM (romed otto inbesurhed
together
6. CARLINGS
&: LepGes
& KEEL,
5. KEELSON
10) FALSE REEL.
TI, ATRAME (or Framed Bend, made up of to sets of
fatto timbers bolted side by sie) The individual parts
aressfolows
hat toor
i: floorimber (The two floor-tibers ofa fame, and
thespace betwesn them and the nex pai, s known a
{Poomrand space" ands crucl measurement of the
lightness heaviness of construction in any vessel)
Ist fttock
Si, Dado
©: dndnumoce
f, Athtuttck (obscured by the beam knees, but above
the 2nd futock)
shiek
Top timbers
iY Ghdek (Ihe French used a simple buttoint without a
Chock to connet the fttock timbers this was no as
sturdy)
12, FLOOR RIDERS (There were also riders igher up the
hulfsides known asuttock riders" and Yop riers)
FIGURE 2: INTERIOR CONSTRUCTIONAL DETAILS
UPPER DECK BEAM
HANGING KNEE.
CHOCK IN THE THROAT OF KNEE,
INTERCOSTAL PACKING
AIRSPACE TO VENTILATE TIMBERS,
DECK CLAMP OR BEAM SHELF
INNER PLANKING.
| SPIRKETTING
WATERWAY
40, SECTION OF FRAME,
AL. LODGING KNEE
12, VENTILATION SPACE
13, DECK CLAMP.
14, CEILING OR INNER PLANKING
16 SPIRKETTING
18,
vw.
20,
21
INTERCOSTAL PACKING,
REVERSE HANGING KNFE OR STANDARD
ORLOP DECK BEAM (note no waterway on this deck)
FLOOR RIDER
BEAM CHOCK COMBINED WITH IRON BEAM
KNEE BRACKET.
22, IRON WEDGES TO TAKE UP TRANSVERSE
MOVEMENT (ie racking stresses)
INTERCOSTAL PACKING
GUN DECK BEAMS
PART OF FRAME EXPOSED AT GUNPORT (note
that not al small ships had ports on this deck)
MAINWALE
OUTER PLANKING:
‘This drawing was based on Keith Hobbs’ illustration in Model
Shipwright 35 and was tedrawn with his permission. 1-12
represents standard English practice inthe period under
{iseussion: 13 onwards Was practice adopted in the Royal
Navy towards the end ofthe eighteenth century. but in some
sways compares with mid-century French practice. In both
teasesit was the result of shortages ofthe expensive ‘grown’
timer for prope knees, whichafeted the French NavyItmay come asa surprise to many
to find that sailing warships can be
treated in the same fashion as
modem vessels ~ certainly very little
of technical nature has ever been
published. However, ships-of-
the-line and frigates were
built in classes, the vessels of which
differed very little from one
another, just ike modern warships,
and their particulars, performance
and development can be described
in similar detail. The one major
difference is that little of the design
discussion has survived, if indeed it
was ever written down. This is not
to say that eighteenth century
warships were not designed for
specific functions, it was simply that
what modern navies call ‘staff
requirements’ did not change, were
perfectly understood by all, and
consequently were rarely even
mentioned. This leaves the
present-day historian with the
difficult task of reconstructing the
staff requirements’ from an analysis
of the characteristics of the vessels
themselves.
While it would be possible to
write about classes and their
particulars, the ships themselves are
ot well-known to modern readers,
and the following general study of
the differences between British and
French frigate design is felt to be of
more interest. Everybody who has
read any naval history knows that
jghteenth century French design is
FRIGATE
DESIGN
INTHE
18th CENTURY
PARTI
BY ROBERT GARDINER
supposed to be far superior, and
that the chief means of
improvement in the Royal Navy
was copying captured vessels. The
truth is very different, and as wi
contemporary ships, it only proves
how misleading comparisons can
be, and how meaningless are terms
like ‘better’ and ‘best’ when applied
to ship design, Ultimately itis a
question of what requirements and
restraints were placed on the
designer and how well he overcame
them.
Part I of this article covers the
period of the 1744-48 war and is,
concerned principally with
constructional practices; Part 2
deals with the Seven Years War
(1756-63) and design differences,
and comparative sailing
performances; while Part 3 is
devoted to later vessels and the staff
requirements of the two navies.
ENGLISH CRUISER DESIGN
1700-1744
After the innovations of the late
seventeenth century when the
English had adopted long, low hulls
and fine lines, supposedly inspired
by Dunkirk privateers, there was a
reversal of policy. These so-called
“rigate-bul principles had been
extended up the battle-order as far
as third rates (60-70 gun ships)
which started a tradition of
complaint about crankness (ie
instability) and lack of freeboard to
the lower deck guns that lasted —
with less and less justification —for
more than half a century. It may
have been that the English
sacrificed other qualities for sheer
speed: certainly these ships did not
carry their guns well, were accused
of decaying rapidly, and probably
were less stable and seaworthy than
their tactical usage required
‘An attempt was made to remedy
these faults with the first proper
‘Establishment’ in 1706. The
Establishments were designed to
standardise ships and shipbuilding,
by fixing the dimensions and
scantlings (ie the sizes of structural
timbers) for each rate. In 1706, 20
and 30 gun ships were not included
but the first full Establishment was
promulgated in 1719. England was
at war with Spain and this probably
provided the impetus towards
improved and extended
standardisation: it was certainly
very thorough in its provisions and
no other Establishment was ratified
until England was again at war. The
1706 regulations had produced
relatively beamier and hence more
stable vessels, and the trend was
continued in 1719. Judging by the
details of the scantlings, robustness
and seaworthiness seem to have
been the requirements, which
should have produced the durable,
low-maintenance vessels that a
peace-time administration would
favour.A model of a 1741 Establishment 20 gun
ship, Note te oarpots on the lower deck, the
Smal ballast port amiships an the 2
unport aft of amshper The channels ae
Felow the upper deck pors Earle 20 gun
gushed byte lower
‘deck gnports being uth
svey separated on 173 ships and on 1719
Ships there were'nogunports ata on the
lower deck.
Nua
‘The Establishments are always
ctiticised for discouraging
innovation, but the real reason for
the slow rate of improvement in the
1720s and ’30s was the absence of
the incentive of war. Moreover, the
Establishments laid down
dimensions and scantlings and
concerned themselves with the
structure of the ships but allowed
considerable leeway in designing
the bull form. This was exploited
particularly for small ships which in
eace-time were the rates most
‘equently employed and whose
relative cheapness would not
discourage experiment.
Alterations to the Establishment
were proposed in 1733, most ships
having their beams increased to give
all ships the same length-to-breadth
ratio. Although not ratified most
new vessels were built to these
specifications and these were the
newest vessels in service when war
with Spain broke out in 1739. It was
soon obvious that what had been
adequate in 1719 was outclassed
twenty years later. Warships of
equivalent rates in Continental
navies had grown in size and
possessed superior sailing qualities
and, in the earlier years of the war,
English cruisers had little success.
Asan interim measure, increased
dimensions were proposed in 1741
and, although again not signed by
the King in Council, were widely
adopted. It was the first general
increase in length since 1719 and,
for the 60 gun ships since 1691!
(Since speed and waterline length
are related itis interesting that so
many French frigates were captured
by 60s or 64s—see Table 1 —
relatively, the longest ships in the
Navy, Proportionally the 20 gun
8 enjoyed the largest increase,
in icating perhaps that they were
most in need off. Certainly they
‘were much smaller than the next
rate, the 40s, since the 30s proposed
in 1719 were not built and
thereafter the class lapsed.
However, it was not just size that
was the problem with the sixth
rates, since they were built to a
clumsy two-decked design. The
lower deck — for historical reasons
called the ‘Gun Deck’ ~ only had
ports for 2 gunsa side, the
remaining space being taken up
with oar ports, but this deck had to
be far enough above the waterline
to allow the guns to be worked
when the ship was heeling or rolling
in a seaway. This meant that the
“Upper Deck’ —in effect, the main
gun deck — was even higher out of,
the water, with the resulting
problems of stability and windage
caused by the relatively tall hull
sides. This otherwise irrational
disposition of armament had one
advantage in that it allowed a few
larger guns to be carried low down
in small ships. The earlier English
24s sometimes carried a pair of
9pdrs on the Gun Deck to
supplement their Upper Deck
6pdrs, and the French built a
number of demi-batterie frigates of
28 to 36 guns with between 8 and
12 guns of 8 or 12pdr calibre on the
Gun Deck beneath an Upper Deck
armament of 6pdrs.
However, France also built
smaller vessels with one gun deck,
below which there was sometimes
another complete deck clear of any
ports. This deck was placed at or
below the waterline which resulted
ina hull with lower topsides and
potentially greater stability. In 1744
France launched the first of these,
La Medeée of 26 guns, thus
introducing what came to be
accepted as the true ‘frigate-form’,
twas this type of vessel which
opposed the obsolescent and
inadequate English 20 and 24 gun
ships when France entered the War
of Austrian Succession in 1744,
FRENCH CRUISERS CAPTURED
1744-1748
During the course of the war a
number of French cruisers
corresponding in size to English
fifth and sixth rates were captured
and the more important of these are
listed in Table 1. These vessels wereFRENCH FRIGATES CAPTURED 1744-48
TABLE 1
Nene Tonnage Armament Captured
‘A: PRIVATEERS,
LEOPARD 438 22x 9par 270 1746by
(Margate) 228 9pdr,2.x4pdr Windsor, 60
DUCDECHARTRES 354 32,calibreunknown 18 Jan 1976 by
(nverness) 20% 9%pdr2x3pdr— Edinburgh, 64
TYGRE 576 26x 9pdr 23 Feb 1747 by
(not brought in) Fatkdand, 44
BELLONE, sat 36,calibre unknown. Feb L747 by
(Beliona) 24x 9pdr,6x4pdr Nottingham, 60
DEUX COURONNES 639 24x 9pdr 5 May 1747 by
(Ranger) 24x 9%pdr.6x4pdr Gloucester, 50
: NATIONAL FRIGATES
MEDEE, 6702 26x 9par 4 April 1744 by
(Boscawen, privateer) > Dreadnought, 60
DAUPHIN’ 395 24,calibre unknown Jan 1747 by
(Richmond) 2 Admical
Townsend's sad
FAVORETTE m4 30,calibreunknown Jan 1747 by
(Mediay’s Price) ? Medivay, 60
PANTHERE 481 20,calbre unknown ‘July 1747 by
(Amazon) 24 6pdr Monmouth, 64
EMBUSCADE 746 40,calbre unknown 21 April 1746 by
(Ambuscade) 26x I2pdr, 14 6pdr Defiance, 60
SuBTILE, 2 26,calibre unknown —-19Nov 1746 by
(not brougi in) Portland, 50
RENOMMEE, 669 30,calibre unknown 27 Sept 1747 by
(Renown) 24x 9pdr,6x-4pdr Dover, 44
CASTOR 6s 26 30 Oct 1747 by
(not brougtu in) Hampshire, 0
Name and armament in italics is as borne in
the Royal Navy. By way of comparison
English 24 gun ships were 498 tons (1741
Exabishment} or 08 fons (1743
Establishment
x 3pdr. The earlier sixth rates of the 1733
Establishment measured 429 tons and
carried 20 x 6pdr.
jand mounted 22 x 9pdr and
surveyed in detail and most of the
surveys survive, In most cases a
combination of the information
from this source and from the
Progress Books, which detail the
extent, cost and duration of repairs
and refits, gives a clear picture of
the construction of these vessels.
‘The most outstanding feature of the
surveys, however, is the repetition
of the same criticisms of all vessels.
From the consistency of this
critique, it becomes obvious that
French and English styles of
construction were radically
different,
The surveyors’ basic comments
on French ships can be summarised
as follows:
1. The internal arrangements were
inadequate for Royal Navy
warships. They had too few cabins,
platforms in the hold, store rooms
‘or magazines; some could not stow
enough provisions and others did
not have satisfactory messing
arrangements.
2. They were too lightly built, with
insufficient scantling and deck
beams and frame timbers too far
apart.
3. They were too lightly fastened,
being short on structural members
enerally and beam knees
Support ig brackets) in particular.
Each frame, knee or beam had too
few fastenings either bolts, nails or
treenails (oak pegs).
They were shoddily built of
iferior timber and second-rate
workmanship, crudely finished.
Furthermore, instead of treenails
5
and bolts, too much use was made
of iron nails which corroded and
to the condition known as
il-sickness’, a diagnosis
frequently applied to ailing French
warships.
5. This gave rise to the final
accusation, that French ships were
not built to last and consequently
were costly to maintain,
Each of these assertions is worth
alittle more attention.
Internal Arrangements. To some
extent this simply reflects different
practices in the two navies, the
Royal Navy, for example, preferring
‘magazines aft where they were
considered drier. However, the
French Navy seems to have pai
less attention to the requirements of
Jong periods at sea and in particular
the well-being of the crew.
Light Building. When taken with
the accusation of light fastening, this
is a criticism of central importance
to the understanding of the French
style of construction. All wooden
ships’ hulls distorted to some extent
during their lives but the more
lightly they were built the more
rapidly this would occur and the
more serious the resulting hogging,
sagging or racking (transverse
distortion). The essence of ‘light’ or
‘heavy’ building is the scantling of
the frame timbers and the distance
between them, which in shipwrights’
terminology is known as ‘room-
and-space’. This also applied
to deck beams and generally the
lack of longitudinal strength was
considered hall mark of French
construction. The speed of many
vessels was associated with this light
style of building but paradoxically
the better sailing qualities of such
ships was quickly destroyed when
the hull hogged and/or warped.
