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The Battle of Elderbush Gulch

  • 1913
  • Not Rated
  • 29m
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6.1/10
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The Battle of Elderbush Gulch (1913)
ActionShortWestern

The fact that an Indian tribe is eating puppies starts an action-packed battle in a Western town.The fact that an Indian tribe is eating puppies starts an action-packed battle in a Western town.The fact that an Indian tribe is eating puppies starts an action-packed battle in a Western town.

  • Director
    • D.W. Griffith
  • Writers
    • D.W. Griffith
    • Henry Albert Phillips
  • Stars
    • Mae Marsh
    • Leslie Loveridge
    • Alfred Paget
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.1/10
    969
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • D.W. Griffith
    • Writers
      • D.W. Griffith
      • Henry Albert Phillips
    • Stars
      • Mae Marsh
      • Leslie Loveridge
      • Alfred Paget
    • 20User reviews
    • 5Critic reviews
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    Mae Marsh
    Mae Marsh
    • Sally Cameron - the First Waif
    Leslie Loveridge
    • The Second Waif
    Alfred Paget
    Alfred Paget
    • The Waifs' Uncle
    Robert Harron
    Robert Harron
    • The Young Father
    Lillian Gish
    Lillian Gish
    • Melissa Harlow
    Charles Hill Mailes
    Charles Hill Mailes
    • The Ranch Owner
    William A. Carroll
    William A. Carroll
    • The Mexican
    Frank Opperman
    • The Indian Chief
    Henry B. Walthall
    Henry B. Walthall
    • The Indian Chief's Son
    Joseph McDermott
    • The Waifs' Guardian
    Jennie Lee
    Jennie Lee
    • The Waifs' Guardian
    Kate Bruce
    Kate Bruce
    • Settler
    • (uncredited)
    Charles Gorman
    • Among the Indians
    • (uncredited)
    Elmo Lincoln
    Elmo Lincoln
    • Cavalryman
    • (uncredited)
    Betty Marsh
    • Child
    • (uncredited)
    W. Chrystie Miller
    W. Chrystie Miller
    • Settler
    • (uncredited)
    W.C. Robinson
    • Among the Indians
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • D.W. Griffith
    • Writers
      • D.W. Griffith
      • Henry Albert Phillips
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    7wes-connors

    Griffith Moves Closer to Birth

    Epic early film, directed by D.W. Griffith. Mae Marsh, her little sister, and their dogs are orphaned - they must go to live with an uncle. Aboard their coach is young couple Lillian Gish and Robert Harron, celebrating the birth of their first child. The coach arrives in Elderbush Gluch. Marsh's uncle tells her she can't keep the dogs, and they are put out. There are Indians (Native Americans) nearby; and, Indians love to eat dog meat (no kidding?). These Indians are hungry! Lionel Barrymore is sympathetic to Ms. Marsh, desiring to help her recover the runaway dogs. While rescuing the puppies, an Indian is shot - resulting in a "Cowboys vs. Indians" confrontation.

    This "Saga of the American West" is certainly an important film; however, the reliable Griffith performers begin to overplay their hands, and the story is too contrived. Many of the Griffith elements are in place - some good, and a few bad. "The Battle at Elderbush Gluch" foreshadows the later epic, "Birth of a Nation".

    ******* The Battle at Elderbush Gulch (3/28/14) D.W. Griffith ~ Mae Marsh, Robert Harron, Lillian Gish
    7planktonrules

    This longer D. W. Griffith short is well worth seeing--it's got a star-studded cast and LOTS of action!

    While I score the movie a 7, I also should point out that it is both interesting historically (as it stars Mae Marsh, Lillian Gish and Lionel Barrymore when they were all younger and less well-known) and features pretty exciting action for its day.

    The plot is odd for a Western, in that all the trouble with the Indians begins for the weirdest reason I have ever seen! The Indians decide to have a giant dog banquet (no, they are not feeding dogs, but feeding ON dogs) and when two Indians arrive late, there are not pooches left! So, they steal two dogs belonging to two orphans from the nearby White settlement and this actually touches off an all-out war!!!! Not only is this silly, but seems to play on the prejudices of audiences. I don't know if American Indians actually ate dog, but it sounds like the sort of stereotype that later was applied to other ethnic groups. All this over dogs! The movie has some excellent battle scenes and exciting moments--such as when Ms. Marsh crawls across the battlefield to save a baby! Exciting stuff! But, STRANGE, too!
    Snow Leopard

    An Impressive Achievement For Its Time

    Given the limited cinematic methods available in 1913, this is an impressive achievement, and it still makes for pretty good viewing today. It's also interesting in that its perspective is largely morally-neutral (except perhaps from what today's viewers might read into it), so that the excitement comes mostly from the danger of the situation, rather than from one side being entirely right and the other being entirely wrong.

