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No Retreat, No Surrender 2

Original title: No Retreat, No Surrender 2: Raging Thunder
  • 1987
  • R
  • 1h 32m
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5.1/10
2.4K
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Cynthia Rothrock, Loren Avedon, and Max Thayer in No Retreat, No Surrender 2 (1987)
In this sequel, Scott Wylde, an American kickboxer, must go to Cambodia to rescue his Vietnamese girlfriend from Russian and Vietnamese troops.
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American kickboxer Scott Wylde travels to Cambodia to rescue his Vietnamese girlfriend from Russian and Vietnamese forces.American kickboxer Scott Wylde travels to Cambodia to rescue his Vietnamese girlfriend from Russian and Vietnamese forces.American kickboxer Scott Wylde travels to Cambodia to rescue his Vietnamese girlfriend from Russian and Vietnamese forces.

  • Director
    • Corey Yuen
  • Writers
    • Maria Elena Cellino
    • Roy Horan
    • Keith W. Strandberg
  • Stars
    • Loren Avedon
    • Max Thayer
    • Cynthia Rothrock
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    5.1/10
    2.4K
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    • Director
      • Corey Yuen
    • Writers
      • Maria Elena Cellino
      • Roy Horan
      • Keith W. Strandberg
    • Stars
      • Loren Avedon
      • Max Thayer
      • Cynthia Rothrock
    • 28User reviews
    • 17Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Loren Avedon
    Loren Avedon
    • Scott Wylde
    Max Thayer
    • Mac Jarvis
    Cynthia Rothrock
    Cynthia Rothrock
    • Terry
    Patra Wanthivanond
    • Sulin Nguyen
    Matthias Hues
    Matthias Hues
    • Yuri
    Nirut Sirichanya
    Nirut Sirichanya
    • Colonel Tol Nol
    Jeong-lee Hwang
    • Ty
    • (as Jang Lee Hwang)
    Perm Hongsakul
    • Mr. Nguyen
    Chesda 'Pop' Smithsuth
    • Police Captain
    • (as Chesda Smithuth)
    Grisapong Hanviriyakitichai
    • Pimp
    Roy Horan
    • American Consular
    Bunchai Im-arunrak
    • Head Monk
    Opisok Praechaya
    • Gym Manager
    Sanchai Martves
    • Restaurant Manager
    Suang Sosretananant
    • Arm Wrestler
    Amuay Cespumkong
    • Thai Boxer
    Vinay Leapmorn
    • Thai Boxer
    Vichoi Vatchoiaracarn
    • Thai General
    • Director
      • Corey Yuen
    • Writers
      • Maria Elena Cellino
      • Roy Horan
      • Keith W. Strandberg
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    5tpr007

    Pseudo-sequel, but good action

    This was originally intended to be a direct sequel to the first 'NR, NS' which launched the career of a certain Jean Claude Van Damme. However Van Damme pulled out feeling the film would not have furthered his career while persuading co-star Kurt McKinney to do the same. As a result, the story was changed with Tae Kwon Do expert Loren Avedon and Matthias Hues drafted in to play the American and Russian stereotypes.

    The basic synopsis sees Avedon's character call in some friends in an attempt to rescue his Thai girlfriend, while strangely coming across a contingent of the Russian army (camped out in the Vietnamese jungle!) in the process, as well as a group of fake Shaolin monks. (Blame Keith W. Strandberg for the script!).

    Surprisingly, for an American film, there are some well executed and imaginative fight sequences predominantly showcasing the excellent kicking skills of Avedon. This is clearly the influence of Yuen Kwai who was not prepared to concede too much to the American filming and time constraints. The finale, while inferior to the first films final reel, features Cynthia Rothrock as a hard-hitting, tough talking helicopter pilot (not a cop/CIA/FBI agent for a change!) showing some of the moves which made her name on the Jade screen. This movie is one of the only 80's flicks that uses her real voice! Loren Avedon did not follow Jean Claude's example and stayed on after this film fulfilling his 3 picture contract, notably with the decent third instalment of the NR, NS series: 'Blood Brothers' with the excellent Keith Vitali (Yuen Biao's opponent in 'Wheels on Meals') and I am surprised he was never used in a 'real' Hong Kong picture as he is clearly skilled and quick enough to have made a good screen villain.
    8Captain_Couth

    Revenge of the 80's: The sequel.

    No Retreat, No Surrender 2: Raging Thunder (1989) was a sequel only in name to the first film. Corey Yuen is back, Seasonal Films decided to make another film to the series. This time the movie's featured star is Cynthia Rothrock. The action is also co-directed by Hoi Meng.

    The movie takes place in Southeast Asia. A couple of commandos along with a female agent are sent on a deep cover assignment. Their mission is to take out a suspected Soviet clandestine operation. Whilst in Thailand they discover that their mission has become a whole lot more complicated than they could have ever imagined.