Similarly, the stress on these
delicate hulls must have been a
major factor in the lack of duration
also attributed to French frigates.
Light Fastening, Surveying officers
were often ordered explicitly to take
particular account of the fastening
of French prizes and of the
ironwork in general. The most
fundamental problem was the
French system of attaching the
beams to the side of the ship, which
employed a longitudinal deckclamp6
below the beam, a rebated
waterway above and sometimes
hanging (ie vertical) knees. The
strength of the beam/hull side joint
decided much of the ship’s
transverse rigidity and also decided
the weight of armament a deck
could carry and so the Royal Navy
felt its system of substantial hanging
and lodging (horizontal) knees was
eminently superior. French hulls
tended to suffer from the effects of
their own gunfire and the strains of
the masts and rigging, Therefore,
French ships had fewer guns and
less lofty masts and spars for a given
tonnage than equivalent Engli
vessels onicaly, because oftheir
robust construction which could
stand the higher ratio of guns,
English vessels have been regarded
as over-gunned.
Shoddy Building. The Royal
Dockyards set very high standards,
they frequently criticised the
English commercial shipbuilders ~
and there are frequent references in
the surveys to the French use of
poor materials (mainly softwoods)
and inadequate seasoning, or
dubious practices such as short
scarph-joints, Many common
French techniques, such as the
butt-jointing of the futtock timbers
ina frame (as opposed to the
English use of scarphs and chocks)
was considered shoddy. Never-
theless many of these reviled Gallic
shortcomings were little more than
further extensions of the desire to
build a hull as lightly as possible,
which goes to strengthen the feeling
that light construction was a
response to some officially
sanctioned ‘staff requirement’
Lack of Duration. The surveys
reiterate that because these ships
are lightly built they will soon
deteriorate and will either cost a lot
to refit or will be very quickly
rendered unserviceable. Certainly
many of the Freneh prizes enjoyed
very short active careers by English
standards —indeed, some as short as,
5 years.
‘This, then, was the accepted view
of French frigates among the Navy's
administrators but itis not the one
known to history. This is partly
explained by the case of the French
30 gun frigate Favorette. In January
1745 Favorette surrendered to the
Medway, 60, and became known as
the Medway's Prize, a common if
unimaginative way of naming
captured vessels. Her captor,
Commodore Burmett, wrote to the
Navy Board saying that she was a
fine ship and although only
mounting 30 guns, was a strong,
well-built vessel which, with little
expense, could be macle into a
proper (two-decked) 44 gun ship.
Being on a foreign station (the West
Indies) Burnett was not open to
contradition but a survey carried
out in September 1749 after
Medway’s Prize returned to
England found her to be a weak
ship, particularly in the upper works
(she would never have carried the
additional topsides necessary to
make her a 44); with no plaiforms
or storerooms in the fore hold, the
beams only rebated into thick pieces
of timber and the sheer much
broken (ie the hull was bad
hogged). Furthermore, the French
reputation for poor durability and
high maintenance costs led the
surveyors to claim that the ship
“being a French bottom (ie hull),
will require a middling if not a large
repair’
This case - which has
innumerable parallels clearly
demonstrates why historians should
be sceptical of claims made by
captors about design, construction
and sailing qualities. It was in the
captor’s interest to exaggerate the
prize’s performance, since this
‘magnified his achievement in
bringing her to battle and, knowing
the Navy Board’s concern with the
material aspects of ship design,
construction was always said to be
strong and in healthy condition. The
captor was also a salesman for his
prize since he stood to earn far
more if bought by the Navy than if
sold to a commercial concern. This
is also true of the distant
commanders-in-chief who took a
share of any prize-money made on
their station and also had the power
to ‘buy in’ any prizes they thought
worthy. Whereas in England the
surveying officers reported directly
toa disinterested Navy Board, on
foreign stations the surveyors w
responsible to the local
commander-in-chief who,
consequently, could influence the
valuation. Naturally, to allay
suspicion, the commanders always
reported that the prizes were worth
the money.
‘The Navy Board was not fooled
and periodically complained to the
Admiralty about the practice but
there was no easy alternative and
nothing was done. Unfortunately,
most naval history concerns itself
with either biography or the larger
issues of tactics and strategy, and in
both areas the correspondence of
sea-officers is widely used. This
tends to give a one-sided view of
technical matters to a historian
concerned with other aspects and a
lack of understanding of the interest
behind the sea-officers’ praise has
led to the widespread acceptance of
the myth of over-whelming French
design superiority throughout the
eighteenth century. This snot to
say that France did not build ships
which found favour in England and
the Panthére captured in July 1745
is.a case in point. A full survey was
not transmitted to the Admiralty
but when their Lordships queried
the twenty-four 6pdrs suggested by
the Navy Board (the Admiralty
wanted Spars), the Navy Board
quoted the survey assessment that
Amazon, as she was renamed, was
‘not so strong built as the English 24
gun ships, her masts being taunter
(taller) in proportion’ which would
not stand the strain of 9pdrs without
damage to the fabric of the hull and
her performance under sail. Once
again itis a case of the light
construction of the French vessel
preventing her being armed with
the same weight of metal as an
English ship of the same tonnage
id the Navy Board, realising that
the style of construction was an
integral feature of the design, was
reluctant to alter the balance of the
design,
The largest frigate captured
during the 1744-48 war was the
Embuscade, 40 guns, taken by the
Defiance, 60,0n 21 April 1746. The
survey of this vessel complained of
the usual lack of beam knees and
fastenings in the spirketting and
clamps but, although the deck was
planked with fir and the fastenings
‘made too little use of treenails, the
surveying officers concluded that
“the works are very well wrought’.However, in her state of repair she
seemed 2°3 years old whereas she
‘was hardly more than a year from
launching. Once again the Navy
Board, anxious not to damage the
qualities of the French ship,
suggested an armament o!
‘owenty-six Opdrs, ten 6pdrs on the
quarterdeck and four more on the
forecastle, ‘as the said ship is not so
strongly built as the English
‘Your gun ships’, the nearest
equivalent in rating and tonnage,
although not in armament.
Consequently the Admiralty
insisted on the substitution of
12pdrs for the 9pdrs.
Captain Powlett of the Defiance,
not enjoying the lax surveying.
standards of a foreign station, had
his prize valued at less than his own
estimate and disputed the price. The
ship was resurveyed and the second
survey is worth quoting at some
length because it is more explicit in
its exposition of the differences
between English and French
practice.
‘The surveyors observed that
‘there isa great difference in the
manner of her building to the
methods practiced in the English
Navy, great deficiencies in the
strength, and as we conceive, in the
duration of ships built with foreign
timber.’ She suffered from the usual
deficiencies of too great a distance
between frames and insufficient
beam knees, breast hooks, transom
knees and fastenings. Five lower
deck beams were not kneed at all
and the rest had only one dagger
knee with two bolts in each arm,
‘which although they have a
waterway pricked down (rebated),
bolted through the sides and beams,
itis not equal to our manner of
having one hanging and one lodging
knee to each end of the beam,
bolted with ten bolts through the
side and the beam. Spirketting,
clamps and works in general are
slightly fasteried. The upper deck
has not a sufficient number of knees,
and bolts. The quarterdeck has no
Knees to the beams, trusting to a Gin
waterway let down on the beams
and bolted through the side and to
the beams, which we judge is not
sufficient to carry a proper weight of
metal as beams kneed in His
Majesty's ships.’ Furthermore, the
underwater planking was fastened
with iron nails and the topsides were
lower than HM ships, which would
make her wetter in a seaway or on a
wind, Apart from shoddy
workmanship, all the other standard
criticisms are expounded and at
length.
La Subiile of 26 guns was taken
by the Portland, 50, in December
1746. Although she was not very
old there was considerable decay in
her frames and she could only be
fitted for 3-4 years’ service without
a Great Repair. Since they
estimated that the necessary work
would cost £7. 2s, 0d. per ton —
more than a new 24 gun ship ~ they
did not recomment purchase.
However, they made an interesting
suggestion: should the Admiralty
‘want ‘the preserving of her body"
(that is, hull form) they proposed
having 2 merchant yard replace the
defective timbers, and keep strictly
to the present scantlings, shape of
the body, and dimensions of her
masts, yards and sails.’ This reveals
an awareness that the Admiralty
was on the look-out for a new
model for a small cruiser-design.
‘The attention to the details of
scantling and spar dimensions also
demonstrates that the Navy Board
regarded a ship design asa physical
entity — not just a hull shape but a
hull of particular style of
construction.
Probably the best known of all
the small cruisers captured in thi
war was the Renomuné, a 669 ton,
30 gun vessel of the new frigate
orm, taken on 27 September 1747
by the Dover, 44 guns. The survey,
carried out with regard to having t©
make the fewest possible
alterations, called attention to the
lack of lodging knees and fastenings
to the beams and to the distance
between beams but on the other
hand was favourably impressed by
the frames: ‘are all framed bends in
the French manner, both timbers as
joined are from Lit 2in to Ift 6in
and in the room between from 4in
to Tin’ which was much closer than
usual French cruiser practice.
Furthermore, they found the ship
‘well built’ and having ‘that
appearance, and a very promising
body for going, and common fame
says she Outsailed everything...”
Renown, as she was renamed,
became a favourite cruiser having a
longer career than any of the other
frigates under discussion, finally
being broken up in May 1771. This
may appear to contradict the
French reputation for lack of
durability but Renown’s upkeep was
in 1751 it was found that she
wanted a S-month Great Repair,
whereas it only took 9-10 months to
build a new frigate of that size, and
for awhile breaking her up was
strongly considered. After the
Great Repair of 1751 she was
reported unfit for service again in
1755 but it was not until the
beginning of the Seven Years War
that she received the necessary
attention, which took 12 months
and cost as much as a new 32. Even
so she required another large (that
is, Great) repair in 1764 and a
complete 18 month rebuild by 1770
when it was considered that the
estimated £7000 might be better
spent elsewhere. She was broken up
at Woolwich.
One other frigate was captured
but not purchased during the war.
‘The Castor of 605 tons had been
built at Quebec in 1744, with knees,
breathooks and so forth’of local
timber, haughtily dismissed as “a
kind of pine’, However, the
surveying officers found her
‘well-built, although they qualified
this with the somewhat supercilious
‘in the French taste’. Unfortunately,
she was reputed to have become a’
poor sir, which was put down to
having been built in North America
since ‘ships built in those countries
are very uncertain in duration,
many of them decaying soon’. Itis
rarely realised that a wooden ship's
shape can alter considerably during
her lifetime which usually affects
her sailing performance adversely.
Obviously the more slightly built
and lightly fastened French ships
‘were more prone to this than their
stronger, more durable, English
counterparts, Speed could be
achieved at the expense of
robustness but the design would
have to accept a short optimum life
for the hull.
“THE FRENCH INFLUENCE’
To fully appreciate the significance
of the subsequent developments it is8
necessary to digress at this point
into naval administration.
Essentially the Royal Navy was run
by a permanent bureaucracy; the
favy Board, which looked after the
design, construction, maintenance,
victualling and manning of the
ships. However, the Admiralty
dictated overall policy and took the
decisions (often advised by the
Navy Board) which the Board was
supposed to execute. Theoretically,
the Admiralty was superior in
authority but it was an ad hoc
collection of politicians and senior
sea officers appointed by the
Government of the day, whereas
the Navy Board, containing sea
officers and civil servants, was a
permanent professional body; and,
with the contempt of the
professional for the amateur, often
set itself against its nominal masters.
‘The ambiguity of the situation made
the Navy Board sensitive to
‘uninformed’ criticism (real or
imagined) and its dealings with the
Admiralty were guarded at best and
sometimes openly antagonist.
‘As far as ship design was
concerned there was a division of
“feed-back’, dockyard officials
reporting to the Navy Board but
sea-officers to the Admiralty.
Bearing in mind that sea-officers
often complained about their ships
as an excuse for failure or covert
praise of achievement, the
Admiralty’s view of a design could
easily be at odds with that of the
Navy Board. Furthermore the
junior body had very little access to
sea-officers’ opinions, except at
second-hand when passed on by the
Admiralty, which was usually
construed as criticism of the
designer and his department, This is
possibly the background to the
setting up of the Sailing Quality
Reports, which would give the Navy
Board not only design information
but reasonably objective evidence
from sea-officers with which to
counter complaints to the
Admiralty.
However, by the mid-1740s the
Admiralty had a corpus of opinion
that pointed to inadequacies in
English ships, despite the 1741
alterations. In February the
‘Admiralty ordered the Navy Board
to stop work on a number of
recently laid down
line-of-battle-ships and the senior
body set up a commission to decide
ona new Establishment, chaired by
a technically minded Admiral, Sir
John Nortis. The Navy Board
resented the usurpation of its
authority and vigorously and
suecessfully opposed some of the
more radical proposals of the
Admiralty. Possibly the Navy Board
was kept in ignorance of the scope
of Norris’ brief and the minutiae of
his findings for, although the
Establishment was ratified in
August 1745, the Navy Board was
not told that the commission had
produced its own Establishment
draughts until January 1746.