    The build-up to the battle is done rather well, enabling you to identify with the characters, while making some points of its own. Neither side in the confrontation is really in the right, yet Griffith's technique arouses your keen interest in the events to come.

    But it is the filming of the actual "Battle at Elderbush Gulch" that is so noteworthy. To create such a sensation of action, turmoil, and emotion using the limited camera field of the times is remarkable. There are a lot of carefully chosen and composed shots, and Griffith also adds in some techniques that were new or relatively new at the time. There are several well-chosen 'iris' shots, and a variety of close-in and distant camera fields that pull you in and out of the action as the director wishes.

    It's a fine achievement for its time, at the very least in technical terms, and would probably be well worth a look today for those with an interest in silent movies.
    Cineanalyst

    Griffith: Nearly Born

    No other film before "The Birth of a Nation" better shows the potential D.W. Griffith could direct something of such scope than does "The Battle at Elderbush Gulch". His direction of the battle scenes here are the best precursor to those in "The Birth of a Nation", even so much as for this website to say that the later film references this one. Griffith's last picture for Biograph, "Judith of Bethulia", had battle scenes, too, but nothing was added to the grammar. It was a larger battle than the one in this film, yet Griffith didn't have the budget or time to make it grand. He was going over-budget and making a feature-length film without permission from studio-heads.

    The battle scenes in this film are on a smaller scale. Within that battle, there's focus on small skirmishes via extensive crosscutting. It's brutal--an infant is tossed around at one point, which I hope was a trick-shot of some sort. There's lots of smoke. There are multiple plot lines throughout, which are interlinked fluently in the climax.

    All of this creates an omniscient, unrestricted narrative. The bird's eye views of the fighting are a style still used today, although the irises aren't. Griffith and Billy Bitzer further display their mastering of camera distance with frequent use of medium shots. They hadn't figured out how to do an onrush shot yet, though, as the camera position of the cavalry is boring; they'd correct that in "The Birth of a Nation". There's the missing wall in interior shots; they'd never correct that.

    As fellow posters have condemned, this film is a precursor of "The Birth of a Nation" in another way: racism. Although I suppose it is racism either way, I doubt that Griffith intended to portray Native Americans ridiculously (he clearly stated that he considered Blacks to be childlike, although he didn't agree that was racist), but rather it was the result of his lack of understanding any particular tribal culture or fully understanding film representation. Bad acting didn't help, either. Only Lillian Gish and Mae Marsh really knew what they're doing. Anyhow, Griffith's earlier short film, "The Redman's View" was an attempt to be respectful of the Native-American population, even though it's a boring movie.

    (Note: This is one of three short films by D.W. Griffith that I've commented on, with some arrangement in mind. The other films are "A Corner in Wheat" and "The Girl and Her Trust".)
    7framptonhollis

    Thrilling Early Western!

    10 years after what is, arguably, the first western of all time, "The Great Train Robbery", D.W. Griffith (who is, perhaps, the most important filmmaker of all time) put his own spin on the western genre with his 30 minute masterpiece "The Battle at Elderbush Gulch".

    Bullets going off! Horses running around! Cowboys and Indians in a fierce battle! This action packed western has almost everything you'd want out of an action packed western, and it is all presented in an only 30 minute runtime!

    However, the plot, itself is really flawed, mainly because of how weird it is. It portrays Native Americans in a horribly stereotypical and downright offensive light (like how the African Americans are portrayed in Griffith's controversial epic "The Birth of a Nation"). They literally feast upon dogs, which triggers the whole battle. It is really weird and, overall, possibly the worst movie plot I've ever seen be paired with such an exciting and great movie!

    While it is a bit racist, it is still engaging, entertaining, and historically important! Possibly Griffith's best short film.

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    • Trivia
      The film was released in Germany four and a half months before its official premiere in the US.
    • Alternate versions
      In the 1920s, the Aywon Film Corporation distributed a 37 minute version; the added length is due to the editing and new titling by M.G. Cohn and J.F. Natteford. This version includes extended opening credits and added intertitles in the style of 1920s titling.
    • Connections
      Featured in Langlois (1970)

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    • Release date
      • December 1913 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • None
      • English
    • Also known as
      • La batalla de Elderbush Gulch
    • Filming locations
      • Biograph/Griffith Movie Ranch, San Fernando, California, USA
    • Production company
      • Biograph Company
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    • Runtime
      • 29m
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Sound mix
      • Silent
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.33 : 1

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