    The acting is not that great but it's adequate. Who's kidding themselves. Who goes to a movie like this and expect a cast full of thespians. The action set pieces are what we expect from the team of Hoi Meng and Corey Yuen, bone breaking action with a fair amount of blood letting. Cynthia Rothtock is phenomenal in her role. More action and less gabbing from her.

    If you like no nonsense action films then this one's for you. Others need not apply because you'll be turned away from the nonsensical plot and pedestrian acting. But the action scenes are excellent and fun to watch.
    5Aaron1375

    Not seeing how this is a sequel...

    No Retreat, No Surrender was a film about a dude who was having trouble fitting in at his new home after his dad got injured by the mob. He learns kungfu from the ghost of Bruce Lee and tackles a Russian martial arts champ at a tournament. The only thing this one has in common with that is a Russian being the big bad at the end. Oh, this one has Max Thayer too; granted, I do not remember him in the first film. This one has Cynthia Rothrock so point to this film! Granted, she kind of feels like a last minute add in...

    So the story has a guy visiting an Asian country, at first seemingly to find an old chum (Thayer), but after running afoul of Cynthia he apparently has a fiance. She gets kidnapped so the guy finally finds his buddy and they make plans to rescue her. She has been kidnapped by a dude in a Russian camp. He is pretty tough, he obliterated Cynthia, but he kind of fought her unfair. Cynthia joins the heroes as a helicopter pilot and if she had a better fate I would have given this one a higher score.

    The cast is good, as I have never seen the lead but he was pretty good; however, both Rothrock and Thayer are the two more charismatic leads. The lead Russian bad guy is good too, probably most known for his role as the killer alien in the Dolph film, I Come In Peace.

    So it was enjoyable for what must of been a low budget action film. Plays more like a Rambo film during the ending scenes than anything found in the first film. Not sure why they tried to tie this one with that one, I guess they felt they needed a hook?
    wellthatswhatithinkanyway

    More enjoyable than the first,even though it's nothing like it

    STAR RATING:*****Unmissable****Very Good***Okay**You Could Go Out For A Meal Instead*Avoid At All Costs

    Corey Yeun,whose dayjob is a fight chereographer on the sets of various martial arts films,makes his second directing effort with this sequel to his 1985 original No Retreat No Surrender.Oddly,the plot to this sequel bears absolutely no resemblance to the original at all,with none of the original cast members returning either (including the ghost of Bruce Lee).That's no real problem,though,because a follow up to that ridiculously awful film probably wouldn't have been appreciated too greatly anyway.This is a film in an altogether different league,with a cast of martial artists in the leads.Loren Avedon is a little goofy in the lead but engaging enough,whilst Richard Norton alike Max Thayer adds good support.Cynthia Rothrock gets some nice lines here and there but she has serious problems with her delivery.And,finally,Matthias Hues is a video game villain ,right down to his 'hahaha' interludes,though quite credible.Running at as brisk a pace as the first,this is itself pretty damn stupid,but features some nice action and,if only seen once,passes muster.***
    7sveknu

    And the fun continues...

    Despite being a sequel, this has nothing to do with the first movie. There's a whole new cast, and a brand new plot. A quite good one, actually. No Retreat, No Surrender 2 is the perfect example of pure 80's fun. It has lots of really cool fighting, fun background music and almost everything else we all know as bad (but really entertaining) 80's action stuff. The last fifteen minutes of the movie are excellent. Movies with totally evil Soviet military bases are always fun! And Matthias Hues is perfect as an evil Soviet military. The last fight between him and Loren Avedon must be considered as a classic.

    Same score as the first movie: 7 out of 10!

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    • Trivia
      While shooting, according to Roy Horan, there were many conflicts between the U.S., Hong Kong and Thai crews. The explosives crew had access to handguns and they also had Thai Special Forces and Thai police involved in the film. The crew did not have access to movie-guns, so all the weapons were real live guns with live ammunition.
    • Goofs
      Black haired stuntman doing the somersault in the boxing ring for Loren Avedon.
    • Quotes

      Scott Wylde: Hey, man, drugs are a deadly trip, you know?

    • Alternate versions
      The following were cut out of the 1989 U.S. release.
      • The opening execution sequence.
      • Terry and Scott talking about Mac was cut down.
      • Scott and the pimp's conversation.
      • The phone conversation between Scott and Sulin was cut down as well as the pimp interrupting Scott was cut out.
      • Conversation between Scott, Mac, and Terry in the helicopter.
      • Colonel Tol Nol using Terry as "collateral" in the military deal is cut out.
    • Connections
      Featured in Top Fighter 2 (1996)
    • Soundtracks
      EVERYWHERE WITH YOU
      Music by David Spear

      Lyrics and vocals by Lisa Donovan Lukas (as Lisa Donovan)

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    • Release date
      • January 27, 1989 (United States)
    • Countries of origin
      • Hong Kong
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Karate Tiger 2
    • Filming locations
      • Bangkok, Thailand
    • Production company
      • Seasonal Film Corporation
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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $108,154
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $108,154
      • Jan 29, 1989
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 32m(92 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby Stereo
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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