‘Although progress was stopped
on ships-of-the-line in the early
stages of building, new cruisers were
ordered while the commission was
still in session. Two 24s were
ordered in June 1745 which appear
to have been an experiment or at
Jeast an interim measure for,
although built to 1741 dimensions,
their hull form was taken from a
merchant shipbuilder’s (Allen, of
Deptford) model. However, the
first 24 of the 1745 Establishment,
the Arundel, was ordered on 3
October 1745 and two more
followed during 1746.
Possibly the Admiralty was not
very hopeful about the qualities of
the compromise designs of 1745,
for some of the surveys of French
prizes around this time mention the
‘preserving of the body’ (Subtile's
for example) asif they had been
directed to look out for a swift
sailing hull, This was how the
‘Admiralty came upon the privateer
Tygre. Her survey detailed more
than the usual deticiences and
recommended not purchasing her
but it also stressed her ‘great
character for sailing’. The
‘Admiralty decided on 31 March
1747 not to add her to the Navy
but, on 29 April, ordered her lines
to be taken off ‘in the most exact
manner’ and to build to those lines
two 24s ‘without the least deviation’
from the draught. The sense of
urgency was highly unusual: one
was to be built at Plymouth, at
speed and ‘in preference to all other
new works’. Slade, the Master
Shipwright at Plymouth was
2
3
6
Phoenix typical English 20 gunship ofthe
1741 Estabishment With a pai of gunport,
‘ballast port amiahipy snd aro of
tarportson the lowe, or Gun Deck, the shi
SSinevery respect two decker and very igh
Ct ofthe water in consequence
Amazon cx Frenc Pantie couldnt a
eater contrast to Phoents, being very low
Isied. She has complete lower deck bat
there sno outward agnof tig even the
carports are on te upper deck), and indeed
Smkshis the lower deck wel low the
wraterine. Athoogh having advantages of
Stability this for of ll would ave been
wet and the orginal plan shows the
tckltonal topside bulwarsthe Royal Navy
intend toad Note thatthe ship was
steered with til, a feature only found on
Shall handy rat nthe Royal Navy
Enmbuscade, though much ager, has man
fentres in common wth Amazon French
frgntes werent onl low bl bua bad
Severe tmbichome (cae insars rom the
waterline) in section, and therefore carried
ther chamels (ih cutward projecting
distor to winch the lower taning ging
Masset up) below the pper deck porte Tae
ve them more leverage but exposed them
to damage from heavy sas.
Renommée was the finest ofthe French
‘captures. She, ike most French cruisers,
certied no broadside guns forward ofthe
Foremast, This was because the fineness ofthe
lines forward gave litle buoyancy, and also
because the long light hull could not stand
hheavy weights atthe ship’ extremities
Following the Admiraty’sdssatistaction with
the 24 gunships ofthe 1745 Establishment,
the two Surveyor ofthe Navy were
Instructed to produce improved designs. Si
Jacob Acworth s ves was Seahorse
many ways she was a halsway stage between
twordecker nd true fgets with on 8
ballast port on Gun Deck aight Yower in
the hull
‘Mermaid was the other design ~by Allin
‘with generally similar features, Neither was
tn enliely satisfactory hip.
7. Lyme and her sister Unicom, however, were
Highly succesful Based on te lines of the
prvalces For ihe todd the genine
frigate fom into the Royal Navy and were
the prototypes fora cast of 20 vessels bul
between 1735 and 1766, They retained
certain French features, including the
Tetanglarwinov-pots atone the wo
aftermostgunports, square hances (lhe
fatdoymelfonssscand quarteecs rls)
nia tiler onthe quarterdcck although thi
was worked bya wheel aft of the mizeen10
TABLE 2: COMPARATIVE
SCANTLINGS OF FRENCH AND
ENGLISH FRIGATES
Incase English surveying offers commens
‘on Frepe Seaniingbe cnslered mere
prejce an abjcctve comparison with
Fppishcimensonsean be ered. The Adm
1akitertosel Adil contracts contin
detailed specteations and of these the
earliest fnigate is Lowestoffe of 1760,
‘ih coger sands
‘ne fr the Niger clas (proved by
{imenson) witha few modiicatons fora
lagers
Te Fen ships ere chosen because thet
senntings are partly well dete, ard
siege Heron nd Coe esis
{hey prtalaryimpresed the suveyorsas
welt rion, Belone and Comet
‘Nore captured inthe Seven Years Wat
over n Part ofthis aie, ut are
Std for the ske of completeness
‘These refer to the parts numbered in Figures
1or2,
‘Name
‘Tons
Built
FIGURE
yb
ite
anid
ite
wut
wah
2124
212 oF
2/21
2m
ons
219
mn
22
2m
221
2/9
216
TIMBERS:
EMBUSCADE,
746
1745
inches
CASTOR,
605
1744
Space between floor
timbers
floor, sided
floor, moulded
st futtock, sided
Ist futtock, moulded
2nd futtock, sided
2nd futtock moulded
3rd futtock, sided
3rd futtock, moulded
4th futtock, sided
4th futtock, moulded
‘Top timber, sided
‘Top timber, moulded
LOWER DECK
Beams, sided
moulded
Distance apart
‘No. of beams
Hanging Knees, sided
Bolts per arm, and
diameter in inches
‘Which beams have knees
Dagger knees, sided
Bolts per arm
Which beams have knees
Lodging knees, sided
Bolts per arm,
and diameter
Which beams have knees
Clamps, thick
broad
Waterways, thick
seuueses segs
3
10
36-70
16
NONE
2
242
All except 2
457810
NONE
6
28
a
let into beams 2
broad
UPPER DECK
Beams, sided
moulded
distance apart
No. of beams
Hanging knees, sided
Bolts per arm,
‘and diameter
‘Which beams have knees
Lodging knees, sided
Bolts per arm,
and diameter
‘Which beams have knees
Tron hanging knees,
which beams
Waterways, thick
et into beams
Clamps, thick
broad
14
12
26-72
26
10
342
18 midships
10
342
1st 5, last 3
NONE
10)
34
5
28
pegeenss
12
12
44.64
4
9pine)
443 off
All
NONE
8h
8h
30-65
26
7U(pine)
443 of
All except 1
NONE,
NONE
RENOMMEE
669
1744
inches inches
47
8
9
8h
9
8
443 of
All
NONE
NONE
4
2
4
1
2ree
HERMIONE BELLONE COMET, LOWESTOFFE/NIGER
312 om 647 701/679
1748 1755 1751 1761/1758-63
inches inches inches inches
9 45 6 2u3
2 9 9 B
? n n 10
9 9 z 13
9 8 2 9%
9 9 8 1k
9 n n 8
2 8 1 u
8 a . n
2 8 8 108
6 st 5 8
2 8h 8 104
5 34 3h 4
The English vessels not only have considerably heavier frames but they are also closer together.
101 ot 8 9
9 9h 7 8
2 36-82 2 2730-54
2s 26 2 28
2 (iron) 6 4
2 343 243 64601
{st only every other Al all
NONE NONE NONE NONE
NONE NONE NONE 7
= = = S44 oft
a = = al
st 4 5
0 1st 28
7 ; 5 a
2 0
rn 10 8 9
101 9 8 9
i Bre) : pes The its to not that deck bear
; J poinsto not are hat dec beams on
A ea 29; Frenh vessels are sligtly heavier bu further
9 8 4 7 apa Te Egil eof cing wh
every Bean given coc hanging and ne
444 344 343 T4T of" ios ins toch end ey ane,
fe an a fe Cones very favour wih te ren
rclorene fot single kc, and sgh
8 NONE NONE 4 Histor camps and rebeted watery.
343 a = 546 of I
‘esame ena ld ne for he
ams _ - Toren aed guarterdeek anu the
at all [English vessels are, rlatvely somewhat
om NONE NONE NONE lighter - which is very wise, considering that
they ar lofier than their French
2 2 r ‘ ouierpts and unnecesay weight would
3 2 ; : afte.
5 st 2 4
R 294 2 212
Gun deck
‘Tere L18ft Lin
Unicom/Lyme 17h 10in
Keelfortonnage Breadth
95te7in 337 8in
96S} 33m 8in
Depth in hold Tonnage
Lift oin 7624/94"
oft 2in 581 50/94"
“Because ofthe formula used tonnage was always given in whole tons and fractions of 94. This was known as Builders Measurement.
instructed to ‘have a perfect draught
drawn thereof, and to take an exact
account of all the scantlings,
dimensions, form and manner of the
framing, scarphs, fastenings, and
every particular relating to her hull,
‘masts and yards’, all of which was
“to be forwarded with all possible
expedition’.
‘The ‘24s’ which became the
Unicorn and Lyme, were re-rated
28 gun ships and became the first
English true frigates. They were
highly successful but the problem is
whether they were actually built as
“Chinese copies’ like the Admiralty
instructions indicate. The Navy
Board realised that to maintain the
same performance the same
scantlings and weight distribution
would be necessary but, given the
strong antagonism to French
building practices in general and the
shortcomings of the prototype so
thoroughly exposed in the survey,
‘one cannot imagine the ships being
built to anything but acceptable
Royal Dockyard standards. No
draught of Zygre exists fora
conclusive check but, since the
dimensions as taken off the Tygre
differ considerably from the design
dimensions for Unicorn and Lyme,
it is safe to assume that the design
was subily altered during
draughting to allow for English
standards of scantling and
constructi
‘When more vessels of this class
were built after 1755, considerable
internal and topside alterations
further increased the tonnage. By
the time Unicorn and Lyme were
ready for sea, the war was over.
However, the Admiralty had in the
meantime ordered more 24s,
although they continued to
experiment. Despite the fact that
the first 1745 Establishment 24 did
not go to sea until March 1747, by
13 October 1747 the Admiralty
informed the Navy Board that
‘great complaint issmade of the bad
qualities of His Majesty's ships of
24 guns, especially with regard to
their sailing’ and ordered them to
produce two designs for 24s without
confining themselves to the
Establishment dimensions. The
Navy's designers (confusingly called
the ‘Surveyors of the Navy’) were
put on their mettle but sinice one of
them, the old and reactionary Sir
Jacob Acworth, had been a
successful opponent of the larger
dimensions proposed for the 1745
Ships the Admiralty must have felt
self-righteous when both designs
turned out to be larger than the
1745 vessels, Neither Acworth’s
Seahorse, nor Mermaid, designed by
the other Surveyor, Joshua Allin,
‘was much better than the
Establishment vessels.
With the war over the search for
a first class cruiser design ceased but
after 1749 only one other 24 gun
ship was built. The superiority of
the larger, faster and more
seaworthy 28s was proved in sailing
trials, and subsequently they took
over as the Royal Navy's standard
sixth rate. No other French wars
such as the superb Renommee were
considered but this is hardly
surprising since a replacement was
requited for a 500 ton ship, not a
700-tonner. There can be no
denying the debt of the Unicorn and
the Lyme to the French privateer
but Tygre was not only the right
ship but also happened to find
herself in the right circumstances.
Because of the administrative
situation the Admiralty was not able
to get the improvement in ship
design it knew was necessary and
used the Tygre as an escape fiom
the impasse it had reached with the
Surveyors and the old two decked
24s.
CONCLUSIONS:
Although expressed as criticisms,
the consistency of the surveyors’
remarks on French construction
clearly demonstrates that English
and French shipbuilders were
following widely divergent
philosophies. There is some
indication that the French use of
light scantling and fastening was
related to the high speeds achieved
by their cruisers. This posed a
problem for the English Navy
Board when ordered to build exact
copies of captured French vessels
because they strongly disapproved
of the French style of construction
but realised that it was not possible
simply to build a French hull shape
on English principles and expect the
same performance. However, the
problem only arose once during the
iod under review, when the new
frigate-form was brought into the
Royal Navy as part of a wider
programme of experimentation
pursued by the Admiralty: even
though it was ordered, it is doubtful
whether Unicom and Lyme were
exact copies of Tygre. Perfect
imitation was certainly rare in the
period of the Seven Years War, to
be covered in the following part of
this study. It will also be possible to
investigate consistent principles
French and English cruiser de:
as this part has established
principles of construction.
This article is based on a more
detailed series by the author
published in French in ‘Le Petit
Perroquet (Part 1, No 21, Spring
1977).13
THE
KING GEORGE V
CLASS PART!
BY ROBERT DUMAS
By 1930 the British battlefleet for reconstruction, would be sold contemporaries the King George V
consisted mainly of old vessels forscrapping class had guns of smaller calibre
constructed during or before the ‘The new ships were required to and, in most cases, a lower speed
First World War, the only be designed within the current but their well conceived protection
exceptions being the two battleships. international Treaty limitations of helped to counterbalance any
of the Nelson class. The Admiralty, 35 000 tons standard displacement possible handicap. The Royal Navy
therefore, began an extensive and 14in (506mm) maximum gun had not conceived sophisticated
programme of reconstruction and calibre. Originally the design was vessels but well built ships with.
started work on the design of the settledonamain armament of —_good staying power.
battleships that were to become the twelve gunsin three quadruple
King George V class. It was turrets (two forward, one aft) but, in
intended that these ships should be _ order to provide more weight for
the first vessels of a battleship protection, the turret in B position
replacement programme and that was altered to a twin mounting. The 4. june trials inthe Pentland Fith, 21
on their completion the five Royal designed speed was 27.5 knots at in’ tga) ca
Sovereign class ships, which were full load displacement. NM
the least suitable of the older vessels Compared with foreign14
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KING GEORGE V
‘TECHNICAL,
CHARACTERISTICS WHEN
COMPLETED
Dimensions: Length: 745ft
(227.07m) overall, 700ft (213.36m)
between perpendiculars; Beam:
‘103ft (31.39m) max; Draught: 29ft
(8 84m) at standard depacement,
2ft 6in (9.9m) at full load.
‘Armament: Ten 14in (356mm) 2 x
4 plus 1 x 2; Sixteen 5.25in
(132mm) 8x2; Four 8 barrelled
2p pom-pom AA mountings in
ing George V and Prince of Wales;
Six 8 barrelled 2pdr pom-pom AA
‘mountings in remainder, (the two
additional 8 barrelled pom-poms
were disposed on B and X turrets);
Four UP (Unrotated Projectile
rocket launchers) AA mountings in
King George V, three UP
mountings in Prince of Wales, (in
King George V one UP was fitted
on B turret, two on X and one on
the quarterdeck, in Prince of Wales
‘one UP was fitted on B and two on
1X); One Bofors AA on the
quarterdeck on Prince of Wales
only; six single 201m Oerikon in
Duke of York; eighteen single
20mm Oerlikon in Anson and
Howe.
AireraftHguipment: Onc catapult
amidship (Type DIIIH); three
‘Walrus amphibians
Machinery: 8 Admiralty 3 drum
boilers (4001 /sq in working
pressure), 4 sets Parsons single
reduction geared turbines, 110 000
SHP (normal), 125 000 SHP
(maximum), 4shafts and one
rudder.
Note: King George V was engined
by Vickers Armstrong (Barrow-in-
‘urness) Anson by Wallsend
Slipway and the other three by their
builders.
Protection: Main belt: 15in
(380mm) Slin (140mm) lower edge-
abreast magazines, 14in (356mm
4lin (115mm) lower edge ~ abreast
‘machinery; Internal bulge, with
outer air space and inner oil /water,
tank, torpedo bulkhead 1in
(45mm); Main deck: Sin (127mm)
‘over machinery, 6in (152mm) over
magazines; Upper deck: lin
25mm); Main turrets: 13in
(330mm) face, Yin (228mm) sides,
Tin (177mm) fear, 6in (152mm)
crowns; Conning tower: 44-2in (114-
50mm).
Radar: King George V and Prince
of Wales: Type 279 air warning,
with aerials on mastheads, and Type
‘The King George V in May 1942 on het
return from covering the Russian Convoys
POLS and OPI. The extensive damage to
‘the bow, which forced her early retirement
from th operation, was ecived when she
aceidentaly rammed and sank the
destroyer Punjabi.
awe
eeKING GEORGE VKING GEORGE V
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284 for main armament, with
aerials on forward main director.
Prince of Wales was also fitted with
four Type 285 and four Type 282
gunnery sets, with aerials on the
HACS Mk IV directors and the
pom-pom directors (on the lower
e) respectively, shortly after
letion. Duke of York: Type
281 air warning, Type 284 for main
armament, four Type 285 with
ae on HACS Mk V director and
six Type 282 for pom-poms (later
fedlsed to five). Anson and Howe:
As Duke of York except also
carried Type 273 surface warning
radaron foremast statish,
Rangefinders: Two 41ft (12.50m) in
‘Aand X turrets; One 30it (9.10m)
in B turret; Six 15ft (4.57m) in main
and secondary directors.
Speed: Normal sea speed, 27.5
knots; Maximum sea speed, 29.5
knots.
Endurance: 14.000 miles at 10
nots, 7000 miles at 14 knots, 4300
miles at 20 knots, 2400 miles at 27
knots, 1
Bunker capacity: Oil fuel, 3700
tons, Petrol for seaplanes, 35 tons.
Ships boats: King George V, Prince
of Wales and Duke of York; Three
45ft (13.7m) fast motor boats, one
45ft (13.7m) motor launch, three
25ft (7.6m) fast motor boats, two
27fi (8.2m) whalers, one 16ft
(4.8m) fast motor dinghy, one
‘Duke of York two) 14ft (4.2m)
sailing dinghy, two 32ft (9.76m)
cutters (abreast B turret); Anson
and Howe: Two 45ft (13.7m) motor
boats, one 45ft (13.7m) motor
launch, one 36ft (10.9m) motor
pinnace, four 32ft (9.75m) cutters,
‘two 25ft (7.6m) fast motor boats,
one 16it (4.8m) fast motor dinghy,
‘two 14ft (4.2m) sailing dinghies,
one (Howe two) 27K (8.2m)
whaler; Note: the majority of the
boats were stowed on the after
superstructure between the after
funnel and mainmast. There were
some differences in the positioning
of boats between the ships of the
class and some of the smaller types
G2ft and under) were stowed in
various positions —abreast X turret,
on the catapult deck, before the fore
funnel, ete.
‘The King George Vina heavy cross sen off
thenorth western tip of Seotland on 18
February 1985,
Nat
2 King George V in the Firth of Clyde on 10
‘Complement: In peacetime, 1511;
Asfleet flagship, 1644; The
complement of Prince of Wales
when she was sunk was 1612.
July 1942. Note the Type 273 radar lantern
and office on the foremast and the Type
ialon the forward main director.
®18
PRINCE OF WALESPRINCE OF WALES
1. Prince of Wales arrives at Singapore Naval
Base on 2 December 1941, six days before
se was sunk
TWM by courtesy of Roger Chesneat
2 One of the twin 5.25in HA/LA Mit
tountings of the Prince of Wales in May
141, The port side ofthe bridge structure
is visible in the backgrounds; note the aerial
for the Type 284 gunnery radar on the root
oof the main director and the HACS MKLV.
director (behind the muzzle of the left
$22sin gun) whieh had not at this time
received the radar aerials of Type 285.
MoD, by courtesy of Peter HodgesDUKE OF YORK
| DUKE OF YORK © sALTERATIONS AND
ADDITIONS BETWEEN
COMPLETION AND MAJOR
REFITS OF 1944 /45
King George V. Early 1940:
pom-pom director platform
between forward HACS directors
replaced by Type 271 surface
warning radar. December 1940: UP
mountings removed, Type 271
radar replaced by Type 273
(Lantern on foremast starfish), five
‘Type 282 radars fitted, 18 single
20mm Oerlikons fitted (5 on
forecastle, 5 on quarterdeck, 2 on
each side of No 1 platform, 4 on
boat deck). Early 1942: Four Type
285 radars added. May 1943: Two
32ft cutters abreast forecastle
removed, 20 single 20mm
Oerlikons added (2 on each side
mainmast, 4 on each side catapult
deck, 4 abreast B turret and 4/0n
quarterdeck), upper bridge
extended aft and Admiral’s bridge
forward.
Prince of Wales: July 1941: UP
TABLE 1. CONSTRUCTION
mountings removed and two 8
barrel pom-pom mountings fitted
(one on B and one on X turrets),
‘Type 271 surface warning radar
added between forward HACS
directors as in King George V.
December 1941: 7 single 20mm
Oerlikons added (3 on quarterdeck,
4.0n No 1 platform).
Duke of York: November 1941:
radar Type 273 fitted on foremast
starfish: January 1942: One 20mm
erlikon fitted between hawsepipes
at extreme forward end of forecastle
(the position proved impractical due
to the mounting’s susceptibility to
the weather and was removed after
two or three months). April 1942: 8
single 20mm added (5 on forecastle,
3 on quarterdeck) sheet anchor on
starboard side removed. March
1943: 24 single 20mm Oerlikons
added (2 on after boiler room vents,
4 abreast B turret, 6 on No 1
platform, 4 on each side catapult
deck, 2 on each side of deck
forward of X turret) bridge
Names Builders Laid Down
KING GEORGE ‘Vickers Armstrong (Walker) 01-01-37
PRINCE OF WALES. Came! Lard (Birkenhead) 01-01-37
DUKE OF YORK (ex ANSON) John Brown (Clydebank) 05-05-37,
ANSON (ex JELLICOR) Swan Hunter and Wigham 20-07-37
Richardson (Wallsend on Tyne)
HOWE (ex BEATTY) Fairfield (Govan) 01-06-37
2
modified as in King George V and
cutters abreast B turret removed.
June 1944: Two twin 20mm.
Oerlikons added on No. 1 platform
and 8 single 20mm removed from
No | platform.
Anson: June 1943: 17 single 20mm
Oerlikons (4 on each side of
catapult deck, 8 on forecastle
around B turret). Cutters abreast B
turret removed.
Howe; June 1943: 22 single 20mm
erlikons added (plus 2 transferred
from abreast X turre'
each side catapult deck, 2 in wings
of Admiral’s bridge, 2 in place of
44in searchlights on after funnel, 2
on No | platform, 10 on forecastle
deck around B turret).
Launched Completed Pennant No
21-02-39 01-10-4041
03-05-39 31-0340 53
28-02-40 OF1I4L 17
2402-40 22-0642 79
09.0440 200842 32
TABLE 2. DISPLACEMENT
Design standard displacement: 35 000 tons
Estimated displacements in 1941 (tons)
Names
Standard Displacement
Full Load Displacement
KING GEORGE V, 36 730 41815
PRINCE OF WALES 36 750 41 850
DUKE OF YORK 36 820 41930
ANSON 36.970 42.080
HOWE. 36.950 42.050
TABLE 3. BREAKDOWN OF WEIGHTS OF KING GEORGE V (ons)
‘AS DESIGNED ‘AS COMPLETED
Standard Full load Standard Full load
Hull and ft 13500 13500, 13830 13.830
Machinery 2700 2700 2770 2770
Protection 12500 12500 12410 12410
‘Armament 6030 6765 6570 7400
Equipment 1150 1.465 1150 1620
TOTAL 35900 36930 36730 38030
Oil fuet 3700 3730
Lubricating oil & petrol 60 60
Reserve feed water 300 255
TOTAL 40990 42.075DUKE OF YORK s march 1
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ANSON 1: sive1 Prince of Wales in the Pentland Firth on 6
‘October 1951. She now has multiple
om poms on B and X turrets, n plac of
the UP mountings originally carried, and is
equipped with a full radar outfit (Types
249,371, 3s, 285 and 282)
Natt
2 The Anson surning to starbourd on $
August 1942. ae
Nase1 Howe leaving Fairields yard on completion
jin 1942,
‘Authors collection
2 Howe tums to port at speed, March 1943.
CPL Wisj00!1 Prince of Wale avg at Argenta Boy, 3 Duke of York in dock at Root
Newioundland, in August 1941 ther December 1942-March 1943 re
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2. Duke of York leaving drydock at Rosyth,
March 1943,
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By the early 1960s the surface
forces of the Netherlands Navy
were based on an ageing carrier, the
Karel Doorman (ex-HMS
Venerable), the cruisers de Ruyter
and de Zeven Provincien and twelve
large anti-submarine destroyers of
the Holland and Friesland classes.
‘One of the cruisers, the de Zeven
Provincien, was converted between
1962 and 1964 to carry the ‘Terrier
surface-to-air missile. Consideration
of cost, however, as well as doubts
about the future of these large ships
with their complement of about 900
‘men in a small navy with limited
“The large dome above the Tromp's bridge
provides weather protection for the acral
Efthe Dutch HSA three mensional sr
Search an tricking ada. The smaller
{Tome forward of the bridge protects the
Serial ofthe WM23 fire control radar (aso
‘f Duteh manutactre) which controls the
Sex Sparrow system snd the twin 200m
fn mounting
ERS Taylor
resources of manpower, meant that
this conversion was not extended to
de Ruyter. So, in 1964 the decision
was taken to build a limited number
of large guided-missile frigates to
replace the cruisers as flagships.
ATTEMPTS AT
STANDARDISATION
In view of the inereasin,
commitment of the Netherlands
Navy to NATO following the
break-up of her empire in
South-East Asia, efforts were made
right from the start to collaborate as
closely as possible with other allied
countries in the development and
adoption of suitable weapons,
sensors and a propulsion system. A.
major agreement involving the first
‘wo items was made with the Royal
Navy, with which the Netherlands
Navy/had established particularly
close connections since the War.
The Dutch would adopt the British
Sea Dart missile then under
development as the future
area-defence weapon of the Fleet.
Inreturn the Dutch, with their
highly specialised electronics
industry, would be responsible for
the development of a large
three-dimensional radar to provide
action-data and automatic tracking
for the missile, Besides being
installed on the new frigates the
radar would be adopted by the new
generation of aircraft carriers and
‘escorts that the Royal Navy was
planning to build ai that time (a
comparison between HMS Bristol
as originally designed and Tromp as
completed shows a remarkable
similarity.) In the event, however,
the Dutch became concerned about
the amount of ‘ship-space’ that a
high-performance system like Sea
Dart would take up. As their frigate
was a smaller design than the Type
82, they opted for the
medium-performance (and
cheaper) Tartar missile which the2
Furthermore, the Naval Staff
emphasised once again that
standardisation was of paramount
importance by demanding that all
equipment be chosen from that in
use or under development —in the
Netherlands or other allied NATO
navies. Curiously enough this latter
BY JOHN JORDAN demand, combined with the
all-important aim of economising on
manpower, led the Netherlands
Americans had developed ‘There can be little doubt that the Navy back into collaboration with |
Specifically for destroyers and which decision to drop Sea Dart from the the Royal Navy in the one area |
‘was being adopted by several other design, blow that it was to a where this had not been considered
European navies. Conversely this commion weapon system between
meant that the 3-D radar was now the Royal Navy and the Dutch,
rejected by the Royal Navy, leaving resulted in other capabilities being GAS TURBINES
the Dutch with considerable enhanced as far as the frigates were The original Dutch frigate design
development costs for an end concerned. This certainly fell into. was to be driven by conventional
product of just two installations. line with Staff Requirements. steam turbines with fixed-pitch
Whether the deal would have gone (agreed in 1968) which included __ propellers. ‘The Royal Navy,
through, in view of the subsequent protection of a task force or convoy however, was now developing a
ally ~ that of propulsion
cancellation of the new generation against aircraft, submarines and" _new generation of aero-derived
of carriers and all but one of the surface ships as well as shore as-turbines to be installed in their
Type 82s isin any case open to bombardment (je a bit of everything future frigate and destroyer designs.
question. rather than a specialised role). The major attraction of gas turbines30
for the Dutch was the reduction in
the engine room personne! needed
to operate and maintain them but a
further factor was undoubtedly the
lower noise-signature of gas
turbines compared with steam
turbines and diesels, making them
better suited to anti-submarine
operations. The Tromp class finally
emerged from the drawing board
with basically the same COGOG
(Combined Gas or Gas) propulsion
system as the British Type 42 class
destroyers: one Olympus boost
turbine and one Tyne cruise turbine
on each shaft driving,
controllable-pitch propellers.
Y-ARD(Glasgow) acted as
consultants for the main machinery
installation and controls and the
Dutch entered into a joint
agreement with the Royal Navy to
monitor the performance of the
turbines.
1
‘The forward engine room houses
the Olympus turbines, each rated at
22 000 shp, which give the ships
their top speed of over 28 knots.
‘The turbines were down-rated from
the 27 000 shp version fitted in the
Type 42s in order to extend the life
of the gas-generators, thereby
lowering maintenance costs.
Outside the two Olympus modules
are two L000kW diesel generators
which provide half the electrical
power. Diesel rather than gas
generators were selected partly
ecause of the problems of
providing additional air intakes and
uptakes to those required by the
propulsion machinery but also
because of the high
fuel-consumption of gas-turbines at
low ratings.
The after engine room contains
the Tynes which, at a rating of
4000shp each, propel the ships at
their cruising speed of about 18
knots. The main reduetion gearing
is also housed in this engine room,
with one Tyne aft and one Olympus
forward of each gear box. The
Dutch designed their own gearing in
preference fo the adoption of
British equipment and the
gearboxes for the Tromp class were
supplied by the shipbuilder, Royal
Schelde. An auxiliary machinery
room aft of this engine room houses
the other pair of diesel generators.
The arrangement of propulsion
and auxiliary machinery was
designed to minimize action
damage. Either set of turbines can
continue to operate with the other
engine room flooded and the
gearboxes are designed as
watertight units. Furthermore, the
separation of the two pairs of
generators by two watertight
bulkheads lessens the likelihood of
Tromp shortly after her launch in 1973 and
in the early stages of ‘fitting out’ at the De
Schelde shipyard in Flushing.
Rolls-Royce, courtesy A Preston
Anaerial view of Tromp taken at Spithead
Shortly after the ship's completion
Photographs 3 and 4 were also taken at this
time, The vessel alongside is the British
fleet tender Lawlask.
C&S Taylorpower failure.
Alll machinery is designed for the
quietest possible operation:the
diesel generators are fully enclosed
in noise-absorbing hoods, the cruise
freeboard with a wide beam.
‘Top-weight has been kept to a
minimum by extensive use of
aluminium in the superstructure,
steel having been used only beneath
turbines are resiliently mounted, the the large 3-D radar. Full advantage
gearboxes are exeptionally quiet,
has been taken of the great depth
and there are silencers housed in the and beam of the ship to improve
intakes and uptakes.
‘A push-button Machinery
Control Room provides remote
control and surveillance of the
complete machinery installation.
For ease of communication itis
located near the Operations Room,
with command links to the latter
and the bridge.
HULL AND SUPERSTRUCTURE,
Seaworthiness was naturally a
major consideration in a ship whose
main area of operations would be
the North Sea and Atlantic. It has
been achieved by combining high
habitability and to provide
‘maximum space for weapons and
electronics.
ARMAMENT AND SENSORS
‘The armament finally fitted is both
comprehensive and well-balanced,
with two weapon systems provided
for each of the three functions —
surface-to-air, surface-to-surface
and ASW — demanded by Staff
Requirements.
‘The main surface-to-air element
is the American Standard SM1
missile (of which 40 are carried).
‘The single-arm Tartar Mk 13
launcher is mounted on a
deckhouse which extends forward.
of the helicopter hangar, giving
good all-round coverage, and the
two SPG 51D tracker /iliuminators
overlook it from positions just aft of
the mainmast. It is a system which
has been adopted by a number of
NATO navies and has been
described in detail in a previous
issue (Warship No 6 —
California). The Dutch installation
differs from all others, however, in
that target-tracking information for
the SPG 15sis initially provided not
by aradar of American
manufacture, such as the SPS 52,
and 48A planar radars, but by the
massive HSA three-dimensional
radar specifically designed for these
ships. This is an advanced air-search
and tracking radar capable of
handling simultaneously over one
hundred aircraft tracks. The32
This view of Tromp, slighty off the
starboard beam aows ery cary the
layout of her arisament a sadar aera
‘The contains forthe Harpoon mises
hadnt ben ie tee ti
otograph was taken but the supportin
Framework forthe starboard pai ean be
seen jst forwatd ofthe funnel
Taylor
air-search functions are performed
by a pair of parabolic reflectors
mounted back-to-back, and the
tracking funetions by a'similarly
mounted pair of planar,
phased-array antennae with
integrated IFF. These antennae are
mounted on a single platform with
‘common turning gear and are
housed within a large fibre-glass
dome. The back-to-back
arrangement gives a very high
data-rate, and high and low cover is
provided'by the system.
Back-up for Standard is provided
by the NATO Sea Sparrow
jort-range surface-to-air missile.
Developed from the American
Basic Point Defense Missile System
(BPDMS), it uses a special version
Of the Sparrow missile which has
folding wings and can therefore be
launched from a new lightweight
cell launcher (its predecessor used
amodified ASROC launcher).
With an effective range of about
12km the missile can engage targets
down to about 150m.
‘The Sea Sparrow missile has been
coupled with various guidance
systems. In the Tromp class itis the
WM25, which also serves the
120mm mounting. The WM25 is
the latest in the popular M20 series
of radars which now equip many of
the world’s small ships and which,
like the 3-D radar, are
‘manufactured by Hollandse Signaal
Apparaten. It comprises a
tracker filluminator radar above a
parabolic search reflector on a
common mount, housed in a
near-spherical radome. The tracker
radar directs the Sea Sparrow
missiles. The search radar provides
air and surface search as well as
automatic tracking for one or two
surface targets. The whole system
has been designed for quick
reaction against medium- and
close-range targets, and
computer-direction ensures an
all-weather capability.
In view of the modemity of the
rest of Tromp’s equipment itis
pethaps surprising that the Dutch
should have retained the ageing
Bofors twin 120mm /50cal
‘dual-purpose gun rather than opting
for the Vickers Mk 8 or the Italian
OTO 127mm. It does, however,
‘compare well enough with more
modern guns in terms of
performance 85° elevation and a
rate of fite of 40 rounds per minute
~and the choice was no doubt
influenced by the availability of two
mountings from the old destroyer
Gelderland. The turrets are fully
automatic and radar-controlled and
have been specially modified for use
aboard the new frigates.
Tetook the Dutch some time to
choose’a surface-to-surface missile
to complement the twin Bofors. The
main candidates were undoubtedly
the French Exocet and the
American Harpoon. Eventually a
decision was made in favour of the
more advanced (and more costly)
Harpoon, for which ramps can be
seen just forward of the twin
uptakes. The missile uses inertial
guidance until booster separation,
after which a computer in the
missile brings it on a course
determined by target data inserted
before launch, making the missile
independent of the ship’s sensors. It
then cruises at low altitude under
altimeter control. The active radar
homing system switches on
automatically at a predetermined
distance from the position ofthe
target at launch, The homing radar,
which is frequency-agile to prevent
jamming, then seeks out and locks
onto the target. In the final phase
the missile executes a climb /dive
manoeuvre. Ata length of 4.75m
(shorter than the horizon-range
Exocet) Harpoon is particularly
compact for a missile with a range
of over 55km. On Tromp and her
sister four of the weather-proof
canisters will be bolted to each of
the two ramps for a total of eight
missiles.
‘The principal ASW weapon
carried is the Anglo-French Lynx
helicopter which is only just coming
into service. The Lynx is at present
without a rival in the small ASW
helicopter bracket and has also been‘ordered by the Dutch for the new
Kortenaer class frigates. Over twice
the weight of the earlier Wasp it was
designed to replace, itis still ess
than half the weight of the big-ship
Sea King. In its ASW role the Lynx
carries two American Mk 46
torpedoes. The latter weapon is also
Taunched from the two triple Mk 32
ASW tubes mounted at upper deck
level just aft of the mainmast. ASW
data is provided by two
hull-mounted sonars. The first is the
Tong-range EDO(USA)CWE 610,
a low-frequency sonar in production
since 1969 which is also in servic
with the Italian Navy. The second is
the even more recent Type 162M
developed for the Royal Navy. This,
has a sideways-looking scan pattern
and is designed to classify mid-water
and seabed targets out to about
100m.
For navigational purposes and for
helicopter contol the Fromp class
carry the Decca dual Transar radar
for which twin port and starboard
antennae. above the bridge, provide
360° coverage. The system appears
to have been chosen because of
clutter problems posed by the siting
of the 3-D radome. ECM sensors
are carried on the mainmast, and
are backed up by two British-design
Corvus chaff dispensers abreast the
hangar.
All weapons and sensors are
linked by a command system
designated SEWACO-2 (from the
Dutch SEnsoren, WApens and
COmmandosysteem). The
electronics for this are mainly of
Dutch manufacture supplemented
by components from other NATO
countries. The computer-based
command system processes
information from all sensors,
evaluates threats and designates
targets to the weapon systems, The
‘operations room, in which the
display sub-system is housed, is
located low in the ship, with the
Displacement: 4308 tonnes
Length: 138.2 metres
Beam: 148 metres
Draught 4.58 metres
Complement: 35 officers,271 men
computer and sonar rooms.
CONCLUSION
Part of the undoubted success of the
Tromp class can be attributed to the
way in which the Dutch have
selected from the best equipment
available in NATO to suit their
requirements and those who have
called for more standardisation
in the alliance now have an
example to hold up to the sceptics.
But the real triumph belongs to the
Dutch electronics industry which, in
linking up weapons and sonars from
a variety of sources and matching
them with high-performance
above-water sensors of its own
manufacture, has without question
placed the Netherlands in the ‘first
division’ of naval technology.HMS COCHRANE
BY JOHN ROBERTS
‘The Cochrane and her three sister
ships of the 1903-04 Programme,
Achilles, Natal and Warrior, were
among the last armoured cruisers to
be constructed for the Royal Navy
and enjoyed a high reputation as
one of the best cruiser classes in the
Fleet. This reputation stemmed
from the adoption of an all turret
armament which, unlike the
broadside guns of earlier ships could
be worked in any sort of weather. In
addition the turrets substantially
increased topweight which, by
reducing the level of stability, made
them very good seaboats and steady
‘gun platforms. In contrast the
previous Duke of Edinburgh class,
which were virtually identical, apart
from having a secondary armament
of 6in guns mounted in a broadside
central battery, had a very poor
reputation; even the Minotaur class,
the next and last of the armoured
cruisers, were not regarded as
highly as the Warriors.
Unfortunately the appearance of
the battlecruiser type with the
Invincible class of 1906 rendered all
the later armoured cruisers obsolete
before they even entered service.
‘The Cochrane was laid down at
Fairfields Yard in Glasgow on 24
March 1904 and launched on 20
May 1905. She was commissioned
with a nucieus crew on 18 February
1907, joined the Nore Division of
the Home Fleet on 6 March and
shortly afterwards was brought to
full commission for service in the
Sth Cruiser Squadron, On 1 April,
1909 she recommissioned for
service with the 2nd Cruiser
Squadron with which she remained
until September 1917.
She spent the majority of the war
with the Grand Fleet and in May
1916 took part in the Battle of
Jutland. In November 1917 she
transferred to the North America
and West Indies station but rejoined
the 2nd Cruiser squadron early in
the following year and was based at
‘Murmansk during May —
September 1918. On 14 November
1918 she was stranded in the
Mersey Estuary, while under the
control of the pilot, and later broke
in two becoming a total loss. The
wreck had been broken up in site by
June 1919. Of Cochrane's sister
ships, the Natal blew up and sank in
the Cromarty Firth on 30
December 1915 and the Warrior
‘was sunk by gunfire during the
Battle of Jutland on 31 May 1916;
the sole survivor, Achilles, was sold
to T Ward for breaking up in May
1921.
PARTICULARS AS COMPLETED
Dis 13550 tons (load) 14 $00 tons
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as, a
73ft 6in x 27ft 6in (max at load displacement)
Machinery: 2 shal yinder ile
xpanson engines, 25680 IHP = 23.3 knots
(GEIS) 19 Varo ange tube bor, 6
Sind oles 2080 tons col 0 tons
‘Armour: min bel Gin smishis, in
forward, 3inaltuppe belt Gin aisbips
closed by 6n end bulkheads forming
protce citadel fo bases of beam res
fares Thin faces, insides, Ain backs, Sin
bases reducing o in on inboard side of Beam
turrets, Sn ammenition tubes to And
turrets only; conning tower TOin wall 3a
‘communication tbe
Protective Piating: bulkheads around engine
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Steting gear)rin deck Lin forward andat
‘telah upper deckin over cael
‘Stam’ -92in BL, oS cal Me Xon
Single Mk V mountings 7-Sn BL, 50 cal,
MBIT or gunn de ik I moins
3o- Spr Vickers OF guns on single Mi
‘ountingy 2-singe Spr Hotes, 3
Submerged Sin torpedo tubes one stem, wo
Scarce 336i o ige wings; 7
3a, | Below foretop, 2 abalt2nd an 2 batt
Sthfannel 2 sbreat mainmas
Boat stosied forward of mamas, 2. 4S
Steam pinnaces, 421 sling lunch, 36
pace, 2= 30k gis (towed on quartrdeck
Etuits when in arbour) 274 whale, tte
ing, 13 ba rat stowed on davis
Ships d= 32 outers
“Anchors bower 2-1 ewt Wasteney-Sith;
Sheet 113 ew Wastney- Smiths Keg one 17
cotand one 13 et Admiralty Pater
(Growed agin starboard side of after
SSperstitur);stream 81 ew Ing
(slowed agnnst port sie of after
Sper)
‘
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ALTERATIONS AND ADDITIONS
1908 Topallant mass, for wiles yards,
aided
1909 Funnel bands painted up. One white on
2nd and Sd funnel
1010 Search platforms abreast mainmas
towed St further and to 3 pe
Hots gunsogaly this poston
1912 Pannelsinteaedi eight by
Approximately 6 Topealant mess
Honened
191213 Torpedo net defence and booms
removed, Corel plaform aided on er
Seaton of mainmas, Searelighton pafonn
Below fore top was removed st about this
tine but information on his pots
uncertain
1015 6 par AA gun ited on quarterdeck
1918.16 Two searchlight platforms added on
tot fore and maint Compas patorm
extended at Topgalnt mast nd main
{opmas removed and fore topmast
‘Noreened Ga added to matnmast
Scarchligh plato abreast mainmast
Femoved (these appear the Been replaced
by 2 Spar Vickers AA guns on Mic
‘mountings but information on this point is
Uncertain). 3 pdr guns on Aand ¥ tare
Tooisremoved, Deckhoe aed belo”
‘Sch pio tcc 2nd and
1916 6 pdr HA gun replaced by 3in, 2001,
HA gion Mic ft mount
1917 Foremast converted otipod to
provide suppor for director Former
“Carclght platform enlarged to form director
Dlatfor but ecto not actualy ited unl
‘Rugost 1918, Two lower scart
Dlaforms on foremast removed. Atermost
i of Spar guns on aftr superstar and
Spurgurson i and St 9.2hch tuets
ieimoved This ft er wih a Spr armament
6120 gas ence of x3 pur AA)-Some
ofthese guns were lane at Mem
ToLSandat the time of her os sh car
toualof 7 butitisnot dear it this neluded
‘AN gun)‘This andthe following photograph was
taken in Plymouth Sound on 29 October
1917 shortly after the Cochrane completed a
refit in Devonport dockyard. During this refit
fer foremast wag conrad toa ped
support the weight ofa director. The empty
platform below the foretop bears witness to
{he fact that the director was not fitted until
“August 1918.
(MoD)
‘Cochrane from the port quarter, the 3in HA
fgun on the quarterdeck is hidden by acanvas |
over and most of her 3 pdr guns are barely |
Visible among the complexity ofher
Superstracture, The lower control position on
the mainmast was added before the war but
the two searchlight platforms above it were
fitted in 1915 of 1916, similar pair of
searchlight platforms on her foremast were
removed during her 1917 refit.
(MoD) £‘This drawing which shows Cochrane as she
wasin 1910, based on the offical plans of
the ship held bythe National Martine
Maseuun By this date very fw modifications
had been made tothe sip since completion
find te only visbleaerations were the
Addition of opgllant masts and the moving
‘ofthe search plattorms abreast the
maint St further at, where they replaced
top Hoi guns Teale gas
‘were ifferent ype to the main Spee
Daitery and tscems likely they wer intended
forsalting a umeton presumably trantered
tena tery worth ing ttt
{nttompedo boat battery of Vekers 3 pale OF
{uns tas 26 weapons (10 on amet roots
find Son forward and after superstoctre)
whl snot feerene Bok Gshing
the Ny asi thm wth ny 24
raseye justo be diferent says29). The
foureutes mounted on das amihips
wwerestoved on te upper deck abreast the
Fonels in wartime an the 30K gg, stowed
love the afer wing 9.2in caret, were
arsed on the quarterdeck dvi when in
harbour (boatsshown inthis postion by
broken Ine).© va necen mtPROJECT
GUPPY
BY NORMAN FRIEDMAN
‘The US submarine force ended
World War Two in a somewhat
paradoxical state. It had just won
pethaps the greatest subimarine
victory in history, against the
Japanese Empire, but with that war
over it had lost much of its mission
as the next prospective enemy, the
Soviet Union, had no large
‘merchant maine susceptible to
submarine attack. At the same time
the large force of new ‘fleet
submarines’ of the Gato, Balao, and
Tench classes (of which 158 were in
commission on 31 December 1945)
had suddenly become obsolescent
with the advent of the German
Type XI, examples of which the
had captured in 1945, Tests with
such vessels demonstrated new
standards not merely of underwater
speed but also of quieting and
ruggedness to resist depth-charging.
These experiments were extremely
discouraging for the US ASW force;
in 1945 experienced Pacific
submarine commanders had proven
very difficult targets for equally
experienced Atlantic escort goups
in exercises and it was clear that the
‘Type XXI was far more difficult to
track than the fleet boat.
Meanwhile, within the submarine
force, the first evaluations of the
ype XX1 led to the abandonment
of existing plans for a new variant of
the ‘fleet boat’ and to the beginning
of the design effort which would
lead to the first postwar US
submarine, the Tang. However, it
was clear that large numbers of such
submarines would not be
forthcoming in view of the absence
of a mission for US general purpose
submarines. Thus the submariners’
interest in a range of special
purpose types ~ missile firing
submarines, troop and cargo
carrying types for small scale
commando raids and specialized
ASW submarines, which might help
to counter the threat of the large
Soviet submarine force. Indeed, in a
sense the ‘Guppy’ was also a
specialist type as it was intended
initially to provide the ASW forces
with a modern ‘tame’ target against
which to practice. The US had been
allocated two ex-German Type
XXIs, U-2513 and U-3008, but
neither could be kept operational
for very long.
PROJECT GUPPY
Hence Project GUPPY —for
Greater Underwater Propulsive
Power which involved the
conversion of existing fleet boats to
high speed, Early in 1946 the
Bureau of Ships proposed to modify
fleet boats for high submerged
speed by increasing storage battery
power and by radical streamlining
of both hull and superstructure.
Sacrifices would include all of the
gun armament and, it was believed,
some considerable measure of
surfaced sea keeping capability. On
the other hand, simply because the
original fleet boat had been
designed largely for high speed
surface operation, the conversion
would lose little ofits surfaced
speed. Nor was there any way to
provide it with the kind of deep
diving capability characteristic of
the ‘true submersible’ Type XXT
Oda ($8-484) was one of two prototype
GUE eatontos Se maa
beta the atnenee of snorkel note the
bulge to house the SV air search radar when
fettacted, She is shown here as bul (12
March 1950); later a snorkel was fitted and
she was altered to GUPPY Il configuration
usw39and the late model fleet boats
converted to ‘Guppies’ were limited
toa test depth of 412ft.
Converted submarines would
have four 126 cell Guppy batteries
in place of the previous two 126 cell
Sargo batteries (named after the
submarine in which they had been
introduced in 1936). Each cell was
about two-thirds the weight of the
earlier type but total power from
the new batteries would be about
twice that of the Sargo. In 1947 it
was estimated that the Guy
would have 4520 SHP_ aval le
underwater at the highest
(half-hour) rate as compared to
2688 for an unconverted boat. At
the lower six hour rate the Guppy
installation would be about 50 per
‘cent more powerful than the Sargo
and at the low rate, for maximum
underwater endurance, about 40
per cent more powerful, This was a
reasonable allocation of priorities,
given the short ranges of
contemporary sonars and ASW
‘weapons. A submarine attacking a
convoy submerged might well be
detected only after she had fired
and a burst of speed at that point
might well enable her to escape
entirely.
‘The new batteries had
disadvantages. They were more
fragile than the Sargo type, their
expected peacetime life was only
eighteen months (as compared to
ive years for the earlier type) and
they required twice as much lead. It
followed that US lead resources and
battery manufacturing capacity
might well limit production of
Guppies. They also required
considerable internal
rearrangement. Of the 252 cells of
the forward batteries only 184 could
be placed in the former forward
battery compartment which had
held 126 Sargo cells. The others had
to be placed under the control room
in spaces formerly occupied by fresh
‘water tanks, magazines (for the
deck guns now dispensed with) and
an ordnance storeroom. The alter
battery space had to be extended
forward, and some bunks relocated,
and four reload torpedoes
sacrificed. An auxiliary engine was
also removed to provide space for
increased air conditioning capacity
to deal with the heat generated by
the new batteries.
Conspicuously absent from the
Guppy project was any advance i
sonar which might have made the
boats particularly effective
submarine killers. In 1946-7 the
Jong range pasive sonar developed
by the Germans was still a matter of
experimentation, under the
designation GHG; it would appear
in late Guppy conversions and in a
series of specialized hunter-killer
submarines designated SSK. Guppy
self was concentrated on high
underwater speed and, to a lesser
extent, underwater endurance at
high speed. Readers familiar with
the Type XXI design may recall that
the latter was far more directed
towards battery capacity and had an
entire lower pressure hull devoted
to batteries. So radical an approach
was impossible in a fleet boat
conversion, in which the basic form
and even most of the internal
arrangement of the pressure hull
was fixed by considerations of what
had now become an obsolete form
of submarine warfare in which
speed and endurance on the surface
was essential.
‘TYPE I GUPPIES
The Chief of Naval Operations
approved the Guppy proposal i
June 1946 assigning a high priority
to the conversions of Odax, at the:
Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, and
Pomodon, at Mare Island. It is
some indication of the urgency of
the conversions that snorkels were.
foregone, as none would be
available in time. In addition the
after periscope was omitted and an
air-search radar (SV) installed in its
place; at the time it was stated that
design changes necessary to provide
two periscopes would have delayed
completion. In fact in October
1946, even before the first two
‘Type I Guppies were completed,
ten more were authorized for which.
time was now available to design an
enlarged ‘sail incorporating a
second periscope and a snorkel.
‘These boats were designated Type
Mand a further twelve were
approved during 1947. The two
‘Type I prototypes were soon
brought up to Type IT standard,
Four of the Type Ils were Tench
class submarines which had been
suspended incomplete at the end of
World War Two.Picuda (5-382), a GUPPY IIA conversion
in her original configuration, shown here on
23 February 1954. The dark arcasare sloped
parts of her superstructure painted to make
them less visible from above,
USN
‘Trials with the first two boats
were extremely encouraging. Off
San Francisco, the Pomodon made
18.2 knots submerged (batteries at
the half-hour rate), as compared to
17.8 on the surface at full power.
Odax made slightly lower speeds
which were explained on the basis
of hull fouling and a different
propeller pitch. Even at high
submerged speeds no vibration was
noticed forward of the manuevering
room and for the rest of the boat
vibration was about the same as that
ina fleet boat at full power, ie at
about 9 knots. Even at maximum
underwater speed water noises
could not be heard within the hull
An unexpected by-product of the
streamlining adopted to achieve
high speed was that sonar detection
range on a Guppy was 10 per cent
Jess than sonar range on a fleet boat.
This effect was probably analogous
to the greater reflectivity by corners
of radar pulses. On the other hand
‘Type I was not quite Type XXI. It
was far noisier and could not dive as
deeply. Moreover, the maximum
battery rate for a Type XI had
been one hour rate and that had
been comparable to the half-hour
rate attainable by a Guppy.
‘TYPE 1A GUPPIES
As the Guppy program neared
completion in the Spring of 1949
the Navy began to evaluate
alternatives for future production.
The Center for Naval Analysis, the
‘Navys ‘think tank’, compared
snorkel installation, streamlining,
41
TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS
FLEET)
SNORKEL — GUPPY: «HLTA. A IIL
Surfaced 1827 1870 1830 1848 1975 tons
2400 2440 2440 2440 2450. tons
Length 312 307 307 307 3265 ft
Beam 21 7 om ok
Draft 7 7 7 7 Wott
Speed:
Surfaced 185 180 173 170 172 kis
Surfaced (cruise) 135 135 125 135 122 ks
Snorkel (engine) 6.5 90 75 80 62 kis
Max Submerged
(half hour) 100 160 150 141 145 kts
Submerged Cruise 3.0 35°30 30 37 ks
Engines 4 a eg sg
SI 4610 4610 4610 3430 4610
NOTE: Complement was 8 officers, 74 (78 in Guppy 11) enlisted men.
‘Submerged cruise rate was 36-hour rate; typically 2 submarine would follow a cycle of
snorkel and bi
tery operator
‘Of Guppy Ils, only Tire had three engines
the Guppy battery and a variety of
combinations. Significantly, the
criterion chosen was exchange rate
(merchant ships sunk per submarine
sunk) in a classical anti-shipping
campaign, not submarine vs
submarine ASW, as would later
become a primary preoccupation of
the US submarine force. At
periscope depth, over the speed
Fange of up to 10 knots, an
unmodified fleet boat would require
2.5 times the power required by a
treamlined boat such as Odax, 2.25
times the power required by a
Guppy II (streamlined with a
snorkel), Type IT paying a 10
Percent power penalty over Type I.
lowever, at a depth of 100 ft with
speeds of 0 to 15 knots both
streamlined types would match, At
the half-hour battery rate Type I
could make 18.5 knots underwater
(Type II 16.5) but a streamlined
Submarine with Sargo batteries
could make 15 (13.2 with snorkel).
In view ofthe high cost of the
Guppy battery it was a primary
question wheiher those 3 knois
were worthwhile, It was clear that
the snorkel was worthwhile as
aircraft contacts would decrease
radically and even the best ASW
radars would suffer a loss of 80 or
90 percent in range against a
snorkelling as opposed to a surfaced
submarine. On the other hand, the
increased running speed due to a
‘kel seemed less valuable.
experience was held to show
that only 20 percent of individual
‘merchant ship contaets and only 15
petcent of convoy contacts could
not be attacked due to the low
speed of the submarine.
In fact the study concluded that
funds should be used to combine
the snorkel with streamlining and
that the Guppy battery should be
foregone in future conversions. Itis
possible that the loss of a new
Guppy II, USS Cockino, off
Nonway after a battery fire on 26
August 1949 also influenced the
decision that there would be no
more Guppy II conversions Instead
there were two batches of
conversions using modified Sargo
batteries (Sargo I under the FY 51
and FY 52 programs). In addition
the FY 51 program included a series
of limited ‘fleet snorkel’ conversions
intended to secure some of the
essential features of the Guppy at
minimum cost.
‘Thus the program for Fiscal Year
1951 (the year beginning 1 July
1950) included ten Guppy 1A
conversions whose primary mission
was ‘to locate and to destroy enemy
ships, surface or submarine, with
torpedoes.” By this time ASW
training was relegated to last place
among secondary tasks, the others
being offensive minelaying,
reconnaissance and lifeguard duties
during air strikes. The
Characteristics, or staff
requirements, for the conversion
noted that ‘this conversion is
intended to increase the capabilities
of the obsolescent fleet type
submarine the maximum amount
fora minimum expenditure of42
funds, To this end, it is desired that
during the conversion period of this
ship, no replacements or additional
installation of equipments and
machinery be made, other than
those described below, unless prior
authorization be obtained from the
Chief of Naval Operations. This
conversion includes the installation
of snorkel and streamlining of the
superstructure. The installation of
snorkel is considered to be an
absolute requirement to permit
submarines to carry out their
mission in combat areas under
enemy air patrol. Streamlining the
superstructure provides substantial
increase in both submerged speed
and submerged endurance for a
reasonable cost and is therefore
very desirable. Present type of
storage battery will be retained.’ In
fact the 1A conversions received a
modified battery (Sargo II) rather
larger than that of fleet boats and
intermediate in lifetime between a
Sargo and a Guppy. One unusual
feature of the conversion was that
the conning tower was to be
designed to permit later installation
of along range conformal array
listening sonar, a relative of the type
then being fitted to the bows of
SSKs. Two further Guppy 1A
conversions were to be made for the
Royal Netherlands Navy, namely
Hawkbill and Icefish
“FLEET SNORKELS’
Even Guppy IA was not the least
expensive Way to rehabilitate a
Fleet boat. The FY 51 program also
included 19 “fleet snorkel’
conversions, three of which were
later cancelled. It was limited to
‘installation of the snorkel plus that
streamlining which is an economical
part of snorkel installation’ although
‘conversion features shall be
designed to facilitate future
conversion to Guppy Hor LA."In
practice that meant that a ‘fleet
snorkel’ conversion could be
distinguished from a true Guppy by
retention of a ship-type bow in
place of the Guppy rounded one.
Thus by snorkelling on one engine
the ‘fleet snorkel’ could maintain
only 6.5 knots to the [As 7.5 (or the
‘Type Tis 9 knots) and at the
maximum half-hour battery rate she
could make only 10 knots
rae (15 for aA, 16 fora
0).
‘The original ‘fleet snorkel”
characteristics called for a
‘minimum reduction of gun
‘armament as necessary fo meet
stability requirement,’ and at least
some of these submarines emerged
from their refits retaining a Sin/25
‘wet gun’ abaft their conning
towers. These were soon removed,
presumably in the interest of greater
underwater speed.
TYPE TIA GUPPIES
There remained one further series
of conversions, 16 more fleet boats
became Guppy ITAS under the FY
52 program. Like the IA, the ITA
employed the Sargo II battery but
was redesigned for improved sonar
performance, one main engine
being eliminated to allow relocation
of auxiliary machinery away from
the sonar transducers. There were
also habitability improvements
which included better air
conditioning. Sonar equipment
included a new passive sonar called
AN/BOR-2, generally in a chin
dome under the hull, there was also
an active sonar, such as BQS-2, and
a precision tracking passive sonar
the wartime JT or its replacement,
;QR-3). By 1954 this sonar suit
‘was standard in Guppies.
‘The Guppy IIA program
included two boats specifically
intended as ASW targets,
Thornback and Razorback. Both
were modified to allow for impact
firings of the new generation of
ASW homing torpedoes but the
modifications were such that it was
relatively easy to convert these
boats to the standard ITA.
configuration
‘One remaining feature of all of
the Guppy and ‘fleet snorkel’
submarines deserves mention: all
were fitted with a new underwater
fire control system, Mark 106,
which permiited them to fire a new
generation of electrically (as
opposed to mechanically) set
torpedoes and all ultimately
received the new generation
submarine fired ASW homing
torpedoes.
Guppies were not the only ‘fleet
boats’ modernized to extend their
useful lives. Seven boats received
more extensive SSK modifications,
including installation of powerful
BOR-4 passive sonar (at the
expense of two bow tubes); they
were otherwise similar to Guppy
TIA conversions. There were also
‘two boats converted to fire Regulus
‘guided missiles which were
otherwise comparable to ‘fleet
snorkels,’ and nine converted to
radar pickets. Other conversions
produced cargo carriers and even a
submarine oiler. However, the
specialist types died out as
experience with the converted fleet
boats during the 1950s apparently
showed that it was possible to build
an effective general purpose
submarine which would also be an
effective SSK. At least that became
US policy with nuclear submarines.
‘THE FRAM PROGRAM
By the late 1950s many of the US
warships built for World War II
were beginning to show their age. In
1958 an extensive Fleet
Rehabilitation and Modernization
(FRAM) program was instituted to
buy time until the mass of war
construetion could be replaced. It
included submarine refits, and
ultimately nine Guppy IIs were
rebuilt, lengthened 10ft, to allow for
a plotting room and a longer
conning tower, their hull and
machinery overhauled and their fire
control systems modified to allow
them to fire the new ASTOR, the
Mark 45 ASW torpedo with a
nuclear warhead. In a sense this
paralleled the destroyer
modernizations which allowed them
to fire ASROC, the new surface
ASW weapon contemporary wi
ASTOR. The main external mark
of the FRAM conversion, which
was designated Guppy III, was a
nuclear submarine style ‘sail? which
replaced the stepped type
characteristic of the earlier boats.
However, this new superstructure
was also applied to Guppies which
did not undergo FRAM and even to
some ‘fleet snorkels.”
‘Another major modification was
the BQG-4 fire control sonar
(PUFFS — Passive Underwater
Fire-control Feasibility Study),
housed in three domes projecting
above the hull. Together, they were
intended to permit the submarine totriangulate sources of noise and thus
to obtain both range and bearing
without itself emitting sonar ‘pings’.
More conventional passive sonars
could not find the range without
having the boats they were mounted
aboard carry out specialized and
precise maneuvers. PUFFS was also
mounted aboard several later US
diesel submarines, and on the
Guppy IA submarine Blenny.
The original FRAM program of
December 1958 called for the
modernization of 35 submarines to
FRAM Mark II standard, which
was expected to extend their useful
lives by five years one prototype
under the FY 59 program, then 4 in
FY 60, 8 in FY 61, and 11 each in
FY 62 and 63. This conversion was,
designated SCB 223 in the series of
new construction and conversion
projects of the Ship Characteristics
Board (Guppy IT had been SCB 47,
TA had been SCB 47A, the “fleet
snorkel’ SCB 47B, and IA SCB
47C). In 1958 a total of 48 Guppies s
were active and two had been lost,
Cochino and Stickleback, the latter
toa 1958 collision with a destroyer
escort. FRAM modernizations were
to apply to those units with the
Jongest remaining working lives and
probably would have included all 23
surviving Guppy Ts and some of the
15 surviving Guppy IIAs. However,
the Guppy III program was reduced
to 24 and ultimately to 9
submarines. One reason may have
been a growing skepticism as to the
value of such lnited refts in elderly
hulls with very limited sonar
capabilities against modern
submarines; new nuclear boats
equipped with very long range
sonars (and presumably able to dive
deeply enough to reach optimum
sonar conditions) and SUBROC
must have seemed a far more
economical proposi
Even so, the Guppies were
retained in service into the 1970s
and many now serve in foreign
navies alongside the surviving ‘fleet
snorkels’. During the 1960s US
yards converted a number of the
Surviving fleet boats, as well as
several which had already been
transferred abroad, to the late ‘fleet
jorkel’ configuration including the
new type of sail. US ‘fleet snorkels’
remained in service alongside the
Guppies as late as 1973 showing,
perhaps, the wisdom of the austere
conversion. This last is perhaps a
‘good way to conclude this brief
a
‘USS Tiru ($S-416) was a GUPPY Ill. The
domes along her upper deck are patt of the
PUFFS (BOG-4) passive ASW targeting
system, which was ako fited on some newer
Submarines, including Tullbee (SSN-597}.
Here she is shown on 10 June 1963. Note the
speckled periscope shalt, and also the absence
‘ofan alr seareh radar ~ for a modern
dar isa hindrance
itcan be
USN by courtesy of Norman Polmar.
account. In the late 1940s the
advance of wartime technology and
the magnitude of the potential
Soviet threat seemed so impressive
that all of the proposed solutions
involved wholesale reconstruction
of the existing ASW fleet, much of
it well under a decade old. It was
impossible for the Navy to secure
that kind of funding and in
retrospect one of the great surprises
of the 1950s was just how well the
Fleet could do with far more austere
measures, such as the ‘fleet snorkel’.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
Tam indebted to the personnel of
the US Naval Historical Center,
particularly Cal Cavalcante, for
their assistance in obtaining
‘material for this article.
Photographs were supplied by
Robert Carlisle of the US Still
Photography section.GUPPY CONVERSIONS
No Boat Cowersionyard and date ‘Transerredfate
curry
484 ODAX P 946-847 8.772, Brasil
486 POMODON M 1046-747 1. 870 Scrapped
urrvit
Siy"" CATFISH 848-549 1.771 Argentina
343, CLAMAGORE* Ph 1247— 748 27. 675 Turkey
Bit COBBLER™ BE 2as> 849 21173, Turkey
3s COCHIN 2
346 CORPORAL" E 347-248 211173 Turkey
347 CUBERA Ph 747~ 3.48 5.172 Venezuela
349 DIODON Mo 8Aa7~ 3s
350 DOGTISH Pho 847- Aas 28,.7.72 Brasil
331 GREENFISH* E Las sds 19.1273 Braal
352, HALFBEAK P 99-150 1771. Scrapped
aio THRU" 17.75. Turkey
425 TRUMPETHISH* 151073. Brea
426 TUSK 181073 Taiwan
478 CUTLASS Ph 148-249 12.473 Taiwan
48) SBALROPARD Ph 128-49 27, 373 Braal
485 SIRAGO Ph 1248-749 1, 672 Scrapped
487 REMORA* M ‘247-1147 29/1073 Grose
490 VOLADOR*
522 AMBERIACK Po 1246-148 174073 Brazil
323 GRAMPUS™ B = 10.49 13,572 Brasil
524 PICKEREL P ei
325. GRENADIER™ B = 251 15, 5.73 Venezuela
GUPPY IA
319 BECUNA B 1150-831 15. 873 Venemela
322. BLACKEIN M 130-531 15. 9°72 Sunk (arwet)
323, CAIMAN M a3t- 30, 673. Turkey
324 BLENNY M = st 15. 873. Sunk Carget)
aul Civo B 1050-731 1.771 Argentina
382 CHOPPER E 531 11071 Scrapped
306 HAWKBILL E 333 RNUbN
So? ICEFISH E 333 RNehN
403. ATULE. P : 15. 873. Pert
406. SEA POACHER ch = 15.873 Peru
407 SEAROBIN 5 1.10.70 Scrapped
417 TENCH 15.873 Sunk (arget)
Gury,
340 ENTEMEDOR E 252-1052 1, 873. Turkey
365 HARDHEAD BE 452-133 26. 772 Greese
368 JALLAO E =1233 36. 64 Spain
377 MENHADEN M — 8s2— 353 15. 873 Stink (target)
382 PICUDA P = 833 TaL74 Spain
385. BANG P 252-1032 XIL34 Spain
301 POMFRET M 432-133 1873. Turkey
304 RAZORBACK po 832. 4°33 301170 Turkey
396 RONOUIEL M 532-258, 1. 771 Spain
402 SEAFOX M = 1032-733 151270 ‘Turkey
410 THREADFIN Po 1133-833 1873 Turkey
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418 THORNBACK Ch "652-333 1873 Turkey
420. TIRANTE pl 3521252 11073. Sermpped
421 TRUTTA ch 3530 '133 172 Scrapped
434 QUILLBACK pi 3520 133 23, 373. Serapped
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AIRCRAFT ON TIGER from
Adrian Vicary, Cromer
Thave received today Issue 6 of
Warship and am paren
interested in the photographs on
page 89. The photograph captions
Incorrectly state the aeroplane’s
serial number as $6797; this should
be N6797. However more
important than thisis that itis
actually a Sopwith 2F1 Camel not a
Sopwith Pup. This is one of a batch
of 100 built by William Beardmore
& Co Ltd, of Dalmuir (Serials
N6750 - 6849). The date of the
photograph must therefore be
Sometime after March 1918 as the
first Beardmore built Camel flew in
February 1918 and deliveries to
Rosyth commenced in March,
Incidentally Culley’s Camel, in!
the Imperial War Museum, is also
from this batch of Beardmore
Camels (N6812). According to
Marine Aircrafi of the 1914-1918
War the turret ramp was built on
Tiger in February 1918, and
another Camel (N6603) was
carried.
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competion, the fist Pup exclang
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VIRIBUS UNITIS from Harry
Woodman, London
‘The feature on Viribus Unitis was of
great interest to me but I regret that
Herr Prasky had to damn all
previous atiempts to describe these
ships with his remark thai
“Articles have been published on
these ships but all of them contain
errors of fact”, As one of the writers
ofa previous article I find it a litle
off-putting. Apart from myself the
only other accounts that spring to
mind were written by an Austrian, a
Czech and a Dutchman. My own
feature which was published in
Battle magazine, in three parts, in
1976 was based almost entirely on
Austrian material and [had the
help and advice of Ing Rene Greger
‘of Prague and the Graf von
Aichelberg of Vienna. My drawing
was, as is Herr Prasky’s, a tracing of
the original drawing held by the
Austrian State Archive. As my.
work was to be reduced to 1:700
‘scale much small detail was omitted
but I did modify it to show the
vessel as she appeared in 1916/17
with some of the 7em guns removed
and anti-bomb baskets fitted to the
funnels. Apart from this, despite
Herr Prasky’s remarks, a good
drawing was available some time
ago in the US which was also traced
from the original Austrian material
My feature was entitled The
Tegetthoffs for the simple reason
that contemporary Austro-
Hungarian literature and material
(which I possess) refers to these
ships as Tegetthoff Klasse.
ally I think that your readers
may be alittle puzzled by the
statement at the top of page 106
that Szent Istvan was... ‘completed
in Poland’. It is of course a misprint
for Pola.
CRUISER RADAR from Alastair H
Mitchell, Sussex, UK
Iwas very interested in Norman
Friedman’s article on cruiser
electronics in Warship 6 as, having
spent seven years on radar
maintenance in the RN in the
1950s, I worked on some of the
later equipments mentioned.
Reading the article I got the
impression that Mr Friedman was
‘more at home with US Navy radars
than he was with the RN. There was
a fair degree of supposition as
regards some aspects of the
performance and operational use of
the British sets. To take a few
examples a. Page 81 ~
1. “The wide beams of the British
systems (Types 79, 281 etc)
presented a serious problem if their
warning were to be translated into
data suitable for gunnery or
probably even for fighter control.”
2. “The RN appeared to have had
difficulty in synchronising the
rotation of two aerials.”
In (1) it depends on what period
of the war we are talking about.
Initially the sets were classified as
purely early warning and were used
by the few ships fitted to give the
fleet warning of an impending air
attack. Tracking and ranging were
normally done visually by the AA.
directors. In 1945 the Types 79,
279 and 279M were listed as long
range early warning of aircraft and
ships and as AA gunnery rangin;
‘Types 281 and 281M were listed as
for long range warning and short
range ranging against aireraft, and
for range and bearing of surface
targets. In addition, of course,
facilities existed for ‘putting on’ the
centimetric radars Type 277, 275
te, to give accurate height and
ranging guidance; eg display units
Type JJ and 19.
Iwould therefore agree that the
radar could not give accurate
bearing information but then as the
range lessened so would the
distance of are until visual contact
‘was made. In any case beam-width
is measured between the half power
points so as you come close-in
problems with main lobe width and
sidelobes arise at the lower
frequences. I do not know how
effective the radars were in the
gunnery data role as by the time I
‘came on the scene it was all done by
the 10cm radars, the Type 960
metric set having reverted to purely
Jong range warning.
As to the rotation of the aerials
(2) this was done mechanically by
hand through 360° and back, The
only report I have seen of this stated
that one man rotated both aerials. I
have no information as to how this
was actually done but given that the
RN could get 15in turrets weighing
over 700 tons to follow a director
‘would not have thought the
problem was beyond them!
b. Page 82 ~in describing the roles
of Types 277 and 293 radars there
are Several mistakes, The Type 293
was a 10em radar (not 3em) with a
beam-width in the final Q version of
plus and minus 13° and a vertical
beam-width of plus and minus 30°
tilted at 15° to give air cover up to
45°. The broad elevation beam
meant it did not have to be
stabilised in any plane to give
effective surface cover out to the
horizon (12 - 25 miles depending on
the height of the aerial and target
size). It was primarily a surface
warning and target indicating set
and was only fitted to ships with a
runnery director. The very narrow
eam made it a doubtful
proposition as an air warning set
and whether you picked up anaircraft or not depended on its
and altitude.
‘The same radar was used in
conjunction with a dish aerial and
then became Type 277. This gave a
relatively narrow beam in both
horizontal and vertical planes, was
stabilised in one plane and was used
asa combined surface/air warning
set on all types of ships and as a
height-finder in conjunction with
‘Types 279M and 281BQ. The
official ranges quoted for Type
277M were 25-30 miles for surface
targets (including coastlines) and
50-100 miles for aircraft with
maximum elevation for
heightfinding of 40°. The ‘P’ version
had an improved receiver giving
15% range increase while the
elevation of the aerial was increased
to 75°. In the 1950s the normal
method of operation was to rotate
the Type 277 with the dish vertical
and when required stop it on the
approximate bearing indicated by
the Type 281/960 and ‘nod it’ up
and down to obtain the elevation,
Having complained for most of
this letter I would like to say that I
do think Mr Friedman is correct in
his general assessment of the
different tactical concepts applied in
the two navies with the emphasis on
gunnery in the RN and that I
enjoyed reading the article. Very
tile is ever written about the
development of shipborne radar.
FAULTS IN VIRIBUS UNITIS
CLASS
Friedrich Prasky the author of the
article on the Viribus Unitis class
published in Warship 6 has sent us
the following additional
information, Itis taken from an
official document listing the faults of
the class.
1, The ships were about 2500 tons
too small for their armament.
2. Inbattle condition the bow lay
20cm too deep in the water.
3. The freeboard at the forecastle
‘was too low; the ships were not
‘ocean going types. The ram bow
was obsolete.
4, Because of their low stability the
ships heeled over very much even
in turning at low speed. Turning at
full speed during a battle was
impossible otherwise the side
armour would have come out of the
water.
5. The ships were too slow. During
the raid of the Austro-Hungarian
Fleet against the Italian coast at the
beginning of the war Viribus Unitis
only reached 17.5 knots as,
maximum speed.
6. The openings in the armoured
deck were too large, especially
around the smokestacks where
large openings were arranged, so a
projectile as small as 7em could
penetrate the wall of the boiler
room. With the resultant loss of air
pressure in the fire rooms the speed
would have been further reduced.
The funnel uptakes were
unprotected and the ships carried
nets on the top of their funnels
against bombing ~a very pointless
construction.
7. The turrets also had some faults.
As you can see in my drawing there
‘was an unprotected slot between
barbette and gun house. The cupola
of the rangefinder on the turret roof
was too large. A hit on it would
have opened the thin turret
covering like a tin can, Under battle
conditions the gun houses could not
be ventilated and the oxygen in
them only lasted for 15 minutes.
Before firing the ventilation had to
be turned off, otherwise the
explosion gases would have been
sucked in. The 15cm barbettes had
no ventilation; when smoke got into
them they were out of action
In summary it can be said that the
ships of the Viribus Unitis class were
powerful looking and beautiful but
they were not suited for action. The
‘Austrian Naval Staff knew the faults
Of these ships as there exists a
document about these drawbacks
dated before the sinking of the Szent
Istvan,TRIBALC
FRIGATES
BY PETER HODGES
HMS Zulu in 1975, some eleven years
“after her launch. She was the last ship of
the class (ziving the Z of her name a hint of 5
finality) and was the only one having
Seacat ystems {rom building. Both the
Aion nkcbasers andthe bartelled
‘rocket launcher were later additions. The
blu bow at foreeastle deck level is clearly
TMS OspreyThe Type 81 General Purpose
Frigate emerged from a 1954 design
in which it was hoped to combine
the attributes of the specialised
Type 12 (A/S) Type 41 (A /A) and
Type 61 (A /D) frigates. These
three classes of six, four and four
ships respectively were completed
between 1956 and 1959 (together
with a dozen Type 14s, the latter
honestly described as ‘3rd rate’);
but the concept proved costly.
Economie strictures had already
dictated that only the Type 12s
‘would have the steam turbines
necessary for them adequately to
fulfil their function as AS vessels.
‘The remaining eight diesel
propelled AA and AD frigates were
embarassingly slow in company
with the Type 15 conversions ~ and
indeed with most of the existing
fleet including, of course, the
aircraft carriers.
‘The first three ships of the
“Tribal class were ordered under
the 1955-56 Estimates and soon
featured in contemporary
publications. The details therein
proved to be so inaccurate that one
isleft wondering whether they were
the pure conjecture of the
publishers or had been collusively
teleased from Whitehall with.
deliberate intent to deceive. Bither
way, surely only the most naive
could have believed that on a
displacement of 2800 tons with
20 000 shp and one shaft the class
had been designed for 30 knots.
The imagined armament was
equally erroneous and mysteriously
suffered a multiplication factor of
two. Thus, the class were to have
‘two twin 4,Sin DP, two twin 40mm
Bofors and two Limbos to say
nothing of eight 21in torpedo tubes.
Even now they are cryptically
described as having ‘Optical Seacat
Directors’.
ARMAMENT
‘The armament isin fact a strange
mixture of ancient and modern.
‘Two single 4.5in Mk 5 mountings,
which are fundamentally cleaned-up
4.7in Mk XXIIs of Second World
War vintage with electric power
added, are set in’ and Y positions.
Like their valiant forebears the50
present day shell and cordite
joading numbers must needs take
what comfort they can behind an
open-backed gunshield cradling a
‘S5lb projectile and 351b cartridge
case in their arms. No doubt the
‘single four five’ concept was
economically attractive (since there
were mountings a-plenty from
serapped 'C class destroyers) butt
seems hardly the armament for the
nuclear age. The layers’ and
trainers’ sighting ports have been
plated over to improve the
‘watertightness of the front face
shield and the hand ramming
arrangements removed from the
spring powered loading tray to
reduce maintenance effort; but the
mounting as a whole cannot be
‘Nubian at anchor with the hateh-covers
inpposition on the ight deck covering
the open ft wll. Note that the red
“danger circle around the 4.5in delines
the swept arcof the muzzles. The GWS
21 ditectors are uncovered and the
aerial dish ean be seen, centrally on the
drum shaped shield.
C&STAYLOR
claimed to be other than the
stop-gap it was acknowledged to be
when it was first designed in the
carly 1940s. ‘A’ mounting has triple
2in Rocket Flare Launcher (RFL)
rails on each side for illumination
purposes which allows the gun to be
supplied with HE rather than
starshell. The RFLs are less flexible
than conventional fused starshell
since their range is less and they are
ata fixed elevation. They date from
the Battle of the Atlantic and were
originally designed for one gun
escorts to enable them to illuminate
and engage surfaced U-boats
without the need to change
ammunition type from starshell t0
HE.
‘The 4.5in armament is controlled
by the first frigate-fit of the MRS3
system which before the advent of
the latest digital computers was the
standard gunfire control system in
the Royal Navy. MRS3, which is
analog-electronic, is ‘Chinese
copy’ of the USN Mk 63 system, and
the discerning will note a similarity
FIGURE 1. TYPE 81 (TRIBAL? CLASS)
FRIGATE
|. VDS gantry operator's compartment
VBS gantry
-d acoustic torpedo decoy winch
in main MkS mounting
- Hangar rooflight deck
5. Triple-barrelled A/S mortar Mk10
. Secondary control for Y mounting abaft
after funnel (by STD)
8. IF.
9. Type 965 long range surveillance radar
10. UHF
1, Navigation/helicopter landing contzol
radar
12, Medium range/weapon direction radar
13. MRS3 (Gunnery) director, with radar
Type 903
14, Visual gun direction positon
18. A4.5in Mk5 mounting
16. Attack and search sonars
17, Triple 2in rocket flare launcher, left and
right
20mm Oerlikon, port and starboard
19, B.barrelled 3in decoy rocket launcher, port
and starboard
‘Quadruple Seacat launcher, port and
starboard
Boat stowage space, port and starboard
2. GWS 21 director, port and starboard
23, Mortar bomb handling room
24, After capstan
20,
a